Friday, June 21, 2019

Digest for comp.lang.c++@googlegroups.com - 25 updates in 4 topics

G G <gdotone@gmail.com>: Jun 21 02:37PM -0700

> it evident that the type will not be used anywhere else in the
> program.
 
> That reasoning doesn't apply in C++, because of decltype.
 
but then too isn't it, well for the situation you gave, a plus in C++,
cause of objects, data members and member functions could be made private.
rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com: Jun 21 11:58AM -0700

From Fox News:
 
https://www.foxnews.com/science/city-gate-from-time-of-king-david-discovered-israel
 
A dig related to Biblical history and King David.
 
--
Rick C. Hodgin
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Mr Flibble <flibbleREMOVETHISBIT@i42.co.uk>: Jun 21 10:13PM +0100

> From Fox News:
 
> https://www.foxnews.com/science/city-gate-from-time-of-king-david-discovered-israel
 
> A dig related to Biblical history and King David.
 
I see no "Biblical proof". Digging something up from the time when King
David supposedly existed is not in and of itself proof that King David
actually existed. The lineage of the Biblical King David can be traced all
the way back to Adam and as we know Adam never existed (humans evolved,
fact) it follows that the Biblical King David also never existed. There
may have been an individual going by the moniker of "King David" at some
point in history but that would be a different individual to the Biblical
King David. And, of course, the same applies to the Biblical Jesus Christ
who also never actually existed.
 
/Flibble
 
--
"Snakes didn't evolve, instead talking snakes with legs changed into
snakes." - Rick C. Hodgin
 
"You won't burn in hell. But be nice anyway." – Ricky Gervais
 
"I see Atheists are fighting and killing each other again, over who
doesn't believe in any God the most. Oh, no..wait.. that never happens." –
Ricky Gervais
 
"Suppose it's all true, and you walk up to the pearly gates, and are
confronted by God," Bryne asked on his show The Meaning of Life. "What
will Stephen Fry say to him, her, or it?"
"I'd say, bone cancer in children? What's that about?" Fry replied.
"How dare you? How dare you create a world to which there is such misery
that is not our fault. It's not right, it's utterly, utterly evil."
"Why should I respect a capricious, mean-minded, stupid God who creates a
world that is so full of injustice and pain. That's what I would say."
rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com: Jun 20 04:26PM -0700

On Thursday, June 20, 2019 at 6:39:14 PM UTC-4, Mr Flibble wrote:
> ill-conceived conjecture wrapped up in pseudo-scientific nonsense, to know
> for a fact that what they believe is actually true. You are destroying
> people's faith, fake Christian. You are a traitor to your kind.
 
 
Many people in these groups I post in will say the same thing as
I indicated above to Ian, Leigh. I've posted the way to salvation
through Christ. Believe, repent, ask forgiveness. I've provided
evidence showing where the narrative given us by leading education
providers is wrong. I've shown you how complex DNA is and that it
completely removes any possibility of evolution being a thing.
 
I've told you all everything you need to know to be saved.
 
Today God gives us the opportunity to be saved easily. That offer
will continue until the rapture. After that it will be much harder
to be saved. You'll have to go through the tribulation, and likely
give your life for your faith (being killed for it).
 
--
Rick C. Hodgin
Mr Flibble <flibbleREMOVETHISBIT@i42.co.uk>: Jun 21 12:39AM +0100

> will continue until the rapture. After that it will be much harder
> to be saved. You'll have to go through the tribulation, and likely
> give your life for your faith (being killed for it).
 
Preaching your so called "evidence" is an attempt to destroy faith; why
can't you understand this simple fact? Do you even accept that there is no
need for faith if there is evidence? You really are a demented fucktard.
 
