Monday, February 5, 2018

Digest for comp.lang.c++@googlegroups.com - 25 updates in 8 topics

"Öö Tiib" <ootiib@hot.ee>: Feb 04 11:16PM -0800

On Monday, 5 February 2018 00:49:55 UTC+2, Richard Damon wrote:
 
> If some new syntax was invented to require some change in the prototype
> so it wouldn't have been legal previously, then it could be added, but
> that wouldn't be the examples shown.
 
I'm not sure if signatures of functions have to be altered at all for
making named parameters. For example that proposal
http://www.open-std.org/JTC1/SC22/WG21/docs/papers/2014/n4172.htm
seems to make it responsibility of compiler, rather than linker.
Cholo Lennon <chololennon@hotmail.com>: Feb 05 12:57PM -0300

On 02/02/18 20:09, Mr Flibble wrote:
> second part is addressed by (3) above.
 
> Am I mistaken?
 
> Thoughts?
 
Well, my experience with Java (which lacks of optional arguments)
sometimes is frustating: I have multiple function definitions when just
one would be enough (and now with Java 8's Optional<T> the situation is
worse). Having said that, I agree with Stroustroup that the use of
default arguments can avoid code replication.
 
Also I admit that I don't like many optional arguments in a function. I
would prefer to have something like Python's named parameters.
 
Regards
 
--
Cholo Lennon
Bs.As.
ARG
"Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com>: Feb 04 04:09PM -0800

On Sunday, February 4, 2018 at 5:51:59 PM UTC-5, Chris M. Thomasson wrote:
> He did not want to converse with me anymore via email because I used the
> word damn.
 
If you think that was really the reason, then I am sorry for you.
 
--
Rick C. Hodgin
"Chris M. Thomasson" <invalid_chris_thomasson@invalid.invalid>: Feb 04 04:19PM -0800

On 2/4/2018 4:09 PM, Rick C. Hodgin wrote:
>> He did not want to converse with me anymore via email because I used the
>> word damn.
 
> If you think that was really the reason, then I am sorry for you.
 
You can post the emails if you want.
"Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com>: Feb 04 04:29PM -0800

On Sunday, February 4, 2018 at 7:19:15 PM UTC-5, Chris M. Thomasson wrote:
> >> word damn.
 
> > If you think that was really the reason, then I am sorry for you.
 
> You can post the emails if you want.
 
-----[ Begin ]-----
Jul 18, 2017
I reply to you now so you'll know this:
 
All of your emails (to me, or when sent from Google Groups automatically emailing me of your replies to posts I'm subscribed to) have a filter setup against them. They are automatically marked as read and sent to the Trash folder. I only see them when I go to empty trash, or when I'm actually on Google Groups. When I am on Google Groups and I see your name on a post, I collapse the post without reading it.
 
Why do I do this to you?
 
Because you have no interest in seeking the truth, Chris. You aren't asking real questions, but you are just a pretender poking away with little twists (things which appear outwardly to have some sort of truth-seeking, but truly do not, and are just knives from the enemy thrust into your being so you can lash out and tear and slice away with his twisting tongue).
 
I completely turn my back on your online presence as a part of my life until you repent. I will not read anything you write, and I will have no further online communication with you of any kind. And each time I see your name on something, I will remember you in my prayers because I know that it is only God who can turn that hard heart you possess around, and restore you to life. I pray that day comes sooner rather than later.
 
Good bye, Chris. This will be my last reply to you forever ... unless some point later you repent and apologize for the hurt and harm you've done.
 
Signed,
Rick C. Hodgin
-----[ End ]-----
 
You are that same way today.
 
--
Rick C. Hodgin
"Chris M. Thomasson" <invalid_chris_thomasson@invalid.invalid>: Feb 04 08:21PM -0800

On 2/4/2018 4:29 PM, Rick C. Hodgin wrote:
> Jul 18, 2017
> I reply to you now so you'll know this:
 
> All of your emails (to me, or when sent from Google Groups automatically emailing me of your replies to posts I'm subscribed to) have a filter setup against them. They are automatically marked as read and sent to the Trash folder. I only see them when I go to empty trash, or when I'm actually on Google Groups. When I am on Google Groups and I see your name on a post, I collapse the post without reading it.
 
