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| leigh.v.johnston@googlemail.com: Feb 07 04:23AM -0800 Evidence the Bible is true: none. Evidence evolution is a fact: plenty. /Leigh |
| "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com>: Feb 07 04:56AM -0800 https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Psalm+19%3A1-7%3BRomans+1%3A18-32&version=KJV -- Rick C. Hodgin |
| leigh.v.johnston@googlemail.com: Feb 07 08:40AM -0800 Assertions are not evidence and using the Bible to assert that the Bible is true is circular (see my flying spaghetti monster satirical post from the other day). /Leigh |
| "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com>: Feb 07 11:58AM -0500 > Assertions are not evidence and using the Bible to assert that the Bible is true is circular (see my flying spaghetti monster satirical post from the other day). > /Leigh The Bible teaches something, but it is reality which evidences it. The Bible gives us God's guidance on things, but it is the nature of reality and our existence which confirms that what the Bible teaches is accurate. -- Rick C. Hodgin |
| Melzzzzz <Melzzzzz@zzzzz.com>: Feb 07 05:00PM > The Bible gives us God's guidance on things, but it is the nature > of reality and our existence which confirms that what the Bible > teaches is accurate. Your reality is pure illusion... -- press any key to continue or any other to quit... |
| Mr Flibble <flibbleREMOVETHISBIT@i42.co.uk>: Feb 07 05:04PM On 07/02/2018 16:58, Rick C. Hodgin wrote: > The Bible gives us God's guidance on things, but it is the nature > of reality and our existence which confirms that what the Bible > teaches is accurate. "The heavens declare the glory of God; and the firmament sheweth his handywork." is an assertion with no evidence to back it up. A great man (Christopher Hitchens) once said that an assertion without evidence can be dismissed without evidence and I do indeed dismiss it. /Flibble -- "Suppose it's all true, and you walk up to the pearly gates, and are confronted by God," Bryne asked on his show The Meaning of Life. "What will Stephen Fry say to him, her, or it?" "I'd say, bone cancer in children? What's that about?" Fry replied. "How dare you? How dare you create a world to which there is such misery that is not our fault. It's not right, it's utterly, utterly evil." "Why should I respect a capricious, mean-minded, stupid God who creates a world that is so full of injustice and pain. That's what I would say." |
| "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com>: Feb 07 12:06PM -0500 On 2/7/2018 12:04 PM, Mr Flibble wrote: > handywork." is an assertion with no evidence to back it up. A great man > (Christopher Hitchens) once said that an assertion without evidence can > be dismissed without evidence and I do indeed dismiss it. Not everyone will be saved, Leigh. -- Rick C. Hodgin |
| Mr Flibble <flibbleREMOVETHISBIT@i42.co.uk>: Feb 07 05:15PM On 07/02/2018 17:06, Rick C. Hodgin wrote: >> man (Christopher Hitchens) once said that an assertion without >> evidence can be dismissed without evidence and I do indeed dismiss it. > Not everyone will be saved, Leigh. In other words you cannot back up your argument, as usual. You are not very good at this are you mate? /Flibble -- "Suppose it's all true, and you walk up to the pearly gates, and are confronted by God," Bryne asked on his show The Meaning of Life. "What will Stephen Fry say to him, her, or it?" "I'd say, bone cancer in children? What's that about?" Fry replied. "How dare you? How dare you create a world to which there is such misery that is not our fault. It's not right, it's utterly, utterly evil." "Why should I respect a capricious, mean-minded, stupid God who creates a world that is so full of injustice and pain. That's what I would say." |
| "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com>: Feb 07 12:17PM -0500 On 2/7/2018 12:04 PM, Mr Flibble wrote: > handywork." is an assertion with no evidence to back it up. A great man > (Christopher Hitchens) once said that an assertion without evidence can > be dismissed without evidence and I do indeed dismiss it. I don't know if you think statements like this bother me? Or if you feel like you're getting one-up on me? I present you the truth of God as is revealed in the Bible, and in all of creation. I've presented to you evidence that DNA could not possibly have come about by random chance, and that evolution is now completely disproven by an examination of the workings of DNA, and what we've found is so staggeringly evidencing of design that even Richard Dawkins now admits intelligent design (though he ascribes it to aliens seeding the planet). This information I give you is the truth, Leigh. If you are unable or unwilling to accept it it's not my fault. It's because you aren't being saved. It's because you're not willing to hear the truth, or if you are hearing it you're more willing to dismiss it than accept it. Our relationship is me teaching, and me also listening to you in your responses to learn how to be a better teacher, but that's it. You don't owe me anything. If you're content to go through life without investigating these things I point out to you then fine. Don't. I've told you what the risk is of not pursuing these things, that you will be wrong, that you are deceived, and that your eternal soul will be cast into eternal Hellfire. If that means nothing to you, then don't investigate it. My hands are completely clean of your blood because I have taught you the truth. It is not my job to make you believe it, nor could I ever do so. Only God can draw you, and that drawing is internal, not external. -- Rick C. Hodgin |