/Flibble
 
--
"Snakes didn't evolve, instead talking snakes with legs changed into
snakes." - Rick C. Hodgin
 
"You won't burn in hell. But be nice anyway." – Ricky Gervais
 
"I see Atheists are fighting and killing each other again, over who
doesn't believe in any God the most. Oh, no..wait.. that never happens." –
Ricky Gervais
 
"Suppose it's all true, and you walk up to the pearly gates, and are
confronted by God," Bryne asked on his show The Meaning of Life. "What
will Stephen Fry say to him, her, or it?"
"I'd say, bone cancer in children? What's that about?" Fry replied.
"How dare you? How dare you create a world to which there is such misery
that is not our fault. It's not right, it's utterly, utterly evil."
"Why should I respect a capricious, mean-minded, stupid God who creates a
world that is so full of injustice and pain. That's what I would say."
rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com: Jun 20 05:44PM -0700

On Thursday, June 20, 2019 at 7:39:30 PM UTC-4, Mr Flibble wrote:
 
> Preaching your so called "evidence" is an attempt to destroy faith; why
> can't you understand this simple fact? Do you even accept that there is no
> need for faith if there is evidence?
 
 
The evidence is for you, Leigh, to demonstrate that what you're
holding on today is not based on truth, but is part of the lie
designed to deceive you.
 
The evidence removes your ability to believe in what you are today
believing in. It forces you to look elsewhere, to seek out the
truth. It forces you to ask the big questions you are suppressing
today behind your "And Satan invented fossils" shield.
 
Now that you know dinosaurs walked with man, that argument falls
apart. If that thing you believed in so precisely falls apart,
what other beliefs you've held on to are also false, even though
they seemed so true and solid previously?
 
You'll find that nearly everything you've believed in here in this
world has been a deception in one way or another. The new spirit
nature reveals to you those things your flesh alone could not know.
 
I hope you come to recognize this, Leigh, because you are a beautiful
creation of God that He desires with fullest desire to see redeemed.
 
--
Rick C. Hodgin
Daniel <danielaparker@gmail.com>: Jun 20 06:55PM -0700


> Jesus CURES people of homosexuality every day.
 
You mean like President Rodrigo Duterte of the Philippines? But he said he
cured himself :-)
 
Actually, "do onto others ..." implies acceptance of homosexuality, I don't
think it's a coincidence that acceptance of homosexuality today is most
prevalent in countries that have Christian traditions + enlightenment. One
way of viewing Christianity is as a departure from the ancient legal codes,
and a basis for morality less dependent on the law.
 
Best regards,
Daniel
Mr Flibble <flibbleREMOVETHISBIT@i42.co.uk>: Jun 21 07:59AM +0100

> nature reveals to you those things your flesh alone could not know.
 
> I hope you come to recognize this, Leigh, because you are a beautiful
> creation of God that He desires with fullest desire to see redeemed.
 
There is no evidence that dinosaurs walked with man but there is plenty of
evidence to the contrary you crazy fuck. The only evidence you have shown
is the evidence that you are a deluded idiot.
 
And Satan invented fossils, yes?
 
/Flibble
 
--
"Snakes didn't evolve, instead talking snakes with legs changed into
snakes." - Rick C. Hodgin
 
"You won't burn in hell. But be nice anyway." – Ricky Gervais
 
"I see Atheists are fighting and killing each other again, over who
doesn't believe in any God the most. Oh, no..wait.. that never happens." –
Ricky Gervais
 
"Suppose it's all true, and you walk up to the pearly gates, and are
confronted by God," Bryne asked on his show The Meaning of Life. "What
will Stephen Fry say to him, her, or it?"
"I'd say, bone cancer in children? What's that about?" Fry replied.
"How dare you? How dare you create a world to which there is such misery
that is not our fault. It's not right, it's utterly, utterly evil."
"Why should I respect a capricious, mean-minded, stupid God who creates a
world that is so full of injustice and pain. That's what I would say."
David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no>: Jun 21 09:38AM +0200

On 21/06/2019 00:11, Ian Collins wrote:
>> Please don't add to the noise level by arguing with him in the
>> newsgroup.
 
> Hate speech need to be confronted no matter where it appears.
 
I agree, and have posted against it for the same reason. It does not
matter whether we are directly affected by the hate speech or not - we
should not stand by and let people see that c.l.c++ is a community where
hate speech or prejudice is acceptable.
 
