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TOPIC: Need help with printing Unicode! (C++ on CentOS)
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== 1 of 8 ==
Date: Mon, Aug 31 2009 6:10 am
From: Zerex71
On Aug 28, 2:00 pm, Juha Nieminen <nos...@thanks.invalid> wrote:
> Zerex71 wrote:
> > I'm sure this has been addressed before but I've hunted all over the
> > web and no one seems to provide a comprehensive answer. I just want
> > to do one thing: Under CentOS, in a simple C++ program, I'd like to be
> > able to print Unicode characters to a console output. For example,
> > I'd like to print the musical flat, natural, and sharp signs.
>
> > Here's what I've done so far:
> > 1. Using Eclipse, created a small C++ console project.
> > 2. Declare three chars, each of type wchar_t, and assigned them their
> > Unicode values (0x266d, 0x266e, 0x266f).
> > 3. Attempted to print them out using wprintf().
>
> You can't output raw unicode values and expect your terminal emulator
> to understand them. You have to output them *encoded* with the same
> encoding scheme as your terminal. Usually this will be UTF-8.
>
> Either output the encoded values directly, or use an UTF-8 encoding
> library to convert your raw unicode values into UTF-8 codes. One such
> library is, for example:http://utfcpp.sourceforge.net/
That encoding library looked way too involved for what I want to do,
and in the end, I didn't see any simple method to set my encoding or
do whatever I need to do to print my characters. I just want to pass
my Unicode code string to a function and have it print out correctly.
Thanks.
== 2 of 8 ==
Date: Mon, Aug 31 2009 6:21 am
From: Zerex71
> What locale are you using? And what encoding does the font use?
> You need to ensure that the encoding in the locale is the same
> as the one used by the renderer for the font.
How do I check what encoding the font has?
== 3 of 8 ==
Date: Mon, Aug 31 2009 7:03 am
From: Zerex71
On Aug 29, 7:42 am, James Kanze <james.ka...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Aug 28, 6:51 pm, Zerex71 <mfeher1...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > I'm sure this has been addressed before but I've hunted all
> > over the web and no one seems to provide a comprehensive
> > answer. I just want to do one thing: Under CentOS, in a
> > simple C++ program, I'd like to be able to print Unicode
> > characters to a console output.
>
> I've never heard of CentOS, so I can't address any system
> specific problems here (and they would be off topic).
>
> > For example, I'd like to print the musical flat, natural, and
> > sharp signs.
> > Here's what I've done so far:
> > 1. Using Eclipse, created a small C++ console project.
> > 2. Declare three chars, each of type wchar_t, and assigned them their
> > Unicode values (0x266d, 0x266e, 0x266f).
> > 3. Attempted to print them out using wprintf().
> > 4. Set my output console to a font which can represent the characters
> > (glyphs?) - Lucida Console
>
> What locale are you using? And what encoding does the font use?
> You need to ensure that the encoding in the locale is the same
> as the one used by the renderer for the font.
>
> > A few observations:
> > 1. I can go to a Unicode code page website and copy the
> > characters displayed and paste them into my source file which
> > is in the same font (that was my first trick which ultimately
> > blew me out of the water because Eclipse was bitching about
> > not being to save the files due to encoding...tried changing
> > it...then it promptly deleted all my lines and left me with a
> > bunch of NUL).
>
> First, a source file isn't in a "font". A source file is a
> sequence of text characters, in a certain encoding. A font
> defines how specific characters will be rendered.
>
> Secondly, in order to be displayable everywhere, I think that
> the Unicode code pages use images, and not characters, for the
> characters in the code pages. This allows displaying characters
> which aren't in any font installed on the machine. There's no
> way copy/pasting an image to your source file can possibly work.
>
> > 2. Mixing cout and wprintf results in the wprintf statements being
> > totally ignored.