| "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com>: Feb 07 12:19PM -0500 On 2/7/2018 12:00 PM, Melzzzzz wrote: >> of reality and our existence which confirms that what the Bible >> teaches is accurate. > Your reality is pure illusion... I know in whom I have believed, Melzzzzz. I put my entire life in His hands. And in my weakness, in so doing, am I made strong because it's not by me that I am saved, but it's only by Him. He knows my true heart, and my desire to do what's right even though I fail so very often. -- Rick C. Hodgin |
| Mr Flibble <flibbleREMOVETHISBIT@i42.co.uk>: Feb 07 05:21PM On 07/02/2018 17:17, Rick C. Hodgin wrote: > you the truth. It is not my job to make you believe it, nor could > I ever do so. Only God can draw you, and that drawing is internal, > not external. The Bible asserts that God created the firmament without evidence of same. The fact that the firmament exists is not evidence that God created it. Please provide some independent evidence that the assertion the Bible is making is true without reference to the Bible itself (as it is making the assertion). What is your evidence that God created the firmament? /Flibble -- "Suppose it's all true, and you walk up to the pearly gates, and are confronted by God," Bryne asked on his show The Meaning of Life. "What will Stephen Fry say to him, her, or it?" "I'd say, bone cancer in children? What's that about?" Fry replied. "How dare you? How dare you create a world to which there is such misery that is not our fault. It's not right, it's utterly, utterly evil." "Why should I respect a capricious, mean-minded, stupid God who creates a world that is so full of injustice and pain. That's what I would say." |
| Louis Krupp <lkrupp@nospam.pssw.com.invalid>: Feb 06 11:04PM -0700 >https://unacademy.com/course/concepts-of-c/38RLD30R In the above page, "implement" is missing an "i", and there's no need to capitalize "Programs." In lesson 2, the first program: #include <iostream.h> int main() { int n; n = 4; cout << n; return 0; } doesn't compile with g++ version 7.2.1: pvr1.cxx:1:10: fatal error: iostream.h: No such file or directory #include <iostream.h> This version of the program compiles, and produces cleaner results with a newline after the output: #include <iostream> int main() { int n; n = 4; std::cout << n << std::endl; return 0; } Louis |
| Ian Collins <ian-news@hotmail.com>: Feb 07 08:22PM +1300 On 02/07/2018 07:04 PM, Louis Krupp wrote: > to capitalize "Programs." > In lesson 2, the first program: > #include <iostream.h> Any "tutorial" that includes this should be ignored! -- Ian. |
| Cholo Lennon <chololennon@hotmail.com>: Feb 07 10:04AM -0300 On 07/02/18 04:22, Ian Collins wrote: >> In lesson 2, the first program: >> #include <iostream.h> > Any "tutorial" that includes this should be ignored! You're right. Nowadays it's inadmissible that people still have in their minds "iostream.h" :-O But I have to say that it's not weird at all, people in India still use the ancient Turbo C/C++. Why? it's a mystery to me. -- Cholo Lennon Bs.As. ARG |
| "Öö Tiib" <ootiib@hot.ee>: Feb 07 05:52AM -0800 On Wednesday, 7 February 2018 15:05:10 UTC+2, Cholo Lennon wrote: > minds "iostream.h" :-O > But I have to say that it's not weird at all, people in India still use > the ancient Turbo C/C++. Why? it's a mystery to me. India's education budget is something like 45 US$ in average per student annually so nothing mysterious there. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Education_in_India#/media/File:Elementary_School.jpg |
| "James R. Kuyper" <jameskuyper@verizon.net>: Feb 07 09:21AM -0500 On 02/07/2018 08:52 AM, Öö Tiib wrote: > On Wednesday, 7 February 2018 15:05:10 UTC+2, Cholo Lennon wrote: ... > India's education budget is something like 45 US$ in average per student > annually so nothing mysterious there. > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Education_in_India#/media/File:Elementary_School.jpg Budget constraints can't be sufficient justification for that choice, because there are several free compilers, even for Windows, that are much more up-to-date and do a much better job of compiling the code than Turbo C/C++. |
| "James R. Kuyper" <jameskuyper@verizon.net>: Feb 07 09:30AM -0500 On 02/07/2018 06:52 AM, Stefan Ram wrote: > C++ inherits this, so a portable program has to terminate > the last line with a new-line character (also spelt: > "newline" instead of "new-line"). Perhaps - but the C standard never uses "newline", and the C++ standard only uses it 4 times, presumably as an editing error. Both standards overwhelmingly prefer "new-line". |