Having said that, there is little point in posting further in
"discussions" with Rick. Every humane or rational post elicits at least
one new crackpot one. You can't argue logically with someone whose
axioms are so out of kilter with reality, and which are self
contradictory. (I have made that futile mistake often enough - too
often - myself.)
 
It is a sad but true fact that no one has figured out a cure for people
like Rick in newsgroups. It is the cost of any free and open society -
there are always people who want to abuse that freedom and openness to
restrict and control people, or merely to annoy them. Keith's
preference of ignoring such off-topic posts is ineffectual - but so are
all alternatives.
 
Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk>: Jun 21 10:47AM +0100

>>> newsgroup.
 
>> Hate speech need to be confronted no matter where it appears.
 
> I agree, and have posted against it for the same reason.
 
So do I. But...
 
> Having said that, there is little point in posting further in
> "discussions" with Rick.
 
This is key, I think. Whilst one may need more than a single post to
register an effective objection ("Stop being a prat.", "How am I being a
prat?", "Because you said this, this and this."), one should then stop.
 
In addition, I don't always feel the need to object if someone else has
already done so. This is not ideal, since communities are based on
shared values, but sometimes I feel that agreement can be widely assumed
to exist.
 
And finally, if I remember, I'd mark any such reply with "[OT]" in the
subject. That enables anyone who prefers the filter option to do so
effectively.
 
This strategy (consider if you need to add your voice, make your point
but don't discuss it, mark the posts as off-topic), should I think,
prevent the RCH's of the world from killing what's left of Usenet.
 
--
Ben.
rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com: Jun 21 05:13AM -0700

On Friday, June 21, 2019 at 2:59:42 AM UTC-4, Mr Flibble wrote:
> There is no evidence that dinosaurs walked with man but there is plenty of
> evidence to the contrary you crazy fuck. The only evidence you have shown
> is the evidence that you are a deluded idiot.
 
There are hundreds of examples in this video, including carvings
etched into buildings 2500 years ago, Emperors who had positions
on their staff related to dinosaurs, the symbols in multiple cultures
of the dinosaur (called "dragon" in the past, as the term dinosaur
wasn't invented until the 1800s), pieces of pottery with dinosaurs
on them, hieroglyphic symbols which are dinosaurs, stones with diff-
erent kinds of dinosaurs on them, including some that had been do-
mesticated, and some that were killing people, burial cloths found
with colorful patterns on them which show what dinosaur skin looked
like, ancient recipes which call for various ingredients from dino-
saurs, stories of how they were defeated by great warriors, stories
of how they were defeated in unexpected ways (pulling the arms off
a T. Rex, for example, and they bleed to death), and much more.
 
It's all in the video.
 
Dinosaurs in the Bible
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YrkYDzILgtA
 
The only question is whether or not YOU want to know the truth, or
if you are content to believe the lie. It is that which separates
the saved from the damned, Leigh. All people who seek the truth
with an active passion and deliberate focus will be saved, because
God Himself will see them seeking the truth, and He Himself will
draw that person to the truth, to His Son, from within.
 
You have been given so much evidence that what you believe in is
false. Why won't you consider it? It doesn't come solely from
Biblical sources. There are countless secular sources as well,
from newspaper articles, to local legends, to hand renderings of
things people saw, from groups of people recounting what they saw,
and more.
 
It is truly a fool who will not examine the evidence, and consider
the possibility that what they think they know today is wrong.
 
--
Rick C. Hodgin
rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com: Jun 21 05:28AM -0700

On Thursday, June 20, 2019 at 9:55:28 PM UTC-4, Daniel wrote:
> + enlightenment. One way of viewing Christianity is as a departure
> from the ancient legal codes, and a basis for morality less dependent
> on the law.
 
What does the Bible say about homosexuality in the New Testament (the
age we're under presently)?
 
https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=1+Corinthians+6%3A9-10%2C+1+Timothy+1%3A8-10%2C+Jude+1%3A7%2C+Romans+1%3A26-28%2C+Colossians+3%3A5-11&version=NIV;KJV
 
9 Or do you not know that wrongdoers will not inherit the
kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: Neither the sexually
immoral nor idolaters nor adulterers
 
nor men who have sex with men[a]
 
10 nor thieves nor the greedy nor drunkards nor slanderers
nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God.
 