>
> You've raised an interesting point. According to the C standard
> (relevant to wprintf), you can't mix wide and narrow output on
> the same stream (in this case, stdout). C++ has a similar
> restriction---if you've output to cout, use of wcout becomes
> illegal, and vice versa. And since stdout and cout/wcout are
> supposed to use the same stream, and are synchronized with one
> another (by default), I'm pretty sure that the intent is not to
> allow this either. In general, all of your IO to a given source
> or sink should be of the same type; if you want to output
> wchar_t somewhere, all output should be as wchar_t.
>
> > 3. Using only wprintf results in "Sign: ?" displayed in the
> > console output, even though it can display the glyphs
> > correctly when I pasted them (1.)
>
> Probably a question of locale. In the "C" locale, most
> implementations only allow characters in the range 0...127 when
> converting wchar_t to char.
>
> For wprintf, you'll have to set the global locale. For
> std::wcout, you'll have to imbue the desired locale (since the
> object was constructed using the global locale before you could
> modify the global locale).
>
> > 4. Calling setlocale() as directed by an example has no effect
> > on my program.
>
> What did you use as an argument to setlocale()? (But this is
> very OS dependent. I know how it works under Unix, but not for
> other systems.)
>
> > 5. Using fwide() to determine if my setup is legit works
> > because I don't hit the exit condition that I wrote for that
> > test.
> > So, I don't know what else to try to get this to work.
> > There's a lot of stuff about Unicode on Windows out there but
> > I'm not doing Windows, and figured the Linux community might
> > have an answer.
>
> Linux is pretty simple. Just use a UTF-8 locale and a UTF-8
> encoded font, and everything works pretty well. For that
> matter, under Unix, if all you're concerned with is a few
> special characters, I'd just manually encode them as strings in
> UTF-8, and output them as char. Most (in not all) of the
> locales simply pass all char straight through, without worrying
> whether they're legal or not. So instead of a wchar_t with
> 0x266D, you'd use:
> char const flat[] = "\xE2\x99\xAD" ;
> and output that directly. (At least, that's what I think should
> happen. I don't get any output for the above, but it works with
> other Unicode characters, so I suspect that the problem is
> simply that my fonts don't contain the characters you give. All
> of the Wingbats (codes 2600 to 26FF) display as a simple blank
> on my Linux machine.)
>
> --
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So let me see if I can explain my understanding of this whole thing
(because I want to finally solve this problem, having been trying to
figure it out off and on for quite a while):
1. Let's say I have a file, and it's nothing more than a string of 1s
and 0s when you get right down to it.
2. The encoding that I will use to read/display the file specifies to
the OS how to group and treat the bits.
3. A selected encoding then specifies (for lack of a better term) a
set of codepages from which to select the characters to display (i.e.
based on a particular grouping of bits/bytes, this will index into an
appropriate set of characters).
4. The bytes are presented to the display portion of the OS and it
will reference the operable font in the window, editor, dialog, etc.
to display the individual characters.
5. If the specified font doesn't have a glyph for a given byte
combination, the resulting behavior will be unpredictable.
6. If it does, it will basically do a table lookup for the appropriate
glyph, and fetch that glyph and dump it to the screen.
Is any of this correct?
== 4 of 8 ==
Date: Mon, Aug 31 2009 7:14 am
From: Zerex71
For reference, the page I am using to obtain my chars is
http://www.atm.ox.ac.uk/user/iwi/charmap.html.
I select 2 and 6 from the codepage dropdowns at top, then click on 6D,
6E, and 6F, and it places the chars up above in an output box. I can
copy those chars and paste them into my sourcecode editor and they
display properly, but run immediately into problems if I try to save
or compile. But they display just fine.
Mike
== 5 of 8 ==
Date: Mon, Aug 31 2009 9:13 am
From: Juha Nieminen
Zerex71 wrote:
> That encoding library looked way too involved for what I want to do,
That's because you didn't really find out how to use it. You were most
probably confused by the large example at the beginning. The library is
really simple to use.
std::string encodedString;
for(size_t i = 0; i < unicodeValues.size(); ++i)
utf8::append(unicodeValues[i], std::back_inserter(encodedString);
std::cout << encodedString;
> and in the end, I didn't see any simple method to set my encoding or
> do whatever I need to do to print my characters. I just want to pass
> my Unicode code string to a function and have it print out correctly.
