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| "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com>: Mar 07 07:04AM -0800 A warning to all Christians: To stand up for Christ in this world means you will be hated by everyone who is not being saved. They will literally hate you. They will want you harmed. They will want you killed, because the things of Christ you hold to and testify about, they testify against them. As you shine the light of truth into the darkness, those walking in darkness will seek to destroy that light in any way necessary. They will attempt to make it go away, and when that doesn't work, they'll run off to another dark place so they can continue on in their sinful deeds without the constant reminder that there is a Holy God who will judge all sin, including the sin in their life. When you stand up for God in this world, when you profess the name of Jesus Christ as the only way to have one's sins be forgiven ... prepare to be attacked from every side. It is the natural way of things because those who are perishing know the truth, and they do not want the truth, but rather they want to walk in falseness. They try to suppress the truth any way they can. -- Rick C. Hodgin PS -- To all walking in darkness today: There is no shame. Jesus knows who you are, what you've done, why you did it, and He loves you anyway. He will forgive you for your sin today, right now. Just ask Him: "Jesus, I am a sinner. I have sinned. Please forgive my sin and give me eternal life." If you do that with sincerity, your entire life will change, beginning even today. |
| leigh.v.johnston@googlemail.com: Mar 07 09:50AM -0800 What utter nonsense. Most atheists (myself included) would love for there to be an afterlife but they choose to accept reality. It is you who refuses to accept reality pretending instead that there is a happy ending rather than the inevitable nothingness. |
| "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com>: Mar 07 10:10AM -0800 > What utter nonsense. Most atheists (myself included) would love for there to be an afterlife but they choose to accept reality. It is you who refuses to accept reality pretending instead that there is a happy ending rather than the inevitable nothingness. I used to think as you do. It changed when I set aside my assumptions about what exists and what doesn't exist, and began studying the Bible asking myself on the inside of my own mind, "Is this real? What does it teach? How do I know that it is NOT real?" When I sought the truth, God changed me, opened up my understanding, and took me completely by surprise. I did not think such a change was even possible, just as you don't think so today. It's there before you, Leigh. BTW, my atheism is on record. In 2004 I ran for U.S. House of Representatives in my home district in Indiana. I was interviewed by many people and they asked me my religious affiliation, and I reported "atheist" at that time, as most of the interviews took place when my candidacy was announced, and I did not come to Christ until almost August, 2004, and most interviews were in April-June. ----- It's new life, Leigh. It's spirit. It is not flesh. It is something that people are unable to know or understand without God giving them the augment. It's like trying to see when you only know your other senses, but do not have functioning eyes. Until you have eyes, you'll never know what those around you have known all along. But when you have eyes, it's second nature. The same is true with the spirit. I teach you all of this because I want you to be saved. Jesus came to save the lost. It's what He wants. He came to save the lost because He loves them and doesn't want them to be judged. But all who reject His free offer of salvation, of truth, of love, of compassion, or gifting ... they will, by their own choices, send their own souls to Hell through their rebellion. Think on these things, Leigh. If the rapture happens and you are not yet a believer, there is still hope for you. Do not listen to any lies about why the Christians are suddenly gone from this world. The rapture is fore- told in the Bible, and when we leave the endmost times will begin, and they are awful. But, people can still be saved during this time. https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=1+Corinthians+15%3A51-58&version=KJV 51 Behold, I shew you a mystery; We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed, 52 In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed. 53 For this corruptible must put on incorruption, and this mortal must put on immortality. 54 So when this corruptible shall have put on incorruption, and this mortal shall have put on immortality, then shall be brought to pass the saying that is written, Death is swallowed up in victory. 