Tuesday, May 28, 2019

Digest for comp.lang.c++@googlegroups.com - 25 updates in 1 topic

"Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com>: May 27 04:27PM -0700

"The passages, which come from the Book of Leviticus, show the first
physical evidence of a long-held belief that the Hebrew Bible that's
in use today is more than 2,000 years old."
 
https://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/gadgets-and-tech/news/scientists-finally-read-the-oldest-biblical-text-ever-found-a7323296.html
 
God is revealing Himself for all who will be believe and be saved.
 
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Rick C. Hodgin
Mr Flibble <flibbleREMOVETHISBIT@i42.co.uk>: May 28 12:52AM +0100

On 28/05/2019 00:27, Rick C. Hodgin wrote:
> in use today is more than 2,000 years old."
 
> https://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/gadgets-and-tech/news/scientists-finally-read-the-oldest-biblical-text-ever-found-a7323296.html
 
> God is revealing Himself for all who will be believe and be saved.
 
Whilst interesting from an archaeological standpoint (and archaeology is a
science BTW) this is not "God revealing himself", it simply confirms what
we already knew: that Judaism pre-dates Christianity. 2000 year old
bigoted religious nutters writing things down are still 2000 year old
bigoted religious nutters.
 
Your god is a lie as evolution is a fact. And Satan invented fossils, yes?
 
/Flibble
 
--
"You won't burn in hell. But be nice anyway." – Ricky Gervais
 
"I see Atheists are fighting and killing each other again, over who
doesn't believe in any God the most. Oh, no..wait.. that never happens." –
Ricky Gervais
 
"Suppose it's all true, and you walk up to the pearly gates, and are
confronted by God," Bryne asked on his show The Meaning of Life. "What
will Stephen Fry say to him, her, or it?"
"I'd say, bone cancer in children? What's that about?" Fry replied.
"How dare you? How dare you create a world to which there is such misery
that is not our fault. It's not right, it's utterly, utterly evil."
"Why should I respect a capricious, mean-minded, stupid God who creates a
world that is so full of injustice and pain. That's what I would say."
"Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com>: May 28 05:38AM -0700

On Monday, May 27, 2019 at 7:52:25 PM UTC-4, Mr Flibble wrote:
 
> > God is revealing Himself for all who will be believe and be saved.
 
> Whilst interesting from an archaeological standpoint (and archaeology is a
> science BTW) this is not "God revealing himself"
 
The enemy's lies only persist so long as men don't press in and
investigate them. Some times it takes new technology to be able
to understand how God's teaching in the Bible is true compared
to the belief given by the enemy before that technology came into
existence, such as with evolution being thought of BEFORE knowledge
of DNA and its internal operation came about.
 
Craig Venter is an atheist, and he concluded from scientific find-
ings that there is no tree of life, that the variation seen does
indicate a type of intelligent design. He said that the beliefs
regarding evolution were throw-backs to a time before we had the
new scientific data, and they aren't holding up under scrutiny:
 
Dr. Craig Venter Denies Common Descent in front of
Richard Dawkins
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MXrYhINutuI
 
Question: "You're not saying there isn't a tree of life are you?"
 
Venter: "Well, I think the tree of life is the result of some
early scientific studies that aren't really holding up."
 
> it simply confirms what
> we already knew: that Judaism pre-dates Christianity...
 
It goes further. There was a great movement by non-Jews and non-
Christians to burn all of the Jewish and Christian literature from
that time period around Christ, the original texts written by the
direct Apostles and disciples of Jesus Christ. As such, today we
mostly only have copies, and there have been some copy errors which
have crept in to the text, where 99%+ of the texts agree with one
another, and 1% states alternate things on issues like the age of
somebody, or the number of things.
 
Here we find an original document that was badly burned. And there
are many more such similar-condition documents that are being in-
vestigated now with this new technology. The truths of God are be-
ing revealed over time through new technology. The closer you press
in and examine God the more you find He is absolutely true, and He
is exactly what He said He is all along. It's only been the enemy
of God who has said He was something else, or that what God said did
happen the enemy teaches didn't happen.
 
It's the first hard evidence that the text used in modern Bibles
is the same as was used at/near the time of Christ.
 
> Your god is a lie as evolution is a fact.
 
Evolution completely falls apart under scrutiny. Science has proved
evolution false, and especially so when you investigate DNA and its
inner workings.
 
Here's what happens inside a cell, all driven by DNA creating protein
structures which self-assemble into machines, which conduct this un-
imaginably complex concert of life ... and this takes place in every
cell:
 
Your Body's Molecular Machines
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X_tYrnv_o6A
 
You think that incredibly complex coordinated machine evolved from a
Big Bang and primordial sea goo? That's the fiction, whereas God
creating all life is the truth. One tiny alteration in the DNA, and
those protein structures are no longer created properly ... and the
machine becomes non-viable. Literal single-bit errors cause either
full-on death of the entire organism (as every cell has a copy of
that original fertilized egg complete DNA map, which by the way, is
proof that physical life begins at conception), while other single-
bit errors introduce a host of genetic diseases that severely impact
life. It all depends on where the errors occur in the DNA sequence.
 
You should educate yourself about these things, Leigh. The further
you press in the more you'll realize you've been absolutely lied to
outright your entire life throughout all of your science education.
 
God is returning to this Earth soon. He has a book called the Lamb's
Book of Life, and all who find their names written in that back are
saved from judgment and destruction for their sin ... the rest will
be shown no mercy and will be cast headlong into the lake of fire
from which there will never be any reprieve ever.
 
God is everywhere around us. Pick a direction and start investigat-
ing and you will find God in the details.
 
People have an expression, "The devil is in the details." That's
absolutely false. The devil is in the glossing over of the details,
the "tl;dr" responses which keep you in ignorance and keep the facts
away from your thinking. God is found in the details.
 
Investigate any part of our creation, Leigh, and you will find God's
signature there. Even in the intricately balanced razor's edge con-
stants we find in nature, which balance our universe on the mathe-
matical equivalent of a finely sharpened knife's edge.
 
--
Rick C. Hodgin
"Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com>: May 28 05:52AM -0700

On Monday, May 27, 2019 at 8:03:33 AM UTC-4, Daniel wrote:
> On Monday, May 27, 2019 at 7:06:26 AM UTC-4, Rick C. Hodgin wrote:
> > You do not have much influence, so you are not a high target
 
> You're lucky, then, as you would not be a target at all.
 
My point was Öö Tiib is not a Richard Dawkins, or Carl Sagan, or
some highly influential scientist. Those are the individuals the
most powerful evil spirit seek out to dominate their life, to prop
them up in research grants and funding so they can disseminate the
most lies to the widest audience for the least investment.
 
Those who are not at those levels are deceived by those lies above,
and by direct means through lesser evil spirits.
 