Footnotes:
[a] 1 Corinthians 6:9 The words men who have sex with men
translate two Greek words that refer to the passive
and active participants in homosexual acts.
 
And there are other verses going back to Sodom and Gomorrah's de-
struction, and how those places were destroyed as a warning to all
future generations, destroyed BEFORE the day of judgment to drive
home the point of just how serious God is about this.
 
-----
Non homosexual who is not in repentance of their homosexuality in
subjection to Jesus, will enter into Heaven. Homosexuality is an
ongoing sin listed among other such sins as adultery, thieves,
swindlers, etc., that separates a person from God.
 
There is no acceptance of homosexuality in Christianity.
 
That does not mean we don't love the homosexual and reach out to
them and help them and teach them and guide them and provide for
their personal needs, but it also doesn't mean we tacitly accept
their homosexuality as being okay. We are required, mandated, by
God, to teach them the truth, THAT HOMOSEXUALITY IS A SIN GOD WILL
JUDGE ON JUDGMENT DAY, AND IT IS A SIN THAT WILL SEE A SOUL CAST
INTO ETERNAL HELLFIRE ... LITERALLY FOREVER BURNING ALIVE.
 
Christians warn people of these things, teaching them why God has
set aside a day for judging all flesh. It is not us hating people.
IT IS US LOVING PEOPLE that we are willing to teach them the truth!
 
It would truly be hate if we did not warn people of God's judgment,
as even this famous atheist realizes:
 
Penn Jillette on Evangelism
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZPe3NGgzYQ0
 
"I've always said that I don't respect people who don't
proselytize. I don't respect that at all. If you believe
that there's a Heaven and a Hell, and people could be go-
ing to Hell or not getting eternal life, and you think that
it's not really worth telling them this because it would
make it socially awkward -- and atheists will think people
shouldn't proselytize and say just leave me along and keep
your religion to yourself -- how much do you have to hate
somebody to not proselytize? How much do you have to hate
somebody to believe everlasting life is possible and not
tell them that?
 
"I mean, if I believed beyond the shadow of a doubt that a
truck was coming at you, and you didn't believe that truck
was bearing down on you there is a certain point where I
tackle you. And this is more important than that."
 
--
Rick C. Hodgin
rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com: Jun 21 05:41AM -0700

On Friday, June 21, 2019 at 5:47:59 AM UTC-4, Ben Bacarisse wrote:
> [snip]
 
 
God will save you too, Ben. Do you have sin? Do you need to be
forgiven? Jesus wants to forgive each of us for our sin. He calls
out to us asking us to ask Him to save us.
 
There is a path to salvation in understanding who we are, and who
God is, and why He did what He did for us at the cross. It is
called "The Romans Road To Salvation" and is so-named because there
are verses of scripture in the book of Romans which lay out the full
path of our guilt, to our salvation through Jesus Christ:
 
https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Romans+3%3A10-12%2C+23%2C+6%3A23%2C+5%3A8%2C+10%3A9-10%2C+13%2C+5%3A1%2C+8%3A1%2C+8%3A38-39&version=NIV;KJV
 
Romans 3:10-12 King James Version (KJV)
10 As it is written, There is none righteous, no, not one:
11 There is none that understandeth, there is none that
seeketh after God.
12 They are all gone out of the way, they are together become
unprofitable; there is none that doeth good, no, not one.
 
Romans 3:23 King James Version (KJV)
23 For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God;
 
Romans 6:23 King James Version (KJV)
23 For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is
eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord.
 
Romans 5:8 King James Version (KJV)
8 But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we
were yet sinners, Christ died for us.
 
Romans 10:9-10 King James Version (KJV)
9 That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus,
and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him
from the dead, thou shalt be saved.
10 For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and
with the mouth confession is made unto salvation.
 
Romans 10:13 King James Version (KJV)
13 For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall
be saved.
 