55 O death, where is thy sting? O grave, where is thy victory? 56 The sting of death is sin; and the strength of sin is the law. 57 But thanks be to God, which giveth us the victory through our Lord Jesus Christ. 58 Therefore, my beloved brethren, be ye stedfast, unmoveable, always abounding in the work of the Lord, forasmuch as ye know that your labour is not in vain in the Lord. There is truth, wisdom, knowledge in the Bible. It is spirit, and it requires the spirit nature to receive, but it is complete... everything we need to be saved and maintain our walk on the narrow path here in this world. But do not be deceived, the enemy is powerfully deceptive. Even devout Christians fall because of his traps and snares. But, those who desire truly from within to be with the Lord ... He Himself comes and rescues us from our folly, just as a good father would do for his children. We are God's children, Leigh. He comes for us. He came to save us by His own Son. Think on these things and lend them an ear. They are unto your salvation. -- Rick C. Hodgin PS -- I am serious. |
| Mr Flibble <flibbleREMOVETHISBIT@i42.co.uk>: Mar 07 06:18PM On 07/03/2018 18:10, Rick C. Hodgin wrote: > most of the interviews took place when my candidacy was announced, and I did > not come to Christ until almost August, 2004, and most interviews were in > April-June. Ah that makes sense and explains everything. You thought you couldn't get elected as an atheist in God's backyard so you "found" Christ in the hope of winning an election so you could get on the gravy train. You are a pathetic lying weasel of a man aren't you? You would have made a great politician as those are desirable qualities in a politician. Obviously you have to keep up the pretence of being a believer otherwise everyone would know your actual motives. You are transparent. /Flibble |
| "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com>: Mar 07 10:32AM -0800 On Wednesday, March 7, 2018 at 1:18:30 PM UTC-5, Mr Flibble wrote: > Ah that makes sense and explains everything. You thought you couldn't > get elected as an atheist in God's backyard so you "found" Christ in the > hope of winning an election so you could get on the gravy train. I have not run for office since that time. In addition, I was completely unprepared for the change which took place. When I began reading the Bible seeking to understand correctly what it taught, it was for the purposes of dismantling it. I expected to find flaws in logic, inconsistencies, things that indicated so very clearly that it was a work of fiction, of contrivance, of man. But I found it wasn't. I found that God opened up my spiritual understanding and taught me the truth about who He is, who I am, what sin is, why I need to be forgiven, and I was saved. It's the truth. > great politician as those are desirable qualities in a politician. > Obviously you have to keep up the pretence of being a believer otherwise > everyone would know your actual motives. You are transparent. I am not a liar. I teach people the honest truth which align with my experience, warts and all: https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.os.development/fij2_tFEhPQ/y8uGjOqUBgAJ https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.os.development/fj6zHukmW4A/Yn-VM2AGBQAJ I am not hiding behind God. I am a sinner. I am guilty. I need forgiveness. Much of my sin is of the kind people wouldn't think twice about, even in that thread above regarding adultery. But, for a Christian it's unheard of ... right? All I can tell you is the new spirit nature is real, but the spirit attacks of the enemy (Satan) are just as real, and unless you are truly focused on the Lord and not on your flesh, focused on the word and not on the world, focused on serving Christ rightly as by His own prescription, and not in serving Him how you think you might want to do so... It requires a real focus, a real effort, and God gives us space and time to work out our salvation. It is much the same way teenagers often go off half-cocked thinking they know everything, only to have life smack them to the ground a few times, but eventually they wise up and begin to stop making the same mistakes they did before. With Christians they are spiritual mistakes, but they are the same. We have the pattern of the natural growth cycle to see also how it works spiritually, though it is different being spiritual and not natural. The spiritual influences affect our flesh, and our flesh influences affect our spirit. They are polar opposites, constantly at war with one another, and we (Christians) have to learn how to follow the spirit voluntarily, and not our flesh. In so doing, we often fall down hard, make mistakes, get some scars that last for life. It's why we point to Christ, not to us. You can hear this information from many preachers, Leigh. ----- You like to make jokes and summarize what you think is happening, rather than scrutinizing the details. If you persist in that way, it will destroy your soul. But if you take the time to examine the details your error will be replaced with knowledge, and that knowledge will lead you to wisdom, which leads you to Christ to ask forgiveness for your sin. The choice is yours. God will be glorified in either way, Leigh. Either in your salvation (which I personally hope is the end), or in your soul's destruction in Hell in your rebellion. The choice is yours. -- Rick C. Hodgin |