> Thanks.
The above code does exactly that.
== 6 of 8 ==
Date: Mon, Aug 31 2009 9:46 am
From: Zerex71
On Aug 31, 12:13 pm, Juha Nieminen <nos...@thanks.invalid> wrote:
> Zerex71 wrote:
> > That encoding library looked way too involved for what I want to do,
>
> That's because you didn't really find out how to use it. You were most
> probably confused by the large example at the beginning. The library is
> really simple to use.
>
> std::string encodedString;
> for(size_t i = 0; i < unicodeValues.size(); ++i)
> utf8::append(unicodeValues[i], std::back_inserter(encodedString);
> std::cout << encodedString;
>
> > and in the end, I didn't see any simple method to set my encoding or
> > do whatever I need to do to print my characters. I just want to pass
> > my Unicode code string to a function and have it print out correctly.
> > Thanks.
>
> The above code does exactly that.
Thanks for your information, but you know what, I really don't care to
spend hours looking for something that should be fairly simple to do.
I wasn't "confused" by anything. I just don't have time an interest
in becoming a Unicode expert to do something very simple. I wonder if
this means I have to download and install the utfcpp library, or if I
can just do this as-is in the code above.
== 7 of 8 ==
Date: Mon, Aug 31 2009 10:00 am
From: Paavo Helde
Zerex71 <mfeher1971@gmail.com> kirjutas:
>
> Also, help me understand in your example how my code 0x266D gets
> turned into "\xE2\x99\xAD".
Presumably this is UTF-8 encoding of your character.
One thing is the encoding your source file uses, and the other is what
you want to output. I'm not familiar with Eclipse so I cannot comment on
the former. If needed, you can use iconv() to convert from your encoding
to UTF-8.
The following program works for me on a SuSE Linux and produces some kind
of music sign on the console. My locale is LANG=en_US.utf8.
#include <stdio.h>
int main() {
const unsigned char test[4]={0xE2, 0x99, 0xAD, 0};
printf("Test: %s\n", test);
}
hth
Paavo
== 8 of 8 ==
Date: Mon, Aug 31 2009 10:54 am
From: Zerex71
On Aug 31, 1:00 pm, Paavo Helde <pa...@nospam.please.ee> wrote:
> Zerex71 <mfeher1...@gmail.com> kirjutas:
>
>
>
> > Also, help me understand in your example how my code 0x266D gets
> > turned into "\xE2\x99\xAD".
>
> Presumably this is UTF-8 encoding of your character.
>
> One thing is the encoding your source file uses, and the other is what
> you want to output. I'm not familiar with Eclipse so I cannot comment on
> the former. If needed, you can use iconv() to convert from your encoding
> to UTF-8.
>
> The following program works for me on a SuSE Linux and produces some kind
> of music sign on the console. My locale is LANG=en_US.utf8.
>
> #include <stdio.h>
>
> int main() {
> const unsigned char test[4]={0xE2, 0x99, 0xAD, 0};
> printf("Test: %s\n", test);
>
> }
>
> hth
> Paavo
Hi Paavo,
Thanks for the help. I will try that. I still do not see how 0x266D
=> E299AD. Where is the conversion for that explained?
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TOPIC: Modifying non-const object from const function?
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== 1 of 4 ==
Date: Mon, Aug 31 2009 6:16 am
From: "fdm"
hm I can only see the replies when using google and not when I use Outlook
Express. Maybe its my news server that is slow.
"fdm" <fdm@gk.com> wrote in message
news:4a9ba6cc$0$279$14726298@news.sunsite.dk...
>I have a const function where it should be possible to modify an object but
>not the argument:
>
> void myfun(const int point) const {
>
> m_Container.push_back(point);
>
>
> }
>
> But I get the error:
>
> Error 13 error C2662: 'std::vector<_Ty>::push_back' : cannot convert
> 'this' pointer from 'const std::vector<_Ty>' to 'std::vector<_Ty> &'
>
> The above is a simplified example of a library that I am supposed to
> modify without changing the function declarations. How do I make it
> possible to modify the std::vector m_Container from the above const
> function?
