- Hardware advice - 11 Updates
| Real Troll <real.troll@trolls.com>: Mar 04 10:20PM -0400 > As you may know I'm looking for some external users. > Despite the lack of users, I'm thinking about buying > parts and building a new server. People don't normally have their own servers these days when there are cheap alternatives that are resilient and on 24/7 availability. Try using Microsoft Azure or google Cloud and you'll be amazed that they are so affordable that why did nobody thought of that before!! After the trial period you will almost pennies per month depending on traffic generated by your work. Their static websites have always been free for a very long time; They only charge if you have to use their computing power for dynamic content or databases. |
| Christian Gollwitzer <auriocus@gmx.de>: Mar 05 08:11AM +0100 > parts and building a new server. > I'll probably go with AMD Ryzen, but am trying to > decide between AM4 or a threadripper TRX40.... OFF TOPIC. This has nothing to do with C++. Go to a hardware forum. Christian |
| Real Troll <real.troll@trolls.com>: Mar 05 03:25AM -0400 On 05/03/2020 07:11, Christian Gollwitzer wrote: >> decide between AM4 or a threadripper TRX40.... > OFF TOPIC. This has nothing to do with C++. Go to a hardware forum. > Christian Are you the new moderator here or are you simply looking for a fight? |
| David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no>: Mar 05 09:22AM +0100 On 05/03/2020 08:25, Real Troll wrote: >> OFF TOPIC. This has nothing to do with C++. Go to a hardware forum. >> Christian > Are you the new moderator here or are you simply looking for a fight? There is no moderator here, but Woodbrian's thinly veiled spam annoys a lot of people. He is trying to advertise for customers - in a desperate, annoying, and clearly futile manner. He posts some daft stuff - but /no one/ plans to buy a big fast server to handle customers when they don't have any, /no one/ who needs a server for their IT business should need a Usenet group to tell them about cloud services (the guy is obsessed with the idea of "middleware as a service" - cloud servers can't be a new thought for him). And /no one/ posts in a C++ newsgroup when they actually want advice on server hardware. He is merely spamming here. (Surely you should be able to recognize a fellow Troll?) Now, I wish him all the best in his business and success in his project - just as a do for anyone else. But he has been at this for years - desperately offering money and free work hours for anyone who might use his product. When you can't pay people to take it, and have tried for many years, there is something badly wrong with your product or your business model. This group is a fine place to discuss the C++ involved in his project - but not a place to advertise for customers. |
| Jorgen Grahn <grahn+nntp@snipabacken.se>: Mar 05 08:47AM On Thu, 2020-03-05, Real Troll wrote: >> OFF TOPIC. This has nothing to do with C++. Go to a hardware forum. >> Christian > Are you the new moderator here or are you simply looking for a fight? Anyone here can point out that a posting is offtopic, as you well know. /Jorgen -- // Jorgen Grahn <grahn@ Oo o. . . \X/ snipabacken.se> O o . |
| Real Troll <real.troll@trolls.com>: Mar 05 05:10AM -0400 On 05/03/2020 08:22, David Brown wrote: > He is trying to advertise for customers Don't be silly. If he is a real businessman then he should know that he is not likely to get any customers here. It is very rare you get customers on a newsgroup where the majority of people are simply passing time and trying to learn something new. Getting customers here is the last thing a real businessman would think of. He might try to get something done for free; For example there is a chap called "ToadandMargo" ( aka T )who goes to Windows 10 newsgroup and asks some technical questions when his customers ask him. He is quite open about this not even ashamed about it. People know about him and still decide to offer him solutions. He sometimes goes to C newsgroup and does the same thing thing. Search for the name T and you'll know him. |
| David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no>: Mar 05 10:46AM +0100 On 05/03/2020 10:10, Real Troll wrote: > customers on a newsgroup where the majority of people are simply passing > time and trying to learn something new. Getting customers here is the > last thing a real businessman would think of. Of course - assuming that by "real businessman" you mean a businessman who knows what he is doing and is running a business reasonably well. But look at Woodbrian's posting history. What about him gives you the impression that he is running a successful business here? (I have no idea what else he does - for all I know, he has a successful grocery shop business that pays the bills. And I make no judgement on his skills as a programmer. All I can see from his posts is that he has been trying to persuade people to try his software for many years, apparently with no takers at all.) > open about this not even ashamed about it. People know about him and > still decide to offer him solutions. He sometimes goes to C newsgroup > and does