scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal): Sep 29 01:33PM
>of first taking out the contents of the same >TCP/IP packet and putting them into a byte >vector ? namespace net { /** * Layer 2 (Ethernet) Header */ struct s_ethernet { uint8_t e_dest_mac[6]; uint8_t e_source_mac[6]; uint16_t e_ethertype; uint16_t get_ethertype(void) { return be16toh(e_ethertype); } } PACKED; /** * Layer 2 (Ethernet) Header with 802.1Q VLAN tag. */ struct s_802_1q_ethernet { uint8_t e_dest_mac[6]; uint8_t e_source_mac[6]; uint32_t e_802_1q_tag; uint16_t e_ethertype; uint16_t get_ethertype(void) { return be16toh(e_ethertype); } } PACKED; /** * Layer 3 IPv4 Header */ struct s_ipv4 { #if __BYTE_ORDER == __BIG_ENDIAN uint8_t i_version:4, i_ihl:4; #else uint8_t i_ihl:4, i_version:4;
這樣看来我们並不老!
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導讀德裔美籍人塞繆爾。厄爾曼70多年前寫的一篇只有四百多字的短文。 首次在美國發表的时候,引起全美國轟動效應,成千上万的讀者把它抄下來當作座右铭收藏, 許多中老年人把它作為安排後半生的精神支柱。美國的麥克阿瑟將軍在指揮整個太平洋戰爭期間, 辦公桌上始终擺着裝有短文《年轻》複印件的镜框,文中的許多的詞句常被他在談話或開會作報告時引用。 後來此文傳到日本,文章的觀點成為許多日本人生活哲學的基礎。 松下公司的創始人松下幸之助說:"多年來,《年輕》始终是我的座右銘。" 文章如下:年輕,並非人生旅程的一段時光,也並非粉頰紅唇和體魄的矯健。 它是心靈中的一種狀態,是頭腦中的一個意念,是理性思维中的創造潛力,是情感活動的一股勃勃的朝氣,是人生春色深處的一縷東風。 年輕,意味着甘願放棄温馨浪漫的愛情去闖蕩生活,意味着超越羞涩、怯懦和欲望的膽識與氣質。而60歲的男人可能比20歲的小伙子更多 地擁有這種膽識與氣質。没有人僅僅因為時光的流逝而變得衰老,只是随着理想的毁滅,人類才出現了老人。 歲月可以在皮膚上留下皺纹,却無法為靈魂刻上一絲痕迹。懮慮、恐懼、缺乏自信才使人佝偻于時間塵埃之中。 無論是60歲還是16歲,每個人都會被未來所吸引,都會對人生競爭中的歡樂懷着孩子般無窮無盡的渴望。 在你我心靈的深處,同樣有一個無線電台,只要它不停地從人群中,從無限的時間中接受美好、希望、歡欣、勇氣和力量的信息,你我就永遠年輕。 一旦這無線電台坍塌,你的心便會被玩世不恭和悲觀失望的寒冷酷雪所覆盖,你便衰老了——即使你只有20歲。但如果這無線電台始终矗立在你心中, 捕捉着每個樂觀向上的電波,你便有希望超過年輕的90歲。所以只要勇於有夢,敢於追夢,勤於圓夢,我們就永遠年輕!千萬不要動不動就說自己老了, Vegan同義於「愛」與「尊重生命」 尊重生命,生命才會備受祝福。 Vegan透露著神聖的愛的意識,是一種愛的行動哲學, 更是一種慈悲高雅的生活態度,不僅實踐低碳的環保生活方式, 並且正在開創一種宏觀、先進、時尚、無暴力的新時代文明! 未在此訊息中找到病毒。 已透過 AVG 檢查 - www.avg.com 版本: 2015.0.6140 / 病毒庫: 4419/10713 - 發佈日期: 09/27/15
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導讀德裔美籍人塞繆爾。厄爾曼70多年前寫的一篇只有四百多字的短文。 首次在美國發表的时候,引起全美國轟動效應,成千上万的讀者把它抄下來當作座右铭收藏, 許多中老年人把它作為安排後半生的精神支柱。美國的麥克阿瑟將軍在指揮整個太平洋戰爭期間, 辦公桌上始终擺着裝有短文《年轻》複印件的镜框,文中的許多的詞句常被他在談話或開會作報告時引用。 後來此文傳到日本,文章的觀點成為許多日本人生活哲學的基礎。 松下公司的創始人松下幸之助說:"多年來,《年輕》始终是我的座右銘。" 文章如下:年輕,並非人生旅程的一段時光,也並非粉頰紅唇和體魄的矯健。 它是心靈中的一種狀態,是頭腦中的一個意念,是理性思维中的創造潛力,是情感活動的一股勃勃的朝氣,是人生春色深處的一縷東風。 年輕,意味着甘願放棄温馨浪漫的愛情去闖蕩生活,意味着超越羞涩、怯懦和欲望的膽識與氣質。而60歲的男人可能比20歲的小伙子更多 地擁有這種膽識與氣質。没有人僅僅因為時光的流逝而變得衰老,只是随着理想的毁滅,人類才出現了老人。 歲月可以在皮膚上留下皺纹,却無法為靈魂刻上一絲痕迹。懮慮、恐懼、缺乏自信才使人佝偻于時間塵埃之中。 無論是60歲還是16歲,每個人都會被未來所吸引,都會對人生競爭中的歡樂懷着孩子般無窮無盡的渴望。 在你我心靈的深處,同樣有一個無線電台,只要它不停地從人群中,從無限的時間中接受美好、希望、歡欣、勇氣和力量的信息,你我就永遠年輕。 一旦這無線電台坍塌,你的心便會被玩世不恭和悲觀失望的寒冷酷雪所覆盖,你便衰老了——即使你只有20歲。但如果這無線電台始终矗立在你心中, 捕捉着每個樂觀向上的電波,你便有希望超過年輕的90歲。所以只要勇於有夢,敢於追夢,勤於圓夢,我們就永遠年輕!千萬不要動不動就說自己老了, Vegan同義於「愛」與「尊重生命」 尊重生命,生命才會備受祝福。 Vegan透露著神聖的愛的意識,是一種愛的行動哲學, 更是一種慈悲高雅的生活態度,不僅實踐低碳的環保生活方式, 並且正在開創一種宏觀、先進、時尚、無暴力的新時代文明! 未在此訊息中找到病毒。 已透過 AVG 檢查 - www.avg.com 版本: 2015.0.6140 / 病毒庫: 4419/10713 - 發佈日期: 09/27/15
red floyd <no.spam.here@its.invalid>: Sep 27 10:05PM -0700
On 9/26/2015 11:50 AM, Rosario19 wrote: >> Why are you still using <iostream.h> instead of <iostream> >> 17 years after standardization? > i like the past time Irrelevant. Since <iostream.h> is not standard, it can do whatever the hell it wants, and nobody can tell you what it is supposed to do. | Rosario19 <Ros@invalid.invalid>: Sep 26 08:48PM +0200
On Sat, 26 Sep 2015 10:49:59 -0700, Barry Schwarz wrote: >Since you second code sample has almost no relation to your first, are >we still discussing your incorrect assertion that the order of calling >the precision and width functions causes different output? no it is not in discussion, i remembered it wrong etc what could be in discussion coul be: if i need to show the number + 2 digit afther the point... in C i have printf("%.2f", (double)123.123); -> "123.12" what in C++? | Juha Nieminen <nospam@thanks.invalid>: Sep 28 08:51AM