| Mr Flibble <flibbleREMOVETHISBIT@i42.co.uk>: Mar 07 06:36PM On 07/03/2018 18:32, Rick C. Hodgin wrote: [snip;tldr] > The choice is yours. God will be glorified in either way, Leigh. > Either in your salvation (which I personally hope is the end), or > in your soul's destruction in Hell in your rebellion. There are no such things as souls mate. > The choice is yours. I choose reality. /Flibble |
| Ian Collins <ian-news@hotmail.com>: Mar 08 07:43AM +1300 On 03/08/2018 04:04 AM, Rick C. Hodgin wrote: [Nonsense] So you start yet another thread while ignoring all of the requests to present evidence on your previous thread. That is so typical of your kind, you can't sustain a debate, so you spout yet more baseless assertions. -- Ian |
| "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com>: Mar 07 10:49AM -0800 On Wednesday, March 7, 2018 at 1:43:15 PM UTC-5, Ian Collins wrote: > So you start yet another thread while ignoring all of the requests to > present evidence on your previous thread. That is so typical of your > kind, you can't sustain a debate, so you spout yet more baseless assertions. I don't debate. I teach. These things I write about you do not know. I try in a myriad of ways to convey the concepts. If one soul is saved it's all worth it. And even if none are saved, the devotion to God is as it should be. Jesus told Peter He would make him a fisher of men. As with fishing, you cast out and you never know what you'll haul in. God alone gives the increase. Ian ... these things I teach you about sin and salvation through Jesus Christ are true. Consider them. -- Rick C. Hodgin |
| "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com>: Mar 07 10:54AM -0800 On Wednesday, March 7, 2018 at 1:36:49 PM UTC-5, Mr Flibble wrote: > On 07/03/2018 18:32, Rick C. Hodgin wrote: > [snip;tldr] It's ironic because I wrote this: You like to make jokes and summarize what you think is happening, rather than scrutinizing the details. If you persist in that way, it will destroy your soul. But if you take the time to examine the details your error will be replaced with knowledge, and that knowledge will lead you to wisdom, which leads you to Christ to ask forgiveness for your sin. > There are no such things as souls mate. > > The choice is yours. > I choose reality. A warning: Old Testament: https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Proverbs+3%3A7-8&version=KJV 7 Be not wise in thine own eyes: fear the Lord, and depart from evil. 8 It shall be health to thy navel, and marrow to thy bones. New Testament: https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Romans+1%3A20-22&version=KJV 20 For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse: 21 Because that, when they knew God, they glorified him not as God, neither were thankful; but became vain in their imaginations, and ===> their foolish heart was darkened. 22 Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools, And more: https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=1+Corinthians+8%3A2-3&version=KJV 2 And if any man think that he knoweth any thing, he knoweth nothing yet as he ought to know. 3 But if any man love God, the same is known of him. Take time to read these things, Leigh. The devil is not in the details. The truth is in the details. The devil is in glossing over the details with a rebellious "tl;dr" attitude. -- Rick C. Hodgin |
| Ian Collins <ian-news@hotmail.com>: Mar 08 07:57AM +1300 On 03/08/2018 07:49 AM, Rick C. Hodgin wrote: >> present evidence on your previous thread. That is so typical of your >> kind, you can't sustain a debate, so you spout yet more baseless assertions. > I don't debate. I teach. You Don't listen to reason. if your position was strong, you would be able to debate. You will never convince a rational mind with baseless assertions. You prattle on about ages of man while ignoring the most important: the age of enlightenment where (western) science grew the balls to defy the religious dogma that had enslaved man for a millennium. -- Ian. |