Romans 5:1 King James Version (KJV)
5 Therefore being justified by faith, we have peace with God
through our Lord Jesus Christ:
 
Romans 8:1 King James Version (KJV)
8 There is therefore now no condemnation to them which are
in Christ Jesus, who walk not after the flesh, but after
the Spirit.
 
Romans 8:38-39 King James Version (KJV)
38 For I am persuaded, that neither death, nor life, nor
angels, nor principalities, nor powers, nor things present,
nor things to come,
39 Nor height, nor depth, nor any other creature, shall be able
to separate us from the love of God, which is in Christ Jesus
our Lord.
 
If you read through those verses, it takes you through the knowledge
each of us need to understand why we need Jesus. Only Jesus is able
to take away our sin from us, to cleanse us of all unrighteousness,
and it's exactly because of what He did at the cross, dying in our
place, a substitutional sacrifice. He pays the price of our sin,
setting us free. And it was His good pleasure and loving gift to
do this for us considering what was at stake (eternity in Hell, and
a human soul being lost forever).
 
-----
You think these posts are off-topic, destroying Usenet, or in some
way hurtful, harmful, even hate speech.
 
On the day of judgment, all who did not accept Jesus Christ, all
who are facing THE TOTAL AND COMPLETE END OF THEM will then view
these posts differently. They will long with greatest longing to
be able to go back to the Earth for one moment to see these posts
again and repent and ask forgiveness ... but it will be too late.
 
God's judgment is final, and He's already told us in advance what
He will judge:
 
https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=1%20Corinthians%206%3A9-10%2C%201%20Timothy%201%3A8-10%2C%20Jude%201%3A7%2C%20Romans%201%3A26-28%2C%20Colossians%203%3A5-11&version=NIV%3BKJV
 
And there is more than that He judges. We learn what it is by our
studying the Bible. God has given us a written word, having given
us the knowledge we need to overcome all things.
 
Put your trust in Jesus, Ben, and live.
 
--
Rick C. Hodgin
"Öö Tiib" <ootiib@hot.ee>: Jun 21 06:39AM -0700

On Friday, 21 June 2019 09:59:42 UTC+3, Mr Flibble wrote:
> evidence to the contrary you crazy fuck. The only evidence you have shown
> is the evidence that you are a deluded idiot.
 
> And Satan invented fossils, yes?
 
Exactly!
 
You forget that a book or a picture is evidence but fossils, lack
of those and/or radiometric dating of those is not. Radiometric
dating has to be wrong since world is 6000 years old anyway.
 
All these creatures:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_legendary_creatures_by_type
have therefore "plenty of evidence" and since some are reptiles
it must be dinosaurs.
 
You are not clear-headed but just blinded and full of hatred and
so you can not see how the truth forms.
rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com: Jun 21 07:31AM -0700

On Friday, June 21, 2019 at 9:40:08 AM UTC-4, Öö Tiib wrote:
> [snip]
 
God gives us His written word so we can have something to refer
back to, because the enemy is always trying to come up with new
ideas, new ways of thinking, new understandings, but what God
has revealed from ancient days stands, because He does not change.
We do. The enemy regroups his tactics. The enemy was there on
the Earth ~5000+ years ago when Adam was alive, and after the
flood when the dinosaurs were still here. The enemy cannot ex-
plain them away because there's proof of their existence, but
he can try to introduce falseness into our thinking. He devotes
feature-length movies to the idea of "millions of years ago" and
"they had their time" and so on.
 
The enemy is seeking to see each of your soul's destroyed in Hell
by giving you false ideas to grab hold of. But if you press in
and investigate what he claims, you'll discover his lies for your-
self.
 
That video I linked above shows cave paintings around the world
of dinosaurs, by Native American Indians, reports of a possible
pterodactyl seen as recently as the wild wild west frontier days.
 
There is so much evidence for the existence of dinosaurs along-
side man, but of course they weren't called dinosaurs back then
but rather dragons (because the word dinosaur didn't come into
existence until the 1800s).
 
People make fun of unicorns existing because we don't see them
today, but we do see narwhals, rinos, we find fossil evidence
of one-horned dinosaurs, and three-horned dinosaurs (an odd
number, so it's not directly symmetric).
 