> The C++ Standard Library also incorporates 18 headers of the ISO C90 C standard library ending with ".h", but their use is deprecated. > [...] > I must have been living under a rock: I did not know this was being deprecated. Any reference on this ? and why ? I think that it's referring to standard include files inherited from C using the .h suffix, which is deprecated. The non-deprecated versions omit the .h (and add a 'c' at the beginning of the header file name, such as <cstdio>.) --- news://freenews.netfront.net/ - complaints: news@netfront.net --- | "Alf P. Steinbach" <alf.p.steinbach+usenet@gmail.com>: Sep 28 02:04AM +0200
On 9/27/2015 12:40 PM, Udo Steinbach wrote: > After reading http://www.boost.org/community/exception_safety.html and > experimenting with throwing at every point that can throw ... > How do you test your code for exception safety? You can use memory leak detectors to detect memory leaks. That's one aspect. You can generate hashes of object state to detect changed object state. That's another aspect. These comments are just common sense. I'm not aware of special techniques for generating exceptions within operations used by the code. It could be very costly to create mockups of lower level operations. > Is there any module for doing that in the world? Don't know, sorry. Cheers & hth., - Alf | Ian Collins <ian-news@hotmail.com>: Sep 28 01:12PM +1300
Udo Steinbach wrote: > and experimenting with throwing at every point that can throw ... How > do you test your code for exception safety? Is there any module for > doing that in the world? As part of my unit tests, I mock everything the code under test calls. It is straightforward to get the mock functions to throw exceptions. -- Ian Collins |
Udo Steinbach <trashcan@udoline.de>: Sep 27 12:40PM +0200
After reading http://www.boost.org/community/exception_safety.html and experimenting with throwing at every point that can throw ... How do you test your code for exception safety? Is there any module for doing that in the world? -- Fahrradverkehr in Deutschland: http://radwege.udoline.de/ GPG: A245 F153 0636 6E34 E2F3 E1EB 817A B14D 3E7E 482E | "Lőrinczy Zsigmond" <nospam@for.me>: Sep 27 06:59AM +0200
Off: never use these in multi-threaded context, because you cannot be sure when thread-switch occures. | Rosario19 <Ros@invalid.invalid>: Sep 27 07:10AM +0200
On Sun, 27 Sep 2015 06:59:35 +0200, L?rinczy Zsigmond wrote: >Off: never use these in multi-threaded context, >because you cannot be sure when thread-switch occures. yes... but one can use something for make the print operation as one atomic one something atomic(&output); operations output .... atomicEnd(&output); but pheraps one has to know if input/output can make possible some dead lock... i don't know too much this argument etc |
Rosario19 <Ros@invalid.invalid>: Sep 26 09:13AM +0200
there is difference in cout output from : cout.width(10); cout.precision(2); cout<<123.123; and cout.precision(2); cout.width(10); cout<<123.123; ? | Barry Schwarz <schwarzb@dqel.com>: Sep 26 01:23AM -0700
On Sat, 26 Sep 2015 09:13:28 +0200, Rosario19 <Ros@invalid.invalid> wrote: >cout.width(10); >cout<<123.123; >? Not on my system. Maybe you should provide the complete function, and the output your system produces. -- Remove del for email | Rosario19 <Ros@invalid.invalid>: Sep 26 05:44PM +0200
