- Is Microsoft Windows secretly downloading childporn to your computer ?! - 12 Updates
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| Steve Hayes <hayesstw@telkomsa.net>: Dec 03 06:21AM +0200 On Wed, 2 Dec 2015 15:20:13 +0000 (UTC), Grant Edwards >the top of the diagram, and embedded devices that can't access the >internet directly are at the bottom with my PC somewhere in the >middle. In my usage it all has to do with sending and receiving, like immigration and emigration. I UPload photos from my cell phone to Facebook. I DOWNload photos from my cell phone to my desktop computer. -- Steve Hayes from Tshwane, South Africa Web: http://www.khanya.org.za/stevesig.htm Blog: http://khanya.wordpress.com E-mail - see web page, or parse: shayes at dunelm full stop org full stop uk |
| Steve Hayes <hayesstw@telkomsa.net>: Dec 03 07:43AM +0200 On Thu, 03 Dec 2015 06:21:45 +0200, Steve Hayes >immigration and emigration. >I UPload photos from my cell phone to Facebook. >I DOWNload photos from my cell phone to my desktop computer. To which I will add that uploading is sending, and downloading is fetching. So saying that Microsoft downloaded something to my computer is like saying that someone fetched me a ltter when they actually sent it. -- Steve Hayes from Tshwane, South Africa Web: http://www.khanya.org.za/stevesig.htm Blog: http://khanya.wordpress.com E-mail - see web page, or parse: shayes at dunelm full stop org full stop uk |
| Chris in Makati <mail@nospam.com>: Dec 03 02:24PM +0800 On Wed, 2 Dec 2015 08:57:44 +0000 (UTC), Juha Nieminen >It's a matter of perspective. If a hacker breaks into your computer and >starts a download from somewhere else into your computer, isn't the hacker >"downloading" things to your computer? Does it matter? As far as the law is concerned, it is possession of child porn that's illegal. How it got there is irrelevant. |
| David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no>: Dec 03 10:00AM +0100 On 03/12/15 07:24, Chris in Makati wrote: >> "downloading" things to your computer? > Does it matter? As far as the law is concerned, it is possession of > child porn that's illegal. How it got there is irrelevant. You are posting to a wide range of international newsgroups (with this thread being way off-topic for all of them...). It makes no sense to talk about "the law", because this is not something covered by /international/ law. What counts as "child porn", what counts as "possession", how relevant intention, knowledge, etc., is, varies enormously from country to country. Even if the OP is telling the truth (and if Skybuck said that grass is green, I'd recommend going outside to check), and he gets caught with this stuff on his machine, punishments can vary from "it's fine as long as you don't distribute it" to "25 years for each picture, to be served consecutively". |
| Juha Nieminen <nospam@thanks.invalid>: Dec 03 09:12AM > Turns out that its okay, and part of Microsoft trying to get me to download > Win10. > What a piece of shi% move on their part. As%holes! Yeah. How dare they offer an upgrade for free. They should be ashamed of themselves. --- news://freenews.netfront.net/ - complaints: news@netfront.net --- |
| Juha Nieminen <nospam@thanks.invalid>: Dec 03 09:16AM >>"downloading" things to your computer? > Does it matter? As far as the law is concerned, it is possession of > child porn that's illegal. How it got there is irrelevant. Most judiciary systems are not robots following a narrow set of instructions. If they determine that it wasn't your fault, they will not punish the innocent. Besides, how would they even know what's in your computer? --- news://freenews.netfront.net/ - complaints: news@netfront.net --- |
| seeplus <gizmomaker@bigpond.com>: Dec 03 02:10AM -0800 On Thursday, December 3, 2015 at 8:16:41 PM UTC+11, Juha Nieminen wrote: > In comp.lang.c++ Chris in Makati <XXXXXXX> wrote: > Besides, how would they even know what's in your computer? > --- news://freenews.netfront.net/ - complaints: XXXXXXXX.net --- If you DO just happen to have any porn... or any other political, anti social, kids in the bath, graphics on your computer, MS will now be able to check and report on just about EVERY Win computer in existence (they are retrofitting back to W7), using their PhotoDNA hash app. And send the law to your place if it looks dubious. They already use this on One Drive etc and Google use it on their social sites. It does not even allow nudity on One Drive. |
| "Chris M. Thomasson" <nospam@nospam.nospam>: Dec 03 01:13PM -0800 > > What a piece of shi% move on their part. As%holes! > Yeah. How dare they offer an upgrade for free. They should be ashamed > of themselves. The problem is that the icon freaked me out for I instantly thought I had a virus. The fact that I can get Win10 for free is pretty nice. |
| "Chris M. Thomasson" <nospam@nospam.nospam>: Dec 03 01:15PM -0800 > "Chris M. Thomasson" wrote in message > news:n3qb9r$eep$1@speranza.aioe.org... [...] > The problem is that the icon freaked me out for I instantly thought I had > a virus. > The fact that I can get Win10 for free is pretty nice. BTW, do you know how to get the damn annoying icon off the screen for good? I am not sure I want Win10 yet. I am missing an option to get rid of that little shi%! |
