Thursday, July 2, 2020

Digest for comp.lang.c++@googlegroups.com - 11 updates in 3 topics

boltar@nowhere.co.uk: Jul 02 09:10AM

On Wed, 1 Jul 2020 17:40:08 +0000 (UTC)
 
>> objects. Otherwise you might as well say a class is instantiated just by dint
 
>> of it existing in the code even before an object has been created from it.
 
>"Existing in the code"? You mean the source code?
 
I give up, I'm not sure how much clearer I can be.
 
>> or Estonian or whatever your native language is, and leave native English
>> speakers like me to define what the words in our language mean.
 
>Here's a better idea: Why don't you go and fuck yourself?
 
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boltar@nowhere.co.uk: Jul 02 09:12AM

On Wed, 1 Jul 2020 11:31:42 -0700 (PDT)
 
>Deliberate failure to comprehend the question noted. Language where
>rubbish can't be expressed has not been invented yet. So, boltar, you
>are offal regardless of what language you can or can not speak.
 
I can speak French quite well but I wouldn't dream of going on a French group
and arguing the toss over the definition of a french word. So go do one you
self important prick.
"Öö Tiib" <ootiib@hot.ee>: Jul 02 08:14AM -0700


> I can speak French quite well but I wouldn't dream of going on a French group
> and arguing the toss over the definition of a french word. So go do one you
> self important prick.
 
Whatever you do in your French or English groups is irrelevant and your
accusation of me arguing over definition of word "instantiation" in
English is groundless *and* nonsense.

I only noted your failure to comprehend a question and your failure
to cite from where are you getting your definition as answer. So I
diagnosed you as a piece of offal based on that.
boltar@nowhere.co.uk: Jul 02 03:23PM

On Thu, 2 Jul 2020 08:14:55 -0700 (PDT)
>I only noted your failure to comprehend a question and your failure
>to cite from where are you getting your definition as answer. So I
>diagnosed you as a piece of offal based on that.
 
*yawn* Someone wake me up when the record changes. Zzzzzz....
Vir Campestris <vir.campestris@invalid.invalid>: Jul 02 09:55PM +0100

> they are not instantiated in their own right. That happens to runtime created
> objects. Otherwise you might as well say a class is instantiated just by dint
> of it existing in the code even before an object has been created from it.
 
When you instantiate a class you make an object of that class.
 
Sometimes this is done at compile time.
 
> Here's an idea - how about you stick to giving vocabulary lessons in Finnish
> or Estonian or whatever your native language is, and leave native English
> speakers like me to define what the words in our language mean.
 
And in this case the meaning of instantiate is the meaning defined in
the C++ language standard, not the one you'd find in an English
dictionary. I'd trust Juha on the former, not the latter.
 
Andy
Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com>: Jul 02 02:12PM -0700

Vir Campestris <vir.campestris@invalid.invalid> writes:
[...]
> When you instantiate a class you make an object of that class.
 
> Sometimes this is done at compile time.
 
Are you saying that, for example given this:
 
class Foo { int n; };
Foo obj;
 
creating the object "obj" *instantiates" the class "Foo"? Where does
the C++ standard say this? (I accept that the word can be used
informally in this way.)
 
And do you have an example of an object being created at compile time?
I'd describe that as the compiler generating code that causes the object
to be created at run time (possibly while the program is being loaded).
 
[...]
 
> And in this case the meaning of instantiate is the meaning defined in
> the C++ language standard, not the one you'd find in an English
> dictionary. I'd trust Juha on the former, not the latter.
 
In a quick look through the C++ standard, I don't see a formal
definition of "instantiate". It does use the word, but usually in
reference to templates. Do you have a specific citation of the word
"instantiate" being used this way?
 
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doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca (The Doctor): Jul 01 11:25PM

In article <5a36cca9-757b-4001-832b-4b928f42e5c9o@googlegroups.com>,
 
>Please don't forget to put the doctor, XanaNews, www.avg.com, avg.com,
>nl2k.ab.ca and perhaps also ab.ca into all filters you possibly can.
>Just to show the doctor the fading power few old geeks have. ;)
 
Looks like someone does not like facts.
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Mr Flibble <flibbleREMOVETHISBIT@i42.co.uk>: Jul 02 12:42AM +0100

On 02/07/2020 00:25, The Doctor wrote:
>> nl2k.ab.ca and perhaps also ab.ca into all filters you possibly can.
>> Just to show the doctor the fading power few old geeks have. ;)
 
> Looks like someone does not like facts.
 
Pot, kettle. You appear to believe in God so you also don't appear to like facts.
 
/Flibble
 
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"I'd say, bone cancer in children? What's that about?" Fry replied.
"How dare you? How dare you create a world to which there is such misery that is not our fault. It's not right, it's utterly, utterly evil."
"Why should I respect a capricious, mean-minded, stupid God who creates a world that is so full of injustice and pain. That's what I would say."
The Real Non Homosexual <cdalten@gmail.com>: Jul 01 07:25PM -0700

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Jorgen Grahn <grahn+nntp@snipabacken.se>: Jul 02 06:35PM

On Wed, 2020-07-01, The Doctor wrote:
>>nl2k.ab.ca and perhaps also ab.ca into all filters you possibly can.
>>Just to show the doctor the fading power few old geeks have. ;)
 
> Looks like someone does not like facts.
 
Not offtopic facts, no.
*plonk*
 
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woodbrian77@gmail.com: Jul 02 07:30AM -0700

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