Thursday, December 29, 2016

Digest for comp.lang.c++@googlegroups.com - 25 updates in 8 topics

Mr Flibble <flibble@i42.co.uk>: Dec 29 06:58PM

I do hope regular listeners enjoyed my mathematical word salads.
 
Sausages.
 
/Flibble
"Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com>: Dec 29 12:55PM -0800

On Thursday, December 29, 2016 at 1:58:42 PM UTC-5, Mr Flibble wrote:
> [snip]
 
Leigh, the life of your eternal soul hinges upon what you do with
Jesus Christ. Reject Him as you are doing, and you remain under
condemnation for your sin. Repent of your sin and ask Him to forgive
you and you pass from death to life in eternity.
 
It's your choice. Only a fool would choose eternal damnation over
eternal life.
 
Best regards,
Rick C. Hodgin
Ian Collins <ian-news@hotmail.com>: Dec 30 09:59AM +1300

On 12/30/16 07:58 AM, Mr Flibble wrote:
> I do hope regular listeners enjoyed my mathematical word salads.
 
Something amusing to read over breakfast :)
 
> Sausages.
 
Breakfast.
 
--
Ian
Ian Collins <ian-news@hotmail.com>: Dec 29 01:05PM +1300

> On Wednesday, December 28, 2016 at 3:59:23 PM UTC-6, Chris Vine wrote:
 
> Chris, please don't swear here.
 
So you can insult whole countries, but Chris can't swear?
 
Sanctimonious hypocrite.
--
Ian
Jeff-Relf.Me <@.>: Dec 28 04:08PM -0800

Dombo <dombo@disposable.invalid>: Dec 29 02:34PM +0100

> On Wednesday, December 28, 2016 at 3:59:23 PM UTC-6, Chris Vine
> wrote:
 
> Chris, please don't swear here.
 
Why not? "Fuck" is Perhaps one of the most interesting, versatile and
colorful words in the English language today. It is the one magical word
which, just by its sound, can describe pain, pleasure, love, and hate.
 
In language, "fuck" falls into many grammatical categories. It can be
used as a verb, both transitive (John fucked Mary) and intransitive
(Mary was fucked by John). It can be an action verb (John really gives a
fuck), a passive verb (Mary really doesn't give a fuck), an adverb (Mary
is fucking interested in John), or as a noun (Mary is a terrific fuck).
 
It can also be used as an adjective (Mary is fucking beautiful) or an
interjection (Fuck! I'm late for my date with Mary). It can even be used
as a conjunction (Mary is easy, fuck she's also stupid). As you can see,
there are very few words with the overall versatility of the word "fuck"..
 
Aside from its sexual connotations, this incredible word can be used to
describe many situations:
 
1. Greetings: "How the fuck are ya?"
 
2. Fraud: "I got fucked by the car dealer."
 
3. Resignation: "Oh, fuck it!"
 
4. Trouble: "I guess I'm fucked now."
 
5. Aggression: "FUCK YOU!"
 
6. Disgust: "Fuck me."
 
7. Confusion: "What the fuck.......?"
 
8. Difficulty: "I don't understand this fucking business!"
 
9. Despair: "Fucked again..."
 
10. Pleasure: "I fucking couldn't be happier."
 
11. Displeasure: "What the fuck is going on here?"
 
12. Lost: "Where the fuck are we."
 
13. Disbelief: "UNFUCKINGBELIEVABLE!"
 
14. Retaliation: "Up your fucking ass!"
 
15. Denial: "I didn't fucking do it."
 
16. Perplexity: "I know fuck all about it."
 
17. Apathy: "Who really gives a fuck, anyhow?"
 
18. Greetings: "How the fuck are ya?"
 
19. Suspicion: "Who the fuck are you?"
 
20. Panic: "Let's get the fuck out of here."
 
21. Directions: "Fuck off."
 
22. Disbelief: "How the fuck did you do that?"
 
It can be used in an anatomical description- "He's a fucking asshole."
It can be used to tell time- "It's five fucking thirty." It can be used
in business- "How did I wind up with this fucking job?" It can be
maternal- "Motherfucker." It can be political- "Fuck Dan Quayle!"
 
