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"Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com>: Sep 22 12:23PM -0700

On Monday, September 22, 2014 2:58:02 PM UTC-4, Melzzzzz wrote:
> > product and has as its logo some kind of flying demon LOL -- same
> > reason I won't use python or a handful of others).
 
> What about FreeBSD, Darwin and (OS X which is derived from them);)?
 
I have slated to support FreeBSD in my Visual FreePro project, but I
have not done so yet. Since I made that announcement in early 2012,
I have since seen their demon/daemon logo as well and may also
withdrawal support. I have not yet decided because I have not
researched anything about FreeBSD.
 
The primary reason I was supporting FreeBSD was because it was an
alternative to both Linux and GNU. Linux had Linus Torvalds giving
talks in front of large groups, and giving corporations the finger
and using curse words. GNU has Richard Stallman at the top, a man
with some very perverse thoughts about what is and is not acceptable
behavior for people.
 
Whereas I have not officially decided about FreeBSD, I have looked
at it superficially a handful of times and will most likely drop
support for it. I may not though, it is a particular kind of open
source project that has isolated and specific roots. I will have
to look into it more and then decide.
 
Darwin and OS X ... no. I have not used any Apple products since the
early 90s, and even then it was an old Macintosh which I never used,
but someone gave me and I had it for a few years. Prior to that it was
Apple ][e in middle- and high-school. I've never owned any iPods,
iPads, iPhones, Macs, or anything else. I had an iTunes account for
a few years because I wanted to pay for songs legally rather than
download them for free, but I have not used it since other sources
became available (mostly Amazon.com's digital music sales).
 
Apple uses a fruit with the bite out of it. Originally it was a rainbow
color -- the symbol God put in the sky after the flood promising that He
would never again destroy the Earth with water.
 
The symbols Apple usea and uses relate to how this whole mess we live
in got started (sin).
 
Best regards,
Rick C. Hodgin
Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com>: Sep 22 09:23PM +0200

On Mon, 22 Sep 2014 18:40:45 GMT
> >reason I won't use python or a handful of others).
 
> As for the first reason, LLVM is not an apple product, just a product
> that apple uses (and contributes to).
 
clang is Apple product...
 
 
> As for the second reason, Huh?
 
Guy believes in talking snakes and flying zombie humans...
"Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com>: Sep 22 12:32PM -0700

On Monday, September 22, 2014 3:09:11 PM UTC-4, Richard wrote:
> source and Apple is a contributor, so is google, so are any number of
> people/companies. Apple has chosen to use clang as it's primary
> compiler in Xcode, but prior to that they used gcc.
 
As I understand it, clang was written by Apple. The original author
works at Apple. Other companies now support it as well, but it is
used by Apple.
 
I have avoided it for those reasons. I avoid all things Apple for
the same reason -- they are a huge corporation, nearly $700 billion
in market capitalization at their peak, and there is a real enemy
in this world operating against the people. That enemy's name is
Satan. He does not operate in hidden ways, but in the open, and at
every place where there is an opportunity for power or corruption
he will snake his way into the hearts and minds of those involved,
using their desire for whatever personally satiating thing they'll
be swayed by, against them to carry out his agenda.
 
It's why the world is in the shape it is. People puruse something
false and harmful rather than what's right -- because pursuing what's
right is much more difficult because this real enemy rises up against
all such right and true efforts to make them as difficult as possible.
Look at my Visual FreePro project. Not a single developer has come
on board to help me since July 12, 2012. It's not for a lack of
asking or advertising. It is because I place Jesus Christ out in
front of my work, being the very reason why I am doing what I am doing.
 
I've had people tell me point blank that if I were to monetize my
project, and figure out a way to make money off of it, they would
come on board and help me.
 
Satan uses those very drives and desires, placing opportunities in
front of those who will do what he wants them to do, so that his
plans are carried out through men.
 
