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Date: Sat, Oct 31 2009 1:40 am
From: Paavo Helde
"jason chen" <chenxing2520@163.com> wrote in
news:hcgolt$m1q$1@www.shinco.com:
> hello:
> A stupid question like this:
> when I read the [Inside the C++ object model], I meet a question.
> "You must use the member initialization list, when you call the
> constructo
> of a member class, and it provided with some parameters."
> I can't understand it.
> Anybody can answer me? Thank you very much
The wording is not very clear, but I think this basically means that line
(1) below won't compile, but (2) compiles:
class A {
public:
A(int) {}
};
class B {
A a;
public:
B() {a=1;} // (1) - wrong
B(): a(1) {} // (2) - right
};
There is also a FAQ on that topic:
http://www.parashift.com/c++-faq-lite/ctors.html#faq-10.6
hth
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== 3 of 4 ==
Date: Sat, Oct 31 2009 2:38 am
From: "jason chen"
I see.
Thank your very much.
--
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> "jason chen" <chenxing2520@163.com> wrote in
> news:hcgolt$m1q$1@www.shinco.com:
>
>> hello:
>> A stupid question like this:
>> when I read the [Inside the C++ object model], I meet a question.
>> "You must use the member initialization list, when you call the
>> constructo
>> of a member class, and it provided with some parameters."
>> I can't understand it.
>> Anybody can answer me? Thank you very much
>
> The wording is not very clear, but I think this basically means that line
> (1) below won't compile, but (2) compiles:
>
> class A {
> public:
> A(int) {}
> };
>
> class B {
> A a;
> public:
> B() {a=1;} // (1) - wrong
> B(): a(1) {} // (2) - right
> };
>
> There is also a FAQ on that topic:
>
> http://www.parashift.com/c++-faq-lite/ctors.html#faq-10.6
>
> hth
> Paavo
>
== 4 of 4 ==
Date: Sat, Oct 31 2009 8:00 am
From: "Fraser Ross"
The default constructor would be invoked for members that aren't in the
initialiser list. There isn't another option.
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Sat, Oct 31 2009 1:16 am
From: Martijn van Buul
* Joshua Maurice:
> They preferred that the code would either fail on both compilers or pass on
> both compilers. You know, basically help the portability of code.
However, since the outcome on different compilers can now be different should
your copy constructor have side effects (or if your copy constructor doesn't
"copy" at all!), portability is down the drain anyway.
--
Martijn van Buul - pino@dohd.org
== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Sat, Oct 31 2009 3:40 am
From: "Bo Persson"
Martijn van Buul wrote:
> * Joshua Maurice:
>> They preferred that the code would either fail on both compilers
>> or pass on both compilers. You know, basically help the
>> portability of code.
>
> However, since the outcome on different compilers can now be
> different should your copy constructor have side effects (or if
> your copy constructor doesn't "copy" at all!), portability is down
> the drain anyway.
Yes, but if I make the copy constructor private to disable copying, I
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Sat, Oct 31 2009 3:40 am
From: Saeed Amrollahi
On Oct 31, 12:01 am, "doublemaster...@gmail.com"
<doublemaster...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Is it good to typedef the types?? What is the actual use of it? I am
> working on project where tooo many typedefs are used..If many people
> are working on a project..only the person who defined will be
> remembering it..finally too many typedefs will be there and code
> becomes hard to use...
>
> So i wanna know..is typedefs are really useful in full fledged
> project??
Hi
Just my two cents ...
In addition to what Richard wrote, sometimes typedef declaration is
almost necessary.
For example, in C++ standard library, there are a lot of typedef
declarations
inside declaration/defintion of containers. A typical typedef is a
another
name for template parameter:
template<class T> // the bare bones
class std::list {
// ...
typedef T value_type;
// ...
};
So, we can use the template parameter:
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{
typename list<T>::value_type v = *v.begin();
// ...
