- Give God your all (live true faith) - 7 Updates
| Cholo Lennon <chololennon@hotmail.com>: Jun 02 12:12PM -0300 On 06/02/2016 10:33 AM, James Lothian wrote: > Rick C. Hodgin wrote: >> Give God your all (live true faith): > Time for some killfile maintenance. Sigh. +1 Why religious nuts keep coming to comp.lang.*? They are a pest :-( -- Cholo Lennon Bs.As. ARG |
| Mr Flibble <flibbleREMOVETHISBIT@i42.co.uk>: Jun 02 05:01PM +0100 On 02/06/2016 13:59, David Brown wrote: > ... idiotic claims that "evolution > disproves the Bible" ... Evolution is a fact but the Bible is at odds with evolution being a fact ergo evolution disproves the Bible. Simples. /Flibble |
| "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com>: Jun 02 09:07AM -0700 Mr Flibble wrote: > Evolution is a fact Evolution of the kind "molecules to man" is not a fact, has never had even the tiniest inkling of a far reaching stretch of possible correctness, and is currently being systematically dismantled by genetics research. Evolution is a fairy tale. > but the Bible is at odds with evolution being a fact ergo evolution > disproves the Bible. Simples. God is the creator. Evolution does not exist. It is only because you are not seeking the truth that it eludes you. Best regards, Rick C. Hodgin |
| Mr Flibble <flibbleREMOVETHISBIT@i42.co.uk>: Jun 02 05:10PM +0100 On 02/06/2016 17:07, Rick C. Hodgin wrote: > Evolution is a fairy tale. So you assert (with no evidence to backup that assertion). > God is the creator. So you assert (with no evidence to backup that assertion). > Evolution does not exist. So you assert (with no evidence to backup that assertion). > It is only because you > are not seeking the truth that it eludes you. So you assert (with no evidence to backup that assertion). /Flibble |
| David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no>: Jun 02 08:45PM +0200 On 02/06/16 16:15, JiiPee wrote: >> can advise you that people will not like it. > but I think here its more like an issue: preaching in a class room vs > preaching on the streets I don't really think public streets are an appropriate place for preaching either. A quiet stand where people can come to /you/ for information is okay, but someone waving banners and shouting "the end is nigh" or "repent your sins" is a public nuisance. > So its not about do people like it, its more about is it right/legal? Certainly there is nothing illegal about posting things here, as long as they don't break normal free speech laws (such as inciting hatred, etc.) - though it is far from clear which country's laws would apply. As for what is "right" or "wrong", I would regard what people "like" as being the main way to judge that. A Usenet group is made up of the people who frequent it - and their "group opinion", to the extent that it exists, is what determines what is right or wrong behaviour in that group. > so much about people liking it. > For example if its illegal/wrong, then there is no way there the message > is gonna be accepted by anybody. People accept wrong (and illegal) messages all the time. There are vast numbers of Christians, Muslims, Hindus, Buddhists, etc., and also vast numbers of atheists. Many of these have probably only ever heard one "message" in all their lives, but many have heard different ones and picked different ones as "true" for them. But one thing for certain is that they are not /all/ right - most people have got things profoundly wrong. > And maybe this is one of the reasons actually that its many times a bit > waste of time to spread these "good messages" becouse how can people > trust it? How can people know its true what the message says? You've hit the nail on the head here. A Usenet post giving fantastic news is never going to be believed, especially when it comes with no evidence or justification. |
| David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no>: Jun 02 08:56PM +0200 On 02/06/16 18:01, Mr Flibble wrote: >> disproves the Bible" ... > Evolution is a fact but the Bible is at odds with evolution being a fact > ergo evolution disproves the Bible. Simples. Yes, evolution is a fact (to the extent that it is possible to describe something as large and complex as the term "evolution" in such simple words). But no, the Bible is not at odds with evolution. The Bible provides one explanation for how humans, and nature around us, arose - evolution provides another explanation. The Bible's one provides no evidence or justification, while evolution is strongly grounded in historical evidence, science, rational theories, and experimental evidence. But the Bible's story cannot be disproved by rational logic or science - if you first accept the idea of God being omnipotent, then "God made it look that way and created all that evidence" trumps any logic. Or even, if you prefer, "/Satan/ made it look that way and created all that evidence (and God let him for reasons unfathomable by mortal men)". And of course evolution only relates to one part of the Bible - a few verses in the oldest book. Even if you - incorrectly - believe that evolution /disproves/ the Bible's creation stories, it does not relate directly to the rest of it. The Bible is not one single hypothesis that can be proved or disproved in an all-or-nothing manner. Evolution makes the Bible's creation stories, like the creation stories of other religions, unnecessary - those were just stories written by people long ago who didn't understand what was really going on. But talking about "disproving" the stories gives those stories far too much credit - like the "intelligent design" nonsense, these are not rational or scientific hypotheses, and cannot be "disproved" any more than they can be painted yellow or glued to a wall. The term simply doesn't make sense in that context. |
| Mr Flibble <flibbleREMOVETHISBIT@i42.co.uk>: Jun 02 10:13PM +0100 On 02/06/2016 19:56, David Brown wrote: > rational or scientific hypotheses, and cannot be "disproved" any more > than they can be painted yellow or glued to a wall. The term simply > doesn't make sense in that context. Evolution is a fact. Evolution disproves the Bible, period. /Flibble |
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