We learn from scripture that God created various types of angels
with varying types of abilities. Lucifer was at the top along with
Michael. Michael kept his place, but Lucifer fell. Other high-
level angels who fell and became demons are those we know on Earth
as the Greek gods, the gods of the Buddhist faith, etc. These are
demons who have taken on the persona of gods, and from a Biblical
perspective they may even be gods as the Bible says there are gods
(plural). However, they are not God Almighty, not THE God who did
create all. They are simply the highest created beings apart from
man, and they have real power and knowledge and their basic bodily
makeup is such that they can do things we can't in our bodies, and
they can know things we can't in our fallen-in-sin state. To us they
would appear to be gods, and they demanded worship as such, which
God had forbid, hence their all now being damned to Hell, for Hell
was not created for man, but for the devil and his angels (Isaiah 5:14-16).
But because of man's arrogance and pomp, Hell has enlarged herself.
 
https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Isaiah+5%3A14-16&version=NIV;KJV
 
14 Therefore hell hath enlarged herself, and opened her mouth
without measure: and their glory, and their multitude, and
their pomp, and he that rejoiceth, shall descend into it.
15 And the mean man shall be brought down, and the mighty man
shall be humbled, and the eyes of the lofty shall be humbled:
16 But the Lord of hosts shall be exalted in judgment, and God
that is holy shall be sanctified in righteousness.
 
> you thought about the possibility that the enemy might be using you to
> discredit christianity? You would agree that most people (including most
> christians) would think that you were nuts?
 
Most Christians do not follow the teachings of God. Even dating
back to periods of time in the past it has been so. There are new
movements arising continually to get people back to the true teach-
ings of God (Father + Son + Holy Spirit) without man's influences.
The Puritans were attempting this when they left for the new world.
They wanted a place to worship the God of the Bible, and not the
god of the state.
 
I know of no one personally who believes as I do, who follows after
Christ as I do believing in faith the things I believe in, save a
small handful of older people (mostly grandmothers), and there are
some younger people who believe likewise.
 
We are all ridiculed, though many of the older grandmothers are so
loving and caring and non-evangelizing that people will accept them
as they are because they are no direct threat to their current think-
ing. People just think they are kind, devout, religious people, and
they more or less tend to keep to themselves, except in church where
they say, "Yes!" and "Amen!" and "That's right!" and "Uh huh!" during
the sermon.
 
Where people stand up and attack Christians are when they stand up
and start teaching people about sin, about judgment, about Hell, and
that they NEED Jesus Christ to forgive their sin otherwise they will
be going there. Or when we start pointing to the things we find in
this world and say God has taught us the truth about that, and we can
see in scripture it says xyz, while the world says abc. We can point
to things which make logical sense, which demonstrate God is not the
monster the enemy of God would claim Him to be.
 
When we start teaching people the truth, and the knowledge of that
truth gets out there into people's ears, into their minds, that's
when the evil spirits begin to lose their grip because their lies
only exist so long as they do not investigate the things those lies
are purporting, because they are lies, and they totally fall apart
under scrutiny.
 
God WANTS US to press in and seek the truth with a FULL THROTTLE ef-
fort. He wants us investigating EVERYTHING He has said. He even
invites us in scripture: "Come, let us reason together..."
 
God is not what people think He is. And Jesus is our true Savior
and need here in this life. Without Him, all of mankind would've
been lost. With Him, everyone who comes to Him will be saved. He
will turn no one away no matter how bad their sin is, or to whom,
or for how long. He will wash it all away by His blood and restore
us to His eternal Kingdom.
 
It is His great joy and happiness to do this for us, to undo the
work of the enemy, to restore us to the plans He had for us before
sin entered in and destroyed everything.
 
--
Rick C. Hodgin
"Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com>: May 28 06:13AM -0700

On Monday, May 27, 2019 at 10:21:04 AM UTC-4, Öö Tiib wrote:
> > him, and seeks continually with great effort to silence or discredit
> > those who seek to stand up for facts and truth which point to God.
 
> Oooh, millions of scientists are "servants of Satan" ...
 
People in general become servants of Satan through sin. When they
acquiesce to the alternate thing the enemy of God is whispering into
their thoughts, into their mind, and they agree to it, they then open
the door to let that evil spirit in. Once there, it begins altering
everything about that person's life.
 
 
> No. If there is anything evil in this world then your "true scientists" are
> serving it. They are making your faith to look backwards, stupid and
> laughable geocentrism-flatearthery.
 
This is what I'm trying to explain to you. Because of sin, and because
of the evil spirit influence in the minds of people who have embraced
sin by choice, their thinking is twisted. It's twisted around so far
that the true things of God are held to be lies, and the lies of the
enemy are held to be the truth.
 
Jesus rescues us from that twisted state and restores us to the truth.
 
Go to local Bible-believing churches in your area and ask to speak to
born again people who used to believe as you do, and ask them how it
was Jesus turned their life around and completely re-wired their think-
ing. You'll be amazed and astounded at the stories. And these are
not just people who, through a sheer power of self-will and determina-
tion, turned their own lives around. These are people who had their
lives turned around for them, and they stood their in awe as miracle
after miracle after miracle transpired in their life to bring them up
out of the depravity they were in.
 
They may not have even been depraved in the traditional state, meaning
they weren't IV drug users, prostitutes, homosexual, but rather they
could've only believed in evolution, or believed multiple gods and the
various faiths all can lead to Heaven, etc. But Jesus is truth, and
His Holy Spirit is truth-teaching-continually, and just like the enemy's
voice in the ears constantly of the sinner, God's own truth-teaching
voice is in the ears constantly of the saved person. That doesn't mean
the saved person will never make mistakes. They make some doozies.
But what it does mean is God comes to rescue them when they do, to pick
them up and lead them back to where they should be once again. This is
part of the refining fire, of sanctification, a kind of "let the five-
year old touch the hot handle on the pan on the stove one time and then
he himself will know not to do it again" rather than constantly warning
that five-year old, "No, Jimmy! You'll burn yourself." Sometimes it
takes us getting hurt before we stop doing the bad thing, and God knows
this and He sometimes lets us get a good bruise or even a scar, so that
we self-govern and self-discipline our own lives moving forward.
 
> (nor anyone elses gods ...) other that I do not believe into their very
> existence. That is something they (the gods) can easily fix if my beliefs
> and/or services are of any importance.
 
Your statement here is literally exactly what my position was before
God saved me. I have a video made in 2008 which states this same
thing as well.
 
God does literally change people completely. He changes them from
the inside out such that they are no longer the people they were
before. They are born again of the spirit (John 3). They are new
lives, for the old life has passed away. Literally.
 