It is a difficult walk being a Christian. It comes with a cost.
The main one is constant ridicule by those who are not born again
believers. The other is that the enemy takes everything you try
to do in your life and use it against you. Even your best
intentions are twisted into something which causes harm.
 
Satan is shrewd and uber intelligent. He was so silver tongued
that he convinced a full one-third of the angels to leave their
place in Heaven and follow him. These are what are now called
demons.
 
But all of them have been judged. Every last one. And all of them
will be cast forever into the eternal fires of Hell. And all men
who pursue sin and wrongness will be cast in as well. It is why I
pursue God with my life. He saved me from that end, and I owe Him
everything. It is a very difficult walk, but the final payoff is
out of this world.
 
Best regards,
Rick C. Hodgin
David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no>: Sep 22 09:34PM +0200

On 22/09/14 21:23, Rick C. Hodgin wrote:
 
> support for it. I may not though, it is a particular kind of open
> source project that has isolated and specific roots. I will have
> to look into it more and then decide.
 
You can't have looked very hard at FreeBSD - have you seen their logo?
David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no>: Sep 22 09:36PM +0200

On 22/09/14 20:40, Scott Lurndal wrote:
>> won't use python or a handful of others).
 
> As for the first reason, LLVM is not an apple product, just a product
> that apple uses (and contributes to).
 
LLVM is not an apple product, but clang was - Apple started it, and have
been major contributors ever since. But it's all open source, with lots
of other groups, companies and individuals working on both the LLVM
backend and the clang front-end.
 
"Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com>: Sep 22 12:42PM -0700

On Monday, September 22, 2014 3:35:07 PM UTC-4, David Brown wrote:
> > source project that has isolated and specific roots. I will have
> > to look into it more and then decide.
 
> You can't have looked very hard at FreeBSD - have you seen their logo?
 
When I first announced I would support it I had not looked at their logo.
In fact, I didn't look at their logo for several months. Then one day I
did and was taken aback. I looked up the history of the logo and it is
named "Beastie" a play on words of "BSD". But I also look at the history
of what the project was created to be/do.
 
I'll have to look into the intentions of the original authors, who they
were, what their purpose was in creating it, etc. I look at that under-
lying spirit, and not the outward appearance. At least I try to do this.
I have learned there are some spirits which are capable of deceiving me.
They are typically the very hard addiction spirits (heroine, crystal
meth, other similar hard drugs). I don't know why it is that I get no
discernment from those spirits. I get discernment from others, however.
 
We'll see though. It will require some emails, some communication, etc.
I did the same thing with Richard Stallman and then went on this very
difficult journey of creating LibSF as an alternative to the FSF because
of the spirit operating within him. Very frightening.
 
Best regards,
Rick C. Hodgin
Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com>: Sep 22 09:48PM +0200

On Mon, 22 Sep 2014 12:32:34 -0700 (PDT)
> he will snake his way into the hearts and minds of those involved,
> using their desire for whatever personally satiating thing they'll
> be swayed by, against them to carry out his agenda.
 
Well, what is the difference between Microsoft and Apple?
You support Microsoft, but not Apple. Why?
 
I can recommend you Ubuntu christian edition
and Linux for Christians site ;)
 
http://ubuntuce.com/
http://www.linuxforchristians.org/
"Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com>: Sep 22 01:23PM -0700

On Monday, September 22, 2014 3:49:11 PM UTC-4, Melzzzzz wrote:
> "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com> wrote:
> Well, what is the difference between Microsoft and Apple?
> You support Microsoft, but not Apple. Why?
 
There are two parts to that answer:
 
(1) I grew up on IBM and Microsoft from my earliest PC days.
(2) I do not support Microsoft.
 
Microsoft has been evil from the get-go. They were convicted of several
anti-trust violations by various countries around the world. They are
a patently evil company. In the mid-1990s I started working on my own
operating system I originally called q/Operating System, but I changed
the name in/around 1998 to Exodus Operating System, as I hoped it would
be a mass departure from evil (Microsoft).
 