On Sat, 26 Sep 2015 01:23:31 -0700, Barry Schwarz wrote: >>? >Not on my system. Maybe you should provide the complete function, and >the output your system produces. here i not find they write different output... so all ok... ok too this output even if for me "precision number" is number of the digit afther the point "." in the right and not the number of all digits as the C++ seems to say #include <iostream.h> int main(void) {double b=23.123; cout<<"1: "<<b<<"\n"; cout.precision(2); cout.width(10); cout<<b<<"\n"; cout.width(10); cout.precision(2); cout<<b<<"\n"; cout.precision(2); cout<<b<<"\n"; return 0; } /* the output: 1: 23.123 23 23 23 */ | red floyd <no.spam.here@its.invalid>: Sep 26 09:44AM -0700
On 9/26/2015 8:44 AM, Rosario19 wrote: > point "." in the right > and not the number of all digits as the C++ seems to say > #include <iostream.h> [redacted] Since <iostream.h> is not a standard header, nobody here can tell you what the expected behavior is. Why are you still using <iostream.h> instead of <iostream> 17 years after standardization? | Barry Schwarz <schwarzb@dqel.com>: Sep 26 10:49AM -0700
On Sat, 26 Sep 2015 17:44:32 +0200, Rosario19 <Ros@invalid.invalid> wrote: >even if for me "precision number" is number of the digit afther the >point "." in the right >and not the number of all digits as the C++ seems to say You can choose any meaning you like when you use "precision number" in your prose. However, if you want people to understand your writing, it would be nice if you chose the already accepted meaning of words. In mathematics, precision is closely related to significant digits which does not distinguish between digits before and after the decimal point. When you use the precision member function in your C++ code, your chosen meaning is irrelevant. The result of calling the function is defined by the standard, not by the whims of the programmer. Since you second code sample has almost no relation to your first, are we still discussing your incorrect assertion that the order of calling the precision and width functions causes different output? -- Remove del for email | Rosario19 <Ros@invalid.invalid>: Sep 26 08:48PM +0200
On Sat, 26 Sep 2015 10:49:59 -0700, Barry Schwarz wrote: >Since you second code sample has almost no relation to your first, are >we still discussing your incorrect assertion that the order of calling >the precision and width functions causes different output? no it is not in discussion, i remembered it wrong etc what could be in discussion coul be: if i need to show the number + 2 digit afther the point... in C i have printf("%.2f", (double)123.123); -> "123.12" what in C++? | Rosario19 <Ros@invalid.invalid>: Sep 26 08:50PM +0200
On Sat, 26 Sep 2015 09:44:28 -0700, red floyd wrote: >you what the expected behavior is. >Why are you still using <iostream.h> instead of <iostream> >17 years after standardization? i like the past time | Jorgen Grahn <grahn+nntp@snipabacken.se>: Sep 26 06:15AM
On Fri, 2015-09-25, Paavo Helde wrote: > The general idea is that a single class should have a single > "responsibility". Managing the null-or-not-null data pointer seems a > pretty clear responsibility. Another common example of a class with not a lot of data in it is when you find a need for a type, and discover that its internal state can be represented as (for example) just an integer. Same internal state as an int ... but a very different (and much smaller) set of operations. One of the best habits I picked up over the years is to /resist/ the temptation to "just use an int" or a typedef, and to write that tiny class. My code becomes a lot clearer and safer. /Jorgen -- // Jorgen Grahn <grahn@ Oo o. . . \X/ snipabacken.se> O o . | "Chris M. Thomasson" <nospam@nospam.nospam>: Sep 21 02:29PM -0700
