Saturday, October 17, 2020

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olcott <NoOne@NoWhere.com>: Oct 17 09:58AM -0500

On 10/17/2020 8:33 AM, André G. Isaak wrote:
>> in theory T.
 
> You don't "stipulate" a proposition to be undecidable. It either is or
> it isn't.
 
This: (T ⊬ φ) and (T ⊬ ¬φ) is stipulated to define the concept of
undecidable proposition. Symbols only have meanings when meanings have
been assigned to them.
 
> concerned, we've only identified a tiny fraction of the undecidable
> propositions. Because there is no general method for deciding whether a
> proposition is decidable, most will never be identified.
 
When we determine that every single undecidable proposition known or
unknown proven or unproven is only undecidable because it is incorrect
then we have covered ALL of them with NONE left out.
 
When we do this then every single proof of incompleteness that depends
on undecidable propositions utterly fails.
 
For the same reason that we cannot decide that a medical doctor is
"incompetent" in the basis of their inability to restore health to the
cremated** we cannot decide that a formal system is "incomplete" on the
basis of it inability to prove or disprove incorrect expressions of
language. ** Even Christ never did that.
 
> still leaves you with all of the unknown examples of undecidable
> propositions, which means the system remains incomplete.
 
> André
 
 
When we rename the whole category of "undecidable proposition" to
"incorrect proposition" then there are zero undecidable propositions
left to prove incompleteness.
 
 
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