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| Melzzzzz <Melzzzzz@zzzzz.com>: Feb 07 05:26PM >> (Christopher Hitchens) once said that an assertion without evidence can >> be dismissed without evidence and I do indeed dismiss it. > Not everyone will be saved, Leigh. You can only be saved by anti-psyhotics...and you reject to be saved... -- press any key to continue or any other to quit... |
| "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com>: Feb 07 12:45PM -0500 On 2/7/2018 12:21 PM, Mr Flibble wrote: > the Bible is making is true without reference to the Bible itself (as it > is making the assertion). > What is your evidence that God created the firmament? I can't convince you, Leigh. No one can. Only when God draws a soul from within are you convinced, and that convincing comes not by words and examples here in nature, but by the spirit, and that's something you are not yet equipped to understand. We are three-fold beings, just as God is three-fold: Soul -> relates to: God the Father Body -> relates to: God the Son Spirit -> relates to: God the Holy Spirit Our spirit is dead because of sin (you can read this in Genesis 1-5). Jesus takes away our sin and gives us new spiritual life, and it is a precursor drawing before the day we come to Christ and ask Him to forgive us that God the Father draws us. It is the life growing before "birth" when we actually ask Jesus to forgive us. No one can convince you, Leigh. We can only teach you the truth. And all who are not drawn by God from within to know the truth will only mock it, demand proof, and profess and exclaim that it cannot possibly be true for reasons X, Y, Z, and others. But the Lord promises us, and I promise you from my own experience, that if you seek the truth with a real and sincere seeking, then God will open up your understanding, and you will be saved. -- Rick C. Hodgin |
| Mr Flibble <flibbleREMOVETHISBIT@i42.co.uk>: Feb 07 05:48PM On 07/02/2018 17:45, Rick C. Hodgin wrote: > But the Lord promises us, and I promise you from my own experience, > that if you seek the truth with a real and sincere seeking, then God > will open up your understanding, and you will be saved. Your answer is yet more assertions without evidence which can be dismissed without evidence and so are duly dismissed. Have a nice day. /Flibble -- "Suppose it's all true, and you walk up to the pearly gates, and are confronted by God," Bryne asked on his show The Meaning of Life. "What will Stephen Fry say to him, her, or it?" "I'd say, bone cancer in children? What's that about?" Fry replied. "How dare you? How dare you create a world to which there is such misery that is not our fault. It's not right, it's utterly, utterly evil." "Why should I respect a capricious, mean-minded, stupid God who creates a world that is so full of injustice and pain. That's what I would say." |
| "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com>: Feb 07 12:48PM -0500 On 2/7/2018 12:26 PM, Melzzzzz wrote: > On 2018-02-07, Rick C. Hodgin <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> wrote: >> Not everyone will be saved, Leigh. > You can only be saved by anti-psyhotics...and you reject to be saved... Salvation is a new life, Melzzzzz. It is spirit, not flesh. Once a person is saved they cannot be un-saved, just as a newborn baby cannot be un-born. And whereas here in the flesh you can kill the body and end the flesh-based life, the same is NOT true of our spirit. There are no weapons which can harm our spirit, and those God saves He is able to keep until that final day. You've been told the truth too, Melzzzzz. The reason you cannot hear it today is because you aren't (yet) being saved (if indeed you will ever be saved). When God begins to draw you from within, then you will know the truth, and that truth is compulsive and you will be made free by what God gifts to you ... if that day ever comes. -- Rick C. Hodgin |
| "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com>: Feb 07 12:53PM -0500 On 2/7/2018 12:48 PM, Mr Flibble wrote: >> will open up your understanding, and you will be saved. > Your answer is yet more assertions without evidence which can be > dismissed without evidence and so are duly dismissed. I don't think you read my reply. You have a tendency to gloss over those things you initially disagree with, which prevents you from hearing the details and learning the truth. As I stated previously, the devil is not in the details, he's in the glossing over of the details. You want to stay on the path to Hell, then do not investigate any of the things I have claimed. Do not seek the truth that I teach you is there wholly. Continue on as you have, and you will remain where you are today. But if you want to examine the possibility of there truly being a God, and the possibility that you truly have been duped by a world bent on your eternal soul's destruction ... then do so. The choice is yours. As I say, there will be no people going into Hell by accident. Only those who wholly rejected the truth with both hands, both feet, and everything else they're able to do so with, will cast themselves into Hell. It's your choice, Leigh. Make it a good one. At 4:43 into the video: www.youtube.com/watch?v=vjuQRCG_sUw&t=4m43s -- Rick C. Hodgin |