I continued to use the tools I already had, an early 1990s version of
their C compiler, and Macro Assembler 6.11d, along with CodeLite versions
3.x and 4.x. I used MS-DOS 6.22 I believe up until I was forced to buy
a new machine, which then came with Windows 95, though I would boot into
DOS.
 
In any event... I made steady progress on my OS, but I never got it to
the point where it was ready to be used as an alternative. It was
close, but I was again (back then) hampered by the time I had to have
a full-time job ... plus, writing an OS is exceedingly tedious work.
All I had were the IA-32 developer manuals and a regular PC with a
floppy drive. I would code on C:\EXODUS\SOURCE\ and then use a disk
writer I wrote to write my file system structure to the floppy, hit
reset and try it out. Very slow to make corrections and test.
 
But, regardless. I had begun my career in XBASE with FoxBASE back
in 1987. I stuck with Fox Software until Microsoft bought them and
released FoxPro for Windows 2.x, and then Visual FoxPro 3.0. I did
not use any of those products and stick with Multi-User FoxBASE+ 2.1
up until the late 90s.
 
Through a host of events that I even at the time thought were very
unexpected and spoke very strongly of a God-like presence watching
over me (I would not become a Christian until 2004, but I honestly
at that time wondered why some of the things which were happening
to me were happening to me), I wound up taking a job where I was
coding in Visual FoxPro 3.0, and was given Visual Studio 98. I
began to learn those tools and proceeded from there.
 
At various times while I was working at that job I could feel again
God's presence, as though He was there with me watching over me as
I was coding. I did not recognize Him as God, and at that time I
was a devout, professed atheist who would argue with anybody over
"the false existence of God," but there was still this inner thing
that I could not in any way deny. That same feeling happened in
about 12 isolated incidents over the several years I worked there.
Each time it was distinct, singular, and I had no question in my
soul what it was... it was this same thing that had happened in my
life about the time I got the job.
 
During my time there I became a Christian around July 31, 2004.
And my life has been forever altered since then.
 
I had abandoned work on my OS in 2002 when my wife told me in very
clear terms (paraphrased), "Choose, Rick. It's either the OS, or me,"
because development on the OS was every waking hour for years. She
knew this when we got married, but after we were married in Nov.2001,
it was no longer tolerated. :-) In any event, I chose her and we
were happy for a few years until I accepted Christ, and then many
things in my life began to be turned upside down. My wife tried at
first to support me, but she told me later she felt like I died that
day I told her I was a Christian, and she was right ... literally.
 
In any event, through many bad things which took me through until about
2011 we struggled. We never got a divorce, but it was painful for both
of us, and our son (now 10 years old). It's been awful. Only in the
past couple of years has she been able to tolerate being in the same
room with me for any length of time. And only in the past several
months has she actually begun to ask questions about Jesus, about faith,
and she's commented on seeing the value in believing. The fiery spirit
that used to accompany her speech has been replaced with a soft, seeking
spirit, and it has been pleasant.
 
Still... other areas of my life have been severely hurt because of it.
My house needs repairs. My health has not been good. Every time I've
tried to go and do house repairs I wind up being sick for a week or so.
It's been very hard.
 
So ... as my wife began to tolerate being in the same room with me again,
and I wasn't under that kind of constant spiritual pressure, I resolved
in my mind in July, 2012 that I would again focus my life on some endeavor
to help others. I contacted Richard Stallman and decided I would work to
complete the HURD kernel for GNU. He replied and said that he didn't
really think that was needed because Linux is so well developed, tested.
He suggested I work on their Adobe Flash replacement, called Gnash. In
considering this for a few days I did some research on GNU, and on Richard,
and came across some quotes from the mid-2000s whereby he said that
necrophilia and pedophilia should be legal, citing that it doesn't really
hurt the deceased, or the children, but that it's more of a societal
stigma. I contacted him via email to ask him about the quotes. He said
they were accurate. I asked him if he still felt that way. He said yes.
I witnessed to him about Jesus Christ and that there is a proper way we
are to live in this world. He told me that we didn't need religion, and
so on, and I resolved then I would depart.
 