That's why I ask YOU to go to local Bible-believing churches and
speak to people who are not me. Go to each of them and ask to speak
to "born again believers" (be sure to ask for born again believers
because there are a lot of religious people in the church who are
not born again, and they can have the illusion of salvation to an
outsider, but they are not saved ... and Jesus warned about these
people Matthew 7:21-23). But the born again believers will have an
inner peace about them, be often in tears, have a caring and compas-
sion about their fellow man that is like mine, where I spend this
time actively teaching the truth about God so that some precious
few might hear and be saved. They will be new creations who are
not like other people on the Earth because they have a new spirit,
and are hearing God's Holy Spirit by that same spirit input.
 
> it predicts regardless of what faith the observers have. No need for
> copy-paste passages of books, voodoo rituals, magical incantations,
> sacrificed chickens or smokes and mirrors. It just works.
 
The enemy gives them a framework that appears plausible. But it's
a facade, an illusion, a really clever and crafty lie that has the
whole world literally deceived (Revelation 12:9 "The great dragon was
hurled down—that ancient serpent called the devil, or Satan, WHO LEADS
THE WHOLE WORLD ASTRAY. He was hurled to the earth, and his angels
with him").
 
The truth exists in God's teaching. Press in on any aspect of God's
teachings and you'll find it holds up under scrutiny, and the enemy's
lies do not.
 
> during past half century have been wrong and delivered nothing
> good. By their fruit as Jesus wisely suggested. They are wolves in
> sheep's clothing and you are one of them.
 
I have also posted that on September 23, 2015 it would be the rapture.
 
Christians are instructed to look for Biblical signs. We are called
to be "Watchmen" searching the scriptures, looking at the worldly
signs, being ready 24/7/365 with our metaphorical bags packed and our
lamps trimmed and filled with oil, so if the call ring out at midnight
we are ready to go.
 
Many people have believed and reported on the event which never did
transpire. That doesn't mean they are false prophets. It means they
misread the signs, and espoused incorrect things. But if you still
find them teaching you the way of salvation through Christ, that each
person needs to repent of their sin to be saved, they are true Watch-
men and they are serving Christ. But there have been many, and will
continue to be many, who are not saved, who only have religion, who
are still only in the flesh (not born again, no spirit nature), who
are literally being led by Satan and his demon imps. Those are people
to watch out for, because they are just as dangerous to your soul as
are unsaved people.
 
It's good you recognize the difference between true and false teach-
ings, but there is nuance and subtlety beyond black-and-white on these
issues. You have to examine the whole of people's lives. People can
and will make mistakes in single instances, in many of those instances
over their lives once they come to faith. But you must examine the
whole fruit of their life, and see even how they respond to their mis-
takes.
 
> supernatural matters as superstition, fiction and fairy tales. If there
> is anything supernatural then it can contact me directly. No
> dumbasses are needed for medium.
 
God has given us the Bible so we can know Him. You do not and should
not trust me, but I ask you to go to the Bible and INVESTIGATE FOR
YOURSELF, to read and study and see if GOD HIMSELF doesn't make Himself
known to you through that study.
 
If you pursue Him with a truth-seeking, fact-finding, honestly-want-
to-know-the-truth-about-it attitude, you will find it.
 
> transgress against laws of it (to sin). So while I am fallible like everybody
> and have done mistakes during my life I can't have any sins. I know
> nothing of any spirits, neither evil nor good.
 
God gave us the Bible so we can know what sin is. We compare our
actions to His teachings and see where we fall short.
 
That is, in fact, the WHOLE PURPOSE of the Law of Moses and of the
teachings about sin in the Bible. It is to teach us where we fail,
and that we all fail, and that we need God to be saved.
 
Jesus came to this Earth gladly, happily, with fullest joy, to save
all who would be saved, for all who are saved enter eternity and will
be with Him (with God) in eternity in the glories and splendor of
God's own domain -- Heaven.
 
If you seek the truth you will find it.
 
--
Rick C. Hodgin
"Öö Tiib" <ootiib@hot.ee>: May 28 06:16AM -0700

On Tuesday, 28 May 2019 15:38:42 UTC+3, Rick C. Hodgin wrote:
> proof that physical life begins at conception), while other single-
> bit errors introduce a host of genetic diseases that severely impact
> life. It all depends on where the errors occur in the DNA sequence.
 
Why there are millions of sperm in one ejaculation? It is for the hard
way to egg and then for the egg itself to sort out the "unworthy"
ones. Then the fertilised egg has two sets of chromosomes where
defective are disabled and so both sets have to have same defect
at same place for genetic error to manifest. Still that happens,
(especially on case of insest). Then we will usually get miscarriage.
Pregnancy is often canceled during first weeks of it. Sometimes it
takes longer to detect defects. And finally sometimes there will born
freaks. We all see it. No God nor Satan did intervene, just random
recombination result was such that passed all the basic tests
OTW to birth but still had defects in it.

> You should educate yourself about these things, Leigh. The further
> you press in the more you'll realize you've been absolutely lied to
> outright your entire life throughout all of your science education.
 
Science does not lie. Those are the wolves in sheep's clothing like
you who lie. Also, you are unable to learn. You reiterate same stupid
logic errors from post to post.
"Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com>: May 28 06:17AM -0700

On Monday, May 27, 2019 at 1:42:52 PM UTC-4, fir wrote:
> [snip]
 
fir, God loves you too. He will forgive your sin and welcome you
into His eternal Kingdom of Heaven, with all the glories and power
and majesty and amazement that it entails.
 
You are loved, fir. And God wants to give you a permanent home
there, one where you will be safe and secure and never again need
to worry about anything, for He reins with authority.
 
You are loved. Greatly.
 
--
Rick C. Hodgin
"Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com>: May 28 06:35AM -0700

On Tuesday, May 28, 2019 at 9:16:29 AM UTC-4, Öö Tiib wrote:
> Why there are millions of sperm in one ejaculation? It is for the hard
> way to egg and then for the egg itself to sort out the "unworthy"
> ones.
 
That's what science teaches us. How do you know that's the true
reason? How do you know it's not for other reasons? How do you
know God hasn't sent angels to make sure the one God wants to go
forward goes forward and is the one which reaches the egg? That
those angels can see into the DNA supernaturally, and choose the
one that matches what God said it should be in that case?
 
See?
 
We only think in natural terms. We don't allow for God in our
lives or in our thinking. How do we know that the very creation
of a new life in this world isn't directly guided by God, so that
the person is born with the qualities God hand-picked, and hand-
placed into that part of the world knowing what would come after?
 
> Then the fertilised egg has two sets of chromosomes where
> defective are disabled and so both sets have to have same defect
> at same place for genetic error to manifest. Still that happens,
 
That's why in the Bible during Adam and Eve's time, and even up to
the time of Moses, brothers and sisters could marry and have kids.
Genetic defects hadn't been introduced in high enough numbers to
cause issues yet. But when God brought His people out of Egypt,
and gave the Law to Moses, He then commanded that no close relatives
could marry any longer, and for that exact reason.
 
The Bible and God once again proven correct.
 