Here is some example code using the default random number generator (std::rand()). I do not have time to explain it, but it can create small differences between the average minimum and maximum values of a frequency distribution: http://codepad.org/ZZhBc65N __________________________________________________________ #include <iostream> #include <algorithm> #include <vector> #include <climits> #include <cassert> #include <cstdlib> #include <cstring> #define AN (UCHAR_MAX + 1U) // crappy little rand... unsigned int random_byte() { double rn = std::rand() / ((double)RAND_MAX); return (unsigned int)((rn) * (AN - 1U)); } // stores byte counts... struct counts { unsigned int m_count[AN]; unsigned int m_total; #define COUNTS_SINIT() { { 0 }, 0 } void inc(unsigned int n) { assert(n < AN); m_count[n] = m_count[n] + 1; m_total = m_total + 1; } bool inc_if(unsigned int n, unsigned int nmax, unsigned int tmax) { assert(n < AN); if (m_count[n] >= nmax || m_total >= tmax) return false; inc(n); return true; } void display() const { std::cout << m_total << " bytes...\r\n\r\n"; unsigned int total = 0; double avg_total = 0.0; double avg_min = 999999999999999.0; double avg_max = 0.0; for (unsigned int i = 0; i < AN; ++i) { if (m_count[i]) { double bavg = m_count[i] / (double)m_total; avg_min = std::min(avg_min, bavg); avg_max = std::max(avg_max, bavg); avg_total = avg_total + bavg; total = total + m_count[i]; std::cout << "[" << i << "] = " << m_count[i] << ", " << bavg << "\r\n"; } } double avg_diff = avg_max - avg_min; assert(avg_diff >= 0.0); std::cout << "total = " << total << "\r\n"; std::cout << "avg_min = " << avg_min << "\r\n"; std::cout << "avg_max = " << avg_max << "\r\n"; std::cout << "avg_diff = " << avg_diff << "\r\n"; std::cout << "avg_total = " << avg_total << "\r\n"; } }; // crude attempt to get a "flat" frequency distribution... struct flat_freq { counts m_counts; #define FLAT_FREQ_SINIT() { COUNTS_SINIT() } void prv_process(unsigned int n, unsigned int nmax, unsigned int tmax) { for (unsigned int i = 0; i < n; ++i) { // Color Monitor unsigned int rn = (random_byte() * ((i + 1) * 13)) % AN; if (! m_counts.inc_if(rn, nmax, tmax)) { //std::cout << "inc_if failed = \t" << rn << " \r"; } } } unsigned int process(unsigned int n, unsigned int iter = 150) { unsigned int i = 0; unsigned int ndiv = n / AN; //unsigned int nmax = (ndiv) ? (ndiv + 1U) : (ndiv + 1U); unsigned int nmax = (ndiv + 0U); double nmax_real = 0.0; //unsigned int nrem = ndiv * AN; //unsigned int nmax = (nrem) ? (ndiv + 1U) : (nrem); unsigned int iters_total = 0; while (m_counts.m_total < n) { iters_total = iters_total + 1; double tir = m_counts.m_total / (n - 0.0); //nmax_real = nmax_real + 1.681; // large nmax_real = nmax_real + 0.281; // small for (i = 0; m_counts.m_total < n && i < 128; ++i) { unsigned int ptotal = m_counts.m_total; prv_process(iter, (unsigned int)nmax_real, n); if (ptotal == m_counts.m_total) { std::cout << "infinite loop detected at:" << ptotal << "! \r"; break; } } } std::cout << "\r\n\r\n"; std::cout << "iters_total = " << iters_total << "\r\n"; return i; } void display() const { m_counts.display(); } }; int main() { { std::srand(123); flat_freq ffreq = FLAT_FREQ_SINIT(); unsigned int i = ffreq.process(10003); std::cout << "i = " << i << "\r\n\r\n"; ffreq.display(); } std::cout << "\r\n_________________\r\nComplete!\r\n\r\n"; std::cin.get(); return 0; } ___________________________________________________________ I will explain this further very soon. It has to do with encryption. | Rosario19 <Ros@invalid.invalid>: Sep 22 12:19AM +0200
