Sunday, March 19, 2017

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Jorgen Grahn <grahn+nntp@snipabacken.se>: Mar 19 08:38PM

On Tue, 2017-03-14, Stefan Ram wrote:
> performance.
 
>>Perhaps there's another container which will work: any thoughts? TIA
 
> You don't need a different container, you need abstraction.
 
For example a Row object which might hold a private vector {"2", "3"},
but report the values "0", "2", "3".
 
Or holds the original string, and parses it on demand.
 
/Jorgen
 
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aminer68@gmail.com: Mar 19 01:37PM -0700

Hello,
 
 
About empirical Moral..
 
There is a priori pure moral, but also empirical moral..
 
This Bonita Montero doesn't know correctly about empirical moral, she thinks
that morality must be infered from harsh rules that don't take
into account empirical moral, you are kind of childish and your
intolerance shows that you lack empirical moral, and thus experience, thus
you are still not apt to manage teams of software programmers, and
you are still not apt to manage yourself correctly, so how
can i waste my time with a young female that is childish like
you ? Go your way you are still childish and you have to learn the prerequisites of moral.
 
 
Thank you,
Amine Moulay Ramdane.
aminer68@gmail.com: Mar 19 12:25PM -0700

Hello,
 
About this Bonita Montero...
 
I think Bonita Montero is still young...
 
I have get a Diploma of a technician in Microelectronics in 1988 , and i have done mathematics when i have studies Microelectronics,
an i have also succeeded one year of pure mathematics at the university
level of mathematics, and i have bought 1000 books of mathematics and informatics and operational research since 1989, and i have studied operational research also, so this Bonita Montero don't know about me,
you have to know that i don't need your help because i have bought those 1000 books since 1989 and i am more exeperienced..
 
 
This Bonita Monero is still young and she doesn't understand..
 
 
Thank you,
Amine Moulay Ramdane.
aminer68@gmail.com: Mar 19 12:35PM -0700


> This Bonita Monero is still young and she doesn't understand..
 
> Thank you,
> Amine Moulay Ramdane.
 
 
Read again i correct my english..
 
 
Hello,
 
About this Bonita Montero...
 
I think Bonita Montero is still young...
 
I have got a Diploma of a technician in Microelectronics in 1988 , and i have done mathematics when i have studied Microelectronics,
an i have also succeeded one year of pure mathematics at the university
level of mathematics, and i have bought 1000 books of mathematics and informatics and operational research since 1989, and i have studied operational research also, so this Bonita Montero don't know about me,
you have to know that i don't need your help because i have bought those 1000 books since 1989 and i am more experienced..
 
 
This Bonita Monero is still young and she doesn't understand..
 
 
Thank you,
Amine Moulay Ramdane.
Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com>: Mar 19 08:36PM +0100

What I know for sure is that you're mentally disordered.
And such people have a distorted perception of reality.
 
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fir <profesor.fir@gmail.com>: Mar 19 12:45PM -0700

W dniu niedziela, 19 marca 2017 20:36:20 UTC+1 użytkownik Bonita Montero napisał:
> And such people have a distorted perception of reality.
 
> --
> http://facebook.com/bonita.montero/
 
he is just plain idiot
aminer68@gmail.com: Mar 19 12:57PM -0700

On Sunday, March 19, 2017 at 3:36:20 PM UTC-4, Bonita Montero wrote:
> And such people have a distorted perception of reality.
 
> --
> http://facebook.com/bonita.montero/
 
 
You are still young and you are speaking childish, because
you don't know well what is survival, i have leaved in Morocco
and i know what is survival very well.
 
You are thinking that i am getting payed just by doing informatics,
you are still childish, i have worked as a network administrtor
and i have sold motherboards and computers, and i have worked as
a consultant in Perl, because i have done Perl also , and i have
worked like that in many companies and in many kind of jobs..
 
I have saw your photo on internet, and you are still a young female, and you are still childish, because you don't know about survival.
 
 
 
Thank you,
Amine Moulay Ramdane.
Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net>: Mar 19 03:58PM -0400

On 3/19/2017 3:45 PM, fir wrote:
 
>> --
>> http://facebook.com/bonita.montero/
 
> he is just plain idiot
 
What do you have against plain idiots to insult them like that?
 
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Paavo Helde <myfirstname@osa.pri.ee>: Mar 19 10:01PM +0200

On 19.03.2017 21:36, Bonita Montero wrote:
> What I know for sure is that you're mentally disordered.
> And such people have a distorted perception of reality.
 
Do not bother to talk to him, aminer/ramine is not able to keep up a
coherent conversation anyway.
 
On a related mark, ca 80% of the traffic in c.l.c++ seems to go to my
killfile nowadays. Not sure who to blame, the sunspot activity is not so
great...
Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com>: Mar 19 09:03PM +0100

I rather doubt you're successful in IT-business because you're not
able to handle even such toy-projects like yours without frequent
bug-updates.
 