The Bible teaches us the truth. It's up to us to look to what
God has written and say, "Okay God, your written word makes
this claim. Do we find any evidence of what you say here in
our world?"
 
Do you know there are over 300 flood legends from around the
world. One from isolated Hawaii talks bout Nu-u and his family
who built a great canoe and filled it with animals and there
was a great flood and only Nu-u and his family survived.
 
One from China reads similarly. In fact, many fundamental
Chinese words derive the story of 8 people coming through the
flood by the symbols used for the words they relate to.
 
IF YOU INVESTIGATE THE CLAIMS OF THE BIBLE you'l find they do
bear out under scrutiny. And what you'll also find is that
there is a great movement against God, against the Bible,
against Jesus Christ, against knowledge of sin, against God's
call for holiness, because the enemy knows if he can deceive
us away from Christ our eternal soul will be lost, and that's
exactly what that ENEMY wants for us, to destroy us, and to
harm God.
 
--
Rick C. Hodgin
Mr Flibble <flibbleREMOVETHISBIT@i42.co.uk>: Jun 21 04:08PM +0100

> us away from Christ our eternal soul will be lost, and that's
> exactly what that ENEMY wants for us, to destroy us, and to
> harm God.
 
Thanks for finally admitting that Satan invented fossils. Presumably he
also invented the weathering that would otherwise be the result of
constant erosion by the Colorado River over millions of years that created
the Grand Canyon, yes?
 
You are quite mad Rick.
 
/Flibble
 
--
"Snakes didn't evolve, instead talking snakes with legs changed into
snakes." - Rick C. Hodgin
 
"You won't burn in hell. But be nice anyway." – Ricky Gervais
 
"I see Atheists are fighting and killing each other again, over who
doesn't believe in any God the most. Oh, no..wait.. that never happens." –
Ricky Gervais
 
"Suppose it's all true, and you walk up to the pearly gates, and are
confronted by God," Bryne asked on his show The Meaning of Life. "What
will Stephen Fry say to him, her, or it?"
"I'd say, bone cancer in children? What's that about?" Fry replied.
"How dare you? How dare you create a world to which there is such misery
that is not our fault. It's not right, it's utterly, utterly evil."
"Why should I respect a capricious, mean-minded, stupid God who creates a
world that is so full of injustice and pain. That's what I would say."
Mr Flibble <flibbleREMOVETHISBIT@i42.co.uk>: Jun 21 04:09PM +0100

> truck was coming at you, and you didn't believe that truck
> was bearing down on you there is a certain point where I
> tackle you. And this is more important than that."
 
And Satan invented fossils, yes?
 
/Flibble
 
--
"Snakes didn't evolve, instead talking snakes with legs changed into
snakes." - Rick C. Hodgin
 
"You won't burn in hell. But be nice anyway." – Ricky Gervais
 
"I see Atheists are fighting and killing each other again, over who
doesn't believe in any God the most. Oh, no..wait.. that never happens." –
Ricky Gervais
 
"Suppose it's all true, and you walk up to the pearly gates, and are
confronted by God," Bryne asked on his show The Meaning of Life. "What
will Stephen Fry say to him, her, or it?"
"I'd say, bone cancer in children? What's that about?" Fry replied.
"How dare you? How dare you create a world to which there is such misery
that is not our fault. It's not right, it's utterly, utterly evil."
"Why should I respect a capricious, mean-minded, stupid God who creates a
world that is so full of injustice and pain. That's what I would say."
rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com: Jun 21 08:24AM -0700

What God wants from us (His creation) is a relationship. He wants
us to remember Him as we go through our day, to note two squirrels
running through a wooded area and to think to ourselves, "God, you
made that," and to remember that we are all His creation, and there
are some of us who need help, and we should help them, and there
are some of us who have skills and are leaders and we should lead.
 
God gifts us our abilities. He reaches His hand into our lives
and nudges us this way, or that way, or gives us an opportunity to
achieve something and do and shine our temporary Earthly glory in
this world. But He wants us to always remember that it is Him who
made us, Him who gifted us with abilities and opportunities. He
wants us to acknowledge the truth.
 