I have spent every waking hour I'm able to do so since that time working
on constructing the framework for my Visual FreePro Virtual Machine (VVM),
and a compiler capable of writing code for the underlying x86 or ARM CPU,
as well as for the VVM's own opcodes. I have worked to author the
libraries that are required to make it all happen. I have evangelized
both about Jesus Christ and about my project since then, and I have found
no one to come on board and help. I contacted two Christian universities
in Indiana asking them for support. They also turned me down. It's been
an unending series of walls.
 
I finally gave up on trying to get the full version of Visual FreePro
completed in Jun.2014, and have been working on Visual FreePro, Jr. ever
since. I have been doing this because I told people back in July, 2012
that I would have Visual FreePro for them. About 20 have stuck by me
and I have not produced a product during that time due to the complexity
of writing it all, and writing it on top of, at that time, having a job
which required about 60 hours, which today requires about 50 hours, per
week.
 
Visual FreePro is getting close to having a working IDE, and its
integrated compiler is framed. It is a much simpler compiler that will
only support code generated for the Visual FreePro XBASE langauge,
called VXB. However, it is the closest I've come.
 
Once completed, I'm hoping it will spurn other developers to come on
board and help me with my full Visual FreePro project, which includes
the RDC compiler framework, and RDC programming language, in addition
to the full XBASE language version called VXB++.
 
It's a lot of work, and it's been now 802 days today that I've been
working on these projects. I've met with no end of ridicule, even
hate speak. People have made fun of every tiny mistake I've made.
I've had people claim that it will never be completed. That I'm
wasting my time. And much more. Yet nobody has come on board to
help out so that such is not my fated end, for I know that in working
together, especially when purposed and focused upon Jesus Christ,
man can accomplish anything. That's even a Bible verse. :-)
 
In any event, I have supported Microsoft products because I have had
to have some tools to develop in until I get my tools completed. I
have a background with Microsoft products, but I will not use anything
newer than the Visual Studio 2008 version I have, a version given to
me by Microsoft, by the way, back in 2009 when I was writing articles
for Geek.com. They gave me a full licensed version to evaluate, and
that is the version I am using today. The version of Visual Studio
2003 I have I purchased back in 2005 I think. And the version of
Visual Studio 98 I use I just purchased less than a month ago.
 
Once I get my RDC compiler completed, I will never again use a
Microsoft product, except in that I will need to test my own product's
operating on Windows because I plan to support Windows.
 
After I get Visual FreePro completed, then I turn back to my own OS,
Exodus. After Exodus is completed I will port it to ARM for a version
called Armodus. After Armodus is completed I will return to Exodus and
complete an Exodus-64 version. And finally I'll return to Armodus and
complete an Armodus-64 version.
 
Once I get these base RDC tools developed, and I have a working C language,
full debugger, full IDE, and one that will work on several platforms (I
had originally planned for Windows, Linux, FreeBSD, and Android), then all
I do from that point forward will be focused upon my own products, which
are all focused upon my faith in Jesus Christ as their center/core.
 
Hope that makes sense. :-)
 
> I can recommend you Ubuntu christian edition
> and Linux for Christians site ;)
 
I tried that. I use Linux Mint currently. I have found Ubuntu to
be to "hip" or "chic" for my tastes. I use the MATE GUI and am so
very happy in so doing.
 
I used Trisquel for a long time (all binary blobs removed), but
the authors don't maintain it very well. It's lagged behind.
 
