Sunday, May 15, 2016

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Prroffessorr Fir Kenobi <profesor.fir@gmail.com>: May 15 01:47AM -0700

W dniu czwartek, 12 maja 2016 19:20:30 UTC+2 użytkownik Jerry Stuckle napisał:
 
> You can complain, also. Maybe if enough people here complained, Ray
> would do something about it. However, even if it's off topic, just
> posting to 3-4 newsgroups may not be considered spamming.
 
if you find the thing ramine is doing as a not a spam you imo may be close to considered as insane, idiot or both ;o
 
this brickas ramine treats a groups as a target for his adverstitments he sorta like
redirects his spam like "rss feed" or how to call it - he do not engages in discussion as all others do, only flushes
his crap (he is also an idiot which is seen when reading what he writes - he implemented his synchronisation crap and he says after that c++ is great again (before this c++ was not great in his opinion - this is preposterous idiot
 
he also trashes a lot of other forums as far as i know, for example intel ones,
he is also quite effective in puttine every place down, as people imo are somewhat astonished and distasted by active idiot
and stop posting there
 
he publishes info about himself and he said
as far as i remember he is muslim form marocco (?) living in canada (or something like that), he also publishes his email adres which suggest he works in company named videotron in canada (or at least it was in 2014)
 
Imo he has a right to be an idiot but he should not be abuising internet so heavily - he just treats forums as output stream of his rss feeds of extremally boring crap he works on mixed with his own stupidity
 
and thats how it looks like (im not against an oryginals - there is a couple of oryginals on programming forums (including myself) each one has a set of different opinions skills and weaknesses - but such
brickas abusing stream puttig down places
that could be used for increasing knowledge otherwise is a bit (or far) to much imo
Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net>: May 15 11:47AM -0400

On 5/15/2016 4:47 AM, Prroffessorr Fir Kenobi wrote:
>> would do something about it. However, even if it's off topic, just
>> posting to 3-4 newsgroups may not be considered spamming.
 
> if you find the thing ramine is doing as a not a spam you imo may be close to considered as insane, idiot or both ;o
 
No, but you are a complete idiot, as your post showed. And you don't
read very well, either.
 
> this brickas ramine treats a groups as a target for his adverstitments he sorta like
> redirects his spam like "rss feed" or how to call it - he do not engages in discussion as all others do, only flushes
> his crap (he is also an idiot which is seen when reading what he writes - he implemented his synchronisation crap and he says after that c++ is great again (before this c++ was not great in his opinion - this is preposterous idiot
 
Whatever you say.
 
> he also trashes a lot of other forums as far as i know, for example intel ones,
> he is also quite effective in puttine every place down, as people imo are somewhat astonished and distasted by active idiot
> and stop posting there
 
You don't read very well, do you? Not surprising, from your responses.
 
> he publishes info about himself and he said
> as far as i remember he is muslim form marocco (?) living in canada (or something like that), he also publishes his email adres which suggest he works in company named videotron in canada (or at least it was in 2014)
 
What does him being "muslim form marocco" (do you mean Muslim from
Morocco?) have to do do with it? Your bias (many people would call it
racism, but Muslim is not a race. No difference, though.) as well as
your crappy spelling are showing. Sheesh - even with a spell checker
you can't get it right.
 
> Imo he has a right to be an idiot but he should not be abuising internet so heavily - he just treats forums as output stream of his rss feeds of extremally boring crap he works on mixed with his own stupidity
 
Yes, that's YOUR OPINION. Nothing more.
 
> and thats how it looks like (im not against an oryginals - there is a couple of oryginals on programming forums (including myself) each one has a set of different opinions skills and weaknesses - but such
> brickas abusing stream puttig down places
> that could be used for increasing knowledge otherwise is a bit (or far) to much imo
 
It seems like you're against a lot of things. Like Muslims and proper
spelling. What is an "oryginal", anyway?
 
I'd suggest you stop before you show even more your ignorance and bias.
 
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Prroffessorr Fir Kenobi <profesor.fir@gmail.com>: May 15 09:36AM -0700

[exclaimer: i hope that it si clear
this was not about crap makers and
its infantile crappy complexes
but about ram idiot abuser, I just wanted to provide explanation on our brickass ram destroyer]
Prroffessorr Fir Kenobi <profesor.fir@gmail.com>: May 15 09:38AM -0700

datz all
Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net>: May 15 12:43PM -0400

On 5/15/2016 12:38 PM, Prroffessorr Fir Kenobi wrote:
> datz all
 
That's good. We don't need your crap here. It's more annoying than
Ramine. At least he tries to use proper grammar and spelling!
 
Just one more proof that you're an idiot.
 
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Prroffessorr Fir Kenobi <profesor.fir@gmail.com>: May 15 09:54AM -0700

W dniu niedziela, 15 maja 2016 18:43:40 UTC+2 użytkownik Jerry Stuckle napisał:
 
> That's good. We don't need your crap here. It's more annoying than
> Ramine. At least he tries to use proper grammar and spelling!
 
> Just one more proof that you're an idiot.
 
you all infanile brain-disfunctional crap-makers think so (in reality im slightly over the average and that is a problem, im so cursed)
Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net>: May 15 04:47PM -0400

On 5/15/2016 12:54 PM, Prroffessorr Fir Kenobi wrote:
>> Ramine. At least he tries to use proper grammar and spelling!
 
>> Just one more proof that you're an idiot.
 
> you all infanile brain-disfunctional crap-makers think so (in reality im slightly over the average and that is a problem, im so cursed)
 
ROFLMAO! As if what a total idiot says is worth anything.
 
