Wednesday, July 14, 2021

Digest for comp.lang.c++@googlegroups.com - 10 updates in 2 topics

Nikki Locke <nikki@trumphurst.com>: Jul 14 10:23PM

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MrSpud_0wmge0me@1luxp5mj4a5obrr0ws.net: Jul 14 07:17AM

On Tue, 13 Jul 2021 16:45:00 +0000
>charge so make use of it. If they decide to close their free service
>then they will give you at least 30 days notice so you'll need to find
>other means of saving your messages.
 
Given how many apparent geniuses subscribe to comp.lang.c++ I'm amazed none
of them have written their own newsreader. NNTP is quite a simple protocol
after all. I did and I'm using it now. Ok, its command line, not GUI but it
does the job and I can make it do whatever I want.
 
>because Google is making a loss on them. There are no ads on that news
>portal so why should they continue running it. Google is a business so
>bottom line comes before anything else.
 
Lets hope they sell/give it away first instead of just binning the entire
Dejanews archive.
 
However if you want a free news server use aioe.org. Obviously being an
apparent hobby server it might vanish too suddenly but I've been using it
for at least 10 years now and its still going strong.
scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal): Jul 14 03:07PM

>of them have written their own newsreader. NNTP is quite a simple protocol
>after all. I did and I'm using it now. Ok, its command line, not GUI but it
>does the job and I can make it do whatever I want.
 
What makes you think we haven't?
MrSpud_6q@rm5.biz: Jul 14 04:03PM

On Wed, 14 Jul 2021 15:07:16 GMT
>>after all. I did and I'm using it now. Ok, its command line, not GUI but it
>>does the job and I can make it do whatever I want.
 
>What makes you think we haven't?
 
Maybe some people have, but I get the impression most haven't.
gazelle@shell.xmission.com (Kenny McCormack): Jul 14 07:08PM

>>>does the job and I can make it do whatever I want.
 
>>What makes you think we haven't?
 
>Maybe some people have, but I get the impression most haven't.
 
There's no need to. Really, talk about wheel re-invention. Hey, here's an
idea, why not write a new OS? Who needs Linux? Who need z/OS? (etc)
 
trn (and similar, such as "tin") does everything you need, so why not use
it? You'd spend a lot of time, just to get up to the level of
functionality of trn. Why go through the hassle?
 
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Manfred <noname@add.invalid>: Jul 14 09:11PM +0200

On 7/14/2021 9:08 PM, Kenny McCormack wrote:
 
> trn (and similar, such as "tin") does everything you need, so why not use
> it? You'd spend a lot of time, just to get up to the level of
> functionality of trn. Why go through the hassle?
 
Don't forget how cool is the wheel :)
Lew Pitcher <lew.pitcher@digitalfreehold.ca>: Jul 14 08:02PM

On Wed, 14 Jul 2021 19:08:22 +0000, Kenny McCormack wrote:
 
 
> trn (and similar, such as "tin") does everything you need, so why not use
> it? You'd spend a lot of time, just to get up to the level of
> functionality of trn. Why go through the hassle?
 
I can think of many possible reasons to (re)create an existing tool:
- the existing tools do not provide the functionality you require, or
- the existing tools do not provide the usability you require, or
- you wish to incorporate the tool's functionality into another tool, or
- the tool is unavailable on your platform, or
- you wish to learn how to write the tool, or
- you wish to attempt to improve the existing tools
 
FWIW, I'm attempting to write an X11 Display Manager using low-level Xlib calls,
not because there are no X11 Display Managers available, but because I wish to
learn about X11, and I would like a Display Manager that works the way /I/ want
it to work.
 
What's /your/ excuse, Kenny?
--
Lew Pitcher
"In Skills, We Trust"
Kaz Kylheku <563-365-8930@kylheku.com>: Jul 14 08:11PM

> There's no need to. Really, talk about wheel re-invention. Hey, here's an
> idea, why not write a new OS? Who needs Linux? Who need z/OS? (etc)
 
Someone is reinventing the literal wheel right now in the world of high
end bicycles, though.
Eli the Bearded <*@eli.users.panix.com>: Jul 14 08:32PM


> trn (and similar, such as "tin") does everything you need, so why not use
> it? You'd spend a lot of time, just to get up to the level of
> functionality of trn. Why go through the hassle?
 
I get the impression from news.software.readers that when people post
about creating new newsreaders these days the are looking for features
you don't get in tin/trn. Things like working well with multiple news
servers (track reading by message ID instead of by sequential id in news
spool) or working better with local personal cached copies instead of
copies on a remote shared server.
 
I can see a bit of appeal there, but not enough to actually go through
the exercise myself.
 
Elijah
------
typically is satisfied with bending trn to his will
gazelle@shell.xmission.com (Kenny McCormack): Jul 14 09:03PM

In article <20210714131012.811@kylheku.com>,
>> idea, why not write a new OS? Who needs Linux? Who need z/OS? (etc)
 
>Someone is reinventing the literal wheel right now in the world of high
>end bicycles, though.
 
I'd be interested to know more about that (as a cyclist myself).
 
Also, this whole sub-thread about re-inventing trn, makes me think of a
certain frequent poster who is always going on about how he's gonna
re-invent everything. Haven't heard from him in quite a while, though
(thankfully).
 
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