| Mr Flibble <flibbleREMOVETHISBIT@i42.co.uk>: Feb 07 05:57PM On 07/02/2018 17:53, Rick C. Hodgin wrote: > It's your choice, Leigh. Make it a good one. > At 4:43 into the video: > www.youtube.com/watch?v=vjuQRCG_sUw&t=4m43s Asserting something is true does not make it so (unless you have factual evidence to back that assertion up). Not a single one of your assertions have any evidence to back them up so are all summarily dismissed. Have a nice day. /Flibble -- "Suppose it's all true, and you walk up to the pearly gates, and are confronted by God," Bryne asked on his show The Meaning of Life. "What will Stephen Fry say to him, her, or it?" "I'd say, bone cancer in children? What's that about?" Fry replied. "How dare you? How dare you create a world to which there is such misery that is not our fault. It's not right, it's utterly, utterly evil." "Why should I respect a capricious, mean-minded, stupid God who creates a world that is so full of injustice and pain. That's what I would say." |
| "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com>: Feb 07 01:03PM -0500 On 2/7/2018 12:57 PM, Mr Flibble wrote: >> www.youtube.com/watch?v=vjuQRCG_sUw&t=4m43s > Asserting something is true does not make it so (unless you have factual > evidence to back that assertion up). Agree. The evidence is there before all of creation, but because of sin it is able to be wrongly dismissed. Because of sin it's possible to not see it as being valid, because there is another source (Satan and his demon spirit army) influencing you to believe other things. Because of sin you are unable to know the difference between the truth and falseness, which is how Satan is able to deceive you (and indeed all of mankind) so easily. > Not a single one of your > assertions have any evidence to back them up so are all summarily > dismissed. Disagree. But, you'll have to find that out for yourself. -- Rick C. Hodgin |
| Mr Flibble <flibbleREMOVETHISBIT@i42.co.uk>: Feb 07 06:07PM On 07/02/2018 18:03, Rick C. Hodgin wrote: > Because of sin you are unable to know the difference between the truth > and falseness, which is how Satan is able to deceive you (and indeed > all of mankind) so easily. More assertions; no evidence; summarily dismissed. >> Not a single one of your assertions have any evidence to back them up >> so are all summarily dismissed. > Disagree. But, you'll have to find that out for yourself. If you disagree then provide some evidence to back at least one of your assertions up. It is at this point that most Christians give up and say "it is a matter of faith" but of course you know my answer to that: faith is not evidence so cannot be used to backup an assertion. /Flibble -- "Suppose it's all true, and you walk up to the pearly gates, and are confronted by God," Bryne asked on his show The Meaning of Life. "What will Stephen Fry say to him, her, or it?" "I'd say, bone cancer in children? What's that about?" Fry replied. "How dare you? How dare you create a world to which there is such misery that is not our fault. It's not right, it's utterly, utterly evil." "Why should I respect a capricious, mean-minded, stupid God who creates a world that is so full of injustice and pain. That's what I would say." |
| Melzzzzz <Melzzzzz@zzzzz.com>: Feb 07 06:08PM > from within are you convinced, and that convincing comes not by words > and examples here in nature, but by the spirit, and that's something > you are not yet equipped to understand. You are equipped with lunacy, that is, so no one can convince you. -- press any key to continue or any other to quit... |
| Melzzzzz <Melzzzzz@zzzzz.com>: Feb 07 06:09PM >>> Not everyone will be saved, Leigh. >> You can only be saved by anti-psyhotics...and you reject to be saved... > Salvation is a new life, Melzzzzz. It is spirit, not flesh. You have to eat and shit until you die. Nothing spiritual about that... -- press any key to continue or any other to quit... |