}
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Also the keyword "typename" in above line is necessary.
Regards,
-- Saeed Amrollahi
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From: Gerhard Fiedler
James Kanze wrote:
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>
>> That may well be. But the rounding aspect is still a problem.
>
> No. You're basically outputting (and reading) two integers:
Ah, of course... :) <slap on forehead>
Gerhard
== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Sat, Oct 31 2009 7:19 am
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>
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>
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>
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> Pavel wrote:
>> Paavo Helde wrote:
>>> Tagore <c.lang.myself@gmail.com> wrote in news:7700e2af-a00b-44bf-9d5a-
>>> 4a1030a8bc57@y32g2000prd.googlegroups.com:
>>>
>>>> hi,
>>>> consider following class:
>>>> class A
>>>> {
>>>> int i;
>>>> public:
>>>> A(int k)
>>>> { i=k;}
>>>> };
>>>> Now I can create an object of class in 2 ways:
>>>> A a; //first method
>>>> A a(10); //second method
>>>>
>>>> In first method, a default constructor implicitly defined is called.
>>>> but value of i remains garbage. and instance is not consistent.
>>>> How can I enforce that this default constructor is not called and
>>>> first method generates an error.
>>>
>>> You have just done that, by defining another constructor A(int).
>>
>> Another
>>> option would be to declare a private constructor A(), and not provide
>>> a definition for it.
>> As OP needs an error (compilation error, I guess), only this second
>> method you mentioned will probably suit him. What he has done
>> prevented the default constructor from being supplied by
>> implementation but still allowed the definition without initializers,
>> like "A a;" above to get compiled.
>>
>
> Trying to compile (using g++ 4.3.0) this:
> class A
> {
> int i;
> public:
> A(int k)
> { i=k;}
> };
>
> int main()
> {
> A a; //first method
> A b(10); //second method
> }
>
> I am getting this:
> g++ gve.cpp
> gve.cpp: In function 'int main()':
> gve.cpp:12: error: no matching function for call to 'A::A()'
> gve.cpp:6: note: candidates are: A::A(int)
> gve.cpp:3: note: A::A(const A&)
>
>
> So, how are you compiling to prevent that happening??
>
>
You are right, this must not compile -- sorry for the confusion.
-Pavel
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TOPIC: Member initialisation and construction
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.lang.c++/t/92df4caacc840728?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Sat, Oct 31 2009 10:02 am
From: Pavel
Taras_96 wrote:
> So to recap.
>
> * The compiler generated default constructor is a constructor with an
> empty initializer list and body
> * If a constructor ommits a member from the initialization list:
> ** If the entity is a nonstatic data member of (possibly cv-qualified)
> class type (or array thereof) or a base
> class, and the entity class is a non-POD class, the entity is default-
> initialized (8.5).
> ** Otherwise, the entity is not initialized
>
> Foo foo; // default initialization
> The default constructor is called (regardless of whether it is user
> defined or not)
>
> Foo foo = Foo(); // value initialization
> If there IS a user declared constructor, it is called (and program is
> ill formed if there is no default constructor)
> If a non-union class type without a user-declared constructor, then
> every non-static data member and base-class component of T is value-
> initialized;
>
> So, 'int Foo::x; will not be initialized IF:
>
> - foo is default initialized and the compiler generated default
> constructor is used
> - foo is default initialized and a user generated default constructor
> is used, *and* Foo::x is ommitted from the initializer list
> - foo is value initialized and a user generated default constructor is
> used, *and* Foo::x is ommitted from the initializer list
>
> NB: int Foo::x WILL be initialized if foo is value initialized, and
> there is no user declared default constructor (unlike if you were to
> default initialize foo), as "every non-static data member and base-
> class component of T is value-initialized"
>
> This to me is unusual that the behaviour wasn't made consistent... why
> not just make it so that all members are always initialized,
> regardless of whether the parent object is default initialized, value
> initialized, or if a user declared constructor is used.