the same thing thing. Search for the name T and you'll know him. That's fine. People come to newsgroups all the time looking for help and advice that is for use by customers. It is perhaps a bit crude to simply ask for help and pass on the answers to your customers directly, but "crude" can be okay too when you are open and honest about it. And I have no problem with Brian (or anyone else) asking for free advice. Pure hardware questions are well off-topic here, and better handled elsewhere - and Brian knows this. He is not asking because he thinks people here can give him a good recommendation of a power supply! It is possible for hardware questions to be on-topic, but it would have to be geared towards C++ (such as a discussion of what hardware architectures would work best for particular software arrangements). But I think this is enough off-topic posting for now. |
| "Öö Tiib" <ootiib@hot.ee>: Mar 05 04:36AM -0800 On Thursday, 5 March 2020 10:22:47 UTC+2, David Brown wrote: > (the guy is obsessed with the idea of "middleware as a service" - cloud > servers can't be a new thought for him). And /no one/ posts in a C++ > newsgroup when they actually want advice on server hardware. Middleware as service does not seem to work even for dominant monsters, who have all planet tightly covered with their powerful servers, skyscrapers full of talented programmers and unimaginable marketing budgets. Example: Microsoft bought Skype, added its middleware services into Skype's communications (that were P2P at first) and what was once brilliant for global interaction product degraded into mediocre. Pointless traffic in middle deteriorated latency and throughput of the product badly. And market just shrugs and switches to alternatives (like Zoom or Slack or just name it) like usually. > He is merely spamming here. (Surely you should be able to recognize a > fellow Troll?) Now, I wish him all the best in his business and success > in his project - just as a do for anyone else. Note that he is most likely convinced in opposite. To me it is even unclear what the actual points and goals are of what he does. The comp.lang.c++ would no way fit into list of places that I would consider as marketing channel. He is apparently not real businessman but still. > who might use his product. When you can't pay people to take it, and > have tried for many years, there is something badly wrong with your > product or your business model. Most people learn from analysing their previous successes and failures, smarter people even learn from successes and failures of others analysed by others. Woodbrian is avoiding doing either ... despite he clearly isn't entirely dumb. So some aspect of why to have such "product" is rational for him is apparently unclear to us. > This group is a fine place to discuss the C++ involved in his project - > but not a place to advertise for customers. It is fine to evaluate and discuss servers and communications of whatever scale systems here too. Performance critical parts of such systems are often written in C++ anyway. However I doubt that it does help Woodbrian in any way. He just avoids discussing most of the painfully obvious points raised. |
| woodbrian77@gmail.com: Mar 05 08:56AM -0800 On Wednesday, March 4, 2020 at 8:18:04 PM UTC-6, Real Troll wrote: > so affordable that why did nobody thought of that before!! After the > trial period you will almost pennies per month depending on traffic > generated by your work. I've been using Duckduckgo.com for years as an alternative to Google. I don't have a "trial period". It's a free service. Brian |
| woodbrian77@gmail.com: Mar 05 09:31AM -0800 On Thursday, March 5, 2020 at 1:11:35 AM UTC-6, Christian Gollwitzer wrote: > > decide between AM4 or a threadripper TRX40.... > OFF TOPIC. This has nothing to do with C++. Go to a hardware forum. > Christian Do you have a suggestion for another forum? |
| Mr Flibble <flibbleREMOVETHISBIT@i42.co.uk>: Mar 05 10:52PM On 05/03/2020 09:10, Real Troll wrote: > On 05/03/2020 08:22, David Brown wrote: >> He is trying to advertise for customers > Search for the name T and you'll know him. Do you not recognize how searching for "T" might be problematic? I suspect you do and you are simply shitposting. /Flibble -- "Snakes didn't evolve, instead talking snakes with legs changed into snakes." - Rick C. Hodgin "You won't burn in hell. But be nice anyway." – Ricky Gervais "I see Atheists are fighting and killing each other again, over who doesn't believe in any God the most. Oh, no..wait.. that never happens." – Ricky Gervais "Suppose it's all true, and you walk up to the pearly gates, and are confronted by God," Byrne asked on his show The Meaning of Life. "What will Stephen Fry say to him, her, or it?" "I'd say, bone cancer in children? What's that about?" Fry replied. "How dare you? How dare you create a world to which there is such misery that is not our fault. It's not right, it's utterly, utterly evil." "Why should I respect a capricious, mean-minded, stupid God who creates a world that is so full of injustice and pain. That's what I would say." |
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