| "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com>: Feb 07 01:12PM -0500 On 2/7/2018 1:09 PM, Melzzzzz wrote: >>> You can only be saved by anti-psyhotics...and you reject to be saved... >> Salvation is a new life, Melzzzzz. It is spirit, not flesh. > You have to eat and .. until you die. Nothing spiritual about that... That is our flesh existence. The new existence I point you to is spirit. Three-fold beings, Melzzzzz. Our flesh is our flesh until we leave this world and are given our eternal body. But our spirit is dead until we come to Christ and ask forgiveness. Only then is that new part of our existence added on to us. This new spirit causes us to change our lives. We may still make mistakes, but it won't be an ongoing pattern of behavior. It will be moments, and even in those moments you'll know it is wrong and you'll want to change. Satan is a taskmaster. He'll keep you focused only on the flesh if you'll let him. But for all who pursue God in spirit and in truth, the same are led by Him and His Holy Spirit. -- Rick C. Hodgin |
| Mr Flibble <flibbleREMOVETHISBIT@i42.co.uk>: Feb 07 06:13PM On 07/02/2018 18:12, Rick C. Hodgin wrote: > Satan is a taskmaster. He'll keep you focused only on the flesh if > you'll let him. But for all who pursue God in spirit and in truth, > the same are led by Him and His Holy Spirit. More assertions; no evidence; summarily dismissed. /Flibble -- "Suppose it's all true, and you walk up to the pearly gates, and are confronted by God," Bryne asked on his show The Meaning of Life. "What will Stephen Fry say to him, her, or it?" "I'd say, bone cancer in children? What's that about?" Fry replied. "How dare you? How dare you create a world to which there is such misery that is not our fault. It's not right, it's utterly, utterly evil." "Why should I respect a capricious, mean-minded, stupid God who creates a world that is so full of injustice and pain. That's what I would say." |
| Melzzzzz <Melzzzzz@zzzzz.com>: Feb 07 06:16PM >> You have to eat and .. until you die. Nothing spiritual about that... > That is our flesh existence. The new existence I point you to is > spirit. Three-fold beings, Melzzzzz. Dissapearance is not existence... Our flesh is our flesh until > we leave this world and are given our eternal body. Why are we hear in the first place then? Nothing is eternal except human stupidity, Rick. -- press any key to continue or any other to quit... |
| "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com>: Feb 07 01:25PM -0500 On 2/7/2018 1:16 PM, Melzzzzz wrote: >> That is our flesh existence. The new existence I point you to is >> spirit. Three-fold beings, Melzzzzz. > Dissapearance is not existence... To see you need an eye, not an ear. To hear you need an ear, not an eye. To understand things of the spirit you need the spirit, not the flesh. It's only invisible and seemingly non-existent because you do not possess the faculties to see it, because of what sin has done to you in condemning your soul to Hell, and dying spiritually. > Our flesh is our flesh until >> we leave this world and are given our eternal body. > Why are we hear in the first place then? God created the entire universe for us to be with Him. > Nothing is eternal except human stupidity, Rick. Human stupidity is eternal if it leads to an end other than coming to the salvation made possible by Jesus Christ. But, human stupidity is not the only thing that is eternal. Eternal life with God in Heaven is also eternal. -- Rick C. Hodgin |
| Daniel <danielaparker@gmail.com>: Feb 07 10:26AM -0800 On Wednesday, February 7, 2018 at 12:53:43 PM UTC-5, Rick C. Hodgin wrote: > > dismissed without evidence and so are duly dismissed. > But if you want to examine the possibility of there truly being a God > It's your choice So if I understand Rick correctly, he concedes there is no extant evidence that could convince a disinterested party of the truth value of the biblical texts. I think that's fair comment and that everybody can agree with that. He further seems to suggest that if such a disinterested party were to somehow suppress their disbelief, a god like entity would somehow pop into their heads and make the truth value of the biblical texts clear. But that suggestion seems to be on shakier ground. While Rick obviously feels that he's had such an experience himself, it's also true that lots of people have had things pop into their heads, as any psychiatrist can affirm. Daniel |
