Monday, June 8, 2020

Digest for comp.lang.c++@googlegroups.com - 10 updates in 3 topics

Mr Flibble <flibbleREMOVETHISBIT@i42.co.uk>: Jun 09 12:06AM +0100

> On Monday, June 8, 2020 at 8:09:19 AM UTC-4, Mr Flibble wrote:
>> Assertions made without evidence can be dismissed without evidence.
[snip]
 
> As to God and God's design:
 
> the fossils we find of dinosaurs with blood vessels, blood cells, and
 
FOREIGN CONTAMINATION.
 
NOW FUCK OFF.
 
/Flibble
 
--
"Snakes didn't evolve, instead talking snakes with legs changed into snakes." - Rick C. Hodgin
 
"You won't burn in hell. But be nice anyway." – Ricky Gervais
 
"I see Atheists are fighting and killing each other again, over who doesn't believe in any God the most. Oh, no..wait.. that never happens." – Ricky Gervais
 
"Suppose it's all true, and you walk up to the pearly gates, and are confronted by God," Byrne asked on his show The Meaning of Life. "What will Stephen Fry say to him, her, or it?"
"I'd say, bone cancer in children? What's that about?" Fry replied.
"How dare you? How dare you create a world to which there is such misery that is not our fault. It's not right, it's utterly, utterly evil."
"Why should I respect a capricious, mean-minded, stupid God who creates a world that is so full of injustice and pain. That's what I would say."
Scott Newman <scott69@gmail.com>: Jun 08 11:36PM +0200

>> It's not the C++-standard that says that, it's reliable behaviour
>> of the compilers. You're really a Noob that has no clue.
 
> Even being right wouldn't justify this level of arrogance.
 
But it is less arrogant than with being wrong !!!!
Paavo Helde <eesnimi@osa.pri.ee>: Jun 09 12:40AM +0300

09.06.2020 00:26 Scott Newman kirjutas:
 
> LOL, you're so stupid !
> static wouldn't help you here when you need a vtable-like per-object
> dispatch.
 
What makes you think vtable is per-object?
Ian Collins <ian-news@hotmail.com>: Jun 09 09:46AM +1200

On 09/06/2020 05:41, Scott Newman wrote:
>>> So in most cases there's not a problem with this.
 
>> So my conclusion is that you are a troll.
 
> No, I am a practitioner while you are a theorist.
 
Snipping attribution is a classic troll indicator!
 
--
Ian.
James Kuyper <jameskuyper@alumni.caltech.edu>: Jun 08 05:49PM -0400

On 6/8/20 5:23 PM, Scott Newman wrote:
>> On the contrary - I've been programming computers since roughly 1974,
 
> Then you should have noticed that all C++-implementation behave
> like I describe.
 
On the contrary - I've always tried to write code that avoids relying
upon anything not guaranteed by a relevant document that applies to all
contexts in which my code is intended to run. I started out relying on
K&R C, and later on the latest version of the C standard. Some of my
Windows code has, of necessity, relied upon Microsoft documentation, but
that was only for a short portion of my career. More recently, I've
relieved upon the latest versions of the C++ and POSIX standards. I've
seldom written code that was intended to be used with only one
implementation of C++. As a result, I've never had the opportunity to
notice whether or not they all behave as you describe.
 
But since your expectations apparently include always having the vtable
pointer at the beginning of an object, I already know for certain that
they're incorrect.
James Kuyper <jameskuyper@alumni.caltech.edu>: Jun 08 05:54PM -0400

On 6/8/20 5:35 PM, Scott Newman wrote:
>> the end of the object.[3]"
 
> That's not possible because the object's derived classes are growing
> at the end. So this is nonsense.
 
[3] is a citation for a link that I copied into my message. Have you
followed that link? If so, what is your explanation for that web page?
Is it some kind of elaborate hoax? For a hoax, it seems to be a pretty
elaborate one.
James Kuyper <jameskuyper@alumni.caltech.edu>: Jun 08 05:57PM -0400

On 6/8/20 5:40 PM, Paavo Helde wrote:
>> static wouldn't help you here when you need a vtable-like per-object
>> dispatch.
 
> What makes you think vtable is per-object?
 
I think what he means is that each object can contain a pointer to a
different vtable. It's the pointer, not the vtable, which is per-object.
Mr Flibble <flibbleREMOVETHISBIT@i42.co.uk>: Jun 08 11:08PM +0100

On 08/06/2020 22:18, Scott Newman wrote:
> ... instead of ...
>     while( !stop.load( memory_order_relaxed );
> I think the first one is more readable.
 
EVERYTHING YOU SAY IS WRONG.
 
/FLIBBLE
 
--
"Snakes didn't evolve, instead talking snakes with legs changed into snakes." - Rick C. Hodgin
 
"You won't burn in hell. But be nice anyway." – Ricky Gervais
 
"I see Atheists are fighting and killing each other again, over who doesn't believe in any God the most. Oh, no..wait.. that never happens." – Ricky Gervais
 
"Suppose it's all true, and you walk up to the pearly gates, and are confronted by God," Byrne asked on his show The Meaning of Life. "What will Stephen Fry say to him, her, or it?"
"I'd say, bone cancer in children? What's that about?" Fry replied.
"How dare you? How dare you create a world to which there is such misery that is not our fault. It's not right, it's utterly, utterly evil."
"Why should I respect a capricious, mean-minded, stupid God who creates a world that is so full of injustice and pain. That's what I would say."
Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com>: Jun 08 03:56PM -0700

>> static wouldn't help you here when you need a vtable-like per-object
>> dispatch.
 
> What makes you think vtable is per-object?
 
My own policy (which I may or may not follow 100% consistently) is that
if a post includes personal abuse, such as the above "LOL, you're so
stupid !", I will not respond to anything in that post.
 
I humbly suggest that this newsgroup would be improved by everyone
following a similar policy.
 
--
Keith Thompson (The_Other_Keith) Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com
Working, but not speaking, for Philips Healthcare
void Void(void) { Void(); } /* The recursive call of the void */
"Öö Tiib" <ootiib@hot.ee>: Jun 08 03:21PM -0700

On Monday, 8 June 2020 21:56:52 UTC+3, Mr Flibble wrote:
> Scott Newman <scott69@gmail.com>. Who the hell is this guy? Is he for real?
 
Seems like younger sister of Bonita.
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