| Juha Nieminen <nospam@thanks.invalid>: Jun 08 06:26AM > Just because you don't have a problem with compile time doesn't mean > others don't. And yes, there are many programmers who work on larger > projects and it affects them. Just because you have a problem with compile times doesn't mean others do. And yes, the majority of programmers do not work on larger projects and it does not affect them. > Of course, when the biggest program you write is "Hello, World!", > compile time isn't a problem. Fuck you. --- news://freenews.netfront.net/ - complaints: news@netfront.net --- |
| "Öö Tiib" <ootiib@hot.ee>: Jun 07 11:54PM -0700 On Wednesday, 8 June 2016 09:26:31 UTC+3, Juha Nieminen wrote: > Just because you have a problem with compile times doesn't mean > others do. And yes, the majority of programmers do not work on larger > projects and it does not affect them. He does not have that problem. He is some sort of php or python group troll. His problem is that those groups have low traffic and so he decided to troll in C and C++ groups as well. That is why his "expert knowledge" about C++ looks like FUD among programmers of other languages. If he knows C++ then he hasn't had real work for decade or more so some of his positions are oddly archaic and some have apparent gaps. > > Of course, when the biggest program you write is "Hello, World!", > > compile time isn't a problem. > Fuck you. If you do not enjoy communicating with such asshole then don't. ;) |
| Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net>: Jun 08 06:25AM -0400 On 6/8/2016 2:26 AM, Juha Nieminen wrote: >> compile time isn't a problem. > Fuck you. > --- news://freenews.netfront.net/ - complaints: news@netfront.net --- Ah, I see your intelligence is once again showing. -- ================== Remove the "x" from my email address Jerry Stuckle jstucklex@attglobal.net ================== |
| Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net>: Jun 08 06:29AM -0400 On 6/8/2016 2:54 AM, Öö Tiib wrote: > other languages. If he knows C++ then he hasn't had real work for decade > or more so some of his positions are oddly archaic and some have apparent > gaps. Wrong again. I get paid very well for C and C++ work. And I really don't care what programmers of other languages think about C or C++. Sorry, Charlie. I have all the work I want - and even turn down some. But then you have no idea how much work a good programmer gets. >>> compile time isn't a problem. >> Fuck you. > If you do not enjoy communicating with such asshole then don't. ;) Just another troll post. -- ================== Remove the "x" from my email address Jerry Stuckle jstucklex@attglobal.net ================== |
| "Öö Tiib" <ootiib@hot.ee>: Jun 08 05:48AM -0700 On Wednesday, 8 June 2016 13:30:00 UTC+3, Jerry Stuckle wrote: > Wrong again. I get paid very well for C and C++ work. And I really > don't care what programmers of other languages think about C or C++. > Sorry, Charlie. I have all the work I want - and even turn down some. You can lie all you want but anyone can check that you started to post in comp.lang.c++ this january while in comp.lang.php you have posted for ages. So you are PHP programmer and if you do not care to tell us what such a PHP programmer thinks about C or C++ then why you post here? > But then you have no idea how much work a good programmer gets. You have? All you have are empty words with no other substance but attempts to annoy or insult others. Nonsense troll. |
| Christian Gollwitzer <auriocus@gmx.de>: Jun 08 04:25PM +0200 Am 08.06.16 um 08:54 schrieb Öö Tiib: > He does not have that problem. He is some sort of php or python > group troll. His problem is that those groups have low traffic and > so he decided to troll in C and C++ groups as well. Sounds very plausible to me. I also think that his knowledge is quite outdated. Who could realistically believe that the crufty software powering, say a bank, has more LOC than an entire Linux distribution including all application software? OK, it might be written in Cobol... but still. >>> compile time isn't a problem. >> Fuck you. > If you do not enjoy communicating with such asshole then don't. ;) To me he is entertaining. Just read over his insidious insults and have fun:) But it starts to become boring a bit. Maybe we should bring up another fun topic, or go back to some real discussion. Besides, I also learnt something new, particularly from Scott's answers. PS: Know this one? A man is sailing in a balloon, he sees somebody down on the earth and asks "Hello there, can you tell me where I am?" "Drop me a $100 note and I tell you!" The balloonist drops a 100$ note, and the man on the earth says: "You are 50 m above me!" "You must be Jerry, the consultant!" "How do you know?" "You told me something that I knew already, took a lot of money for useless information, and your knowledge is outdated!" "Why outdated?" "I released some gas and sank by 40 meters already to get my money back!" Christian |