Let me clue you - it isn't. And neither are you.
 
And the only thing "cursed" is this newsgroup - by your presence.
 
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ram@zedat.fu-berlin.de (Stefan Ram): May 15 02:12PM

>Yup, you need a better Usenet client. Looks like you're using a DIY one.
 
I have to excuse, because I wrote something that could
have been read as a claim that you were not able to
control the line breaks in the posts that you sent!
 
Instead, it seems to have been /my news server/ that
has inserted spurious line endings into your post!
 
However, you seem to have suggested that it was my
Usenet client. This, however, is wrong, because I have
checked the line endings now accessing my news server
with /telnet/.
 
Here is a transcript of the session.
 
My input is labelled with »<«, while the output of
the system is labelled with »>«. The hyphen »-« marks
where lines were deleted from the transcript.
 
Transcript of command-line session
 
00 < telnet news 119 | tee tmp.txt
01 -
02 > Connected to news.
03 > Escape character is '^]'.
04 -
05 < article <nh5sah$aer$1@dont-email.me>
06 -
10 < quit
11 > Connection closed by foreign host.
12 -
13 < od -c tmp.txt
14 -
15 > 0007366 { \n
16 > 0007400 / /
17 > 0007412 T h i s i s j u
18 > 0007424 s t a b e s t
19 > 0007436 e f f o r t t o
20 > 0007450 r e s t o r e t h
21 > 0007462 e c o n s o l e
22 > 0007474 o n \n p r o g r a
23 > 0007506 m t e r m i n a t
24 > 0007520 i o n . \n
25 > 0007532 / /
 
One can see in line 22 that there is a spurious »\n«
that my news server seems to have inserted into your
post. I now see that you and your excellent Usenet
client actually wrote the correct comment line and
then my news server has arbitrarily inserted a new
line character, and then sended me the broken line.
 
So I have to excuse for choosing such a misbehaving
news server! I will be more careful to always first
inspect my own tools before I accuse someone else.
And I will look around for a better news server!
ram@zedat.fu-berlin.de (Stefan Ram): May 15 02:54PM

>That's called ''flowed format'': a space before the line ending signifies
>a logical line continuation
 
I looked this up and used »RFC 2646« of the standards track.
 
It does not speak of »logical lines« but of »paragraphs«.
 
Paragraphs are units of natural-language prose, such as
English. In English paragraphs, the meaning of a space
usually is the same as the meaning of a new-line character.
In C++, it is not, e. g.:
 
a = 2;
// a = 3; a = 4;
 
has another effect than
 
a = 2;
// a = 3;
a = 4;
 
. And the RC 2646 therefore (because in English paragraphs
the distinction does not matter) says:
 
»A value of Flowed indicates that the definition of flowed text (as
specified in this memo) was used on generation, and MAY be used on
reception.«
 
. I did not uppercase the word »MAY«; it was uppercased in
the RFC already.
 
This regulation is appropriate for Englisch because an
English-language paragraph that contains some line breaks in
other positions still has the same meaning. So, when the
definition of flowed text is /not/ used on reception, it
does not change the meaning of an English language
paragraph.
 
Using »Format=Flowed« by this RFC indicates that the sender
agrees that on reception the definition of flowed text may
be used or may be used not (because the RFC says »MAY«).
This is appropriate for English prose, but not for C++
source code, where the difference matters.
ram@zedat.fu-berlin.de (Stefan Ram): May 15 03:04PM

>a = 2;
>// a = 3;
>a = 4;
...
>be used or may be used not (because the RFC says »MAY«).
>This is appropriate for English prose, but not for C++
>source code, where the difference matters.
 
And what does this have to do with C++?
 
As I already wrote before: The lesson is:
 
When writing C++ source code, prefer comments that start
with »/*« because they are more robust should the program
ever be transferred across a medium where spaces and
line-break characters might be exchanged. Because
 
a = 2
/* a = 3; a = 4; */
 
still /does/ have the same meaning as
 
a = 2;
/* a = 3;
a = 4; */
 
.
bleachbot <bleachbot@httrack.com>: May 15 09:16PM +0200

Ramine <ramine@1.1>: May 15 12:16PM -0700

Hello....
 
One last touch..
 
My C++ synchronization objects library was updated again..
 
I have made my scalable Asym_RWLock and my scalable Asym_RWLockX
support a max of 1024 threads.
 
So now i think that my C++ synchronization objects library is
complete and i think it's more stable.
 
You can download my new updated C++ synchronization objects library from:
 
https://sites.google.com/site/aminer68/c-synchronization-objects-library
 
 
Thank you,
Amine Moulay Ramdane.
"Alf P. Steinbach" <alf.p.steinbach+usenet@gmail.com>: May 15 04:31PM +0200

On 15.05.2016 16:12, Stefan Ram wrote:
 
> One can see in line 22 that there is a spurious »\n«
> that my news server seems to have inserted into your
> post.
 
That's called "flowed format": a space before the line ending signifies
a logical line continuation when you have
 
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed
 
It's just one of the dangers of a DIY news client (assuming that's what
you're using), that there's no team to keep it up with the evolving de
facto standards.
 
Not sure of which RFC or whatever, sorry. I did know about 10 years ago
or so.
 
 
Cheers & hth. :),
 
- Alf
"Alf P. Steinbach" <alf.p.steinbach+usenet@gmail.com>: May 15 05:06PM +0200

On 15.05.2016 17:04, Stefan Ram wrote:
> with »/*« because they are more robust should the program
> ever be transferred across a medium where spaces and
> line-break characters might be exchanged.
 
lols. :)
 
 
Cheers!,
 
- Alf
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