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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Fri, Feb 5 2010 12:23 am
From: "Balog Pal"
"Ian Collins" <ian-news@hotmail.com> >> typedef enum MyEnum
>> {
>> enum1,
>> enum2
>> }
>>
>> what is the size of variable of type MyEnum in C++?
>
> sizeof(int).
No, the implementation can pick almost any integral type that can represent
all the enumerators and their OR. So here 1 would be good. Compilers may
have switch to force enums to a bigger size like a whole int.
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TOPIC: Motivation of software professionals
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== 1 of 17 ==
Date: Fri, Feb 5 2010 3:19 am
From: Stefan Kiryazov
Hi all,
I am doing a research about motivation in software development, the
most efficient practices to motivate software engineers, their
popularity, etc.
As a part of the research, I am doing an online survey for software
engineers and managers in software development. It takes just several
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Stefan Kiryazov
== 2 of 17 ==
Date: Fri, Feb 5 2010 4:23 am
From: Richard Cornford
On Feb 5, 11:19 am, Stefan Kiryazov wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> I am doing a research about motivation in software development,
> the most efficient practices to motivate software engineers,
> their popularity, etc.
Strange question; the most efficient motivator of professionals is
money, and money is very popular.
> As a part of the research, I am doing an online survey for
> software engineers and managers in software development.
<snip>
This would be more convincing as an academic exercise, as opposed to,
say, spam intended to encourage visitors to some web page with the
intention of gaining advertising revenue, if there were not so many
advertisements on the page.
In any event, your survey needs the addition of a large number of
"This question makes no sense" option checkboxes, as it is
unanswerable as it is.
Richard.
== 3 of 17 ==
Date: Fri, Feb 5 2010 4:26 am
From: "Jeff Gaines"
On 05/02/2010 in message
<dabc5b6d-f342-466a-a4b6-8e7034956bd4@a32g2000yqm.googlegroups.com> Stefan
Kiryazov wrote:
>I am doing a research about motivation in software development, the
>most efficient practices to motivate software engineers, their
>popularity, etc.
M O N E Y
--
Jeff Gaines Dorset UK
I can please only one person per day. Today is not your day.
Tomorrow, isn't looking good either.
== 4 of 17 ==
Date: Fri, Feb 5 2010 4:36 am
From: Erwin Moller
Stefan Kiryazov schreef:
> Hi all,
>
> I am doing a research about motivation in software development, the
> most efficient practices to motivate software engineers, their
> popularity, etc.
>
> As a part of the research, I am doing an online survey for software
> engineers and managers in software development. It takes just several
> minutes and filling it is a good opportunity to share your opinion
> about the motivation practices being used in the software industry
> today:
> http://ask.wizefish.com/en/MotivationSurvey.aspx
>
> Anyone who does the survey and leaves any contacts will be sent the
> results.
>
> Also, if someone is running a web site or blog dedicated to any aspect
> of software development we can do some link exchange.
>
> Regards,
> Stefan Kiryazov
I am in this business so I can fill in online questionaires.
Erwin Moller
--
"There are two ways of constructing a software design: One way is to
make it so simple that there are obviously no deficiencies, and the
other way is to make it so complicated that there are no obvious
deficiencies. The first method is far more difficult."
-- C.A.R. Hoare
== 5 of 17 ==
Date: Fri, Feb 5 2010 4:38 am
From: Mick
Stefan Kiryazov wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> I am doing a research about motivation in software development, the
> most efficient practices to motivate software engineers, their
> popularity, etc.
>
> As a part of the research, I am doing an online survey for software
> engineers and managers in software development. It takes just several
> minutes and filling it is a good opportunity to share your opinion
> about the motivation practices being used in the software industry
> today:
> http://ask.wizefish.com/en/MotivationSurvey.aspx
>
> Anyone who does the survey and leaves any contacts will be sent the
> results.
>
> Also, if someone is running a web site or blog dedicated to any aspect
> of software development we can do some link exchange.
>
> Regards,
> Stefan Kiryazov
Gotta pay the bills!