>
> Taras
>
My understanding it is for efficiency. If you do not want to initialize
a data member or you cannot initialize it in initializer (which
sometimes happens although not as often as it is used as a justification
for initializing in the body), you would end up to copying to that
member more than once.
As opposed to, for example, Java, C++ does not do static analysis of the
constructor body so it cannot (is not required to) ensure that the data
member that is not initialized in initializer is assigned to (or
initialized by other means) in the body of the constructor. Thus to
allow the calculation of a data member value in the constructor's body
without the overhead of extra copy, C++ also has to allow you to leave
it uninitialized. C++'s cheese (passing function parameters by
references and pointers) is not free -- it stays in the way of complete
static analysis by the compiler.
Certainly there are also situations where you do not want to initialize
at all, either in the initializer or in the body. Imagine you have a
cache of a significant but fixed size, some char cache[MAX_SIZE]. In
order to avoid an extra dynamic memory (de)allocation, you make it a
bare C array. You may have a single boolean "bool cacheDirty"
(initialized to true) or used size "size_t cacheSize;" (initialized to
zero) and avoid unnecessary copying into the whole cache on the creation
of the class.
-Pavel
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TOPIC: Ambiguous in MI
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.lang.c++/t/0c8356a20fbb2259?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Sat, Oct 31 2009 10:36 am
From: Pavel
James Kanze wrote:
> On Oct 24, 2:28 pm, "Alf P. Steinbach" <al...@start.no> wrote:
>> * tas:
>>> class B{
>>> public:
>>> virtual void fun() = 0;
>>> ......
>>> };
>>> class C{
>>> public:
>>> void fun();
>>> };
>>> class A: public B, private C {
>>> };
>
>>> void A::fun(){
>>> .......
>>> }
>
>>> MSVC 6.0 : " 'A::fun()' is ambiquous could be the 'fun' in
>>> base B of class A or the 'fun' in base C of class A."
>
>>> But when i wrote "public:void fun();" in class A all was good.
>
>> I take it this means that when you provided a declaration in
>> class A then the compiler finally accepted your code.
>
>>> Why is this happening?
>
>> C++ requires declarations.
>
> And definitions, if the declared thing is "potentially used"
> (and any virtual function is potentially used if the class is
> instantiated).
>
>>> And how i can redefine 'C::fun()' in class A?
>
>> You can redefine it and that is what you've done above, but
>> that's surely not what you mean. You probably mean how you can
>> override it. To override it it needs to be virtual in C.
>
> I suspect (but I'm really just guessing) that what he's
> expecting is the behavior of Java: that C::fun() will provide
> the implementation of B::fun(), just because the function
> happens to accidentally have the same name in two different,
> unrelated classes. C++ doesn't have this defect in the
> language; you have to explicitly tell the compiler that the
> implementation in C::fun() is the one you want here, by defining
> an A::fun() which calls C::fun().
You are confusing me.. Care to share an example of Java code you had in
mind?
-Pavel
>
> --
> James Kanze
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TOPIC: efficient swap method
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Date: Sat, Oct 31 2009 11:10 am
From: forums_mp@hotmail.com
Consider:
template < typename T, unsigned int size>
inline T swap_bytes ( T const value ) {
// assert macro
union {
T value;
char bytes[ size ];
} input, output;
input.value = value;
for ( unsigned int idx = 0; idx < size / 2; ++idx )
{
output.bytes[ idx ] = input.bytes[size - 1 - idx ];
output.bytes[size - 1 - idx ] = input.bytes[ idx ];
}
return output.value;
}
Interested in perhaps a more efficient means to achieve the same
objective? Benchmarks over a million interations shows the funciton
above as approximately ~55% of my total number. std::swap if memory
serves is linear time so .. i'm wondering (laptop got fried last night
so I'm unable to check) if a standard swap approach would eb more
prudent
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