>
>
== 2 of 4 ==
Date: Mon, Aug 31 2009 6:26 am
From: Jerry Coffin
In article <4a9ba6cc$0$279$14726298@news.sunsite.dk>, fdm@gk.com
says...
>
> I have a const function where it should be possible to modify an object but
> not the argument:
>
> void myfun(const int point) const {
>
> m_Container.push_back(point);
>
>
> }
>
> But I get the error:
>
> Error 13 error C2662: 'std::vector<_Ty>::push_back' : cannot convert 'this'
> pointer from 'const std::vector<_Ty>' to 'std::vector<_Ty> &'
>
> The above is a simplified example of a library that I am supposed to modify
> without changing the function declarations. How do I make it possible to
> modify the std::vector m_Container from the above const function?
If you're modifying a member variable, then either the function
shouldn't be declared const:
void myfun(const int point) {
m_Container.push_back(point);
}
Or m_Container should be defined to be mutable. As a stop-gap, you
can cast away the constness, though this is generally a poor idea.
--
Later,
Jerry.
== 3 of 4 ==
Date: Mon, Aug 31 2009 6:54 am
From: Francesco
On 31 Ago, 15:26, Jerry Coffin <jerryvcof...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> In article <4a9ba6cc$0$279$14726...@news.sunsite.dk>, f...@gk.com
> says...
>
>
>
>
>
> > I have a const function where it should be possible to modify an object but
> > not the argument:
>
> > void myfun(const int point) const {
>
> > m_Container.push_back(point);
>
> > }
>
> > But I get the error:
>
> > Error 13 error C2662: 'std::vector<_Ty>::push_back' : cannot convert 'this'
> > pointer from 'const std::vector<_Ty>' to 'std::vector<_Ty> &'
>
> > The above is a simplified example of a library that I am supposed to modify
> > without changing the function declarations. How do I make it possible to
> > modify the std::vector m_Container from the above const function?
>
> If you're modifying a member variable, then either the function
> shouldn't be declared const:
>
> void myfun(const int point) {
>
> m_Container.push_back(point);
>
> }
>
> Or m_Container should be defined to be mutable. As a stop-gap, you
> can cast away the constness, though this is generally a poor idea.
Jerry, just a question to clear a doubt of mine: did you receive
Pascal's and my replies to this thread? I'm noticing that sometimes
people posts replies which contain already pointed out things, and
that's strange. Maybe Google Groups is not sending out replies to the
other servers immediately as expected, hence the delay noticed by fdm
and your reply... I don't know.
Just out of curiosity,
king regards,
Francesco
== 4 of 4 ==
Date: Mon, Aug 31 2009 6:59 am
From: Francesco
On 31 Ago, 15:16, "fdm" <f...@gk.com> wrote:
> hm I can only see the replies when using google and not when I use Outlook
> Express. Maybe its my news server that is slow.
>
> "fdm" <f...@gk.com> wrote in message
>
> news:4a9ba6cc$0$279$14726298@news.sunsite.dk...
>
> >I have a const function where it should be possible to modify an object but
> >not the argument:
>
> > void myfun(const int point) const {
>
> > m_Container.push_back(point);
>
> > }
>
> > But I get the error:
>
> > Error 13 error C2662: 'std::vector<_Ty>::push_back' : cannot convert
> > 'this' pointer from 'const std::vector<_Ty>' to 'std::vector<_Ty> &'
>
> > The above is a simplified example of a library that I am supposed to
> > modify without changing the function declarations. How do I make it
> > possible to modify the std::vector m_Container from the above const
> > function?
>
>
Fine, now you read all of our replies. Have you solved this issue?
And what about the other thread of yours that's still open - the one
titled "Possible problem with smartpointers (for the hardcore C++
gurus)"?
Best regards,
Francesco
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