| Mr Flibble <flibbleREMOVETHISBIT@i42.co.uk>: Mar 07 07:09PM On 07/03/2018 18:54, Rick C. Hodgin wrote: > Take time to read these things, Leigh. The devil is not in the details. > The truth is in the details. The devil is in glossing over the details > with a rebellious "tl;dr" attitude. Why would I want to read the Bible? As I am a settled atheist the only reason I would have to read the Bible would be to enjoy the prose however the Bible is not a very good read as far as books of fiction go which is probably a result of the fact that it had lots of different mostly bad authors. And just because I don't want to read the Bible now does not mean that I haven't read enough parts of it in the past to get the gist. And no reading the Bible would have no effect whatsoever on what I believe nor would it change me from being an atheist. And no I don't want to hear for the 50th fucking time that you used to be a atheist but found Christ. You made a mistake; I have not. /Flibble |
| "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com>: Mar 07 11:11AM -0800 On Wednesday, March 7, 2018 at 1:57:41 PM UTC-5, Ian Collins wrote: > You Don't listen to reason. if your position was strong, you would be > able to debate. You will never convince a rational mind with baseless > assertions. My position is founded in something new, Ian. It's in spirit, not flesh. How do you debate color with a blind person? How do you teach them the differences between red and blue and green? How do you teach them how this color and that color complement each other? One would argue you could do it through math and the study of light equations. It's possible for a blind person to learn those things and recitate them on demand. But they won't understand sight. They won't understand what our eyes can show us. It's the same with things of the Bible versus knowledge of this world. > You prattle on about ages of man while ignoring the most important: the > age of enlightenment where (western) science grew the balls to defy the > religious dogma that had enslaved man for a millennium. What you speak about "defying religious dogma" was, in some ways very necessary, because Christianity is not about religion. But the truth of that uprisal is not in replacing God with something man has come into as by "new knowledge," but all new knowledge would augment God and His creation. What you are talking about is a new form of the same rebellion that has been at work in man since the beginning, all stemming back to and from sin. ----- My base is not only strong, but it's the only immovable base that exists. It is the true foundation, for it is built upon Christ. What I try and teach you though is the path to come to that knowledge and understanding, that you too might be saved. It's a different task than debating things relating to Christ as I might do with another Christian, and even then it isn't debating, it's full-on truth-seeking. -- Rick C. Hodgin |
| "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com>: Mar 07 11:29AM -0800 On Wednesday, March 7, 2018 at 2:09:33 PM UTC-5, Mr Flibble wrote: > Why would I want to read the Bible? As I am a settled atheist I was too. But, I did not know for sure if I was right. I was assuming I was right because I believed many (most?) of the things you do with regards to God not existing, there being no such thing as a soul, no spirit or spirits (except alcohol spirits), etc. My testimony is that I was wrong. And I teach you that if you investigate the Bible seeking the truth then you too will discover the change that I went through. It wasn't reason. It wasn't, "Oh yes, I see here in chapter 4 how that augments what it said in chapter 3. I understand now." It was something different. It was, "Woah. Wait. What's happening to me. I don't... I can't... Oh my. No way." It was utter amazement as I was being born of the spirit, Leigh. It's probably something very similar that happens to a baby that's been in the womb its whole life and then ... pow! ... out he/she comes. Something totally unexpected, unknown previously, a new existence, a new emergence. With the spirit nature it's a completely new thing that you're just then aware of and it's phenomenally unbelievable. I literally walked around in total amazement for weeks. I'm still amazed to this day 13.5+ years later. > however the Bible is not a very good read as far as books of fiction go > which is probably a result of the fact that it had lots of different > mostly bad authors. The thing about it is ... it's not fiction. If you seek out the truth, God Himself will reveal that to you. > And just because I don't want to read the Bible now does not mean that I > haven't read enough parts of it in the past to get the gist. That's where I was. I had actually paid attention in many youth group and Sunday School classes. I knew a lot about the Bible, but I didn't know everything. Still don't, and I've studied it extensively for a long time now. But, back then I wasn't 100% sure that what I thought I knew was what it