Best regards,
Rick C. Hodgin
Paavo Helde <myfirstname@osa.pri.ee>: Sep 22 03:25PM -0500


> Well, what is the difference between Microsoft and Apple?
> You support Microsoft, but not Apple. Why?
 
Isn't this clear? Both Mac OS X and Linux have hords of daemons and
zombies, all lurking in the background.
 
It's only Windows which has heavenly blue screens!
 
Cheers
Paavo
"Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com>: Sep 22 01:37PM -0700

On Monday, September 22, 2014 4:25:48 PM UTC-4, Paavo Helde wrote:
> It's only Windows which has heavenly blue screens!
 
LOL :-)
 
Best regards,
Rick C. Hodgin
Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com>: Sep 22 11:43PM +0200

On Mon, 22 Sep 2014 13:23:14 -0700 (PDT)
 
> There are two parts to that answer:
 
> (1) I grew up on IBM and Microsoft from my earliest PC days.
> (2) I do not support Microsoft.
 
....
> was a devout, professed atheist who would argue with anybody over
> "the false existence of God," but there was still this inner thing
> that I could not in any way deny.
 
I have this inner thing too, but I became atheist in 2010.
I was Christian until then. I believe in supernatural but
not in Bible.
 
That same feeling happened in
> life about the time I got the job.
 
> During my time there I became a Christian around July 31, 2004.
> And my life has been forever altered since then.
 
I believe you.
 
> things in my life began to be turned upside down. My wife tried at
> first to support me, but she told me later she felt like I died that
> day I told her I was a Christian, and she was right ... literally.
 
Hm. So after all, your new faith was not that good for you?
> Jesus, about faith, and she's commented on seeing the value in
> believing. The fiery spirit that used to accompany her speech has
> been replaced with a soft, seeking spirit, and it has been pleasant.
 
Glad to hear that.
 
> again, and I wasn't under that kind of constant spiritual pressure, I
> resolved in my mind in July, 2012 that I would again focus my life on
> some endeavor to help others.
 
Great ;)
 
I contacted Richard Stallman and
> witnessed to him about Jesus Christ and that there is a proper way we
> are to live in this world. He told me that we didn't need religion,
> and so on, and I resolved then I would depart.
 
Aside Stallman, his views are good regarding software but those
things about necro and pedo are questionable at best.
 
> help. I contacted two Christian universities in Indiana asking them
> for support. They also turned me down. It's been an unending series
> of walls.
 
Main reason I am now atheist is disappointment in clerics and religious
people generally. That is, I am now agnostic atheist.
..
> integrated compiler is framed. It is a much simpler compiler that
> will only support code generated for the Visual FreePro XBASE
> langauge, called VXB. However, it is the closest I've come.
 
Hm, I extremely rarely use IDE. I am using plain text editor
and compile /interpret with whatever command line build system.
I fall in love with golang as it compiles blazingly fast
and does not need Makefile. Language is awfully inefficient OTOH,
(tools are not mature , yet),but really simple.
 
> board and help me with my full Visual FreePro project, which includes
> the RDC compiler framework, and RDC programming language, in addition
> to the full XBASE language version called VXB++.
 
Not many developers are interested in "visual" things.
 
> help out so that such is not my fated end, for I know that in working
> together, especially when purposed and focused upon Jesus Christ,
> man can accomplish anything. That's even a Bible verse. :-)
 
Well, you do what you know best and what you like, after all it's
your free time ;)
 
> that is the version I am using today. The version of Visual Studio
> 2003 I have I purchased back in 2005 I think. And the version of
> Visual Studio 98 I use I just purchased less than a month ago.
 
Well, I used visual studio express back in 2005-6 to develop one
project for Windows. And that one project for Windows was
all that I had to do with Windows in last 15 years.
 
> my own products, which are all focused upon my faith in Jesus Christ
> as their center/core.
 
