Monday, May 21, 2018

Digest for comp.lang.c++@googlegroups.com - 17 updates in 7 topics

boltar@cylonHQ.com: May 21 12:32PM

On Sun, 20 May 2018 21:48:42 +0100
 
>Right. Pipe was the first one that sprang to mind, and one I know is
>available on both Linux and Windows. Yet the only way Boltar knows is to
>pass command line parameters.
 
And how would the newly started child process know that it has to read from
a pipe/socket/fifo from a parent instead of just starting up normally when
both parent and child will start at main() ? Unless windows has some voodoo
magic then a command line switch is the only way to do it. Which is fugly.
scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal): May 21 02:22PM

>> systems where overcommit and copy-on-write are common,
 
>Sensible Unix systems do not use over-commit, it is a Linux specific
>abomination.
 
Actually, that "abomination" predates Linux. IIRC, AIX had a similar
mechanism way back when - we spent some time discussing this during
X/Open meetings in the early 90's vis-a-vis malloc.
 
I also believe that support for that feature can be disabled in linux
if desired.
Melzzzzz <Melzzzzz@zzzzz.com>: May 21 04:13PM

> X/Open meetings in the early 90's vis-a-vis malloc.
 
> I also believe that support for that feature can be disabled in linux
> if desired.
Linux has three settings. Disabled, ratio of available ram, and
unrestricted. Default is 50% of available RAM.
 
 
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Vir Campestris <vir.campestris@invalid.invalid>: May 21 11:06PM +0100

> a pipe/socket/fifo from a parent instead of just starting up normally when
> both parent and child will start at main() ? Unless windows has some voodoo
> magic then a command line switch is the only way to do it. Which is fugly.
 
In the Linux world, return code from fork(). In the Windows world - why
would the child process be running the same exe as the parent? But if it
is can't it just look at its parent process?
 
Andy
Real Troll <real.troll@trolls.com>: May 21 02:18PM -0400

On 21/05/2018 15:13, Christiano wrote:
 
> I would like to know your opinion.
 
A very bad idea. If you are fond of web based forums (never mind Google
Forums) then why don't you start your own forum and spam here or employ
Amine Moulay Ramdane to spam it for you.
 
Do you guys think hard before embarking on a new project?
 
Moderated Newsgroups or Forums are not going to work. PERIOD. It is
like Windows software won't become popular unless you get software
pirates. LinuxOS is not popular because there is no fun in cracking
it. It's free so why waste time.
 
I like to reverse engineer a software but I don't bother with Linux.
"Alf P. Steinbach" <alf.p.steinbach+usenet@gmail.com>: May 21 08:53AM +0200

Just wondering. If it doesn't work out (the Usenet group management
infra-structure has possibly been completely demolished by now) I think
we're all grateful for the effort anyway. But what's status?
 
Cheers!,
 
- Alf
legalize+jeeves@mail.xmission.com (Richard): May 21 04:08PM

[Please do not mail me a copy of your followup]
 
"Alf P. Steinbach" <alf.p.steinbach+usenet@gmail.com> spake the secret code
 
>Just wondering. If it doesn't work out (the Usenet group management
>infra-structure has possibly been completely demolished by now) I think
>we're all grateful for the effort anyway. But what's status?
 
I need to get a public/private key pair created so I can have
authenticated access to the posting gateway. Sorry I haven't made
progress on this more quickly, life manages to get in the way.
 
I'll make an effort to get it higher on the list of outside work
things to do.
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Christiano <christiano@engineer.com>: May 21 11:13AM -0300

I've created the Group comp-lang-cpp because the usenet comp.lang.c++ is
being trolled a long time without a definitive solution.
 
I want to transfer my ownership to the moderator of the group
std-discussion and I want to suggest to isocpp.org to add comp-lang-cpp
here:
https://isocpp.org/std/forums
 
This is being discussed here:
https://groups.google.com/a/isocpp.org/forum/#!topic/std-discussion/pAL2dOe9MIk
 
I would like to know your opinion.
legalize+jeeves@mail.xmission.com (Richard): May 21 04:06PM

[Please do not mail me a copy of your followup]
 
Christiano <christiano@engineer.com> spake the secret code
 
>I've created the Group comp-lang-cpp because the usenet comp.lang.c++ is
>being trolled a long time without a definitive solution.
 
I won't be going there. I need to get a public/private key setup and
then we will have comp.lang.c++.moderated back.
 
If I wanted to use google groups, I wouldn't be on usenet.
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Sky89 <Sky89@sky68.com>: May 21 10:55AM -0400

Hello,
 
 
Don't bother, i am not destructing this forum, it is easy
for me to stop from writing on this forum of C++ and
i will do it now, i will stop writing on this forum.
 
 
 
Than you,
Amine Moulay Ramdane.
Sky89 <Sky89@sky68.com>: May 21 12:22AM -0400

Hello...
 
Read this:
 
 
Read the following because it is important and it says:
 
1- Human brains, are intuition machines. Intuition is that parallel
cognitive process that we develop by learning using induction. Said
differently, we learn from experience. We can't just upload knowledge of
Kung Fu and instantly master the art. Humans require years of practice
 
 
2- Human cognition is a heuristic system that is heavily flawed but can
react and adapt extremely rapidly.
 
 
3- Computers are logic machines, computers have several orders of
magnitude more capable in performing logic than humans. A simple hand
calculator has more arithmetic intelligence than any human alive.
 