| Gareth Owen <gwowen@gmail.com>: Jun 08 06:02PM +0100 > To me he is entertaining. Just read over his insidious insults and > have fun:) It may help to imagine him in a bad wig, permanent enraged face and a "Make America Great Again" baseball cap. |
| BartC <bc@freeuk.com>: Jun 08 06:27PM +0100 On 08/06/2016 15:25, Christian Gollwitzer wrote: > To me he is entertaining. Just read over his insidious insults and have > fun:) Is it possible that Jerry Stuckle is always right and everyone else in the world, or at least on usenet, is wrong? -- Bartc |
| scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal): Jun 08 05:31PM >> fun:) >Is it possible that Jerry Stuckle is always right and everyone else in >the world, or at least on usenet, is wrong? In the infinite sheaf of parallel universes, anything is possible, but quite unlikely in any one universe. |
| Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net>: Jun 08 01:52PM -0400 On 6/8/2016 8:48 AM, Öö Tiib wrote: > for ages. So you are PHP programmer and if you do not care to tell us > what such a PHP programmer thinks about C or C++ then why you > post here? So what? What does where I post have to do with it? For your information, I've been doing C for around 35 years, and C++ for almost 30 (since the late 80's). No, one again you show your total ignorance. But you're just a troll, so that's nothing new. >> But then you have no idea how much work a good programmer gets. > You have? All you have are empty words with no other substance but > attempts to annoy or insult others. Nonsense troll. Yup, and it's a lot more that you get, that's for sure. -- ================== Remove the "x" from my email address Jerry Stuckle jstucklex@attglobal.net ================== |
| Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net>: Jun 08 01:55PM -0400 On 6/8/2016 10:25 AM, Christian Gollwitzer wrote: > powering, say a bank, has more LOC than an entire Linux distribution > including all application software? OK, it might be written in Cobol... > but still. So stupid, so stupid. How many of those programs do you have on your system? Or the average user? I would bet there's a lot more LOC in Windows program than even in Linux. But no one has all of those installed on their system. Whereas all the code running a bank IS on their system. Wanna show more of your stupidity? > "Why outdated?" > "I released some gas and sank by 40 meters already to get my money back!" > Christian You obviously have no idea what a consultant does. But then it sounds like YOU just "released some gas". -- ================== Remove the "x" from my email address Jerry Stuckle jstucklex@attglobal.net ================== |
| Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net>: Jun 08 01:56PM -0400 On 6/8/2016 1:27 PM, BartC wrote: >> fun:) > Is it possible that Jerry Stuckle is always right and everyone else in > the world, or at least on usenet, is wrong? Nope, but there are some in this newsgroup who are wrong - on a lot of things. But then they've already shown they can't read. -- ================== Remove the "x" from my email address Jerry Stuckle jstucklex@attglobal.net ================== |
| woodbrian77@gmail.com: Jun 08 12:33PM -0700 On Wednesday, June 8, 2016 at 1:26:31 AM UTC-5, Juha Nieminen wr Juha, Please don't swear here. Brian Ebenezer Enterprises http://webEbenezer.net |
| woodbrian77@gmail.com: Jun 08 02:39PM -0700 > On Wednesday, June 8, 2016 at 1:26:31 AM UTC-5, Juha Nieminen wr Juha, sorry about Jerry's insults. What you have posted here in the past has been interesting to me and I think you must be a good programmer. I encourage you to not let him get under your skin. Brian |
| David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no>: Jun 08 08:58AM +0200 On 07/06/16 23:50, BartC wrote: > example in your OP (as changing parameter names could change the > behaviour if it means a different name coming into scope for the > default expression).) This is actually one of the few things that I would change in C and C++. Plenty of people disagree with me on this one (in addition to the "don't break existing code" argument). But I would be happier with a rule that all definitions and declarations of the same function must use the same names for parameters (and declarations could not omit names). As well as being more consistent and closer to self-documenting code, it would make it possible to use named parameter function calls (i.e., "myfunc(.b = 3, .a = 1);" or similar syntax). IMHO, the prime goal for new language should not be to make it easy to write code, or easy to be flexible - it should make it easy to write /correct/ programs and /hard/ to write incorrect ones. That means more effort on the part of the programmer in some aspects, but savings in the long run. Apparent short-cuts, like making the default parameter value come from anywhere around the universe, would make some tasks appear quick and easy, but lead to longer debugging, harder maintenance, and reduced code re-use. On the other hand, although using full parameter names in header declaration means a little more typing, it saves time overall. |
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