really taught, and even if it was what it really taught, I wasn't 100% sure that my understanding of what it was teaching was what I thought it was. So, I set my sights on getting a true and proper understanding so I could totally dismantle its lies and hypocrisy bit by little bit. In fact, I had resolved within my mind that I wouldn't need to systematically destroy it, but just find a handful of provable things wrong with it and then I'd be content to stand in my assertion that the Bible is man made, not of God, there is no God, Jesus may or may not have lived but regardless, He was no thing that I needed, etc. Had I found those few flaws I would've gone on about my life as I was before, but even more resolute. But in seeking the truth something else happened. I was changed. I was drawn spiritually to the truth, where I then (days later) asked forgiveness for my sin and was saved, born again of the spirit. For weeks there was this thing upon me like a force field, surrounding me like the environmental suits on Star Trek The Animated Series. It was thick and I could "feel" it, and it was unreal what was happening to me. It was not a flesh thing. It was spirit, and I was floored. > believe nor would it change me from being an atheist. And no I don't > want to hear for the 50th fucking time that you used to be a atheist but > found Christ. You made a mistake; I have not. Jesus teaches that His words (the Bible writings) are spirit, and they are life. They are not like other words written by man. Since they are His words, they convey more than the knowledge our flesh would receive. They are tied inexplicably into the spirit nature, and they move a person in ways other words do not... but only for those who are being saved. For the person being saved, they will never come to the knowledge of God, but will persist as you indicate today, in certainty of you being correct. That certainty will persist until the day of your death where you fall asleep, only to awaken later being summoned by name to God's court to find out how wrong you are: https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=John+5%3A26-29&version=KJV 26 For as the Father hath life in himself; so hath he given to the Son to have life in himself; 27 And hath given him authority to execute judgment also, because he is the Son of man. 28 Marvel not at this: for the hour is coming, in the which all that are in the graves shall hear his voice, ==> 29 And shall come forth; they that have done good, unto the resurrection of life; and they that have done evil, unto the resurrection of damnation. It is appointed unto man once to die, and after this the judgment: https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Hebrews+9%3A27-28&version=KJV 27 And as it is appointed unto men once to die, but after this the judgment: 28 So Christ was once offered to bear the sins of many; and unto them that look for him shall he appear the second time without sin unto salvation. I teach you the truth. But I point you to Christ Himself, to the Bible, to that which I also seek from, for you to examine for yourself if these things I claim are true. I ask you NOT to look to me or take my word for it as anything other than a heralder, a pointer to Him, a voice saying, "go and seek from Jesus Himself." But go directly to the source and see for yourself; for if I am right, and there is a soul, and there is an enemy deceiving you into believing otherwise, then it would be to your best end to examine this information for yourself. All I ask is for you to seek the truth ... with passion. Do not hide behind assumptions and previously held beliefs. Try things out. Test them. Put them under the light of scrutiny and bear them out. If you do then you will know the truth, and the truth will make you free. -- Rick C. Hodgin |
| Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com>: Mar 07 12:35PM -0600 "Clang is now used to build Chrome for Windows" http://blog.llvm.org/2018/03/clang-is-now-used-to-build-chrome-for.html "Clang is the first-ever open-source C++ compiler that's ABI-compatible with Microsoft Visual C++ (MSVC) – meaning you can build some parts of your program (for example, system libraries) with the MSVC compiler ("cl.exe"), other parts with Clang, and when linked together (either by MSVC's linker, "link.exe", or LLD, the LLVM project's linker – see below) the parts will form a working program." Hey, neat ! I need to check Clang on their Fortran 77 compiler status. I want to slowly transition our F77 code to C++ in Visual Studio and this might fit the bill. Hat tip to: http://www.osnews.com/story/30220/Clang_is_now_used_to_build_Chrome_for_Windows Lynn |