God is looking for people who seek the truth, realize who He is,
who we are, why we need Him, and then to serve Him by going out
and teaching others the same.
 
He's looking for things to be done properly and in order unto Him,
and not improperly and out of order unto the enemy as they are
today in this world.
 
He's making everything new. A new Heaven and a new Earth are
coming. He will dwell with us and be our God face-to-face, as
we are His people face-to-face.
 
He's creating a Kingdom of glory, and He's inviting us to partake
of it. The enemy of God tries to make it seem like it's something
else, but if you press in and seek the truth you will discover God
and His true plans for each of us.
 
https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Jeremiah+29.11&version=NIV;KJV
 
11 For I know the thoughts that I think toward you, saith
the Lord, thoughts of peace, and not of evil, to give
you an expected end.
 
He's calling us up into greatness. He's calling us to be His eternal
children. He's calling us to be gods (literally).
 
--
Rick C. Hodgin
rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com: Jun 21 08:39AM -0700

On Friday, June 21, 2019 at 11:08:59 AM UTC-4, Mr Flibble wrote:
> otherwise be the result of constant erosion by the Colorado
> River over millions of years that created the Grand Canyon,
> yes?
 
If you study the elevations of the rocks around the Grand Canyon
you'll discover they are higher than the river. It would have
been impossible for it to carve the rocks away.
 
And if you look at what happened at Mt. St. Helens in the 1980s
and 90s after its eruption, you'll see how the various crooked
rock formations were made. They were not made by millions of
years, but were made quite rapidly and folded while they were
still wet and pliable.
 
You've been listening to fables, Leigh. Invented lies designed
to keep your mind away from Christ, to keep you on the path to
your soul's destruction in Hell.
 
> You are quite mad Rick.
 
No. Investigate these thins, Leigh, and YOU will see for YOURSELF
the truth of it all. The things you believe are lies.
 
The truth does exist and is available to you personally, for you
to know personally as by your own research.
 
--
Rick C. Hodgin
Mr Flibble <flibbleREMOVETHISBIT@i42.co.uk>: Jun 21 05:34PM +0100

> the truth of it all. The things you believe are lies.
 
> The truth does exist and is available to you personally, for you
> to know personally as by your own research.
 
And Satan invented fossils, yes?
 
/Flibble
 
--
"Snakes didn't evolve, instead talking snakes with legs changed into
snakes." - Rick C. Hodgin
 
"You won't burn in hell. But be nice anyway." – Ricky Gervais
 
"I see Atheists are fighting and killing each other again, over who
doesn't believe in any God the most. Oh, no..wait.. that never happens." –
Ricky Gervais
 
"Suppose it's all true, and you walk up to the pearly gates, and are
confronted by God," Bryne asked on his show The Meaning of Life. "What
will Stephen Fry say to him, her, or it?"
"I'd say, bone cancer in children? What's that about?" Fry replied.
"How dare you? How dare you create a world to which there is such misery
that is not our fault. It's not right, it's utterly, utterly evil."
"Why should I respect a capricious, mean-minded, stupid God who creates a
world that is so full of injustice and pain. That's what I would say."
Mr Flibble <flibbleREMOVETHISBIT@i42.co.uk>: Jun 21 05:36PM +0100

> you an expected end.
 
> He's calling us up into greatness. He's calling us to be His eternal
> children. He's calling us to be gods (literally).
 
Nonsense.
A) Your bible is false.
B) Your god the existence of which is predicated on your bible being true
is, given (A), also false.
 