> freaks. We all see it. No God nor Satan did intervene, just random
> recombination result was such that passed all the basic tests
> OTW to birth but still had defects in it.
 
How do you know there wasn't intervention. What forces are inter-
acting on the journey to the egg?
 
You take a mighty firm position for something you do not truly know,
but only suspect and believe because you've read about other people,
flawed people in sin, teaching you something.
 
This is where investigation must take place. This is where faith in
God enters in. The man/woman of faith cannot say that God is removed
from the things we see. They seek the whole gambit of answers. They
still have many questions about things in this world, but aren't so
arrogant as to say they know for sure it can't be God creating things.
 
It is literally only the enemy of God who says such things, and that
is by purposeful agenda. They are lost. In their rebellion against
God they were cast out (literally) of Heaven. They have no future.
They are condemned to Hell for all eternity. And the only hope they
have to avoid that fate is to taint this world so severely that God
would not are destroy His most precious and remarkable creation of
man, so that if God gives man a pass, He must also give Lucifer and
his angels a pass.
 
It will never happen. God will save all who will be saved, and the
rest will enter into Hell.
 
All who are being saved will be called from within and will know the
call and voice of God guiding them in a way their flesh cannot know.
It will be internal. It will be new. It will be real. And it will
be amazing.
 
All who are born again will report the same thing, thought they will
speak about it in their own way of using words to describe what they
personally went through.
 
Go to local Bible-believing churches and ask them to speak to the
born again believers and listen to their testimony. Do not take my
word for it. Go and see for yourself. Go also to the Bible and
read for yourself. It's the same Bible our ancestors have been
using for hundreds of years up through millennia.
 
 
> Science does not lie. Those are the wolves in sheep's clothing like
> you who lie. Also, you are unable to learn. You reiterate same stupid
> logic errors from post to post.
 
Science does not lie, but there are evil spirits, the enemies of
God, who are teaching men and women world-wide through sin that
the things they see in the lab or in the field are a particular
way, because it takes God out of our lives. It is not the truth,
but is a truth that can be pressed into sinful-man's natural think-
ing, the one without the spirit, without God's Holy Spirit correct-
ing the errors / flaws in the natural thinking.
 
All I can do is teach you the truth. I cannot make you believe, nor
is it my job to do so. That is God's own job (as you have stated,
that He can change your beliefs if it is His will). Seek the truth
and you will be saved, Öö Tiib.
 
--
Rick C. Hodgin
fir <profesor.fir@gmail.com>: May 28 06:39AM -0700

W dniu poniedziałek, 27 maja 2019 16:21:04 UTC+2 użytkownik Öö Tiib napisał:
> ... (medicore talking with idiot)
 
you know youre trolling this group by talking with well know arrogant imbecile troll here ?
 
such talks you should provide on special dedicated group only, something like
 
us.talking.with.idiots.spam
 
but not here..doing that you get a badge of kinda harmfull troll, too.. dik knows everybody knows he is idiot but his answer is as usual he show his big ass to anybody
 
(further dull talking with tis arrogant idiot move to -> us.talking.with.idiots.spam or writting.god.on.fat.ass.and.pointing.it.to.anybody)
"Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com>: May 28 06:52AM -0700

On Tuesday, May 28, 2019 at 9:40:03 AM UTC-4, fir wrote:
> [snip]
 
fir, God will be glorified in either your destruction in Hell, or
in your salvation in Heaven. He greatly prefers your salvation
in Heaven, but has given you the authority to decide your fate for
yourself.
 
Where you wind up will be entirely upon your decisions.
 
Billions of people world-wide believe in something supernatural,
fir. Many of those are Christian. By sheer numbers alone you
should investigate the Bible to see if what so many believe is
true or not.
 
The reason you won't is because the enemy of God working against
you is real, and he has a hold over your thinking to the point
where you won't even investigate to see if God is true. He's
using your own pride and arrogance against your soul.
 
--
Rick C. Hodgin
Daniel <danielaparker@gmail.com>: May 28 07:28AM -0700

On Tuesday, May 28, 2019 at 9:52:26 AM UTC-4, Rick C. Hodgin wrote:
 
> By sheer numbers alone you should investigate the Bible to see if what so
> many believe is true or not.
 
The Bible: Proof of god. Spiderman Comic: Proof of Spiderman!
 
But scholars that study the ancient texts are not that naive, Rick. And,
unlike you, they do not read the ancient texts in isolation.
 
Daniel
"Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com>: May 28 08:21AM -0700

On Tuesday, May 28, 2019 at 10:28:40 AM UTC-4, Daniel wrote:
 
> > By sheer numbers alone you should investigate the Bible to see if what so
> > many believe is true or not.
 
> The Bible: Proof of god.
 
The Bible is given to give us a written declaration of God, but
God proves Himself all around us. What we see in nature, even
in science, all points to God. We can learn from scripture how
He established the things He did, and then we can see in all our
surroundings how the things we see align with what He taught us.
 
> Spiderman Comic: Proof of Spiderman!
 
There is no evidence of Spiderman in the real-world, save in
movies, on T-shirts and lunch boxes, and all of those can be
certifiably proven to be man-made.
 
The things of God exist by God's creation, not man's.
 
> But scholars that study the ancient texts are not that naive, Rick. And,
> unlike you, they do not read the ancient texts in isolation.
 
You mis-characterize the true position, and then make a con-
clusion based on your mis-characterization. This is bound to
yield a result that can be questioned, but the truth is not
like that.
 
The truth is solid, and always yields definitive proof of God,
and of God's existence.
 
It is a common tactic of the enemy to portray something that's
false as though it were truth, and then seek to prove that the
real truth can't be true because the false presentation of the
truth makes the real truth not possible.
 
The truth is always perfect, convincing, unyielding, and defeats
every argument's attempt against it. God is that truth, and you
will not find a fault in Him anywhere. Ever.
 
Only when you look into false presentations of Him will you find
faults, and those faults exist not because they are faults with
God, but because the base premise is faulty and the faults all
lie there.
 
You look at God wrongly, Daniel. Your portray Him as something
He is not, and then discount Him based on those qualities. What
you are, in fact, discounting is falseness. What you are seeking
to uphold is truth. God is that truth you seek to uphold, and
the enemy of God is that falseness you seek to reject.
 
Think about it.
 
--
Rick C. Hodgin
Daniel <danielaparker@gmail.com>: May 28 09:16AM -0700

On Tuesday, May 28, 2019 at 11:21:40 AM UTC-4, Rick C. Hodgin wrote:
 
> What we see in nature, even in science, all points to God.
 
It could also point to Zeus and the greek pantheon, or to Thor and the
lessor Norse deities. You start from the assumption of the ancient Hebrew
god (which itself evolved from the more ancient chief deity of the Canaanite
pantheon) and the "enemy", and for you all follows from that. But while most
of us understand that there are mysteries, we see the ancient texts as
traditions, and not as explanations. And we don't need the notion of the
"enemy" to, as Mr Flibble flibbantly remarks, "invent fossils" or other observable things that contradict the ancient narratives.
 
