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* dealing with lower level programmers - 1 messages, 1 author
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* نغمات البوم الفنانه المصريه شيرين عبد الوهاب حبيـت 2009 - 1 messages, 1
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Fri, Jul 31 2009 10:09 pm
From: Gerhard Fiedler

Ian Collins wrote:

> My customers are happy and I haven't gone bust, so therefore I must be
> producing good code!

So you agree that Microsoft must be producing good code? Just
checking... :)

Gerhard

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TOPIC: static inline functions - possible?
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Fri, Jul 31 2009 10:35 pm
From: Gerhard Fiedler

Balog Pal wrote:

> "Juha Nieminen" <nospam@thanks.invalid> az alábbiakat írta a következo
> hírüzenetben: w3Hcm.219$sW4.158@read4.inet.fi...
>> Balog Pal wrote:
>>> "Juha Nieminen" <nospam@thanks.invalid>
>>>> Balog Pal wrote:
>>>>> I worked with those separated inlines -- at a time made some
>>>>> myself, my net conclusion is it makes things worse.
>>>> Makes what worse?
>>>
>>> readability, understandability, maitainance...
>>
>> IMO the readability of a class declaration suffers if all the inline
>> functions are implemented inside the declaration. They tend to make
>> the class declaration very large (in lines of code).
>>
>> If the class is very small (in number of inline member functions)
>> and all the inline functions are one-liners, then it's ok, but not
>> otherwise.
>
> Exactly :), that is how calsses shall better look. If there is a ton
> of functions, and you want the compiler inline fat functions, I'd
> guess the problems will not come from organizing them in the header,
> and will hardly be cured by extracting those inlines.

When I have eight functions each a page long, I don't like them inside
the declaration. Rips the context apart.

Gerhard

== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Fri, Jul 31 2009 11:10 pm
From: Ian Collins

Gerhard Fiedler wrote:
>
> When I have eight functions each a page long, I don't like them inside
> the declaration. Rips the context apart.

When I have eight functions each a page long, I know I've done something
wrong!

--
Ian Collins

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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Fri, Jul 31 2009 10:35 pm
From: Gerhard Fiedler

Jerry Coffin wrote:

>>> James Kanze wrote:
>>>> I've looked a little bit more at it. I don't see a shell. Using
>>>> Unix-like tools means linking them together---the shell is the
>>>> glue. And the default Windows command interpreter (what executes
>>>> .bat files) is pretty weak. What do Windows users use for this?
>>
>>> Typically cmd.exe; as Jerry says, it's not that weak, it's just that
>>> most people don't know how to use it :)
>>
>> One last question for you and Jerry (although I know this isn't
>> really the right place): could you recommend a good book about this
>> shell? (I'll be visiting the local technical bookshop tomorrow
>> afternoon, and would buy it immediately if they have it.)
>
> There are lots of them, but I can't honestly recommend any of them.
> I'd puzzled out most of what I know from the MSDN documentation (and
> such) long before most of the books had been written, so I've never
> really looked at them.

A long time ago I bought the "Windows 2000 Commands Pocket Reference"
(O'Reilly, http://oreilly.com/catalog/9780596001483/ -- they now also
have newer XP and Vista revisions). Inexpensive and useful if you like
paper. Otherwise there's the online help and your favorite search engine
:)

One quick thing: in a cmd.exe window click on the application icon and
select properties (or select the properties of a shortcut to a command
line program, like cmd.exe) and edit to your liking. If you do command
line work, the standard window is probably too small, and possibly
doesn't have the right colors.

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