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aminer68@gmail.com: Mar 19 01:10PM -0700

On Sunday, March 19, 2017 at 4:03:51 PM UTC-4, Bonita Montero wrote:
> bug-updates.
 
> --
> http://facebook.com/bonita.montero/
 
 
You are like childish repreating the same thing again and again...
 
You are thinking that programming is just doing large projects, an that's not correct thinking.
 
And you seem to think that my way of being payed is only by doing informatics..
 
You are still childish, because you don't think correctly because of lacking
empirical moral.
 
 
I will not waste my time with a young female that is childish like you.
 
Thank you,
Amine Moulay Ramdane.
Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com>: Mar 19 09:17PM +0100

> You are thinking that programming is just doing large projects, an that's not correct thinking.
 
If you really would be in business, you'd know that this is true for
almost any project.
Projects with a small extent like your toy synch-library don't appear
in reality.
 
> I will not waste my time with a young female that is childish like you.
 
Don't waste your time with any newsgroup.
Spam StackOverflow and see what you deserve.
 
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aminer68@gmail.com: Mar 19 01:00PM -0700

You are still young and you are speaking childish, because
you don't know well what is survival, i have livedin Morocco
and i have leaved Morocco and i know what is survival very well.
 
You are thinking that i am getting payed just by doing informatics,
you are still childish, i have worked as a network administrtor
and i have sold motherboards and computers, and i have worked as
a consultant in Perl, because i have done Perl also , and i have
worked like that in many companies and in many kind of jobs..
 
I have seen your photo on internet, and you are still a young female, and you are still childish, because you don't know about survival.
 
 
Thank you,
Amine Moulay Ramdane.
Ramine <toto@toto.net>: Mar 19 10:50AM -0400

On 3/19/2017 10:40 AM, Chris Vine wrote:
 
> Please stop publicizing your code, and posting on this newsgroup, until
> you have acquired the minimum knowledge to qualify you to do so. You
> are a walking disaster area.
 
You don't understand, i was aware that memory ordering is not the only
issue and that you have to use fences and atomics etc. but
what i am explaining to you is that my implementation of my algorithms
like my MLock and AMLock etc. already uses the correct fences to ensure
sequential consistency in the hardwre side, but what i need is to switch
the optimization off to avoid memory ordering
of the Delphi and FreePascal compilers.
 
 
Thank you,
Amine Moulay Ramdne.
Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net>: Mar 19 10:51AM -0400

On 3/19/2017 10:40 AM, Chris Vine wrote:
 
> Please stop publicizing your code, and posting on this newsgroup, until
> you have acquired the minimum knowledge to qualify you to do so. You
> are a walking disaster area.
 
Chris, I suggest you give it up. You would have better luck teaching
quantum physics to a pet rock (which is more intelligent than Ramine).
 
Ramine is a moron (as well as a sexist pig) who already knows everything.
 
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Ramine <toto@toto.net>: Mar 19 10:57AM -0400

On 3/19/2017 10:40 AM, Chris Vine wrote:
 
> Please stop publicizing your code, and posting on this newsgroup, until
> you have acquired the minimum knowledge to qualify you to do so. You
> are a walking disaster area.
 
Read again..
 
You don't understand, i was aware that memory ordering is not the only
issue and that you have to use fences and atomics etc. but
what i am explaining to you is that my implementation of my algorithms
like my MLock and AMLock etc. already uses the correct fences to ensure
sequential consistency in the hardware side, but what i need is to
switch the optimization off to avoid memory ordering
of the Delphi and FreePascal compilers.
 
 
Thank you,
Amine Moulay Ramdne.
Ramine <toto@toto.net>: Mar 19 10:57AM -0400

On 3/19/2017 10:51 AM, Jerry Stuckle wrote:
 
> Chris, I suggest you give it up. You would have better luck teaching
> quantum physics to a pet rock (which is more intelligent than Ramine).
 
> Ramine is a moron (as well as a sexist pig) who already knows everything.
 
Read again..
 
You don't understand, i was aware that memory ordering is not the only
issue and that you have to use fences and atomics etc. but
what i am explaining to you is that my implementation of my algorithms
like my MLock and AMLock etc. already uses the correct fences to ensure
sequential consistency in the hardware side, but what i need is to
switch the optimization off to avoid memory ordering
of the Delphi and FreePascal compilers.
 
 
Thank you,
Amine Moulay Ramdne.
Chris Vine <chris@cvine--nospam--.freeserve.co.uk>: Mar 19 03:05PM

On Sun, 19 Mar 2017 10:50:04 -0400
Ramine <toto@toto.net> wrote:
[snip]
> fences to ensure sequential consistency in the hardwre side, but what
> i need is to switch the optimization off to avoid memory ordering
> of the Delphi and FreePascal compilers.
 