Best regards,
Daniel
"Öö Tiib" <ootiib@hot.ee>: May 28 10:35AM -0700

On Tuesday, 28 May 2019 16:35:24 UTC+3, Rick C. Hodgin wrote:
> forward goes forward and is the one which reaches the egg? That
> those angels can see into the DNA supernaturally, and choose the
> one that matches what God said it should be in that case?
 
Because I asked why to produce millions of sperm and waste vital
food into those? If there will be angel involved then one is plenty
and angel can correct its defects and add improvements if any
needed. So your "alternative" is nonsense.
 
> See?
 
I see you can't read the questions nor answer those like usual.
 
> of a new life in this world isn't directly guided by God, so that
> the person is born with the qualities God hand-picked, and hand-
> placed into that part of the world knowing what would come after?
 
Because we can now read genetic code and even prove parenthood
from it. It is half of genes from mother, half of genes from father and
has about 100 point (one base-pair) mutations (from total 3 billions
of base pairs). There are tons of experiments made about it. Just
mostly not with humans but other animals plants and insects.
Read up, "teacher".
 
> and gave the Law to Moses, He then commanded that no close relatives
> could marry any longer, and for that exact reason.
 
> The Bible and God once again proven correct.
 
Nonsense. 5000 years is about 200 generations. That is 20 000 base
pairs mutated from 3 billions if mutation rate was same as today.
That is 0.00067% of genome. Also miscarriage and other fertility
issues and freaks born to people and animals were in all written
literature (and even in your Bible) always as common as today.
Deaths in early childhood were even lot more common than today.
We can now compensate the genetic defects with medical aid.
Also we do have capability to read DNA from quite old bones. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ancient_DNA Nothing indicates that
there was "perfect" set of it ever.

> > OTW to birth but still had defects in it.
 
> How do you know there wasn't intervention. What forces are inter-
> acting on the journey to the egg?
 
Because if angels do it then there are none need for millions of sperm.
How can one be that dense? I asked it and you did not answer.
 
> You take a mighty firm position for something you do not truly know,
> but only suspect and believe because you've read about other people,
> flawed people in sin, teaching you something.
 
I take position that is reasonable. Your alternative (that angels breed)
is clearly nonsense.
 
> from the things we see. They seek the whole gambit of answers. They
> still have many questions about things in this world, but aren't so
> arrogant as to say they know for sure it can't be God creating things.
 
No this is where brain has to be applied to the piles of data that we have.
Not in a way that you assume your conclusion but in a way that you need
to have actual plausible alternative explanation.
 
I will just erase rest of your wall of shit. TL;DR you go back and answer
oh only to the first sentence of mine with anything but confused babble:
"Why there are millions of sperm in one ejaculation?"
"Öö Tiib" <ootiib@hot.ee>: May 28 10:36AM -0700

On Tuesday, 28 May 2019 16:14:08 UTC+3, Rick C. Hodgin wrote:
> > > him, and seeks continually with great effort to silence or discredit
> > > those who seek to stand up for facts and truth which point to God.
 
> > Oooh, millions of scientists are "servants of Satan" ...
 
You failed to answer so I snip it. Read again and answer to what I
wrote.
 
How can a non-Christian transgress against divine laws of Christianity?
Non-Christian can't like sparrow, dolphin, bear or elephant can't.
 
Also none of the actual Christians follows the 613 commandments in
Bible. So they all sin and have to constantly ask forgiveness from Jesus.
How laughably disingenuous a concept can get?
 
If I would ever see slightest chance that Judeo-Christian God might
be real entity (not product of Semitic fairy-tales) then I would therefore
join Jews and not Christians. It is because I *don't* *want* *to* *sin*
ever if divine laws actually exist. But the chance is slim ... the 613
commandments are weird to edge and also no real omnipotent being
would let itself to be promoted by such bad people.
 
> sin by choice, their thinking is twisted. It's twisted around so far
> that the true things of God are held to be lies, and the lies of the
> enemy are held to be the truth.
 
Weekly Top Five. Those are your dental doctors who post on your
answeringenesis that promote geocentrism-flatearthery. Not the
"Enemy" nor the "high scientists" (actually all scientists) who by
your words serve it.
 
Pointless propaganda of churches that did not again address what
I wrote snipped. None of supernatural beings (if such exist) need
churches for anything also none of your scripture indicates need for
churches.
 
 
> Your statement here is literally exactly what my position was before
> God saved me. I have a video made in 2008 which states this same
> thing as well.
 
So somehow some of demons did actually contact you and made you to
discredit Christianity so devotedly? Congratulations. I'm jealous, I've
never met any. Im quite certain that such don't exist.
 
Again propaganda of churches snipped. Omnipotent beings don't need
churches nor priests for contacting me if needed. No one needs. I
am all here.
 
> hurled down—that ancient serpent called the devil, or Satan, WHO LEADS
> THE WHOLE WORLD ASTRAY. He was hurled to the earth, and his angels
> with him").
 
Nonsense. To make all the world work like clockwork by rules discovered
by science always and everywhere would take Vigintillion (120 decimal
zeroes) highly punctual demons to upkeep "the illusion". Pointless waste
of evil beings and unlikely that any gods have organized it like that.
 
> The truth exists in God's teaching. Press in on any aspect of God's
> teachings and you'll find it holds up under scrutiny, and the enemy's
> lies do not.
 
Your God has indeed taught me lot of things, like the easy way how to
figure the wolves from sheep. I consider Bible over average good book
despite I don't believe it. Kind of like Lord of the Rings, Historia Regum
Britanniae and the Adventures of Robin Hood about Semites merged
into one book. I suspect that Jesus (if such a man ever existed) was
just a bright rabbi and (at least part of) the miracles attributed to him
are fairy tales but lot of his teachings I like.
 
> > good. By their fruit as Jesus wisely suggested. They are wolves in
> > sheep's clothing and you are one of them.
 
> I have also posted that on September 23, 2015 it would be the rapture.
 
At least you are honest wolf and admit your wrongdoing. That does
give us a chance.
 
> are literally being led by Satan and his demon imps. Those are people
> to watch out for, because they are just as dangerous to your soul as
> are unsaved people.
 
Nonsense ... and hope about you lost again. Don't search excuse
for your wrongdoings! Don't accuse Jesus in those! Admit that what
you did was because your own stupidity and fallibility! Admit that result
was evil! Don't forget to ask forgiveness also from people to whom
you did it. Jesus did nothing to drag you into it. You just *are* *not*
prophet of His.