| Kan <fcantoro-nospam@taiprora-nospam.it>: Mar 06 01:01PM +0100 Il 06/03/2018 12:59, Kan ha scritto: > } > } > } Ops, it should be: bool exit_loop = false; for (int i = 0; i < m && !exit_loop; i++) { for (int j = 0; j < n && !exit_loop; j++) { if (some condition) { // Do something and break... exit_loop = true; // Breaks out of both loops } } } |
| Stuart Redmann <DerTopper@web.de>: Mar 07 09:40AM +0100 Richard <legalize+jeeves@mail.xmission.com> wrote: [snip] > original long function becomes a "sergeant" function: it doesn't do > the work directly, it delegates the work out to private methods that > do the work. Pun intended? I had to laugh heartily, it just made my day :-) Regards, Stuart |
| Stuart Redmann <DerTopper@web.de>: Mar 07 02:51PM +0100 Öö Tiib <ootiib@hot.ee> wrote: [snip] > was raised as issue itself in review. I remember couple cases where > while loop together with continue was used as goto and received > "better use goto" in review. I generally advise the opposite: if there is no better way of getting rid of a GOTO then replace it by a while loop and use break or continue. I consider this better readable because if you see a "break" or "continue" you know that you have to go downwards or upwards, respectively. Whereas if you see a GOTO you don't know whether to go upwards or downwards or even start searching the next outer scope if there is one. Regards, Stuart |
| woodbrian77@gmail.com: Mar 07 06:45AM -0800 On Wednesday, March 7, 2018 at 7:51:41 AM UTC-6, Stuart Redmann wrote: > you know that you have to go downwards or upwards, respectively. Whereas if > you see a GOTO you don't know whether to go upwards or downwards or even > start searching the next outer scope if there is one. I don't use goto in either my open source or generated code right now, but if I did it would have to refer to something downwards rather than upwards. The use of goto to break out of nested loops seems OK to me. Brian Ebenezer Enterprises - Enjoying programmings again. http://webEbenezer.net |
| "Öö Tiib" <ootiib@hot.ee>: Mar 07 07:58AM -0800 On Wednesday, 7 March 2018 15:51:41 UTC+2, Stuart Redmann wrote: > you know that you have to go downwards or upwards, respectively. Whereas if > you see a GOTO you don't know whether to go upwards or downwards or even > start searching the next outer scope if there is one. Note that with do-while(false) both continue and break do same thing. If the goto label was named like "gfhjlkgj" then "break" or "continue" would indeed convey the logic better ... but experienced programmers rarely use so bad naming. |
| legalize+jeeves@mail.xmission.com (Richard): Mar 07 05:37PM [Please do not mail me a copy of your followup] Jorgen Grahn <grahn+nntp@snipabacken.se> spake the secret code >That is probably where this thread started: people feel it's so ugly >that they'd rather use goto. In my experience, there's always a >third, better option (like a return). ...which ends up being more natural when you use smaller functions. Deeply nested (here "deep" means > 2) control structures are hard to reason about. Extracting the insides into functions with intention revealing names generally leaves you with code that is easier to understand and reason about and as a side benefit you get simpler control and data flow. -- "The Direct3D Graphics Pipeline" free book <http://tinyurl.com/d3d-pipeline> The Terminals Wiki <http://terminals-wiki.org> The Computer Graphics Museum <http://computergraphicsmuseum.org> Legalize Adulthood! (my blog) <http://legalizeadulthood.wordpress.com> |
| legalize+jeeves@mail.xmission.com (Richard): Mar 07 05:37PM [Please do not mail me a copy of your followup] Stuart Redmann <DerTopper@web.de> spake the secret code >> the work directly, it delegates the work out to private methods that >> do the work. >Pun intended? I had to laugh heartily, it just made my day :-) I'm not the coiner of the term, but I believe the pun is intended and that's why they chose the name "sergeant method". -- "The Direct3D Graphics Pipeline" free book <http://tinyurl.com/d3d-pipeline> The Terminals Wiki <http://terminals-wiki.org> The Computer Graphics Museum <http://computergraphicsmuseum.org> Legalize Adulthood! (my blog) <http://legalizeadulthood.wordpress.com> |
| JiiPee <no@notvalid.com>: Mar 07 06:05PM > The use of > goto to break out of nested loops seems OK to me. Thats what I am first time testing now in my code. I think breaking from 3 loops. |
| JiiPee <no@notvalid.com>: Mar 07 06:06PM On 07/03/2018 15:58, Öö Tiib wrote: > If the goto label was named like "gfhjlkgj" then "break" or > "continue" would indeed convey the logic better ... but > experienced programmers rarely use so bad naming. Good point. So naming like "end_of_all_loops" would surely indicate that we go down, right? |
