Monday, April 3, 2023

Digest for comp.lang.c++@googlegroups.com - 9 updates in 2 topics

Anssi Saari <as@sci.fi>: Apr 03 10:11AM +0300


> I don't know what you are disagreeing about - I /have/ fast and easy
> access to the symbols used in common programming languages.
 
And that's where we disagree. AltGr with anything isn't fast or easy in
my opinion, it's good for those symbols used once a month or
thereabouts. I get you don't get it, moving on.
 
> the standard UK/US English layout on Windows, but not nearly as much
> as Linux. I would assume the Finnish layout is very similar to the
> Norwegian layout on both systems.
 
Seems reasonable. I guess I haven't really used other than US layout in
Linux. I can't avoid Windows+Orifice even though my real HW work is all
in Linux so the Windows Finnish layout is all I know.
 
What provides the keyboard layouts in Linux, is it X with xkbset or do
the various desktop environments provide their own?
James Kuyper <jameskuyper@alumni.caltech.edu>: Apr 03 11:30AM -0400

On 4/3/23 03:11, Anssi Saari wrote:
 
> And that's where we disagree. AltGr with anything isn't fast or easy in
> my opinion, it's good for those symbols used once a month or
> thereabouts. I get you don't get it, moving on.
 
According to the Wikipedia article on the AltGr key, it is usually
mapped to a key that's in the same place as the right 'Alt' on many US
keyboards, including my own.
That article indicates that the common keyboard setup in Norway uses
AltGr to display the following characters that I can type directly on my
US keyboard: @${[]}~'. Of those 9 characters, there's only two that I
can type without using the shift key. I just tried typing those
characters using my right 'Alt' key as if I had a Norwegian keyboard
set up. Except for 'AltGr'+'0' => '}', they weren't any harder to type
than the shift sequences I needed for those same characters on a US
keyboard.
What makes you feel that the 'AltGr' key is so difficult to use that it
should be used only once a month? Do you avoid using shifts, too?
scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal): Apr 03 04:11PM

>keyboard.
>What makes you feel that the 'AltGr' key is so difficult to use that it
>should be used only once a month? Do you avoid using shifts, too?
 
FWIW, one of the reasons I dislike camelcase is the need to use the
shift key too frequently, and I type fast enough that the shift
often sticks to the next keystroke which necessitates correction.
Paavo Helde <eesnimi@osa.pri.ee>: Apr 03 09:39PM +0300

03.04.2023 18:30 James Kuyper kirjutas:
> keyboard.
> What makes you feel that the 'AltGr' key is so difficult to use that it
> should be used only once a month? Do you avoid using shifts, too?
 
AltGr is on the same side of the keyboard as the most needed []{}\, so
two keys 4 rows apart need to be pressed at the same time with the same
hand. Can be done, but a bit cumbersome. Maybe it's just a habit thing.
 
Maybe it's different with Norwegian layout, they mentioned dead keys. On
Estonian keyboard AltGr is a modifier which is not a dead key, so needs
to be pressed simultaneously.
scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal): Apr 02 11:41PM


>> Can someone change below iterative code snippet to recursive call ?
 
>Why should anyone want to do that? In C++, iterative code is typically
>more efficient than recursive code. If it ain't broken, don't fix it.
 
My suspicion is that the OP is trying to get someone to do their homework.
scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal): Apr 02 11:46PM


>>Why should anyone want to do that? In C++, iterative code is typically
>>more efficient than recursive code. If it ain't broken, don't fix it.
 
>My suspicion is that the OP is trying to get someone to do their homework.
 
Particularly given the email domain which is from the Indian Institute of
Technology.
"Öö Tiib" <ootiib@hot.ee>: Apr 02 11:58PM -0700

On Monday, 3 April 2023 at 02:47:14 UTC+3, Scott Lurndal wrote:
 
> >My suspicion is that the OP is trying to get someone to do their homework.
> Particularly given the email domain which is from the Indian Institute of
> Technology.
 
Also its *Disclaimer* apparently asked to contact system manager of Indian
Institute of Technology on case the confidential information about
homework of Kunal Goswami that it contains leaked into Usenet
(or something like that).
Vir Campestris <vir.campestris@invalid.invalid>: Apr 03 12:27PM +0100

On 03/04/2023 07:58, Öö Tiib wrote:
> Institute of Technology on case the confidential information about
> homework of Kunal Goswami that it contains leaked into Usenet
> (or something like that).
 
It's tempting to contact them and point them to this thread...
 
Andy
Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net>: Apr 03 11:40AM

On 2023-04-03, Öö Tiib wrote:
> Institute of Technology on case the confidential information about
> homework of Kunal Goswami that it contains leaked into Usenet
> (or something like that).
 
I did always find those disclaimers slightly amusing, as in order to see
them in the first place, one needs to have the email "envelope"
addressed to them ...
 
 
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