Also you have the story wrong. There will be lot of hardships (a
tribulation), you (good Christians) will be killed during it most likely,
then Jesus will return and raise you (a rapture). I don't believe a word
of it but at least try to get it right.
 
> over their lives once they come to faith. But you must examine the
> whole fruit of their life, and see even how they respond to their mis-
> takes.
 
There is also second part ... (not only that correct prophets don't give
false prophecies) but that good people do something good. Have good
fruit. You talk a lot about your projects but I've never seen any actual
results of any of those.
 
> not trust me, but I ask you to go to the Bible and INVESTIGATE FOR
> YOURSELF, to read and study and see if GOD HIMSELF doesn't make Himself
> known to you through that study.
 
I often see that I know the Bible better than most of Christians. It is "fairy
tale" in my belief system but I happen to love fairy tales of all kinds.

> If you pursue Him with a truth-seeking, fact-finding, honestly-want-
> to-know-the-truth-about-it attitude, you will find it.
 
Huh. I don't think that anyone can accuse me of dishonesty. That
(being sometimes "too honest") has cost me some but also won me
some friends.
 
> > nothing of any spirits, neither evil nor good.
 
> God gave us the Bible so we can know what sin is. We compare our
> actions to His teachings and see where we fall short.
 
It is trivial. Sin is transgression against divine laws. Divine laws by Bible
are the 613 commandments. No one besides extreme orthodox Jews
follows those laws on our planet. Because these *feel* too far from
having anything divine. Look Deuteronomy 25:7-9:
 
And if the man like not to take his brother's wife, then let his brother's
wife go up to the gate unto the elders, and say, My husband's brother
refuseth to raise up unto his brother a name in Israel, he will not
perform the duty of my husband's brother. Then the elders of his city
shall call him, and speak unto him: and if he stand to it, and say, I like
not to take her; Then shall his brother's wife come unto him in the
presence of the elders, and loose his shoe from off his foot, and spit
in his face, and shall answer and say, So shall it be done unto that man
that will not build up his brother's house.
 
Just obscure to extreme. My brother fortunately has son so I don't
need to marry his wife if he dies. But if he did not have son and died?
Estonian laws don't allow me to have two wives. Should she then
loose my shoe and spit in my face? Divine law indeed?
"Öö Tiib" <ootiib@hot.ee>: May 28 10:44AM -0700

On Tuesday, 28 May 2019 16:40:03 UTC+3, fir wrote:
> W dniu poniedziałek, 27 maja 2019 16:21:04 UTC+2 użytkownik Öö Tiib napisał:
> > ... (medicore talking with idiot)
 
> you know youre trolling this group by talking with well know arrogant imbecile troll here ?
 
At least Rick has named it "[Jesus Loves You]" like he promised
and kept count of those low like he promised.
I consider it at least polite to then reward him with some real
discussion too in such a thread ... when I got time. It must be trivial
to ignore those threads even when you have no filters in your
newsreader.
 
fir <profesor.fir@gmail.com>: May 28 11:10AM -0700

W dniu wtorek, 28 maja 2019 19:44:36 UTC+2 użytkownik Öö Tiib napisał:
 
> > us.talking.with.idiots.spam
 
> > but not here..doing that you get a badge of kinda harmfull troll, too.. dik knows everybody knows he is idiot but his answer is as usual he show his big ass to anybody
 
> > (further dull talking with tis arrogant idiot move to -> us.talking.with.idiots.spam or writting.god.on.fat.ass.and.pointing.it.to.anybody)
 
do you mean it triial to ignore massive troling? sometimes not enough to be practical
 
besides thsi is not a point - the point is youre trolling this group by making
talking.with.idiot type threads ..
 
youre trolling, i reapeat youre trolling
(no to mention this kind of answer yopu provided is even harder trolling)

same as other half-trols who do that the same
"Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com>: May 28 11:12AM -0700

On Tuesday, May 28, 2019 at 12:16:52 PM UTC-4, Daniel wrote:
> > What we see in nature, even in science, all points to God.
 
> It could also point to Zeus and the greek pantheon, or to Thor and
> the lessor Norse deities.
 
Investigate them, Daniel. See if they've made claims to have
created the Heavens and the Earth, and to explain how they were
made. And then pursue their claims against the evidence.
 
Press in and push and prod what we see and know and have evidence
of to see how it aligns with the claims.
 
You'll find that ALL OF GOD'S CLAIMS BEAR OUT. It's what truth
does. It does not lie. It cannot lie. God is truth, and every-
thing He's said will come to pass as He has said it exactly.
 
--
Rick C. Hodgin
fir <profesor.fir@gmail.com>: May 28 11:32AM -0700

W dniu wtorek, 28 maja 2019 20:10:59 UTC+2 użytkownik fir napisał:
 
> youre trolling, i reapeat youre trolling
> (no to mention this kind of answer yopu provided is even harder trolling)
 
> same as other half-trols who do that the same
 
besides, obvious to add, i dont know how well your intelligence is, but dont you know what will happen with those exchanges with this moron?
 
he will write a word bibble or God on his more than 2 meter diameter ass and will move that ass close to your face 9also closing it to all the others) - he always do exactly that
 
maybe spare that to this group fella..
"Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com>: May 28 11:51AM -0700

On Tuesday, May 28, 2019 at 1:35:53 PM UTC-4, Öö Tiib wrote:
> food into those? If there will be angel involved then one is plenty
> and angel can correct its defects and add improvements if any
> needed. So your "alternative" is nonsense.
 
How many seeds to trees produce each year? How many of them become
trees the next year? How many trees do plants produce each year?
How many of those become plants?
 
Even females have how many eggs within their ovaries, yet how many
of those are emitted throughout their life? And why are those few
emitted?
 
You're asking a silly question, but their is precedence for the
nature of the physical aspect of our lives to be a particular way,
and without natural processes. Perhaps also the angel determines
which egg will be produced by a directive from God.
 
God is involved in every aspect of our lives. It is only sin
which prevents us from seeing Him moving as He is moving.
 
> of base pairs). There are tons of experiments made about it. Just
> mostly not with humans but other animals plants and insects.
> Read up, "teacher".
 
How did the information systems get encoded into that DNA? There
are literal compression, decompression, translation, post-RNA-pro-
duction editing processes, RNA sequences that are used for xyz
protein generation, as well as lmn sequences, and abc sequences,
so that the same exact code produces multiple different kinds of
proteins depending on how they are transcribed and by what, and
change any gene in those sequences and one of those machines will
fail, and the entire organism will breakdown.
 
The information encoded within DNA is the teller as to creation.
The mechanical processes just process through, but like a DVD or
USB disk that was found somewhere ... it's obvious by its design
that the raw materials of atomic arrangements into forms and shapes
were designed, not produced naturally.
 
> > The Bible and God once again proven correct.
 
> Nonsense. 5000 years is about 200 generations.
 