| David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no>: Mar 06 10:17AM +0100 On 05/03/18 21:30, Rick C. Hodgin wrote: >> on Earth; abiogenesis is not traditionally view as part of evolution and >> has separate theories that attempt to explain it. > How do you conclude this? I've never heard someone say this before. That's because you never listen to anyone who makes sense. > But even so, it goes from nothing (pre-Big Bang) to Big Bang to cooling and > coalescing and the formation of molecules, to aggregation of molecules into > macro molecules, to ... elephants, palm trees, and tuna. You are attributing purpose to something that has no purpose or guide. The universe did not progress from the Big Bang to elephants. It is a continuously changing system (I'd use the word "evolving", but it would be in a very different sense than biological evolution, and would just confuse you). At this particular sample point in time - a few million year sample out of some 13.4 billion years so far, and a great many more years in the future - and at this particular sample point in space, there happen to be elephants. But thinking of elephants in the context of the big bang and the universe is like finding an interesting leaf-shaped cornflake in your breakfast, and concluding that the entire food industry was build to give you that one cornflake. You are so firmly in the mindset of thinking everything was designed for humans, that you miss the point entirely. It is apparent in much of what you write, and your massive misunderstandings about evolution. (Why can't E.Coli evolve into a dog? For much the same reason that you can't be father to your same-aged cousins. E.Coli are modern lifeforms, just like dogs, and they have both evolved in the approximately 2 billion years since they shared a common ancestor.) Oh, and the Big Bang theory does not have a "pre-Big Bang" or have any idea what started it. There are many other theories that /do/ try to figure out what was before the Big Bang, or to replace or modify the Big Bang theory, but none as yet have much evidence or grounding. As has been said, "Science doesn't know everything. If it did, we'd stop doing it". |
| "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com>: Mar 07 06:48AM -0800 The Bible is the authority on things in this world. It was given to man by God through His own Holy Spirit, an invisible spirit that comes to men and guides them per God's guidance. When men sat down to write the Bible, it wasn't men writing their own original thoughts. It was God guiding them from within on what to write. The Bible is inspired of God, and contains the necessary knowledge God has given mankind to come to repentance and ask forgiveness for their sin. There have been five distinct ages of man: 1) Garden of Eden before sin. Perfection, and flesh-based eternal life. 2) The time post-sin before the flood of Noah. 3) The time before the Law was given to Moses. 4) The time after the Law was given to Moses, and before Jesus was born. 5) The time since Jesus was born, which is the age we live in now. God is restoring us to sinless perfection. He does this by sending us His own Son to take away our sin. Jesus takes away our sin by being born as one of us, under our laws, yet having no sin of His own (born of a virgin, therefore not carrying Adam's original sin), living a sin-free life, and being condemned by man as guilty, yet innocent before God, He was able to take all of the sin for all who would believe in Him, past, present, and future, and transfer that sin onto Himself at the cross, and then die once and for all with that sin. When Jesus did this the Earth shook. Things changed. Time was divided. And after He was buried, and fifty days after His resurrection, He gave man His own Holy Spirit, to guide everyone who is born again from within. For believers: God's with us each day as we go. He's there in spirit guiding us from within. He communes with our own spirit. We are aware of things our flesh cannot be aware of. We know things our flesh cannot know. We can discern falseness and truth spiritually, even when our flesh can be deceived. ----- Each of you has sin. Each of you is already condemned to Hell because of that sin (John 3:18). But each of you can be forgiven by acknowledging your sin, and asking Jesus to forgive you. Your life has value. You are an important creation to God. He hasn't judged the whole Earth yet despite all its wickedness because He's still waiting for the last of those who will come to Him and ask forgivevness to do so. You can be one of them. Ask Jesus to forgive your sin, and gain eternal life. Ditch the corrupt and foul ways of the world, and embrace God's teaching toward truth and righteousness. He will lead you in this world, and promises a future where >99% of what we know today passes away because of its corrupt nature. Heaven will not be like Earth. Heaven will be literal heaven. -- Rick C. Hodgin |
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