== 6 of 17 ==
Date: Fri, Feb 5 2010 4:39 am
From: Anthony Williams
Richard Cornford <Richard@litotes.demon.co.uk> writes:
> On Feb 5, 11:19 am, Stefan Kiryazov wrote:
>> Hi all,
>>
>> I am doing a research about motivation in software development,
>> the most efficient practices to motivate software engineers,
>> their popularity, etc.
>
> Strange question; the most efficient motivator of professionals is
> money, and money is very popular.
Whilst people like money, it's not necessary the most efficient
motivator. Developers also like interesting, challenging, varied work,
work with new technologies, flexible hours, freedom to do what they feel
is technically best without being hampered by management dictat and many
other things.
Anthony
--
Author of C++ Concurrency in Action http://www.stdthread.co.uk/book/
just::thread C++0x thread library http://www.stdthread.co.uk
Just Software Solutions Ltd http://www.justsoftwaresolutions.co.uk
15 Carrallack Mews, St Just, Cornwall, TR19 7UL, UK. Company No. 5478976
== 7 of 17 ==
Date: Fri, Feb 5 2010 5:55 am
From: "Balog Pal"
"Richard Cornford" <Richard@litotes.demon.co.uk>
>> I am doing a research about motivation in software development,
>> the most efficient practices to motivate software engineers,
>> their popularity, etc.
>
> Strange question; the most efficient motivator of professionals is
> money, and money is very popular.
Lack of money is a massive demorivator, but meeting some basics it is hardly
an efficient motivator, let alon the most...
== 8 of 17 ==
Date: Fri, Feb 5 2010 6:51 am
From: JR
On Feb 5, 9:19 am, Stefan Kiryazov <stefan.kirya...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> I am doing a research about motivation in software development, the
> most efficient practices to motivate software engineers, their
> popularity, etc.
>
> As a part of the research, I am doing an online survey for software
> engineers and managers in software development. It takes just several
> minutes and filling it is a good opportunity to share your opinion
> about the motivation practices being used in the software industry
> today:http://ask.wizefish.com/en/MotivationSurvey.aspx
>
> Anyone who does the survey and leaves any contacts will be sent the
> results.
>
> Also, if someone is running a web site or blog dedicated to any aspect
> of software development we can do some link exchange.
I suggest reading about the "Two Factor theory of emotion", also known
as "Herzberg's motivation-hygiene theory". I studied this concept in
1984 for the first time, and I think it is still acceptable today.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Two-factor_theory
Cheers,
JR
== 9 of 17 ==
Date: Fri, Feb 5 2010 6:58 am
From: "John B. Matthews"
In article
<dabc5b6d-f342-466a-a4b6-8e7034956bd4@a32g2000yqm.googlegroups.com>,
Stefan Kiryazov <stefan.kiryazov@gmail.com> wrote:
> I am doing a research about motivation in software development, the
> most efficient practices to motivate software engineers, their
> popularity, etc.
[...]
This reminds me of "Drescher and the toaster":
A disciple of another sect once came to Drescher as he was
eating his morning meal.
"I would like to give you this personality test", said the
outsider, "because I want you to be happy."
Drescher took the paper that was offered him and put it into
the toaster, saying: "I wish the toaster to be happy, too."
<http://catb.org/jargon/html/koans.html#id3141308>
--
John B. Matthews
trashgod at gmail dot com
<http://sites.google.com/site/drjohnbmatthews>
== 10 of 17 ==
Date: Fri, Feb 5 2010 7:10 am
From: John Bode
On Feb 5, 6:39 am, Anthony Williams <anthony....@gmail.com> wrote:
> Richard Cornford <Rich...@litotes.demon.co.uk> writes:
> > On Feb 5, 11:19 am, Stefan Kiryazov wrote:
> >> Hi all,
>
> >> I am doing a research about motivation in software development,
> >> the most efficient practices to motivate software engineers,
> >> their popularity, etc.
>
> > Strange question; the most efficient motivator of professionals is
> > money, and money is very popular.