The Earth was different prior to the flood. People then lived to
be in their 900s regularly. After the flood, people lived to be
a few hundred years old, but quickly began living shorter and
shorter lives, and it was soon after that God went to Abraham,
who lived to be 175 yrs old, and told him that He would make a
promise with his seed which later became Israel and Moses and
all of Judaism, as well as Christianity.
 
God knew the accumulation of base pair errors, and that's why He
said do not marry close relatives in the Law of Moses.
 
> That is 0.00067% of genome. Also miscarriage and other fertility
> issues and freaks born to people and animals were in all written
> literature (and even in your Bible) always as common as today.
 
Generally speaking, those who are non-viable will not produce off-
spring at rates of those who are viable. Over time, the lesser
strong gene lines will die off.
 
God has allowed those people to be born, however, because all life,
even the product of incest or rape, is special to Him, because it
is all life, and all of us have fallen-in-sin bodies here in this
world. Even if we are strong and capable, our bodies can still
get sick, they age, they die, cancer can invade, etc.
 
We are all here on Earth for a short while, and then eternity be-
gins. Those people who died hundreds or thousands of years ago
are still dead. They will also be dead hundreds or thousands of
years from now ... from our perspective here on this Earth. But
in Heaven, time is not like it is here, and what we would call
eternity is not an unending sequence of days, but something more
like a 4D existence like where we move across the room, or across
the country, they can move across time, with eternity being some
large construction where we can go and participate in any part of
it we would like.
 
> We can now compensate the genetic defects with medical aid.
> Also we do have capability to read DNA from quite old bones. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ancient_DNA Nothing indicates that
> there was "perfect" set of it ever.
 
When man fell, one of the decrees by God was that Adam would have
to labor to have food. He would have to work by the sweat of his
brow to endure.
 
God has always had man hard working since original sin, and it was
for his own sake. When man is struggling, he stays close to his
needs. He recognizes the things he receives as the gifts they are.
When man has plenty, he begins to turn on God and say in his heart,
"I have grain stored up for years, I have need of nothing" and then
begins to become used by Satan as a vessel of harm and destruction
against his fellow man through his plentiful state.
 
God recognizes that our lives here ultimately achieve nothing that
will endure. All flesh is as grass, and it rises up, shines its
beauty for a time, but then fades and returns to the Earth. Noth-
ing here will endure. Even all of our great creations that could
theoretically last 100s of thousands of years or more will all be
burned up in fervent heat the Bible says.
 
This Earth was not meant to last. It was designed for a season,
and it has been wearing down since creation. It is a large and
vast machine creation of God, but it has an age and it will endure
long enough to separate out the wheat from the chaff in all human
souls. Those who will seek the truth will be saved, the rest will
not.
 
This entire Earth is a proving ground for us. We are given free
will to move as we will over each of our days, and God lets us
move (within limits) to our extents so we can record irrefutably
in the books of our lives recorded in Heaven who we are, so that
when the Judgment Day court begins, and the books are opened, each
of us will give an account of those things we did which are recorded
in the books.
 
https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Revelation+20%3A12&version=NIV;KJV
 
12 And I saw the dead, small and great, stand before God; and
the books were opened: and another book was opened, which
is the book of life: and the dead were judged out of those
things which were written in the books, according to their
works.
 
God gives us everything here we need to pursue Him. The enemy is
given wide latitude to deceive and mislead and we each choose who
we will follow by our responses to all of that input.
 
People like Leigh ignore the teachings and don't read them and post
replies like "tl;dr" and that is their decision cast into the books
being recorded in Heaven. Other people choose to believe the lies
of false Christians who killed witches and what not and say, "Those
people were evil! I could never be part of a system that condones
that!" They do not investigate to see if that's the true teaching
of the New Testament age (which we are in, the Age of Gentiles).
They incorrectly associate the guidance of the enemy to mislead and
misdirect those people who called themselves Christians into doing
heinous acts which were not things Jesus called us to do as though
they were. They self-condemn because they did not seek out the truth,
but were content to believe Satan's lie as though it were truth, and
that will be their judgment on Judgment Day.
 
Other people hear these words and within their core hear the call of
God and come out from the deception and realize their sin and ask Him
to forgive them so they are saved. In those books, Jesus has blotted
out, or transferred the sinful areas of their lives into His own book,
the one He accumulated entries full of at the cross when God trans-
ferred all the sins of all who would be saved, past, present, and fu-
ture, to His own Son on the cross, so Jesus could die with those sins,
setting us free.
 
The people who were saved will have books which read: On this day,
so-and-so did this for God. On this day, so-and-so did this for God,
and it will repeat for all days they were saved. Those people will
not be judged for their sin, but will given rewards for their service.
 
You look at things without a seeking eye, Öö Tiib. You are already
convinced you are right, so you look to shoot down everything which
does not align up with your preconceptions. As a result, you keep
yourself on the side of falseness and lies.
 
God invites you to come and test Him and prove Him and read the Bible
for yourself and see for yourself if what He has said and done is true.
You'll find it is. Fully.
 
> > acting on the journey to the egg?
 
> Because if angels do it then there are none need for millions of sperm.
> How can one be that dense? I asked it and you did not answer.
 
If the body produces various sequences of genes in each egg, and in
each sperm, how do the right combinations come together? We know in
scripture there are cases where people were born with specific attri-
butes. Was that coincidence? Or did God cause it to happen?
 
If God is directly responsible for the physical body of each created
being, meaning He either directly or indirectly by sending His angels,
determines which egg and which sperm comes together, then He's discern-
ing between the multitude to pull out the one He desires.
 
It's not being "dense," Öö Tiib. It's giving room for God to be a
part of what modern science would describe as an entirely random and
without God being involved phenomena.
 
From my perspective I might ask, "How can one be so unseeing as to
actually believe that God is not actively involved in all aspects of
our lives?"
 
It has to do with your world-view. And your world-view either comes
from God's Holy Spirit guidance if you're a born again Christian, or
from Satan's lies and false teachings over centuries if you're still
just of the flesh and have no spiritual life.
 
> > flawed people in sin, teaching you something.
 
> I take position that is reasonable. Your alternative (that angels breed)
> is clearly nonsense.
 
It is recorded in scripture that angels did breed with man physically
in the Old Testament before the flood. This is one of the reasons God
destroyed all life. He sought to reclaim His original DNA, which is
why He chose certain people, certain animals to come onto the ark and
be saved. He wanted clean DNA coming through, however, the Bible does
record that even after the flood some of that DNA made it through.
 
But this is not what I was talking about here. I was talking about
the possibility that God is actively involved in which egg and which
sperm of those that are available come together for conception. It
is a system which has God actively involved in our creation, which
would include our attributes like strength, speed, stamina, mental
capacity, etc., as well as our placement here on this Earth, which
city, which parents, what time, etc.
 