It has also been used by many notable people throughout history:
 
"What the fuck was that?"
- Mayor of Hiroshima
 
"Where did all these fucking Indians come from?"
- General Custer
 
"Where the fuck is all this water coming from?"
- Captain of the Titanic
 
"That's not a real fucking gun."
- John Lennon
 
"Who's gonna fucking find out?"
- Richard Nixon
 
"Heads are going to fucking roll."
- Anne Boleyn
 
"Let the fucking woman drive."
- Commander of Space Shuttle
 
"What fucking map?"
- "Challenger," Mark Thatcher
 
"Any fucking idiot could understand that."
- Albert Einstein
 
"It does so fucking look like her!"
- Picasso
 
"How the fuck did you work that out?"
- Pythagoras
 
"You want what on the fucking ceiling?"
- Michaelangelo
 
"Fuck a duck."
- Walt Disney
 
"Why?- Because its fucking there!"
- Edmund Hilary
 
"I don't suppose its gonna fucking rain?"
- Joan of Arc
 
"Scattered fucking showers my ass."
- Noah
 
"I need this parade like I need a fucking hole in my head."
- John F. Kennedy
woodbrian77@gmail.com: Dec 29 10:27AM -0800

On Thursday, December 29, 2016 at 7:32:00 AM UTC-6, Dombo wrote:
 
And he said: "Truly I tell you, unless you change and become
like little children, you will never enter the kingdom of heaven.
Matthew 18:3
 
Please don't swear here.
 
 
Brian
Ebenezer Enterprises - Here are five demonstrations that the
"Palestinians want peace" notion is an outright lie, and that
Palestinians actually prefer a continued conflict that
maintains the possibility of the full-scale destruction of
the Jewish State.
 
http://www.dailywire.com/news/11993/do-palestinians-want-peace-here-are-5-facts-say-no-ben-shapiro
Dombo <dombo@disposable.invalid>: Dec 29 08:33PM +0100


> And he said: "Truly I tell you, unless you change and become
> like little children, you will never enter the kingdom of heaven.
> Matthew 18:3
 
You really believe that the verses in your "holy" bible are like magic
spells don't you? Guess what, they don't do fuck. Grow up.
 
 
> Please don't swear here.
 
Your religion is your fucking problem mate, don't try make it my problem.
Ian Collins <ian-news@hotmail.com>: Dec 30 09:55AM +1300


> And he said: "Truly I tell you, unless you change and become
> like little children, you will never enter the kingdom of heaven.
> Matthew 18:3
 
Do little children insult whole countries?
 
> Please don't swear here.
 
Hypocrite.
 
--
Ian
Mr Flibble <flibble@i42.co.uk>: Dec 29 05:01PM

"Fuck" is Perhaps one of the most interesting, versatile and colorful
words in the English language today. It is the one magical word which,
just by its sound, can describe pain, pleasure, love, and hate.
 
In language, "fuck" falls into many grammatical categories. It can be
used as a verb, both transitive (John fucked Mary) and intransitive
(Mary was fucked by John). It can be an action verb (John really gives a
fuck), a passive verb (Mary really doesn't give a fuck), an adverb (Mary
is fucking interested in John), or as a noun (Mary is a terrific fuck).
 
It can also be used as an adjective (Mary is fucking beautiful) or an
interjection (Fuck! I'm late for my date with Mary). It can even be used
as a conjunction (Mary is easy, fuck she's also stupid). As you can see,
there are very few words with the overall versatility of the word "fuck"..
 
Aside from its sexual connotations, this incredible word can be used to
describe many situations:
 
1. Greetings: "How the fuck are ya?"
 
2. Fraud: "I got fucked by the car dealer."
 
3. Resignation: "Oh, fuck it!"
 
4. Trouble: "I guess I'm fucked now."
 
5. Aggression: "FUCK YOU!"
 
6. Disgust: "Fuck me."
 
7. Confusion: "What the fuck.......?"
 
8. Difficulty: "I don't understand this fucking business!"
 
9. Despair: "Fucked again..."
 
10. Pleasure: "I fucking couldn't be happier."
 
11. Displeasure: "What the fuck is going on here?"
 
12. Lost: "Where the fuck are we."
 
13. Disbelief: "UNFUCKINGBELIEVABLE!"
 
14. Retaliation: "Up your fucking ass!"
 
15. Denial: "I didn't fucking do it."
 
16. Perplexity: "I know fuck all about it."
 
17. Apathy: "Who really gives a fuck, anyhow?"
 
18. Greetings: "How the fuck are ya?"
 
19. Suspicion: "Who the fuck are you?"
 
20. Panic: "Let's get the fuck out of here."
 
21. Directions: "Fuck off."
 
22. Disbelief: "How the fuck did you do that?"
 
It can be used in an anatomical description- "He's a fucking asshole."
It can be used to tell time- "It's five fucking thirty." It can be used
in business- "How did I wind up with this fucking job?" It can be
maternal- "Motherfucker." It can be political- "Fuck Dan Quayle!"
 