>
> Whilst people like money, it's not necessary the most efficient
> motivator. Developers also like interesting, challenging, varied work,
> work with new technologies, flexible hours, freedom to do what they feel
> is technically best without being hampered by management dictat and many
> other things.
>
This is definitely true for me; I will trade some pay for more
interesting work or a better working environment, at least up to a
point.
== 11 of 17 ==
Date: Fri, Feb 5 2010 7:14 am
From: Patricia Shanahan
Stefan Kiryazov wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> I am doing a research about motivation in software development, the
> most efficient practices to motivate software engineers, their
> popularity, etc.
...
I don't qualify as a software professional now, but I did work in the
computer industry for 32 years.
In my experience, software professionals are people, each with their own
motivations. Assuming everyone has the same motivations is a basic
leadership error.
That said, by definition professionals are, to some extent, in it for
the money. If they were not, they would be amateurs as I am now. How
that is balanced against interesting work, physical working conditions,
status, etc. varies.
Patricia
== 12 of 17 ==
Date: Fri, Feb 5 2010 7:37 am
From: Wojtek
Patricia Shanahan wrote :
> Stefan Kiryazov wrote:
>> Hi all,
>>
>> I am doing a research about motivation in software development, the
>> most efficient practices to motivate software engineers, their
>> popularity, etc.
> ...
>
> I don't qualify as a software professional now, but I did work in the
> computer industry for 32 years.
>
> In my experience, software professionals are people, each with their own
> motivations. Assuming everyone has the same motivations is a basic
> leadership error.
>
> That said, by definition professionals are, to some extent, in it for
> the money. If they were not, they would be amateurs as I am now. How
> that is balanced against interesting work, physical working conditions,
> status, etc. varies.
Hmmm, I have seen "professionals" who should be escorted out by
security. And then people who do it for personal satisfaction who
produce excellent code.
The FOSS movement has a mix of these two groups.
Being a professional is a state of mind rather than renumeration.
But yes, I like to eat too....
--
Wojtek :-)
== 13 of 17 ==
Date: Fri, Feb 5 2010 7:39 am
From: Walter Banks
Stefan Kiryazov wrote:
> I am doing a research about motivation in software development, the
> most efficient practices to motivate software engineers, their
> popularity, etc.
Watching it all come together in a project after 40 years still
has the same excitement. I resigned from a good job 30 years
ago to program again as a career telling colleges at the time
that I may never work again but I am playing 50 or 60 hours
a week at something I love to do.
Regards,
w..
--
Walter Banks
Byte Craft Limited
http://www.bytecraft.com
== 14 of 17 ==
Date: Fri, Feb 5 2010 7:44 am
From: "BGB / cr88192"
"Anthony Williams" <anthony.ajw@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:87ljf76emt.fsf@dell.justsoftwaresolutions.co.uk...
> Richard Cornford <Richard@litotes.demon.co.uk> writes:
>
>> On Feb 5, 11:19 am, Stefan Kiryazov wrote:
>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>> I am doing a research about motivation in software development,
>>> the most efficient practices to motivate software engineers,
>>> their popularity, etc.
>>
>> Strange question; the most efficient motivator of professionals is
>> money, and money is very popular.
>
> Whilst people like money, it's not necessary the most efficient
> motivator. Developers also like interesting, challenging, varied work,
> work with new technologies, flexible hours, freedom to do what they feel
> is technically best without being hampered by management dictat and many
> other things.
>
OTOH, many programmers may also despise anything "new" or "different", or
anything which may effect "the way things usually are".
give them something new, and they will resist, like "this is not how I
usually do things", ...
it would be like, in a college, them adding soap dispensers all over the
walls in the hallways.
then, this is unsettling, since it is well known that soap dispensers are
properly placed in the bathrooms, and so what are they doing in the
hallways?...
likewise, many may like a well-defined heirarchy of authority,
strong-seeming authority figures, and the sense of "excitement" over the
volumes of work being produced (measurable via metrics like money, units
sold, kloc written, completing various items on various agendas, ...), ...
and, granted, other people may not like this...
they might dislike, for example, being expected to stand and greet the boss
whenever he enters the room, waiting for him either to say something
relevant or to tell them all to carry on, ...
other people may also not like attending meetings for the sake of debating
over agenda items, deciding on matters of policy, ...
so, it may all depend a lot on the person (and/or, the personality types of
the people involved...).