It puts God in the middle of it all, rather than removing it from
Him completely. And, I'll be the first to admit, I do not know if
this is possible. It does seem reasonable, however, being as there
are cases in the Bible where people with specific attributes were
used as examples. And even in modern times, people like Einstein
being born at a particular time so as to give the world nuclear
power. Someone soon will likely be born to explain gravity and even
to explain how electricity works (we don't know how it works, but
only how to use it from the properties we do understand, but why
does an EMP work, for example ... we don't know).
 
God places people at various times through history on purpose, for
specific purposes. He even names their attributes before they were
born. However, if this is true for all people at all times I do
not know. I do know, however, that it is possible, and knowing how
intimately God is involved with conception (we learn from many cases
in the Old and New Testaments that some people did not conceive for
many years, and that God would keep them from conceiving, even with
the animals as well at times).
 
It's possible. It's even likely probable. And it would be one other
area Satan would intentionally try and teach God is not involved, so
people can think it's just a clump of cells and support abortion, or
that it's not really a life until it's born, even though science
teaches us that it is a fully determined physical blueprint of every
cell in that future body at conception, and if God were involved in
conception it would change everything.
 
It's probably why God is involved in everything. All of those who
have not valued human life from conception will likely be judged by
God for that position after He, in Heaven, demonstrates how He was
not only involved, but intimately involved.
 
 
> No this is where brain has to be applied to the piles of data that we have.
> Not in a way that you assume your conclusion but in a way that you need
> to have actual plausible alternative explanation.
 
All of my explanations will follow the evidence. They will simply
allow for a position your view does not. They will allow for God
Almighty (Father, Son, Holy Spirit), to be the one intimately in-
volved with those things you would say are natural processes.
 
Nothing explodes in a Big Bang, which creates everything. The
universe cools and solid bodies are formed. The goo coalesces and
out comes DNA systems which produce oranges, palm trees, coconuts,
parrots, polar bears, fish, gazelles, kangaroos and man. Really?
 
> I will just erase rest of your wall ...
 
You will be judged for what you have been exposed to. To hear the
idea that God may be involved in things you assume God is not in-
volved with today, that burden is now upon you and you must prove
out that your position is right, because you knowing the possibility
that God is involved will now be considered against you on Judgment
Day.
 
Seek the truth, Öö Tiib. The truth will never fail you, for God is
truth.
 
--
Rick C. Hodgin
"Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com>: May 28 11:53AM -0700

On Tuesday, May 28, 2019 at 1:36:26 PM UTC-4, Öö Tiib wrote:
> > On Monday, May 27, 2019 at 10:21:04 AM UTC-4, Öö Tiib wrote:
> > > Oooh, millions of scientists are "servants of Satan" ...
 
> You failed to answer so I snip it.
 
I answered your question. You cannot accept the answer because
it interferes with your view of the universe where God is not
required.
 
That view will not support you in the end. It will fail you
outright. It's why I take the time to teach you about the other
view you ignore and dismiss today.
 
Consider God, Öö Tiib. Seek to learn what HE will teach you.
Investigate HIM for yourself. Learn of what HE has given you
to know, and see if He doesn't hold up to every possible question
or scenario you can lay before Him. Not only will He hold up,
He will astound and amaze and enthrall and excite.
 
--
Rick C. Hodgin
"Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com>: May 28 11:58AM -0700

On Tuesday, May 28, 2019 at 2:10:59 PM UTC-4, fir wrote:
> do you mean it triial to ignore massive troling? ...
 
fir, a day is coming when you will discover for real that I have
never been a troll. You will discover that what I have been teach-
ing you is as accurate as I can to the knowledge of God He has given
mankind, and I have understood it.
 
You will find that I was seeking to be your friend, seeking to teach
you what you needed to know to have eternal life, that I cared about
your soul and prayed for you and sought with patience and passion to
overcome the enemy's attacks lashing out at me through your posts
against me.
 
You will find that God loved you enough to put that love for you in
my heart so I would spend my time reaching out to you.
 
I pray you find this out BEFORE you leave this world, but either way
you will know the truth one day. That truth will either save you,
or condemn you.
 
The same is true for the rest of you reading this. I teach what I
teach because you are all valuable and precious and most desirable
to God. He longs with greatest longing to forgive your sin and save
you and give you eternal life in Heaven with Him in a body like the
angels that never tires, wears out, gets hungry, or has any weakness
or failure.
 
God wants you to be with Him where He is in His Kingdom splendor of
glory and grace and power and love.
 
His offer's on the table. Learn about Him and be saved.
 
--
Rick C. Hodgin
Mr Flibble <flibbleREMOVETHISBIT@i42.co.uk>: May 28 08:12PM +0100

On 28/05/2019 13:38, Rick C. Hodgin wrote:
> signature there. Even in the intricately balanced razor's edge con-
> stants we find in nature, which balance our universe on the mathe-
> matical equivalent of a finely sharpened knife's edge.
 
Nonsense.
A) Your bible is false.
B) Your god the existence of which is predicated on your bible being true
is, given (A), also false.
 
/Flibble
 
--
"You won't burn in hell. But be nice anyway." – Ricky Gervais
 
"I see Atheists are fighting and killing each other again, over who
doesn't believe in any God the most. Oh, no..wait.. that never happens." –
Ricky Gervais
 
"Suppose it's all true, and you walk up to the pearly gates, and are
confronted by God," Bryne asked on his show The Meaning of Life. "What
will Stephen Fry say to him, her, or it?"
"I'd say, bone cancer in children? What's that about?" Fry replied.
"How dare you? How dare you create a world to which there is such misery
that is not our fault. It's not right, it's utterly, utterly evil."
"Why should I respect a capricious, mean-minded, stupid God who creates a
world that is so full of injustice and pain. That's what I would say."
"Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com>: May 28 01:02PM -0700

"The truth is, nobody in history should be more revered, respected and
loved than Jesus Christ. He performed works of compassion for the people
he met; he wept over the world's spiritual blindness and poured out his
life for all. But in spite of the good things Jesus did, the world hated
him without cause."
 
https://www.worldchallenge.org/devotion/hated-without-cause
 
--
Rick C. hodgin
"Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com>: May 28 01:45PM -0700

Please pardon me while I spend a few minutes laughing hysterically
at this absolutely ridiculous postulation published in a "mainstream
science" source. This one postulation has been picked up by many
scientific publications. Speculation about something they think may
have happened up to 8 million years ago.
 
Laughable beyond words:
 
https://phys.org/news/2019-05-ancient-supernovae-prompted-human-ancestors.html
 
"The authors believe atmospheric ionization probably triggered
an enormous upsurge in cloud-to-ground lightning strikes that
ignited forest fires around the globe. These infernos could be
one reason ancestors of homo sapiens developed bipedalism—to
adapt in savannas that replaced torched forests in northeast
Africa."
 
How embarrassing for mankind.
 
--
Rick C. Hodgin
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