> Hope that makes sense. :-)
 
All, except IDE? Why do you waste time on IDE?
Heh, I am programming in assembler/C++/go ,...
and I don't use IDE/debugger at all ;)
 
 
> I tried that. I use Linux Mint currently. I have found Ubuntu to
> be to "hip" or "chic" for my tastes. I use the MATE GUI and am so
> very happy in so doing.
 
Well, MATE is gnome 2 reborn and I simply can't use it anymore,
since gnome3. I now use Manjaro Linux after being faithful
to Ubuntu for 7 years. I simply had to try rolling release
distro and keep my Ubuntu install at LTS, while experimenting
with bleeding edge where it belongs.
 
 
 
> Best regards,
> Rick C. Hodgin
 
Best regards!
"Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com>: Sep 22 03:00PM -0700

On Monday, September 22, 2014 5:44:04 PM UTC-4, Melzzzzz wrote:
> Main reason I am now atheist is disappointment in clerics and religious
> people generally. That is, I am now agnostic atheist.
 
Being a Christian is not in any part about what other professed
religious people do. It is about one thing only: Your personal
relationship with Jesus Christ.
 
The anti-Christ spirit is everywhere and evil people will persist until
the day of His return. But it is from within that He calls, and it is
from within, and unto Him only, that a Christian walks, the contrary
people of the world are not a factor.
 
> I fall in love with golang as it compiles blazingly fast
> and does not need Makefile. Language is awfully inefficient OTOH,
> (tools are not mature , yet),but really simple.
 
Visual FreePro most likely won't be for you then. :-) The target
audience I have deals mostly with GUI desktop apps. The goal will
also be to move those into GUI mobile apps with little effort.
 
> > the RDC compiler framework, and RDC programming language, in addition
> > to the full XBASE language version called VXB++.
 
> Not many developers are interested in "visual" things.
 
That has not been my experience. And in the past 5 years where video
cards have gotten into such high-end 3D acceleration on even a very
tight power budget on mobile devices, I don't see that remaining for
long (at least for the types of application targets I'm in pursuit of:
User apps, both desktop, and mobile).
 
> > Hope that makes sense. :-)
 
> All, except IDE? Why do you waste time on IDE?
 
I view it as a key component of my overall design -- instant feedback
on your code as you're authoring it, continuous compilation, edit-and-
continue, and a feature called SourceLight, which is kind of like
Intellisense, but does quite a bit more.
 
> to Ubuntu for 7 years. I simply had to try rolling release
> distro and keep my Ubuntu install at LTS, while experimenting
> with bleeding edge where it belongs.
 
I've tried GNOME3. It's why I stuck with GNOME2 for a time, and
then MATE once GNOME2 was released as some weird compatibility
mode that didn't look like it used to. Mate is very straight-
forward, though I do have periodic problems with icons losing
their position if I move them anywhere from their default left-
side location when you right-click and choose "Add to panel."
That is my biggest annoyance with Linux Mint 17. Another is
that the menu takes a long time to appear when you click on
the "start" button.
 
In terms of functionality and ease of use, I've been able to upgrade
from Linux Mint 14 through the current version. I was even able to
resize my partition each time to maintain my prior installs as well.
It was very easy. And since I do all of my personal Windows
development in VMs, nothing changed on the update and each one was
completed in about 45 minutes after the various package re-installs
in Synaptic.
 
My only remaining issue is how to get the hard drives to auto-mount
in the same way they do when I click on them in Caja. If I use the
settings I find online, I get boot errors about failed auto-mounts.
 
Best regards,
Rick C. Hodgin
Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com>: Sep 23 12:22AM +0200

On Mon, 22 Sep 2014 15:00:38 -0700 (PDT)
 
> Being a Christian is not in any part about what other professed
> religious people do. It is about one thing only: Your personal
> relationship with Jesus Christ.
 
Problem is that everything you know about Jesus Christ is through
scriptures. And scriptures are written by such people.
 
> until the day of His return. But it is from within that He calls,
> and it is from within, and unto Him only, that a Christian walks, the
> contrary people of the world are not a factor.
 