On Mon, 21 Sep 2015 19:18:11 +0200, Rosario19 wrote: i think that the win move is put all possible code not dipend <T> type of the template in the dll library file and put all other in the .h file the problem i had possible is one expansion of a macro as #define ooo cout .... #define cout thatandthis[0] etc | Ian Collins <ian-news@hotmail.com>: Sep 22 10:42AM +1200
Rosario19 wrote: > ..... > #define cout thatandthis[0] > etc That's an easy fix: don't use pointless macros... -- Ian Collins | Rosario19 <Ros@invalid.invalid>: Sep 21 11:43AM +0200
On Sun, 20 Sep 2015 02:43:15 -0500, Paavo Helde wrote: >See also https://isocpp.org/wiki/faq/templates#templates-defn-vs-decl >hth >Paavo thank you but it is possible put only dichiarations [member, functions, operators etc] of the template class in the header file, and put all the code of that member functions, operators etc of the template class in the .dll file [in a way it is possible use that template class from some other .cpp file]? | Rosario19 <Ros@invalid.invalid>: Sep 21 12:11PM +0200
On Mon, 21 Sep 2015 11:43:18 +0200, Rosario19 wrote: >the code of that member functions, operators etc of the template class >in the .dll file [in a way it is possible use that template class from >some other .cpp file]? it seems to me that this compile for the creation of the .dll but when i want to use the compiler on other .cpp file that call one instance of that template class... the compiler says "unrisolved external" even if i put __extern in the code of that template in the .dll so i would use only the .h file for template.... but doing so there could be problem in call functions expecially input/ output where their definitions, in the few i understand, are in one other file header afther, in include, the header where there is the template class | jt@toerring.de (Jens Thoms Toerring): Sep 21 06:05PM
> >Louis > i think is not possible put code of the class template in the ndll.cpp > file right? Yes. The compiler must be able to see the templated code for function to be able to create the "real" code, i.e. with the occurences of the template parameters replaces by the concrete type! So if you declare something templated in a header file to be used from a number of cpp file also the definitions must be in the header file. Here's a trivial example: foo.h: ============= #include <iostream> template< typename T > T foo( T const arg1, T const & arg2 ); ============= file1.cpp ============= #inclue "foo.h" extern void bar( ); template< typename T > T foo( T const & arg1, T const & arg2 ) { return arg1 + arg2; } int main( ) { std::cout foo( 1.2, -3.9 ) << std::endl; bar( ); } ============= file2.cpp ============= #include <string> #inclue "foo.h" void bar( ) { std::cout << foo( std::string( "hello " ), std::string( "world" ) << std::endl; } ============= If the compiler sees file1.cpp it can geneterate a foo() function that accepts two doubles, but there's no reason for it to also create one that accepts two std::strings (or whatever types that templated function may ever be used with - there's no way it could know that!). And when file2.cpp is compiled the compiler doesn't know how to create the required foo() function that accepts two std::strings since that's only defined in file1.cpp. So, unless the templated stuff is restricted to a single source (cpp) file, the definitions also must be in the header file to tell the compiler how to generate the required code with con- crete types. Regards, Jens -- \ Jens Thoms Toerring ___ jt@toerring.de \__________________________ http://toerring.de | mark <mark@invalid.invalid>: Sep 21 08:24PM +0200
