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* pointer to one operator* - 3 messages, 3 authors
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* Is std::wcout really required? - 3 messages, 3 authors
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* Getters / Setters Update - 1 messages, 1 author
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TOPIC: pointer to one operator*
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== 1 of 3 ==
Date: Sat, Jun 27 2009 11:06 am
From: "io_x"

Exist in C++ one pointer to one operator?

if it is possible a pointer to
X& operator*(unsigned b, const X& a){}

will be

X& (*operator*)(unsigned b, const X& a);

right?

== 2 of 3 ==
Date: Sat, Jun 27 2009 11:53 am
From: Sam

io_x writes:

> Exist in C++ one pointer to one operator?
>
> if it is possible a pointer to
> X& operator*(unsigned b, const X& a){}
>
> will be
>
> X& (*operator*)(unsigned b, const X& a);
>
> right?

No. An operator is just a function, no different than any other function.
Consider how you would go about using a function pointer. Same thing.

== 3 of 3 ==
Date: Sat, Jun 27 2009 1:22 pm
From: "Alf P. Steinbach"

* io_x:
> Exist in C++ one pointer to one operator?
>
> if it is possible a pointer to
> X& operator*(unsigned b, const X& a){}
>
> will be
>
> X& (*operator*)(unsigned b, const X& a);
>
> right?

No.

The last declaration attempts to declare a variable that is a pointer to
routine, and name that variable 'operator*'.

You can't use that special name for variables.

But as to the question you probably meant to ask, no, the built-in operators do
not exist as routines you can take the address of.

It is however a simple matter to define routines that wrap the use of built-in
operators, and the standard library even offers some such routines.

Cheers & hth.,

- Alf

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TOPIC: Is std::wcout really required?
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== 1 of 3 ==
Date: Sat, Jun 27 2009 11:04 am
From: Amit Kumar

Output of all the four statements are the same on Visual studio:

std::cout << "Hello\n";
std::wcout << "Hello\n";
std::cout << L"Hello\n";
std::wcout << L"Hello\n";

If cout and wcout can handle both char strings and wide char strings
then why do we need wcout?

== 2 of 3 ==
Date: Sat, Jun 27 2009 11:52 am
From: Sam

Amit Kumar writes:

> Output of all the four statements are the same on Visual studio:
>
> std::cout << "Hello\n";
> std::wcout << "Hello\n";
> std::cout << L"Hello\n";
> std::wcout << L"Hello\n";
>
> If cout and wcout can handle both char strings and wide char strings
> then why do we need wcout?

You have assumed that you know what kind of output you're going to get from
the above code fragments.

Why don't you try running the above code fragments, and see what happens.
You will answer your own question.

== 3 of 3 ==
Date: Sat, Jun 27 2009 1:17 pm
From: "Alf P. Steinbach"

* Amit Kumar:
> Output of all the four statements are the same on Visual studio:
>
> std::cout << "Hello\n";
> std::wcout << "Hello\n";
> std::cout << L"Hello\n";
> std::wcout << L"Hello\n";
>
> If cout and wcout can handle both char strings and wide char strings

By default std::cout can't handle wide text (see Sam's reply else-thread).

> then why do we need wcout?

We don't, not in the form it has (translating to narrow characters). It's an
abomination, a monstrosity, a completely redundant appendix in the acidic
digestive system of C++, the system which end-product is... well, u know. ;-)

And e.g. MinGW g++ 3.4.5 for Windows does not even implement it. :-)

Cheers & hth.,

- Alf

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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Sat, Jun 27 2009 11:43 am
From: candy

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== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Sat, Jun 27 2009 11:52 am
From: "Dennis Jones"

candy wrote:
> 111ghccvc

Is that so? Wow, I never would have guessed.

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TOPIC: Getters / Setters Update
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Sat, Jun 27 2009 11:43 am
From: Paul N

On 27 June, 04:06, Immortal Nephi <Immortal_Ne...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> We discussed proxy class with getters / setters in earlier posts.
> You said design is flawed if getters / setters are defined in public.
> My question remains unanswered.

I wrote a post on 23 April discussing this, but didn't get any reply
(either from you or from anyone else). I don't know if you have me
blocked or whether you just didn't feel like commenting. Perhaps you
could reply just to confirm you are reading my stuff? Otherwise it's a
bit of a waste me writing it...

Searching for "setmon" in the group (eg in Google) brings up my
earlier post.

Regards.
Paul.

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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Sat, Jun 27 2009 12:20 pm
From: Frank Bergemann

Hi Bo,

Bo Persson schrieb:
>> -----------------------------------------------
>>
>> Compilation raises an error:
>>
>> frank@charlie:~/TEST$ /usr/bin/g++ -o test test.cc
>> base.h: In instantiation of 'Base<Sample>':
>> test.cc:5: instantiated from here
>> base.h:13: error: incomplete type 'Sample' used in nested name
>> specifier
>> base.h:13: error: incomplete type 'Sample' used in nested name
>> specifier
>> base.h:13: error: array bound is not an integer constant
>
> The compiler is correct. At the line
>
> class Sample : public Base<Sample>
>
> the Sample class is not complete, so its content isn't known yet.
>
> Technically you also have the problem that sizeof(Sample) depends on
> sizeof(Base), which depends on Sample's enum. That's not going to
> work!
>
>> I could do a workaround and switch to std::vector<char> and allocate
>> in c'tor via some Sample::getSize().
>
> Or pass it as a parameter to the Base constructor.
>
>
> Bo Persson
>

- thanks (once again :-) for your help, Bo!

"in real" life i had a number of type definitions in Sample,
which i wanted to be handled in my template base class.
E.g. it should manage a container of 'Sample'-typed elements.
Therefore i couldn't use the Base constructor for this.
(it wasn't just some (int) size-information).
So i shifted the necessary stuff to some extra SampleCfg class.
And made my Sample class this way:

class Sample : public Base<SampleCfg, Sample>
{
typedef SampleCfg Cfg;
[...]
};

But another thing i recognized for this:
If i map in some enum type:

class Sample : public Base<SampleCfg, Sample>
{
typedef SampleCfg Cfg;

typedef Cfg::MyEnum_t MyEnum_t;
[...]
};

Then i can't access the MyEnum_t's literals as Sample::FIRST_VAL (e.g.).
But i have to use Sample::Cfg::FIRST_VAL.

Why doesn't the
typedef Cfg::MyEnum_t MyEnum_t;

... within class Sample also "adopt" the names of MyEnum_t elements into
class Sample?

TIA!

cheers,
Frank

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