| "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com>: Feb 07 01:36PM -0500 On 2/7/2018 1:26 PM, Daniel wrote: > that suggestion seems to be on shakier ground. While Rick obviously feels > that he's had such an experience himself, it's also true that lots of > people have had things pop into their heads, as any psychiatrist can affirm. What I teach is what the Bible teaches, and what I personally found in 2004: Seek the truth. You won't be able to find it on your own, but if you seek it truly with a sincere seeking, God will see you doing this, and He will know your heart's intent. He will then come to you and lead you to knowledge of Himself, His Son, and give you eternal life. This world is a proving ground. A threshing floor. It is a place where the wheat is separated from the chaff. All who will not seek the truth are purged. Only those who will seek the truth are saved from judgment, and eternal Hellfire. Just seek the truth with an honest seeking. God will do the rest. -- Rick C. Hodgin |
| Melzzzzz <Melzzzzz@zzzzz.com>: Feb 07 06:38PM > To see you need an eye, not an ear. To hear you need an ear, not an > eye. To understand things of the spirit you need the spirit, not > the flesh. You can understand that there is no spirit? No? > to the salvation made possible by Jesus Christ. But, human stupidity > is not the only thing that is eternal. Eternal life with God in > Heaven is also eternal. There is no eternal life Rick, when you die, you are eternaly dead... -- press any key to continue or any other to quit... |
| "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com>: Feb 07 01:43PM -0500 On 2/7/2018 1:38 PM, Melzzzzz wrote: >> eye. To understand things of the spirit you need the spirit, not >> the flesh. > You can understand that there is no spirit? No? If you ever come to faith and are born again, you will be amazed at how intensely the presence of evil spirits at every corner are guiding the still-in-sin people of this world to their destruction. We can't see spiritual things because of sin. We only see the effects of spiritual things, but to our mind we can only conclude that those things are the result of the person doing bad things, and not the un- seen influence of an evil spirit tempting a person to do those things. >> is not the only thing that is eternal. Eternal life with God in >> Heaven is also eternal. > There is no eternal life Rick, when you die, you are eternaly dead... Only if you die with your sin still charged to you (meaning Jesus did not transfer it to Himself, thereby setting you free). The lake of fire is called "the second death": https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Revelation+20%3A14-15&version=KJV 14 And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death. 15 And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire. For those souls who die unforgiven ... it is only eternal torment. It's why God warns us in advance so we can repent and ask forgiveness. -- Rick C. Hodgin |
| Melzzzzz <Melzzzzz@zzzzz.com>: Feb 07 06:43PM > Just seek the truth with an honest seeking. God will do the rest. Just seek the truth with psychiatrist. Anti-psyhotics will do the rest.. -- press any key to continue or any other to quit... |
| "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com>: Feb 07 01:44PM -0500 On 2/7/2018 1:43 PM, Melzzzzz wrote: > On 2018-02-07, Rick C. Hodgin <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> wrote: >> Just seek the truth with an honest seeking. God will do the rest. > Just seek the truth with psychiatrist. Anti-psyhotics will do the rest.. You can only see with natural eyes, Melzzzzz, because you will not seek the truth. -- Rick C. Hodgin |
| Mr Flibble <flibbleREMOVETHISBIT@i42.co.uk>: Feb 07 06:46PM On 07/02/2018 18:36, Rick C. Hodgin wrote: > the truth are purged. Only those who will seek the truth are saved > from judgment, and eternal Hellfire. > Just seek the truth with an honest seeking. God will do the rest. More assertions; no evidence; summarily dismissed. /Flibble -- "Suppose it's all true, and you walk up to the pearly gates, and are confronted by God," Bryne asked on his show The Meaning of Life. "What will Stephen Fry say to him, her, or it?" "I'd say, bone cancer in children? What's that about?" Fry replied. "How dare you? How dare you create a world to which there is such misery that is not our fault. It's not right, it's utterly, utterly evil." "Why should I respect a capricious, mean-minded, stupid God who creates a world that is so full of injustice and pain. That's what I would say." |