 
Read the following very interesting webpage to understand:
 
Are Biological Brains Made Of Only Discrete Logic?
 
https://medium.com/intuitionmachine/brains-are-intuition-machines-and-are-driven-by-discrete-computation-e210d2e03501
 
 
So from the above and from 2 above, that means since human cognition is
a heuristic system that is heavily flawed but can react and adapt
extremely rapidly, we can say that to be more "precision" and more
"logic" and more "calculations" and to be more "mathematical"
sophistication and more "sophistication", we human need softwares and we
need computers and we need internet and we need artificial intelligence...
 
 
 
Thank you,
Amine Moulay Ramdane.
Juha Nieminen <nospam@thanks.invalid>: May 21 06:01AM

> Hello...
 
> Read this:
 
Congratulations. You are the first person ever that I have added to my
newsreader killfile.
Chris Vine <chris@cvine--nospam--.freeserve.co.uk>: May 21 11:42AM +0100

7 hours ago you posted "I will not continu (sic) to post off-topic".
Now you do exactly that.
 
It is not acceptable that you cannot control yourself, and spew this
newsgroup with your absurd off topic postings. What right do you think
you have to do it? You are a self-absorbed fuckwit who has no
conception of the rights of others or the norms that govern proper
social behaviour between human beings. You are wholly amoral and
selfish.
 
You clearly also know very little about C++ and about programming
generally. And the frequency with which you post and with which you
issue corrections to both your postings and your software shows that
your software is total crap. No one with your level of mental
disturbance could actually produce something worth while; and no one is
going to use software produced by someone as mentally disturbed and
delusional as you are.
 
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On Mon, 21 May 2018 00:22:41 -0400
Jorgen Grahn <grahn+nntp@snipabacken.se>: May 21 02:30PM

On Mon, 2018-05-21, Chris Vine wrote:
> 7 hours ago you posted "I will not continu (sic) to post off-topic".
> Now you do exactly that.
 
> It is not acceptable that you cannot control yourself,
 
It's not acceptable that *you* (and others who respond) cannot
control yourselves. Unlike the OP, you're not crazy.
 
Please killfile him. It's the only rational thing to do.
 
/Jorgen
 
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Chris Vine <chris@cvine--nospam--.freeserve.co.uk>: May 21 03:48PM +0100

I don't agree.
 
He is ill but he has in the past responded to being told his behaviour
is unacceptable. After a few weeks he gets overtaken by another
manic phase but will usually in the end respond to requests to go away.
Kill files do not prevent newsgroups being destroyed by his kind of
behaviour - comp.programming.threads is a case in point but there are
others. He has pretty much destroyed every newsgroup he has decided to
use as his personal manic blog. I don't want to see that happen to this
one.
 
I do have two people kill filed. While those two are annoying they are
not destructive like Ramine/Aminer.
 
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On 21 May 2018 14:30:17 GMT
Sky89 <Sky89@sky68.com>: May 21 10:52AM -0400

On 5/21/2018 10:48 AM, Chris Vine wrote:
 
>> --
>> // Jorgen Grahn <grahn@ Oo o. . .
>> \X/ snipabacken.se> O o .
 
 
 
Don't bother, i am not destructing this forum, it is easy
for me to stop from writing on this forum of C++ and
i will do it now, i will stop writing on this forum.
 
 
 
Than you,
Amine Moulay Ramdane.
Sky89 <Sky89@sky68.com>: May 21 12:44AM -0400

Hello..
 
Read this:
 
 
More precision:
 
A heuristic technique (/hjʊəˈrɪstɪk/; Ancient Greek: εὑρίσκω, "find" or
"discover"), often called simply a heuristic, is any approach to problem
solving, learning, or discovery that employs a practical method not
guaranteed to be optimal or perfect, but sufficient for the immediate
goals. Where finding an optimal solution is impossible or impractical,
heuristic methods can be used to speed up the process of finding a
satisfactory solution. Heuristics can be mental shortcuts that ease the
cognitive load of making a decision. Examples of this method include
using a rule of thumb, an educated guess, an intuitive judgment,
guesstimate, stereotyping, profiling, or common sense.
 
 
Read here:
 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heuristic
 
 
And read also the following because it is important and it says:
 
1- Human brains, are intuition machines. Intuition is that parallel
cognitive process that we develop by learning using induction. Said
differently, we learn from experience. We can't just upload knowledge of
Kung Fu and instantly master the art. Humans require years of practice
 
 
2- Human cognition is a heuristic system that is heavily flawed but can
react and adapt extremely rapidly.
 
 
3- Computers are logic machines, computers have several orders of
magnitude more capable in performing logic than humans. A simple hand
calculator has more arithmetic intelligence than any human alive.
 
 
Read the following very interesting webpage to understand:
 
Are Biological Brains Made Of Only Discrete Logic?
 
https://medium.com/intuitionmachine/brains-are-intuition-machines-and-are-driven-by-discrete-computation-e210d2e03501
 
 
So from the above and from 2 above, that means since human cognition is
a "heuristic" system that is heavily flawed but can react and adapt
extremely rapidly, we can say that to be more "precision" and more
"logic" and more "calculations" and to be more "mathematical"
sophistication and more "sophistication", we human need softwares and we
need computers and we need internet and we need artificial intelligence etc.
 
 
 
Thank you,
Amine Moulay Ramdane.
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