Friday, June 3, 2016

Digest for comp.lang.c++@googlegroups.com - 8 updates in 2 topics

Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net>: Jun 03 11:10AM -0400

On 6/3/2016 10:37 AM, Scott Lurndal wrote:
 
> It's entirely likely that DDR5 may also have a high-speed serial
> interface instead of the current 64-bit parallel interface, which
> provides many benefits to the hardware designer (fewer package bumps, for example).
 
Which only proves you can read specs but you don't understand the
operation. Typical salesman.
 
I tried to educate you in real life. I *really* tried. But you are
totally hopeless.
 
Go back to you sales. Maybe you can find someone dumb enough to accept
your sales pitch.
 
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scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal): Jun 03 03:37PM

>> Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> writes:
 
>Which only proves you can read specs but you don't understand the
>operation. Typical salesman.
 
Distinguished Engineer, if you please. Getting paid to build
processors. Those who can, do. Those who can't, consult.
cross@spitfire.i.gajendra.net (Dan Cross): Jun 03 03:45PM

In article <xuh4z.1605$z42.130@fx23.iad>,
>>operation. Typical salesman.
 
>Distinguished Engineer, if you please. Getting paid to build
>processors. Those who can, do. Those who can't, consult.
 
My goodness. Yet another newsgroup where I need to add Jerry
Stuckle to my killfile.
 
But please don't use such big words: poor Jerry can't keep up with
them. He still thinks that an IBM System 370 model 148 is a "big
machine."
 
(I'm also pretty sure that Jerry has never met Scott in real life
before or tried to "teach" him anything. I also highly doubt that
Jerry is a *successful* consultant at anything. As for his time
working at IBM: Well, someone's got to clean the toilets.)
 
- Dan C.
Ian Collins <ian-news@hotmail.com>: Jun 04 08:40AM +1200

On 06/ 3/16 11:57 PM, Jerry Stuckle wrote:
>> simple HBA, decreases reliability.
 
> Once again you show your total ignorance. Let's see you put together a
> 500GB RAID out of 5MB disks.
 
You really do live in the 80s, don't you? Where else would I get 5MB disks?
 
> Also, hardware RAID is still more reliable than SSDs.
 
Where did this one come from?
 
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legalize+jeeves@mail.xmission.com (Richard): Jun 03 09:42PM

[Please do not mail me a copy of your followup]
 
Ian Collins <ian-news@hotmail.com> spake the secret code
 
>> Also, hardware RAID is still more reliable than SSDs.
 
>Where did this one come from?
 
Lack of knowledge of modern SSDs? I worked at Fusion-io and not only
were our SSDs reliable, we actually had a warranty on them. They were
guaranteed to last a certain number of bytes written/read and if they
failed before that time, we would replace the card for you.
 
This warranty was built-in to all our products, not something you
purchased as an add-on.
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Ian Collins <ian-news@hotmail.com>: Jun 04 11:34AM +1200

On 06/ 4/16 09:42 AM, Richard wrote:
 
>>> Also, hardware RAID is still more reliable than SSDs.
 
>> Where did this one come from?
 
> Lack of knowledge of modern SSDs?
 
Lack of knowledge modern anything!
 
> were our SSDs reliable, we actually had a warranty on them. They were
> guaranteed to last a certain number of bytes written/read and if they
> failed before that time, we would replace the card for you.
 
They were popular in my world (storage systems) as ZFS ZIL devices.
 
> This warranty was built-in to all our products, not something you
> purchased as an add-on.
 
The parts I use (Intel 3710) offer something similar.
 
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Vir Campestris <vir.campestris@invalid.invalid>: Jun 03 09:30PM +0100

On 03/06/2016 08:01, Paul wrote:
> However, I want to express the fact that the vector only contains iterators to charList; With the above code, itrs could contain iterators to any list<char> and I don't want that
 
I've not tested it, and I'm writing altogether too much C these days -
but I think if you typedef something to be a list<char>::iterator, then
have a list of those, you won't be able to mix them up. It would
definitely be more readable.
 
I'll leave Alf to improve your algorithm.
 
Andy
Paul <pepstein5@gmail.com>: Jun 03 01:39PM -0700

On Friday, June 3, 2016 at 9:30:26 PM UTC+1, Vir Campestris wrote:
> have a list of those, you won't be able to mix them up. It would
> definitely be more readable.
 
> I'll leave Alf to improve your algorithm.
 
Thanks to both of you for your advice. However, my issue is that I would prefer it if vector<list<char>::iterator> was instead a container which is restricted to only containing iterators of the particular list<char> which I called characters; rather than accepting any list<char>::iterator.
 
Paul
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