I only sent you, what was it, two or three emails? You can post them all
for context.
 
David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no>: Feb 05 10:45AM +0100

On 04/02/18 23:51, Chris M. Thomasson wrote:
>> further with him by email, where it belongs.
 
> He did not want to converse with me anymore via email because I used the
> word damn.
 
Look, he does not want to converse with /anyone/ about his religious
ideas. He wants to pontificate - he has no interest in listening, or
thinking. He has painted himself into a corner in his religion - he
believes he really understands "god", and that anyone who disagrees with
him is by definition inspired by the devil. Since everyone /does/
disagree with him on at least some points, clearly /everyone/ is
possessed by the devil. And resisting other opinions or facts,
preferably by sticking his fingers in his ears and shouting "la, la, la,
I can't here you!", is therefore proving his loyalty to his god. It is
a vicious circle, with Rick and those around him being the primary
losers. But the more you post in threads like this, the more /you/
lose, and the more other members of the Usenet group lose.
 
Rick is happy to converse on technical matters, and I would be happy to
do so too, but he prefers to pretend I don't exist.
"Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com>: Feb 05 02:39AM -0800

On Sunday, February 4, 2018 at 11:22:02 PM UTC-5, Chris M. Thomasson wrote:
> On 2/4/2018 4:29 PM, Rick C. Hodgin wrote:
> I only sent you, what was it, two or three emails? You can post them all
> for context.
 
It is your pattern of posting on Usenet, Chris. You mock and
you delight in mocking. You ask illegitimate questions from that
same mocking point of view, laughing all the while.
 
You have no interest in the truth, and:
 
> > You are that same way today.
 
It keeps you on the path of the damned.
 
--
Rick C. Hodgin
"Öö Tiib" <ootiib@hot.ee>: Feb 05 03:21AM -0800

On Monday, 5 February 2018 11:45:45 UTC+2, David Brown wrote:
> thinking. He has painted himself into a corner in his religion - he
> believes he really understands "god", and that anyone who disagrees with
> him is by definition inspired by the devil.
 
There may be strong reasons for it. For example people with very
high self-esteem (assholes) tend to do mistakes. Since assholes
are over average careless such mistakes can have rather bad
consequences. It may be even so that there are no other persons
to accuse. Then they can't accept it that it was all their own fault.
On such case it is relief for them to believe that powerful
supernatural enemies did use their ignorance, stupidity, fallibility
and lack of foresight to orchestrate that disaster. Also it comforts
them to believe that there is "god" who can forgive them even
when they can't forgive that fully to themselves. Further, spoiling
the good mood of others around them with their repetitively
expressed lunacy makes every asshole also to feel better. So it
must be correct as it feels so good. But from side it looks mad and
repulsive.
"Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com>: Feb 05 07:54AM -0500

On 2/5/2018 6:21 AM, Öö Tiib wrote:
>> him is by definition inspired by the devil.
 
> There may be strong reasons for it. For example people with very
> high self-esteem...
 
 
It could also be for another reason. It could be for the one I'm
trying to teach you:
 
(1) You have sin.
(2) Sin condemns one's soul to Hell.
(3) Jesus came to take away our sin and save us from condemnation.
(4) All He asks you to do is ask Him to forgive you and He will.
For free.
 
It could be for that reason, Öö Tiib. And I still don't know how to
pronounce your name. In my mind I'm referring to you as "Oh Teeb."
:-)
 
--
Rick C. Hodgin
Daniel <danielaparker@gmail.com>: Feb 05 06:40AM -0800

On Monday, February 5, 2018 at 4:45:45 AM UTC-5, David Brown wrote:
 
> Look, he does not want to converse with /anyone/ about his religious
> ideas. he has no interest in ... thinking.
 
Of course not. Thoughts would only frighten him.
"Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com>: Feb 05 09:52AM -0500

On 2/5/2018 9:40 AM, Daniel wrote:
 
>> Look, he does not want to converse with /anyone/ about his religious
>> ideas. he has no interest in ... thinking.
 
> Of course not. Thoughts would only frighten him.
 
 
The same thing could be said about you ... and the cross. To come to
the foot of the cross is to look up to the one who paid the price for
your sin ... or the one who could've had you let Him.
 