| Cholo Lennon <chololennon@hotmail.com>: Feb 07 11:50AM -0300 On 07/02/18 10:52, Öö Tiib wrote: > India's education budget is something like 45 US$ in average per student > annually so nothing mysterious there. > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Education_in_India#/media/File:Elementary_School.jpg Well, I don't totally agree with your comment: I am from Argentina (also I Work for an Indian company). We are not "a first world" country (we have problems with our free education system too, but maybe it's not comparable to India), but I stopped using Turbo C/C++ in 1994. There are no excuses, nowadays you can pick an OS and an up to date C++ compiler/IDE for free. Regards -- Cholo Lennon Bs.As. ARG |
| Jorgen Grahn <grahn+nntp@snipabacken.se>: Feb 07 03:24PM On Wed, 2018-02-07, Cholo Lennon wrote: > minds "iostream.h" :-O > But I have to say that it's not weird at all, people in India still use > the ancient Turbo C/C++. Why? it's a mystery to me. But we don't know that Turbo C++ is the problem here, do we? (I didn't watch the video.) /Jorgen -- // Jorgen Grahn <grahn@ Oo o. . . \X/ snipabacken.se> O o . |
| Thiago Adams <thiago.adams@gmail.com>: Feb 07 07:45AM -0800 On Wednesday, February 7, 2018 at 1:24:54 PM UTC-2, Jorgen Grahn wrote: > > the ancient Turbo C/C++. Why? it's a mystery to me. > But we don't know that Turbo C++ is the problem here, do we? > (I didn't watch the video.) Turbo C online: https://www.naclbox.com/gallery/turboc Turbo C is really good. I wish we had an updated version but keeping the same simplicity and speed. |
| Cholo Lennon <chololennon@hotmail.com>: Feb 07 02:12PM -0300 On 07/02/18 12:24, Jorgen Grahn wrote: >> the ancient Turbo C/C++. Why? it's a mystery to me. > But we don't know that Turbo C++ is the problem here, do we? > (I didn't watch the video.) Well... IHMO yes, Turbo C/C++ IS the problem with a great number of Indian programmers/students, they still use it a lot (just check other forums like reddit or facebook). My "crystal ball" says the usage of iostream.h in the metioned course can be traced to Turbo C/C++ ;-) -- Cholo Lennon Bs.As. ARG |
| Thiago Adams <thiago.adams@gmail.com>: Feb 07 07:39AM -0800 On Saturday, February 3, 2018 at 9:33:53 PM UTC-2, Christian Gollwitzer wrote: > IOW, if you use malloc() you are a masochist, because you have to guard > every single little allocation with if() { printf("OOM"); exit(-1);} or > similar. ..or you can create and reuse a function to do that. |
| "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com>: Feb 07 10:48AM -0500 On 2/7/2018 10:39 AM, Thiago Adams wrote: >> every single little allocation with if() { printf("OOM"); exit(-1);} or >> similar. > ..or you can create and reuse a function to do that. My CAlive language defines registered callback functions which allow interception of failed malloc() calls without requiring the return value be validated at every use. This allows cached resources, temporary resources, or other resources allocated to be able to be freed with a retry attempt possible. If it ultimately fails, then it goes into a special run mode which allows for polite error recovery. This ability exists in CAlive because the ability to unwind exists natively in the new "LiveCode ABI" design, and through the concept I've added called an inquiry, which is a type of program state which suspends to the debugger when possible, allowing the code to be fixed with edit-and-continue (LiveCode) and re-applied to the running ABI, or to a wrapper function at runtime which can politely capture information and exit the program. I also allow registered callbacks for malloc() when memory is reaching thresholds, to allow a process to be stopped before the actual malloc() call fails. CAlive is a re-thinking of how C/C++ code should be. It's still in development, but it has goals ultimately to replace nearly all of C programs, and to greatly simplify a great many C++ applications. -- Thank you! | Indianapolis, Indiana | God is love -- 1 John 4:7-9 Rick C. Hodgin | http://www.libsf.org/ | http://tinyurl.com/yaogvqhj ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Software: LSA, LSC, Debi, RDC/CAlive, ES/1, ES/2, VJr, VFrP, Logician Hardware: Arxoda Desktop CPU, Arxita Embedded CPU, Arlina Compute FPGA |
| ram@zedat.fu-berlin.de (Stefan Ram): Feb 07 11:52AM Louis Krupp <lkrupp@nospam.pssw.com.invalid> writes:cleaner results >with a newline after the output: »Whether the last line requires a terminating new-line character is implementation-defined.« ISO C about text streams C++ inherits this, so a portable program has to terminate the last line with a new-line character (also spelt: "newline" instead of "new-line"). |
| scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal): Feb 06 02:53PM >the same shit over and over, you should stop if you are a decent human >being. But you are not. You are nothing but a complete asshole. And >as long as you keep spamming this newsgroup, I will keep calling you that. In fact, proselytizing and conversion attempts are no better than mental rape. |
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