On 2015-09-21 11:43, Rosario19 wrote: > the code of that member functions, operators etc of the template class > in the .dll file [in a way it is possible use that template class from > some other .cpp file]? This is only possible in a limited way. You need to use explicit instantiation: <http://en.cppreference.com/w/cpp/language/class_template#Explicit_instantiation> So you need to know which types your template(s) will be used with and perform explicit instantiations for those. Only the file where you do those instantiations needs access to the template definitions. | mark <mark@invalid.invalid>: Sep 20 07:37PM +0200
On 2015-09-20 15:15, Sui Huang wrote: > #3. vector<HasPtr> items = {HasPtr("abc"), HasPtr("def")}; //first call default constructor, then copy constructor > [...] > #3. When copy objects to vector, why not call move constructor? Initializer lists don't support move, the elements can only be accessed as const and thus must be copied. There is a proposal to support move, so this may be possible in C++17. | jt@toerring.de (Jens Thoms Toerring): Sep 19 10:49PM
> to failed attempts to read the file? I think I spot some errors. Clearly > read4096 should be Read4096. Also I think read4096(readbuf) should be > Read4096(buf). No, definitely not. There's a large chance that 'buf' has not enough space left to accept another 4096 bytes at this stage but just 'remain' bytes. To avoid that you need a buffer that can accept the full 096 bytes. > I would also make num_copy simply remain instead of > min(num_read, remain). No, because you just want to append to 'buf' as much as was requested, not everything that may have been read (which might be more than still fits into 'buf'). Both your proposed changes could result in writing past the end of 'buf' which must be avoided at all costs! That's the raw material for buffer-overflow attacks, i.e. it not only makes your program behave in unpredictable ways but may even allow the "bad guys" to wreak havoc by carefully crafted files they may get you (or some user of your progam) to read in. > buf += num_read; > total += num_read; > } This tries to read as many 4096-byte chunks as can be read from the file (modulo some typing errors like 'read4096' versus 'Read4096'). > if ( total != n - remain ) > return total; Here things start to get a bit strange. If 'n' is an integer multiple of 4096 (thus 'remain' is 0 ) and everything went well one probably should also stop here and not attempt to read anymore from the file. The code only seems to catch cases of read errors (or less in the file than requested). But that could be fixed easily by using '<=' instead of '!=' in the if condition. The case that 'n' is smaller than 4096 though is handled correctly - in that case the loop never gets run, thus 'total' is still 0 and so is 'n-remain' - thus the fol- lowing code will get executed. > int num_copy = min( num_read, remain ); > copy( readbuf, readbuf + num_copy, buf ); > total += num_copy; I don't see anything broken here (assuming that somewhere before there was a line with 'using std;'). > return total; > } What's missing from the specifications is if it should be possible to call this function several times. The way it's written it can only be called once - or data from the file may get lost. If it's to be called again and again (e.g. with small values of 'n' for a large file) the stuff read into 'readbuf' would have to be stored (e.g. by making 'readbuf' a static variable) and it would also have to be recorded in another static va- riable how much from the last read in the last call has not yet been returned to caller, and dealing with that on entry into the function. Since Read4096() is