In any event, to look into the eyes of the one on the cross is wholly
condemning, and moves you on the inside in a way nothing else can.
 
I encourage each of you to:
 
THINK about the Lord upon that cross.
THINK about your sin.
THINK about what happens to you after you leave this world.
THINK about your future.
 
And THINK about why Jesus came to this Earth and died upon that cross.
If you come to the foot of the cross it will rattle your soul ...
forever.
 
--
Rick C. Hodgin
"Öö Tiib" <ootiib@hot.ee>: Feb 05 07:23AM -0800

On Monday, 5 February 2018 14:54:37 UTC+2, Rick C. Hodgin wrote:
> (4) All He asks you to do is ask Him to forgive you and He will.
> For free.
 
> It could be for that reason, Öö Tiib.
 
List of your beliefs can't be reason why you are incapable to converse,
to listen or to think about those. I was just suggesting a reason how
unfortunate events can make some people to become sectarian like
that.
 
> And I still don't know how to
> pronounce your name. In my mind I'm referring to you as "Oh Teeb."
> :-)
 
Perhaps I have told you but sounds and letters are just symbols;
protocol of communication. I'm real person not those sounds and
letters.
woodbrian77@gmail.com: Feb 04 09:06PM -0800

On Sunday, February 4, 2018 at 11:49:20 AM UTC-6, Rick C. Hodgin wrote:
> If you are doing what you are doing for reward and punishment then it
> isn't really morality.
 
"Without faith it is impossible to please Him, for whoever
would draw near to G-d must believe that He exists and that
He rewards those who seek Him." Hebrews 11:6
 
https://www.desiringgod.org/articles/christian-hedonism
"Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com>: Feb 05 08:51AM -0500

> would draw near to G-d must believe that He exists and that
> He rewards those who seek Him." Hebrews 11:6
 
> https://www.desiringgod.org/articles/christian-hedonism
 
 
There's a video by Steve Lawson that speaks about what it costs to be
a true Christian. He also goes over a passage of scripture where Jesus
stop, and turns to the large crowd following Him, and warns them that
unless they love Him more than others, they cannot be His disciple.
 
Many turned away at these types of chastenings, because they really
didn't love Jesus, they just wanted to follow the crowd.
 
It Will Cost You Everything
Pastor Steve Lawson

http://www.libsf.org/audio/steve_lawson__it_will_cost_you_everything.mp3
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VxnCD-yffWo
 
The cost of everything is not a loss, but a gain, meaning as you give
those things the Lord has already given to you back to Him, He begins
to bless you and increase those things to which you have charge over.
 
Christians are in training. The Lord is seeking for those who will
truly serve Him from within, from a deep love of what's right, from
their willingness to be obedient to Him and teach others His teachings.
 
We're like athletes. Some seek Olympic gold, some just want to compete
in a local 2K marathon. Others just want to do it for exercise.
 
Why do you want to serve the Lord? To appease your conscience? Or do
you have a deep, inner desire and love for the Lord that makes you want
to put in the time and effort, to hone your knowledge of Him, to go into
this world teaching those things to the people they won't hear from the
other sources out there?
 
True Christianity is rare. It's a thing of great value and beauty. It
is reserved for those who are called, who answer the call, and who press
in diligently in service to Him. Others will be saved, but because of
their complacency and unwillingness to stand up for God ahead of the
many draws and pulls and lusts of this world tugging at them from all
directions, they never do mature, they never do step forward and serve
God, but instead they follow after those lusts getting bogged down at
every corner.
 
The Lord is looking for doers. He's looking for those who will serve
Him from within with a true love, and a real passion for who He is, what
He has done, what He is doing, and a deep love for those around us here
in this world, to look past their hatred and outward attacks, and seek
that inner man, the relationship that can be had once the walls of pride
and arrogance are overcome.
 