/Flibble
 
--
"Snakes didn't evolve, instead talking snakes with legs changed into
snakes." - Rick C. Hodgin
 
"You won't burn in hell. But be nice anyway." – Ricky Gervais
 
"I see Atheists are fighting and killing each other again, over who
doesn't believe in any God the most. Oh, no..wait.. that never happens." –
Ricky Gervais
 
"Suppose it's all true, and you walk up to the pearly gates, and are
confronted by God," Bryne asked on his show The Meaning of Life. "What
will Stephen Fry say to him, her, or it?"
"I'd say, bone cancer in children? What's that about?" Fry replied.
"How dare you? How dare you create a world to which there is such misery
that is not our fault. It's not right, it's utterly, utterly evil."
"Why should I respect a capricious, mean-minded, stupid God who creates a
world that is so full of injustice and pain. That's what I would say."
Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org>: Jun 21 01:31PM -0700

David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> writes:
[...]
> restrict and control people, or merely to annoy them. Keith's
> preference of ignoring such off-topic posts is ineffectual - but so are
> all alternatives.
 
How is it ineffectual? I don't see Rick's posts, which makes
comp.lang.c a much more pleasant place for me.
 
--
Keith Thompson (The_Other_Keith) kst-u@mib.org <http://www.ghoti.net/~kst>
Will write code for food.
void Void(void) { Void(); } /* The recursive call of the void */
Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org>: Jun 21 01:33PM -0700

>> all alternatives.
 
> How is it ineffectual? I don't see Rick's posts, which makes
> comp.lang.c a much more pleasant place for me.
 
Of course I should have written comp.lang.c++ -- but it makes
comp.lang.c more pleasant too.
 
--
Keith Thompson (The_Other_Keith) kst-u@mib.org <http://www.ghoti.net/~kst>
Will write code for food.
void Void(void) { Void(); } /* The recursive call of the void */
James Kuyper <jameskuyper@alumni.caltech.edu>: Jun 20 09:13PM -0400

On 6/20/19 6:05 PM, Chris Vine wrote:
> James Kuyper <jameskuyper@alumni.caltech.edu> wrote:
>> On Thursday, June 20, 2019 at 10:02:40 AM UTC-4, Bart wrote:
>>> On 20/06/2019 14:51, James Kuyper wrote:
...
 
>> function(3,4) and five(3,4) perform exactly the same calculation.
 
> A function object does not have to have an overloaded call operator. It
> just has to have a call operator.
 
Any declaration of an operator() function is an operator overload.
 
> But why on earth would you keep an array of pointers to such things?
 
In any context in which an array of function pointers might be useful,
and array of pointers to function objects might be viable alternative.
Or it might not be. If it is viable alternative, it might be a superior
one. It depends very much on the task to be performed.
 
> You would either keep an array of 'function_objects' since they only
> have an int member or (if you were to allocate them on free store)
> an array of std::unique_ptr<function_object>.
 
std::unique_ptr<> is included in what I meant by the term "pointer" in
this context.
 
> In practice you wouldn't do either of those things: if you had the
> multiplier as a closure as above you would probably use an array of
 
Don't take the details of my example too literally. I was merely
providing the simplest non-trivial example I could think of to show Bart
what a function object is. Any real world example could easily be a lot
more complicated and a lot more heterogenous - for example, the pointers
could be to a base class, with the actual function objects they point at
being of derived classes - which is a good reason for using an array of
pointers to function objects, rather than an array of function objects.
 
> std::function objects wrapping lambda expressions.
 
That also is included in what I meant.
Chris Vine <chris@cvine--nospam--.freeserve.co.uk>: Jun 21 11:58AM +0100

On Thu, 20 Jun 2019 21:13:51 -0400
> > an array of std::unique_ptr<function_object>.
 
> std::unique_ptr<> is included in what I meant by the term "pointer" in
> this context.
 
Really?
 
Anyway, it seems odd to give an array of pointers to function objects
to a beginner as an example of an alternative to an array of function
pointers. (A function pointer is a callable object, as is a function
object, but a pointer to a function object is not.)
 
> could be to a base class, with the actual function objects they point at
> being of derived classes - which is a good reason for using an array of
> pointers to function objects, rather than an array of function objects.
 
Types with virtual overridden call operators, held by unique_ptr? Use
std::function.
 
> > std::function objects wrapping lambda expressions.
 
> That also is included in what I meant.
 
An array of std::function objects, which is a perfectly reasonable
alternative to an array of function pointers, is an array of function
objects, not an array of pointers to function objects.
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