| olcott <NoOne@NoWhere.com>: Jul 05 08:31AM -0500 On 6/9/2021 5:37 AM, James Harris wrote: > For more information about content policies on Google Groups, see our > Help Centre article on abuse and our Terms of Service. Switch to free (Thunderbird and eternal-september) Free newsgroup host https://www.eternal-september.org/ Free newsgroup client https://www.thunderbird.net/en-US/ -- Copyright 2021 Pete Olcott "Great spirits have always encountered violent opposition from mediocre minds." Einstein |
| James Harris <james.harris.1@gmail.com>: Jul 05 04:26PM +0100 On 05/07/2021 14:31, olcott wrote: > https://www.eternal-september.org/ > Free newsgroup client > https://www.thunderbird.net/en-US/ I use Thunderbird and Eternal September when I'm at home. But an internet service like Google Groups is useful for when travelling. -- James Harris |
| "Alf P. Steinbach" <alf.p.steinbach@gmail.com>: Jul 05 06:39PM +0200 On 5 Jul 2021 15:31, olcott wrote: > https://www.eternal-september.org/ > Free newsgroup client > https://www.thunderbird.net/en-US/ As I recall Google has deleted the GG comp.lang.c archives. Half a year ago? A year? And ditto for comp.lang.java? Not sure. At the time, in a Facebook posting I compared that to the Nazi's book burning. For, it's about the same idea: remove all knowledge that one doesn't like. Except that it's probably an automated system, an Artificial Idiot, that's doing this, so "like" is probably a misnomer. But sort of. Anyway that's breaking the promise Google made when they acquired DejaNews in 2001, and it shows a total lack of commitment to original Google values and goals. No longer is Google collecting, storing and distributing the knowledge of the world. I believe the Norwegian national digital archive still archives most of the old Usenet, but I'm not sure. Also, there is an archive at the Internet Archive, <url: https://archive.org/details/usenet>. But I don't know what it covers or whether it's a still ongoing effort. - Alf |
| olcott <NoOne@NoWhere.com>: Jul 05 11:50AM -0500 On 7/5/2021 11:39 AM, Alf P. Steinbach wrote: > https://archive.org/details/usenet>. But I don't know what it covers or > whether it's a still ongoing effort. > - Alf The archive is distributed many places. Personally I use Giganews and their archive goes back to 2004: $4.99 per month. All of my very old messages still show up in Google groups. https://cacm.acm.org/news/248041-21-million-of-the-oldest-internet-posts-are-now-online-for-anyone-to-read/fulltext -- "Great spirits have always encountered violent opposition from mediocre minds." Einstein |
| Sam <sam@email-scan.com>: Jul 05 12:52PM -0400 James Harris writes: > I use Thunderbird and Eternal September when I'm at home. But an internet > service like Google Groups is useful for when travelling. There are nntp clients for Android. I never used them; they seem to be mostly oriented towards snarfing binaries, but they might prove to be a decent reader. |
| olcott <NoOne@NoWhere.com>: Jul 05 11:56AM -0500 On 7/5/2021 11:39 AM, Alf P. Steinbach wrote: > https://archive.org/details/usenet>. But I don't know what it covers or > whether it's a still ongoing effort. > - Alf This archive seems to have full text from the earliest years of USENET. https://www.usenetarchives.com/ comp.lang.c goes back to 1986 https://www.usenetarchives.com/threads.php?id=comp.lang.c&y=0&r=0&p=1 comp.lang.java goes back to 1995 https://www.usenetarchives.com/threads.php?id=comp.lang.java&y=0&r=0&p=1 -- Copyright 2021 Pete Olcott "Great spirits have always encountered violent opposition from mediocre minds." Einstein |
| Real Troll <real.troll@trolls.com>: Jul 05 05:00PM On 05/07/2021 14:31, olcott wrote: > Switch to free (Thunderbird and eternal-september) > Free newsgroup host > https://www.eternal-september.org/ If you don't want to give your personal details to that chap running that crap then you can use aioe: <news://news.aioe.org/comp.lang.c> <news://news.aioe.org/comp.lang.c++> <http://news.aioe.org/> You don't need to give any valid email either! The Italian guy believes in "Free Speech" and person's anonymity! |
| olcott <NoOne@NoWhere.com>: Jul 05 12:15PM -0500 On 7/5/2021 12:00 PM, Real Troll wrote: > <http://news.aioe.org/> > You don't need to give any valid email either! The Italian guy believes > in "Free Speech" and person's anonymity! I provided an email address that I never use. -- Copyright 2021 Pete Olcott "Great spirits have always encountered violent opposition from mediocre minds." Einstein |
| "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com>: Jul 05 12:55PM -0700 On 7/5/2021 8:26 AM, James Harris wrote: >> https://www.thunderbird.net/en-US/ > I use Thunderbird and Eternal September when I'm at home. But an > internet service like Google Groups is useful for when travelling. GG was nice to be able to provide a link that anybody could go to and read content, even if they never heard about usenet before. Now, all of those links are dead in the water! That sucks. Grrrr. ;^( |
| Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com>: Jul 05 02:13PM -0700 "Alf P. Steinbach" <alf.p.steinbach@gmail.com> writes: [...] > As I recall Google has deleted the GG comp.lang.c archives. Half a > year ago? A year? And ditto for comp.lang.java? Not sure. [...] Please take a moment to check before making claims like that. I just did a search on group.google.com for articles posted to comp.lang.c in 1998, and got 14,528 results: https://groups.google.com/g/comp.lang.c/search?q=after%3A1998-01-01%20before%3A1998-12-31 A bit of browing leads me to suspect that the archive may be incomplete, but it definitely exists. -- Keith Thompson (The_Other_Keith) Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com Working, but not speaking, for Philips void Void(void) { Void(); } /* The recursive call of the void */ |
| "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com>: Jul 05 03:32PM -0700 On 7/5/2021 2:13 PM, Keith Thompson wrote: > https://groups.google.com/g/comp.lang.c/search?q=after%3A1998-01-01%20before%3A1998-12-31 > A bit of browing leads me to suspect that the archive may be > incomplete, but it definitely exists. That link works, and goes to content! Thanks Keith. |
| "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com>: Jul 05 03:34PM -0700 On 7/5/2021 3:32 PM, Chris M. Thomasson wrote: >> A bit of browing leads me to suspect that the archive may be >> incomplete, but it definitely exists. > That link works, and goes to content! Thanks Keith. I need to check one of my links... Can you get it to work? https://groups.google.com/g/comp.lang.c/c/a53VxN8cwkY/m/XKl1-0a8DAAJ This must mean that comp.lang.c is back up online wrt GG! Nice! |
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