--
Thank you! | Indianapolis, Indiana | God is love -- 1 John 4:7-9
Rick C. Hodgin | http://www.libsf.org/ | http://tinyurl.com/yaogvqhj
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"Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com>: Feb 05 09:02AM -0500

On 2/5/2018 8:51 AM, Rick C. Hodgin wrote:
>     Pastor Steve Lawson
 
> http://www.libsf.org/audio/steve_lawson__it_will_cost_you_everything.mp3
>     https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VxnCD-yffWo
 
He has preached this sermon several times. Here's one that's in video
form:
 
Recorded at Community of Faith Bible Church
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xtk0I0Rp9vs
 
 
--
Thank you! | Indianapolis, Indiana | God is love -- 1 John 4:7-9
Rick C. Hodgin | http://www.libsf.org/ | http://tinyurl.com/yaogvqhj
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Juha Nieminen <nospam@thanks.invalid>: Feb 05 06:50AM

>> __________________
 
>> Sorry buddy, but you are fired!
 
> That's C code
 
Is it C code from like the times of K&R C (when you couldn't even
return a struct from a function by value)?
Ian Collins <ian-news@hotmail.com>: Feb 05 07:54PM +1300

On 02/05/2018 07:50 PM, Juha Nieminen wrote:
 
>> That's C code
 
> Is it C code from like the times of K&R C (when you couldn't even
> return a struct from a function by value)?
 
Why would you want to return something that had been dynamically
allocated by value?
 
--
Ian
"Öö Tiib" <ootiib@hot.ee>: Feb 04 11:45PM -0800

On Monday, 5 February 2018 08:54:59 UTC+2, Ian Collins wrote:
> > return a struct from a function by value)?
 
> Why would you want to return something that had been dynamically
> allocated by value?
 
It seems he meant that the very allocation is likely pointless.
Allocating that SubStr seems like allocating new std::string and
then returning std::string* instead of std::string by value.
Theoretically there may be reason but it is hard to find sane code
base dong that.
"James R. Kuyper" <jameskuyper@verizon.net>: Feb 05 08:25AM -0500

On 02/05/2018 01:54 AM, Ian Collins wrote:
>> return a struct from a function by value)?
 
> Why would you want to return something that had been dynamically
> allocated by value?
 
You wouldn't. You'd write something like this instead:
 
static SubStr
SubStr_new_u(unsigned char *s, unsigned int l)
{
SubStr r;
r.str = (char*)s;
r.len = l;
return r;
}
Juha Nieminen <nospam@thanks.invalid>: Feb 05 06:53AM

>> this Usenet newsgroup?
 
> If you want me to have discourse with you, you'll have to stop posting
> your hateful identity theft posts.
 
Why don't you just fuck off, you fucking spammer?
"Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com>: Feb 05 02:34AM -0800

On Monday, February 5, 2018 at 1:53:43 AM UTC-5, Juha Nieminen wrote:
> > If you want me to have discourse with you, you'll have to stop posting
> > your hateful identity theft posts.
 
> Why don't you just .., you .. spammer?
 
FWIW, I do care about you and your future, Juha. God has made
a way for us to be forgiven for our sin, to give us eternal life.
 
It is only that I teach you and point you toward. It is important
information to you personally.
 
--
Rick C. Hodgin
Juha Nieminen <nospam@thanks.invalid>: Feb 05 06:48AM

> I know it seems like I'm off-topic, but that's part of the teaching here.
 
It SEEMS like you are off-topic? Not only are you a dishonest liar and
a fucking spammer, you are also a mental retard.
Juha Nieminen <nospam@thanks.invalid>: Feb 05 06:45AM

> I've been looking for a new laptop and was leaning toward
> Windows 10. What about Windows 8? Is it also a mess?
 
As an operating system, I suppose Win10 is a better choice at
this point than Win7 or Win8 because Win10 is much better supported by
Microsoft. I just wish they added a option to make it look&feel
like Win7. But I suppose that's too much to wish. Microsoft
has decided that everything must look as flat and simplistic
as possible, even at the cost of usability, and probably nothing
is going to change their mind.
"Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com>: Feb 04 04:10PM -0800

On Sunday, February 4, 2018 at 6:29:16 PM UTC-5, Rick C. Hodgin wrote:
> There are grown adults who...
 
I, the real Rick C. Hodgin, did not write this post.
 
Please examine the headers to see that there is someone usurping my
identity (and without my permission). I post from Eternal September
and Google Groups only.
 
--
Rick C. Hodgin
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