obviously meant to be called several times to read in a file in chunks of that size I would tend to assume that the same is also intended with this function. But that won't work when bytes read from the file but not yet returned to the caller are simply dis- carded. So the function, as it is, satisfies the requi- rements by the letter, but probably isn't what was ex- pected. Regards, Jens -- \ Jens Thoms Toerring ___ jt@toerring.de \__________________________ http://toerring.de | Kalle Olavi Niemitalo <kon@iki.fi>: Sep 20 12:04PM +0300
> char readbuf[ 4096 ]; > int num_read = Read4096( readbuf ); > However, it seems (to me) to read from an array of uninitialized chars. That code does not read from the array. The expression Read4096(readbuf) means the same thing as Read4096(&readbuf[0]); the array "decays" to a pointer that points to the first element of the array. Only that pointer is passed to the function Read4096, which then uses it to write to the array. The same thing would happen in fread(readbuf, 1, 4096, file). > Why not the code below? Consider what happens if someone calls it like this, and the file actually is 50 bytes long; char smallbuf[10]; int got = read(smallbuf, 10); The intended effect is that the first 10 bytes of the file should be read to smallbuf. > int read(char* buf, int n){ > int num_it = n / 4096; > int total = 0; This would set num_it = 0 and total = 0. > for(int i = num_it; num_it >= 0; --num_it){ This would set i = 0 and enter the loop body. > int num_read = read4096(buf); This would try to read 4096 bytes to buf, which points to smallbuf. Because the file is 50 bytes long, read4096 would read only 50 bytes to smallbuf. But smallbuf only has room for 10 bytes, so read4096 would write past the end of smallbuf and likely corrupt some other object. | jt@toerring.de (Jens Thoms Toerring): Sep 20 10:13AM
> However, it seems (to me) to read from an array of uninitialized chars. > That's why I wanted to read from buf rather than from the uninitialized > array. As Kalle has already pointed out, this doesn't read from 'readbuf' - the Read4096() function reads from a file (up to 4096 bytes) and puts them into the buffer you call it with. So it will write what it read into 'readbuf'. > } > return total; > } The problem is the buffer the caller passes to the function. The user isn't supposed to know how the function works in- ternally. So it's reasonable for him to assume that the buffer he or she passes to the function doesn't have to be larger than the number of bytes he requests. And for that reason alone the function may never try to write more than as many bytes as the user requested into the buffer supplied by him (or her). Consider an attempt by the user to read the file character by character, similar to fgetc(). So he might do char c; while ( read( &c, 1 ) == 1 ) do_something_with_the_character( c ) The user expects to get exactly one character (or nothing when the end of the file has been reached). But your ver- sion of the function would try to stuff up to 4096 bytes into the location of 'c' where there's room for just a single character (thus writing over the memory following it, pos- sibly destroying other important data, smashing the stack etc.) and would return a number between 0 and 4096, depen- ding on how much was still available in the file. But the user had no reason to expect that the function would return anything but 1 or 0. This type of use case is also why I would consider the function you originally posted to be deficient. While it at least doesn't write past the end of the user supplied buffer and never has a return