There are many Christian Churches/sects and they are not even
similar to each other.
 
> That is my biggest annoyance with Linux Mint 17. Another is
> that the menu takes a long time to appear when you click on
> the "start" button.
 
Heh, I am using gnome-shell and kde currently, more so gnome-shell.
kde is cool, too, but I like simplicity of gnome-shell more.
 
> In terms of functionality and ease of use, I've been able to upgrade
> from Linux Mint 14 through the current version. I was even able to
> resize my partition each time to maintain my prior installs as well.
 
Hm, Mint does not upgrade, how did you do that?
On Manjaro (derived from Arch Linux) all you have to do
is `pacman -Syy && pacman -Syu` to update to current version.
Manjaro has gui frontend(s) to package manager, too.
 
 
> My only remaining issue is how to get the hard drives to auto-mount
> in the same way they do when I click on them in Caja. If I use the
> settings I find online, I get boot errors about failed auto-mounts.
 
Hm, I don't know how mount works within file manager,
without requiring root password ;)
I have added entries in /etc/fstab to automount all drives/partitions.
 
 
> Best regards,
> Rick C. Hodgin
 
Best regards!
Mr Flibble <flibbleREMOVETHISBIT@i42.co.uk>: Sep 22 08:53PM +0100

This newsgroup is very poor; it has no sausages at all!
 
/Flibble
Ian Collins <ian-news@hotmail.com>: Sep 23 07:55AM +1200

Mr Flibble wrote:
> This newsgroup is very poor; it has no sausages at all!
 
It does now...
 
--
Ian Collins
Christopher Pisz <nospam@notanaddress.com>: Sep 22 02:57PM -0500

On 9/22/2014 2:53 PM, Mr Flibble wrote:
> This newsgroup is very poor; it has no sausages at all!
 
On the contrary, I think it has nothing but sausages, but in my
profession, that comes with the territory.
drew@furrfu.invalid (Drew Lawson): Sep 22 08:21PM

In article <lvpuv7$6n3$1@dont-email.me>
>> This newsgroup is very poor; it has no sausages at all!
 
>On the contrary, I think it has nothing but sausages, but in my
>profession, that comes with the territory.
 
You'e a professional sausage stuffer?
 
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-- Ambrose Bierce
CHIN Dihedral <dihedral88888@gmail.com>: Sep 22 12:48PM -0700

On Tuesday, September 23, 2014 12:15:54 AM UTC+8, Paavo Helde wrote:
 
> You can guess three times ;-) And yes, that's the one what OP is using
 
> (although I hope he has moved forward from MSVC6 by now).
 
> Cheers, Paavo
 
Are you joking about the disabled
fake hash table in C++?
 
Anyway, a file directory
system is not so hard to be developed in the unix-linux part with
a powerful hash table lib and iterators to travel any directory
without the old recursion methods.
Robert Hutchings <rm.hutchings@gmail.com>: Sep 22 08:37AM -0500

On 9/22/2014 8:26 AM, David Brown wrote:
> virus-scanned, because viruses could easily spoof such a message. So
> the virus scanner on outgoing mails and posts simply adds a slightly
> silly advert to the bottom of all your posts.
 
OK, let's see if this works...
David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no>: Sep 22 05:38PM +0200

On 22/09/14 15:37, Robert Hutchings wrote:
<snip>
> OK, let's see if this works...
 
Good enough for me! Now we can get back to C++. Thanks for making the
effort to fit with the rest of the group - and I hope you find your new
newsreader a better way to work with Usenet.
 
David
scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal): Sep 22 02:47PM

>fpga-design-hls.pdf
 
>I have not used it (or even read through the pdf) so don't know how much
>merit it has.
 
IIRC, the available C++ language features are severely constrained.
legalize+jeeves@mail.xmission.com (Richard): Sep 22 01:48AM

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