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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Mon, Jun 29 2009 4:46 am
From: Bart van Ingen Schenau
Jorgen Grahn wrote:
> On Fri, 26 Jun 2009 10:10:03 +0200, Bart van Ingen Schenau
> <bart@ingen.ddns.info> wrote:
>> Immortal Nephi wrote:
>>
>>> The base class has some data members. Tens of member functions or
>>> hundreds of member functions modify data members.
>
> ...
>
>>> What if programmer
>>> make mistakes? They might assign incorrect value to the data
>>> members. Then, they have to examine all tens of member functions or
>>> hundreds of member functions to try and locate incorrect values.
>>
>> If the programmer makes a mistake, then the unit-test of the function
>> containing the mistake should fail, giving a very direct indication
>> where to look for the problem.
>
> Trying to "lock down" the code is IMHO a good thing in general. You
> wouldn't recommend unit tests instead of static type checking, right?
No, I would not. Just like I would not recommend replacing making a
design or code reviews with unit testing.
>
> I agree about setters and getters, but I think it's dangerous to wave
> the unit test card too often. Before we know it, we may all be
> programming in Python ;-)
Then we are in agreement :-)
>
> /Jorgen
>
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== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Mon, Jun 29 2009 6:23 am
From: Jorgen Grahn
On Sun, 28 Jun 2009 13:29:53 -0700 (PDT), Daniel T. <daniel_t@earthlink.net> wrote:
> On Jun 26, 4:10 am, Bart van Ingen Schenau <b...@ingen.ddns.info>
> wrote:
>
>> ... exposing data members (either directly or through
>> getters/setters) is certainly NOT a best practice.
>
> A member-function that returns state information about an object is
> *not* exposing data members. A member-function that changes the state
> of an object in some defined way is also not exposing data members.
>
> As a simple example:
>
> class Range {
> // private stuff
> public:
> // invariant: low() < high()
> // invariant: high() - low() == distance()
> int high() const;
> int low() const;
> int distance() const;
> void setLow(int v);
> void setDistance(int v);
> };
>
> No data member's are exposed in the above getters/setters.
But the setters can be used to break the invariant -- something I
associate with getters/setters. (Unless setLow() throws, but that
is probably not a good idea.)
How about:
void Range::include(int n); // widen range to include 'n'
// can't come up with an interface for shrinking it
(Of course, this is just an example, and we don't know what
it is supposed to be used for.)
/Jorgen
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Date: Mon, Jun 29 2009 5:42 am
From: Jonathan Lee
On Jun 29, 1:13 am, Michael Sgier <sg...@nospam.com> wrote:
> Hi
> Yes I should have shown the init as there's exectly where I get the
> errors. So texLogo = loadTexture("Images/carmine_64x16.png",1,0);
> and ftglCreatePixmapFont("Fonts/MgOpenModataOblique.ttf");
> don't load or create. Why? That's exactly my problem here.
I just have a minute, but the first thing that springs to mind is:
Does your working directory change when you are executing from within
the plugin? I'm not sure if a shared library gets its own working
directory, but your description of the symptoms suggests it. Try using
an absolute path. If that works, fix the relative path. Or do
something so the path isn't hard-coded.
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Mon, Jun 29 2009 6:11 am
From: CplusplusNewbie
On Jun 28, 7:42 pm, Hendrik Schober <spamt...@gmx.de> wrote:
> CplusplusNewbie wrote:
> > In Scott Meyers' Effective STL, he stresses that it's incredibly
> > difficult to write smart-pointer code, and that his attempts in one of
> > his own texts had several bugs etc.
>
> > This confuses me somewhat because Lippman, Lajoie and Moo's C++ Primer
> > 4th ed contains extensive smart-pointer code and it doesn't appear
> > terribly difficult.
>
> > Are there hidden problems with the RCSP code in C++ Primer 4th ed that
> > I'm missing?
>
> I wouldn't know, as I haven't looked closely at the Primer's
> implementation and I probably wouldn't find the bugs anyway,
> as, IIRC, Scott's point was that they are quite subtle.
> Some personal data: Out of two companies I have seen in the
> last years where a home-grown 'shared_ptr'-lookalike was used,
> two had subtle errors in it. Since one of them was derived
> from an early version of boost's 'shared_ptr', I suppose that,
> too, had subtle errors in it.
>
> Here's two ways to find out more about this (please and report
> back here): I know that Scott Meyers draws a lot of his wisdom
> from newsgroup discussions and doesn't at all hesitate to ask
> seemingly simple questions (for us to find out that the answer
> is all but simple). So you could go and dig in google groups
> about discussions he sparked (I'd look in comp.lang.c++moderated
> and comp.standard.c++) on this.
> Or you could go and sift through boost's archives for their
> discussions on the topic. (Which might bring you to Scott's
> postings, too, now that I think of it.)
>
> > Many Thanks.
>
> HTH,
>
> Schobi
Hi Schobi,
I haven't done what you suggested, but I've thought and read more
about smart pointers since my last post. I doubt that there is
anything incorrect or bugged about the smart-pointer code in C++
Primer. However, it isn't very sophisticated (perhaps rightly so,
since it is, after all, intended as a book for novices), and the C++
Primer code does nothing to address the issue of cycles of pointers.
(Boost handles this by the weak_ptr class template.) Presumably, Scott
Meyers did address this issue, and maybe others. So, a safe bet is
that the reason Scott Meyers (according to his own account) struggled
a bit on his implementation, whereas C++ Primer handles the matter
simply, is that the Meyers approach was much more ambitious in its
scope.
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TOPIC: Proposal: More flexible comparisons
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.lang.c++/t/0666c63287aacf90?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Mon, Jun 29 2009 6:40 am
From: Pete Becker
Hendrik Schober wrote:
>>
>> Preprocessor macros messing up things is a relatively common problem.
>> For example, some versions of the C++ standard library implementation in
>> MSVC defined min() and max() as macros.
No, it's not the C++ standard library. It's the Windows headers.
--
Pete
Roundhouse Consulting, Ltd. (www.versatilecoding.com) Author of
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(www.petebecker.com/tr1book)
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TOPIC: Excellent C++ Developer Job opening @ Redmond, WA (Looking for
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Date: Mon, Jun 29 2009 9:02 am
From: "K.P Kumar"
Hi,
Hope you are doing great!!!
This is Kumar with Javaji System Solutions Inc.,
We have an opening with my client who is looking for C++ Developer at
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Position: C++ Developer
Duration: 6 Months + High probability of extension up to 12 months
Location: Redmond, WA 98052.
We are looking for a candidate with Very strong C++, WinCE and Middle
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Job Description:
· The candidate is required to have a minimum of 4 years of
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· The candidate may work on UI as well, so UI application is a
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· BA/BS or MS degree in Computer Science or related technical
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Please submit resume to kumar@javaji.com
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