| Real Troll <Real.Troll@Trolls.com>: Feb 07 02:40PM -0400 On 07/02/2018 17:12, Cholo Lennon wrote: > Indian programmers/students, they still use it a lot (just check other > forums like reddit or facebook). My "crystal ball" says the usage of > iostream.h in the metioned course can be traced to Turbo C/C++ ;-) If your crystal ball is working correctly then you should have posted a link to a free update to their 1990 Turbo C compiler/Editor. <https://www.embarcadero.com/free-tools/ccompiler> They have starter editions as well that are much better than their archaic Turbo C. We should aim to educate people here so that they can spread the word among their fellow students. |
| Melzzzzz <Melzzzzz@zzzzz.com>: Feb 07 06:45PM > archaic Turbo C. > We should aim to educate people here so that they can spread the word > among their fellow students. Teachers, teachers, not students ;p -- press any key to continue or any other to quit... |
| David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no>: Feb 06 04:53PM +0100 On 06/02/18 15:53, Scott Lurndal wrote: >> as long as you keep spamming this newsgroup, I will keep calling you that. > In fact, proselytizing and conversion attempts are no better than > mental rape. I would not say that (especially as I have no real concept of what "mental rape" might be - but it sounds bad). If you follow a religion, and believe it is "the truth" and of benefit to everyone (and if you don't believe that, why are you following it?) then it is understandable that you will want to tell people about it. Keeping the "truth" to yourself would be selfish. If you want to put up a sign outside your church saying "come and learn about god", that's fine. If people talk to you and ask you about your beliefs, and you try to persuade them of the "truth" as you see it, that's fine. If you want to put up a stand in a public place promoting your religion, that's okay in a limited way (the same as a stand promoting Greenpeace, or Save the Children, or whatever). Forcing people to listen to your proselytizing, or intruding upon other people is /not/ okay. But it is not "mental rape" - it's being a public nuisance or public disorder. It's like a Save the Children campaigner rattling their collection box under your nose as you walk down the street, saying "But don't you care about the children?". It is the kind of thing that gets you fined, not jailed. Forcing people to convert to your religion is a different matter - /that/ is a crime against humanity, and perhaps "mental rape". It has been done in all sorts of ways throughout history, and it is still done in many places today, for many religions (including Christianity, and including the western world). Equally, forcing someone to give up their religion is against their human rights. What Rick does here is /not/ a crime, or "mental rape". But he is being a public nuisance, it is abuse of the freedom of speech, and this Usenet group would be a far better place without his religious posts. The same, IMHO, applies to Mr. Flibble's so-called "satire". It was marginally witty the first time, but was tedious and irritating by the second faked post, and is as counter-productive and childish as Brian's anti-swearing campaign. (Of course we all want to keep Mr. Flibble's on-topic C++ posts.) Rick's off-topic posts are annoying, but there is no need to exaggerate them (especially as they are pathetic "conversion attempts"). And if Mr. Flibble follows through in his promise to cut the "satire", then hopefully the number of nonsense threads will die down for a bit. |
| woodbrian77@gmail.com: Feb 06 05:35PM -0800 On Tuesday, February 6, 2018 at 2:15:02 PM UTC-6, Chris Vine wrote: > > On Tue, 6 Feb 2018 10:47:37 -0800 (PST)> > > > Don't listen to the advice you have been given and particularly don't > > do a hard reset. That looked kind of sketchy to me so I didn't do any reset. > And of course, to then go back to your current master, do 'git checkout > master' (which will release your detached state and put you back > where you started, assuming you started on master branch). Thanks, that worked. Building the original version takes 6.4 seconds. The latest version takes 2.2 seconds. That's using g++ 7.3 to build both versions. Those are both without using the -j flag. The times are both faster if I add -j2. Jorgen Grahn's help in this thread with the makefiles was important and Thiago Adams' help in another thread where he suggested using an amalgamated approach was also a big help in making progress over the past year. Klaus Iglberger's talk at Cppcon about freeing your functions has also been helpful. Brian Ebenezer Enterprises - In G-d we trust. http://webEbenezer.net |
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