| JiiPee <no@notvalid.com>: Dec 03 09:45PM On 03/12/2015 09:12, Juha Nieminen wrote: >> What a piece of shi% move on their part. As%holes! > Yeah. How dare they offer an upgrade for free. They should be ashamed > of themselves. and how do they dare to offer the full Visual Studio Community for free as well... |
| Vir Campestris <vir.campestris@invalid.invalid>: Dec 03 09:48PM On 03/12/2015 21:15, Chris M. Thomasson wrote: > BTW, do you know how to get the damn annoying icon off the screen for good? > I am not sure I want Win10 yet. I am missing an option to get rid of > that little shi%! There are a couple of windows updates you have to remove. ICBA to look up which ones - I just rejected them as they came. I have no intention to update this machine. OTOH I have a new laptop that has Win10 (with all the privacy settings on!) and I'm quite happy with that. Andy |
| seeplus <gizmomaker@bigpond.com>: Dec 03 03:17PM -0800 On Friday, December 4, 2015 at 8:45:57 AM UTC+11, JiiPee wrote: > > of themselves. > and how do they dare to offer the full Visual Studio Community for free > as well... Did you notice that it HAD to be linked to an MS account? Their "gratis" softwares eg W10 are trojanlike. MS will make much more $$ from their upcoming metrics gathering than they have ever spent/made on developing and selling SW. They are very happy to "give" it to you. Of course you can no longer get rid of annoying Bing. You can drill down and turn it to "OFF". If you turn off Defender... they will auto turn it back on. But we are hackers. There are 200 million others out there accepting the defaults. 6 months ago the fact that 2 simple lines of targeted text which appeared next to my search results seemed amusing, and my props to the programmers. NOW if I search anything like a C++ term .... I get e.g. a Sharper ad that takes most of the screen, and with a 2 pixel unfindable X close button. I already purchased Sharper a year ago. |
| Robert Wessel <robertwessel2@yahoo.com>: Dec 03 01:55AM -0600 On Wed, 02 Dec 2015 19:01:19 GMT, scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) wrote: >a flavor of ALGOL (called NEWP)). >[*] e.g. JOVIAL, CORAL 66, PL/1, REXX, et alia >https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Generational_list_of_programming_languages That sort of stat keeps popping up, and is clearly bogus. There are probably on the order of 15 million programmers in the world, and the highest estimates of programmers working in Cobol run to about a million. And of course most programmers often write code in something other than their primary language, even if just for scripting purposes. And assuming that we have 50 years of accumulated effort by those million Cobol programmers (and unrealistically all of their work is actually in Cobol), to get to at least 21% (80% is often claimed), the other 14 million would have to labor about 11 *months*. For 51%, it's something like four years. Obviously the longevity of code and productivity need to be factored in, but the difference is so large that they won't make a meaningful difference. This statistic is often told as '80% of active code" or "80 percent of the worlds data" or something like that. One of those might have been true in 1980, but now it's just BS. |
| Vir Campestris <vir.campestris@invalid.invalid>: Dec 03 09:03PM On 02/12/2015 19:01, Scott Lurndal wrote: > There was very little assembler written > for production purposes after about 1975. That date seems a bit early. I was producing a lot of assembler for maybe 15 or even 20 years after that. Though I suppose it depends on what you mean by production too - this was OS internals, device drivers, H/W test code and such. I'm mostly working on ARM systems these days, and it still annoys me that I can't really understand the assembly language. Not enough to go and learn it though... Andy |
| scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal): Dec 03 09:10PM >maybe 15 or even 20 years after that. Though I suppose it depends on >what you mean by production too - this was OS internals, device drivers, >H/W test code and such. Indeed, that is where there still is some machine level programming going on. However, by 1966 most applications were written using COBOL and FORTRAN. >I'm mostly working on ARM systems these days, and it still annoys me >that I can't really understand the assembly language. Not enough to go >and learn it though... Just wait until you try the ARMv8 version - they've simplified things a bit from the ARMv7 (no more predicated instructions, no Thumb and no Jazelle for example). scott |
| Lynn McGuire <lmc@winsim.com>: Dec 03 03:42PM -0600 On 12/3/2015 3:10 PM, Scott Lurndal wrote: > a bit from the ARMv7 (no more predicated instructions, no Thumb and > no Jazelle for example). > scott Ok, now you are scaring me. Thumb and Jazelle instructions? http://www.keil.com/support/man/docs/armasm/armasm_dom1359731126163.htm https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jazelle Lynn |
| Vir Campestris <vir.campestris@invalid.invalid>: Dec 03 09:45PM On 03/12/2015 21:10, Scott Lurndal wrote: > Just wait until you try the ARMv8 version - they've simplified things > a bit from the ARMv7 (no more predicated instructions, no Thumb and > no Jazelle for example). We've got some little chips, so Thumb (Thumb2) is firmly on the radar. I've never had to decode it though. Jazelle I hadn't heard of, and I guess has been killed by precompiling the Java. Andy |
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