value larger than the num- ber of characters the user requested, it discards all the characters it read in from the file but could not return to the user. If used in the way shown above, i. e. in an attempt to read in the file character by cha- racter, it would return just every 4096th character from the file, which probably isn't what any user of it would expect. To use it properly the user would have to be aware that, to get everything from the file, it must be called with a buffer with a length that's an integer multiple of 4096. And then it probably would be simpler to use Read4096() directly;-) Regards, Jens -- \ Jens Thoms Toerring ___ jt@toerring.de \__________________________ http://toerring.de | Christian Gollwitzer <auriocus@gmx.de>: Sep 20 02:08PM +0200
Am 19.09.15 um 22:56 schrieb Paul: > Todo: Use above API to Implement API > "int Read(char* buf, int n)" which reads any number of chars from the file. > Below is a solution offered by someone posting at that site. I have questions about this as follows. Others have already pointed out where this solution is insufficient. I'd like to add: this solution tries to optimize away copying by calling read4096 directly into the output bufer, if possible. For sure this can be done, and it'll be a little more efficient than copying - but it would be far easier to get it correct with a "static char readbuf[4096]" and a "static size_t readbufindex" that points to the first byte not-yet retrieved and a "static char buflength", pointing to the end of the data in readbuf. You then always only fill the buffer if the request cannot be fulfilled from the remaining content. Sure, this will waste a few bytes and make it a bit slower due to copying - but first you should try to implement a correct version, profile, and then maybe optimize. If the read4096 takes lots of time to get the data from the external device, copying might be negligible. Christian | ram@zedat.fu-berlin.de (Stefan Ram): Sep 21 10:29PM
>Here is some example code using the default random number generator >(std::rand()). This was the default in C. For tutorials, never for applications where random numbers matter! In 2015, in C++, we have several pseudo-random number generation engines and adaptors (see at the end). The standard defines /the interfaces/ int rand(void); . When you create >small differences between the average minimum and maximum values , you are using /an implementation/ of the interface int rand(void); . Use another implementation of the same interface int rand(void); and get another result! The strength and weaknesses of the widespread implementation with next = next * 1103515245 + 12345; are already well-documented. Check this out: #include <iostream> #include <ostream> #include <random> struct rng0 { ::std::random_device rd; ::std::mt19937 rng; ::std::uniform_int_distribution< int >uni; rng0(): rd(), rng( rd() ), uni( 0, 11 ) {} int rnd(){ return uni( rng ); }}; int main () { rng0 rng0; for( int i = 0; i < 9; ++i ) ::std::cout << rng0.rnd() << '\n'; } . I don't say that this is »better« than »::std::rand()«, but a C++ programmer should know about the new classes for random-number generation, and - when it matters - about the most important third-party libraries. | ram@zedat.fu-berlin.de (Stefan Ram): Sep 21 10:31PM
>/* here some values might be put into the map */ >for( const ::std::pair< ::std::string, int > & pair : map ) >/* assume a statement here that might use the pair */ Yes, the correct answers were given in this thread, and it's correct that I got both ideas from the same book. |
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