It has also been used by many notable people throughout history:
 
"What the fuck was that?"
- Mayor of Hiroshima
 
"Where did all these fucking Indians come from?"
- General Custer
 
"Where the fuck is all this water coming from?"
- Captain of the Titanic
 
"That's not a real fucking gun."
- John Lennon
 
"Who's gonna fucking find out?"
- Richard Nixon
 
"Heads are going to fucking roll."
- Anne Boleyn
 
"Let the fucking woman drive."
- Commander of Space Shuttle
 
"What fucking map?"
- "Challenger," Mark Thatcher
 
"Any fucking idiot could understand that."
- Albert Einstein
 
"It does so fucking look like her!"
- Picasso
 
"How the fuck did you work that out?"
- Pythagoras
 
"You want what on the fucking ceiling?"
- Michaelangelo
 
"Fuck a duck."
- Walt Disney
 
"Why?- Because its fucking there!"
- Edmund Hilary
 
"I don't suppose its gonna fucking rain?"
- Joan of Arc
 
"Scattered fucking showers my ass."
- Noah
 
"I need this parade like I need a fucking hole in my head."
- John F. Kennedy
Mr Flibble <flibble@i42.co.uk>: Dec 29 05:36PM

Fuck is a command. Someone pisses you off, you tell them to Fuck off.
Simple. Fuck is an expletive, as in Fuck me, Fuck you, Fuck this. Fuck
is verb and emphasis, like Fucking jerk, or Pass the fucking salt. Fuck
gives you a way to tell someone they've overstepped the line, Shut the
fuck up, Go fuck yourself.
 
Fuck is creative and immensely satisfying. Telling someone to Go take a
flying fuck (at a rolling doughnut) will make them step back a pace.
Fuck expresses and emphasises confusion like no other word, What the
fuck, What the fucking fuck?
 
Fuck is a word for a night in the pub, Fucked again. Or for those who
give you grief while you're there, Fucktards and Motherfuckers. It can
be used on the way home, or in the morning, to great and colourful
effect, My God, I'm never fucking drinking again.
 
Fuck is rebellion, teenage or otherwise, Don't fuck with me, Don't do me
any fucking favours, Fuck the system, Who gives a fuck?
 
Fuck expresses depressive anger, Fuck the world, and equally, the
encouragement that's its opposite, Don't get fucked up, fucked over, She
isn't fucking worth it.
 
Fuck expresses confusion, Who the fuck are you, What the fuck is this,
You're fucking kidding me. It expresses exasperation, You dumb fuck.
 
With the right character, Fuck is a word that adds an underline to
almost any emotion, that exaggerates speech and reaction, that can be
put fucking everywhere, to fucking enhance anything, and still make
fucking sense.
 
Fuckers.
 
http://danieware.com/2743/fuck/
Daniel <danielaparker@gmail.com>: Dec 29 10:44AM -0800

On Thursday, December 29, 2016 at 12:01:28 PM UTC-5, Mr Flibble wrote:
 
> Aside from its sexual connotations, this incredible word can be used to
> describe many situations:
 
<22 examples snipped>
 
23. Posts "There is no such thing as the set of finite ordinals." Reads response.
Fuck!
Gareth Owen <gwowen@gmail.com>: Dec 29 06:50PM


> 23. Posts "There is no such thing as the set of finite ordinals."
> Reads response.
> Fuck!
 
"This fuckwit doesn't have the first fucking clue."
Robert Wessel <robertwessel2@yahoo.com>: Dec 29 02:49PM -0600

On Thu, 29 Dec 2016 17:36:35 +0000, Mr Flibble <flibble@i42.co.uk>
wrote:
 
>fucking sense.
 
>Fuckers.
 
>http://danieware.com/2743/fuck/
 
 
Dude!
David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no>: Dec 29 09:38AM +0100

On 28/12/16 16:34, Gareth Owen wrote:
>> because there is a way to define ordinals, but it is not a set.
 
> On a related note, I am currently attempting to teach my goldfish to
> speak Norwegian.
 
It will take time, but I am sure if you persist then it will learn in
the end. /I/ did, and we Scots are not known for our language abilities :-)
David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no>: Dec 29 09:43AM +0100

On 28/12/16 17:40, Mr Flibble wrote:
 
> Bullshit. There is no such thing as the set of finite ordinals as there
> is an infinite number of ordinals; you have also been drinking the
> koolaid like that idiot Owen.
 
/You/ referred to "the set of ordinals" a couple of posts back. Now you
don't believe in the "set of /finite/ ordinals", which is clearly going
to be a subset of the set /you/ mentioned?
 
Perhaps you are unsure about what a "set" actually is, or what an
"ordinal" is, or what "finite" means?
David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no>: Dec 29 11:00AM +0100

On 28/12/16 18:12, Mr Flibble wrote:
 
> Bullshit; you cannot have a set of infinite things as infinity is,
> unlike a set, unbounded. Countable infinities are unbounded just like
> uncountable infinities despite what Wikipedia says.
 
Sets don't have to be finite - why on earth would you think that?
 
And as for "bounded" and "unbounded", you have to be very careful of
what you mean. These terms refer to order, not size. The set
 
{x ∈ ℝ : x > 0 and x < 1}
 
is infinite and unbounded (since the limits, 0 and 1, are not in the
set), while the set
 
{x ∈ ℝ : x ≥ 0 and x ≤ 1}
 
is infinite and bounded.
 