== 15 of 17 ==
Date: Fri, Feb 5 2010 7:52 am
From: MarkusSchaber
On 5 Feb., 13:23, Richard Cornford <Rich...@litotes.demon.co.uk>
wrote:
> On Feb 5, 11:19 am, Stefan Kiryazov wrote:
>
> > Hi all,
>
> > I am doing a research about motivation in software development,
> > the most efficient practices to motivate software engineers,
> > their popularity, etc.
>
> Strange question; the most efficient motivator of professionals is
> money, [...]
This was proven wrong by Science. Read Bruce Eckels excellent blog
entries about this topic, he always references relliable sources on
this subject.
== 16 of 17 ==
Date: Fri, Feb 5 2010 8:21 am
From: Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn
Richard Cornford wrote:
> On Feb 5, 11:19 am, Stefan Kiryazov wrote:
>> I am doing a research about motivation in software development,
>> the most efficient practices to motivate software engineers,
>> their popularity, etc.
>
> Strange question; the most efficient motivator of professionals is
> money, and money is very popular.
That would mean that the more you are paid, the more motivated you are,
which is obviously wrong. Money is only part of the equation. Money is a
factor of motivation in capitalism only because of the things that money can
buy, and which it means to others. But those things can be gained without
money as well, so you would probably be equally motivated if someone
provides them for work you have done. See, e.g., Maslow's hierarchy of
needs.
F'up2 poster
PointedEars
--
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&& navigator.userAgent.indexOf('Mac') != -1
) // Plone, register_function.js:16
== 17 of 17 ==
Date: Fri, Feb 5 2010 8:44 am
From: Tom Anderson
On Fri, 5 Feb 2010, Richard Cornford wrote:
> On Feb 5, 11:19 am, Stefan Kiryazov wrote:
>
>> I am doing a research about motivation in software development,
>> the most efficient practices to motivate software engineers,
>> their popularity, etc.
>
> Strange question; the most efficient motivator of professionals is
> money, and money is very popular.
There's a robust body of work that suggests this is very much *not* the
case. Money motivates some people; technical people are more motivated by
interesting work and respect from their colleagues.
tom
--
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woman who is both attractive and weird.
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Fri, Feb 5 2010 7:24 am
From: Rune Allnor
Hi all.
I have a template class where I have defined some
constants in a header file, along the lines of
////////////////////////////////////////////
class flags{
static const size_t flag;
};
const size_t flags::flag = 1;
////////////////////////////////////////////
This compiles and runs nicely in the Boost.Test program,
but when I try to use the template class in a Qt GUI program,
the linker starts complaining about the constants as being
multiple defined objects:
- in main.obj
- in moc_myfile.obj
- in myfile.obj
I have included the standard guard about multiple inclucions
of the header files, and I can see why these constants would
appear in myfile.obj, as I include the file where they are declared
from myfile.h. However, I have no idea why the constants should
be available in main.obj or moc-myfile.obj - that's where Qt come
in to do its thing.
There isn't much I can do about the ways Qt twists and turns
the code into an executable, so I suppose my only hope
is to be able to resolve the 'multiple definition' problem.
Any hints on how to do this?
The flags class will exist in millions of instances, so I can not
afford to include the flag definintions as const variables in the
class.
Rune
== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Fri, Feb 5 2010 7:51 am
From: Victor Bazarov
Rune Allnor wrote:
> I have a template class where I have defined some
> constants in a header file,
*Never* define your static data that you might want to link to, in a
header. *Always* define them in *one of the source files*. As soon as
you do that, your linker problems will disappear.
Const or no const plays no role here.
> along the lines of
> [..]
V
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