In which case your original post which began this latest run of posts
was complete nonsense. If you have inserted your own fences at the
assembly level in your code and were relying on a (non-existent) no
reordering guarantee by Delphi for the rest, then you could not
possibly have come to the conclusion that this was less error prone or
more efficient than using C++ atomic variables, which do all of that
for you. (This includes acting as a compiler barrier to prevent
reordering around the atomic variable.)
 
So I repeat, please stop posting your opinions to this newsgroup until
you have acquired the minimum level of knowledge to qualify you to do
so. Until then, restrict yourself to questions about C++ only, and do
so without the perpetual repetition.
Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net>: Mar 19 03:57PM -0400

On 3/19/2017 10:57 AM, Ramine wrote:
> of the Delphi and FreePascal compilers.
 
> Thank you,
> Amine Moulay Ramdne.
 
I don't need to read anything again. You have repeatedly proven
yourself to be a sexist pig. And I apologize to all morons for calling
you a moron. You don't rate that high.
 
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aminer68@gmail.com: Mar 19 12:39PM -0700

Hello,
 
And i am not American, i don't need english here, i speak french here
in Quebec, i am from Morocco my country, and in Morocco we speak arabic and french.
 
Please read again i correct, to understand:
 

About this Bonita Montero...
 
I think Bonita Montero is still young...
 
I have got a Diploma of a technician in Microelectronics in 1988 , and i have done mathematics when i have studied Microelectronics,
an i have also succeeded one year of pure mathematics at the university
level of mathematics, and i have bought 1000 books of mathematics and informatics and operational research since 1989, and i have studied operational research also, so this Bonita Montero doesn't know about me,
you have to know that i don't need your help because i have bought those 1000 books since 1989 and i am more exeperienced..
 
 
This Bonita Monero is still young and she doesn't understand..
 
 
Thank you,
Amine Moulay Ramdane.
aminer68@gmail.com: Mar 19 12:27PM -0700

Hello,
 
About this Bonita Montero...
 
I think Bonita Montero is still young...
 
I have got a Diploma of a technician in Microelectronics in 1988 , and i have done mathematics when i have studies Microelectronics,
an i have also succeeded one year of pure mathematics at the university
level of mathematics, and i have bought 1000 books of mathematics and informatics and operational research since 1989, and i have studied operational research also, so this Bonita Montero don't know about me,
you have to know that i don't need your help because i have bought those 1000 books since 1989 and i am more exeperienced..
 
 
This Bonita Monero is still young and she doesn't understand..
 
 
Thank you,
Amine Moulay Ramdane.
Ramine <toto@toto.net>: Mar 19 02:55PM -0400

Hello,
 
You don't understand, i was aware that memory ordering is not the only
issue and that you have to use fences and memory barriers but
what i am explaining to you is that my implementation of my algorithms
like my MLock and AMLock etc. already uses the correct fences and memory
barriers to ensure sequential consistency in the hardware side, but what
i need is to switch the optimization off to avoid memory ordering of the
Delphi and FreePascal compilers.
 
That's easy to do, i have thought that Delphi and FreePascal doesn't
reorder loads and stores, but this was a mistake, but this mistake is
easy to correct, but mistakes in software programming can happen, but i
am confident that as soon as i correct this mistake, you will be happy
with my C++ Libraries.
 
 
So stay tuned !
 
 
Thank you,
Amine Moulay Ramdne.
Ramine <toto@toto.net>: Mar 19 03:03PM -0400

On 3/19/2017 2:55 PM, Ramine wrote:
> barriers to ensure sequential consistency in the hardware side, but what
> i need is to switch the optimization off to avoid memory ordering of the
> Delphi and FreePascal compilers.
 
 
I will switch the optimization off just locally on my MLock and AMLock
and some others, that's easy to do to avoid memory reordering of Delphi
and FreePascal..
 
 
sangitachowdhary@gmail.com: Mar 19 08:42AM -0700

On Sunday, March 19, 2017 at 10:26:47 AM UTC-4, Paavo Helde wrote:
 
> I mean, the definition of the static array must be placed outside of the
> class definition itself. In which file is this static array definition?
> Is this file compiled only into the shared library?
 
I have taken care of that but I just worked around and removed all static variables but this will keep me puzzled as I did not expect static variable having two instances based on how it has been invoked.
Thank you so much for your help.
Paavo Helde <myfirstname@osa.pri.ee>: Mar 19 06:17PM +0200


> I have taken care of that but I just worked around and removed all static variables but this will keep me puzzled as I did not expect static variable having two instances based on how it has been invoked.
 
The Linux/gcc linking model should avoid such things AFAIK, the symbol
visibility used by the dynamic linker is designed to mimic the standard
static library model, by default. It is possible to create a shared
library which has some or most symbols hidden, in which case it would be
indeed possible to have duplicate symbols in different libraries. But I
am no expert here, at the intertubes it seems they recommend to learn
 
https://software.intel.com/sites/default/files/m/a/1/e/dsohowto.pdf
 
Anyway, it is a Good Thing you got rid of the globals!
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