(All finite sets are bounded.)
Mr Flibble <flibbleREMOVETHISBIT@i42.co.uk>: Dec 29 11:05AM -0600


> {x ∈ ℝ : x ≥ 0 and x ≤ 1}
 
> is infinite and bounded.
 
> (All finite sets are bounded.)
 
Exactly.
 
/Flibble
Gareth Owen <gwowen@gmail.com>: Dec 29 05:43PM


> {x ∈ ℝ : x > 0 and x < 1}
 
> is infinite and unbounded (since the limits, 0 and 1, are not in the
> set), while the set
 
That's not what we were taught re bounded and unbounded. The definition
I was taught was to do with there being a metric, and that there was a
 
∃r ∈ ℝ such that ||x|| < r ∀x ∈ S
 
> {x ∈ ℝ : x ≥ 0 and x ≤ 1}
 
> is infinite and bounded.
 
This is closer to the definition I know for open/closed (but not the same)
 
> (All finite sets are bounded.)
 
Still true.
"Alf P. Steinbach" <alf.p.steinbach+usenet@gmail.com>: Dec 29 12:34AM +0100

> ::std::unique_ptr<cmw_request> request(::new cmw_request(localbuf));
 
> After getting C++ 2014 compilers, I wrote it like this:
> auto request=::std::make_unique<cmw_request>(localbuf);
 
I haven't used the feature, but I think if `localbuf` is not a pointer
but something passed by reference, you need to use `std::ref`.
 
And in general, I'd just make a factory function.
 
 
Cheers!,
 
- Alf
"Alf P. Steinbach" <alf.p.steinbach+usenet@gmail.com>: Dec 29 12:37AM +0100

On 25.12.2016 04:48, Ian Collins wrote:
>> ::std::unique_ptr<cmw_request> request(::new cmw_request(localbuf));
 
> I can see some (very week) justification for the superfluous colons
> before std, but new?
 
It avoids invoking a class-specific override of the allocation function.
 
It can be bug because if `std::default_delete` isn't specialized for
this class, it will use an ordinary delete expression that invokes a
class specific deallocation function if such exists.
 
But then, if `std::default_delete` isn't specialized and the class
overrides allocation and deallocation, then this qualification is a sort
of dirty workaround: not benefiting from the custom allocator, but at
least not invoking Undefined Behavior.
 
 
Cheers!,
 
- Alf
woodbrian77@gmail.com: Dec 28 06:23PM -0800

On Wednesday, December 28, 2016 at 5:34:28 PM UTC-6, Alf P. Steinbach wrote:
> > auto request=::std::make_unique<cmw_request>(localbuf);
 
> I haven't used the feature, but I think if `localbuf` is not a pointer
> but something passed by reference, you need to use `std::ref`.
 
What feature do you mean? localbuf isn't a pointer. I've
not gotten any compiler warnings or run time errors from that
line. It is currently line 257 in this file:
 
https://github.com/woodbrian/onwards/blob/master/cmwAmbassador.cc
 
 
> And in general, I'd just make a factory function.
 
You may have missed what I was asking about. There's a new way
to write that line without using make_unique. This has more info:
 
http://open-std.org/JTC1/SC22/WG21/docs/papers/2015/n4471.html
 
It says: Creating "make functions" like make_tuple is confusing,
artificial, extra boilerplate, and inconsistent with how non-template
classes are constructed.
 
Unfortunately, none of the examples they mention are of
std::unique_ptr.
 
 
Brian
Ebenezer Enterprises - Enjoy programming again.
http://webEbenezer.net
Jeff-Relf.Me <@.>: Dec 28 06:23PM -0800

woodbrian77@gmail.com: Dec 28 04:04PM -0800

On Wednesday, December 28, 2016 at 4:10:05 PM UTC-6, Mr Flibble wrote:
> Please stick to topic which is C++ modulo sausages.
 
Hi, Leigh,
 
I enjoyed your "Read the Bible" post here a month or so ago.
 
But yes, C++ 2017 is looking OK. And if you have been playing
with with Java, D, Go, Rust, C#, etc. for a few years, C++ is
likely better than how you remember it.
 
 
Brian
Ebenezer Enterprises
http://webEbenezer.net
woodbrian77@gmail.com: Dec 28 03:46PM -0800

On Wednesday, December 28, 2016 at 5:24:51 PM UTC-6, Marcel Mueller wrote:
> code.
> If on a certain platform it is better to go this way then it should be
> up to the optimizer to generate the required code.
 
I agree and would describe the line of code as clever.
I think in one of Chandler Carruth's talks he said that
he doesn't want clever code.
 
 
Brian
Ebenezer Enterprises - In G-d we trust.
http://webEbenezer.net
 
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