Friday, September 16, 2016

Digest for comp.lang.c++@googlegroups.com - 16 updates in 3 topics

woodbrian77@gmail.com: Sep 15 05:11PM -0700

On Thursday, September 15, 2016 at 11:33:32 AM UTC-5, David Brown wrote:
> make an effort to make it as clear and sensible as you can. When almost
> everyone else tells you a :: prefix to std:: is ugly, unnecessary and
> distracting, then you should listen to them.
 
Anyone is welcome to read the part of the code that's open source,
but the primary audience is the royal priesthood. The :: prefix
can be considered as part of the signature of the royal priesthood.
 
"But you are a chosen generation, a royal priesthood, an holy nation,
a peculiar people; that you should show forth the praises of Him who
hath called you out of darkness into His marvelous light."
1st Peter 2:9
 
 
Brian
Ebenezer Enterprises
http://webEbenezer.net
woodbrian77@gmail.com: Sep 15 05:28PM -0700

> > distracting, then you should listen to them.
 
> Anyone is welcome to read the part of the code that's open source,
> but the primary audience is the royal priesthood.
 
"We few, we happy few, we band of brothers." Shakespeare
"Öö Tiib" <ootiib@hot.ee>: Sep 15 11:44PM -0700

> a peculiar people; that you should show forth the praises of Him who
> hath called you out of darkness into His marvelous light."
> 1st Peter 2:9
 
So you declare yourself and Stefan Ram to be "royal priesthood" thanks
to redundant colons? :D
woodbrian77@gmail.com: Sep 16 08:00AM -0700

On Friday, September 16, 2016 at 1:45:02 AM UTC-5, Öö Tiib wrote:
> > 1st Peter 2:9
 
> So you declare yourself and Stefan Ram to be "royal priesthood" thanks
> to redundant colons? :D
 
I claim to be a part of it. I'm not sure about Stefan. I hope
he is, but I can't be sure just by this.
 
 
Brian
Ebenezer Enterprises
http://webEbenezer.net
"Öö Tiib" <ootiib@hot.ee>: Sep 16 11:09AM -0700

> > to redundant colons? :D
 
> I claim to be a part of it. I'm not sure about Stefan. I hope
> he is, but I can't be sure just by this.
 
Hopefully the colons are good reason to humble oneself.
Vir Campestris <vir.campestris@invalid.invalid>: Sep 16 09:17PM +0100

On 16/09/2016 07:44, Öö Tiib wrote:
> So you declare yourself and Stefan Ram to be "royal priesthood" thanks
> to redundant colons? :D
 
At least they don't wear them on their heads :P
 
(yes, I know umlauts aren't really redundant)
 
Andy
Victor Bazarov <v.bazarov@comcast.invalid>: Sep 16 04:25PM -0400

On 9/16/2016 4:17 PM, Vir Campestris wrote:
>> So you declare yourself and Stefan Ram to be "royal priesthood" thanks
>> to redundant colons? :D
 
> At least they don't wear them on their heads :P
 
No, they just wear their heads inside their colons...
"Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com>: Sep 16 05:57AM -0700

On Thursday, September 15, 2016 at 4:42:08 PM UTC-4, Wouter van Ooijen wrote:
> > forgiveness of your sin
 
> *My* sin? If I have sinned, it is for none but me to sand for that. I
> won't let anyone else, imaginary or not, take that from me.
 
You will not be able to stand for it. It will be the end of you. If you
care so little about your existence as to go down that path, God will
honor your desire, as He wants no people who seek such things in His
Kingdom, which is why He created Hell (to isolate those in pursuit of sin
from everything that is alive).
 
http://biblehub.com/kjv/luke/8-17.htm
17 For nothing is secret, that shall not be made manifest; neither
any thing hid, that shall not be known and come abroad.
 
http://biblehub.com/kjv/luke/12-2.htm
2 For there is nothing covered, that shall not be revealed; neither
hid, that shall not be known.
 
http://biblehub.com/kjv/mark/4-22.htm
22 For there is nothing hid, which shall not be manifested; neither
was any thing kept secret, but that it should come abroad.
 
http://biblehub.com/kjv/matthew/10-26.htm
26 Fear them not therefore: for there is nothing covered, that shall
not be revealed; and hid, that shall not be known.
 
Your sin is known to God. And it will be known to all. You will not be
able to hide from it, and it will utterly destroy you.
 
This is why God came to the Earth to save men.
 
If you had a son and he had done some wrong, wouldn't you try to figure
out a way to save him? At the very least hire the best lawyers, or do
something to help him out?
 
God did this for us, and to the extent where He went before the judge
and said, "Put his guilt on me, and I'll pay the price for it." It was
His gift to us from before the foundation of the world:
 
http://biblehub.com/kjv/revelation/13-8.htm
8 And all that dwell upon the earth shall worship him, whose names
are not written in the book of life of the Lamb slain from the
foundation of the world.
 
Those who reject God will embrace Satan, and take his mark in the end
days. They will be the damned. The condemned. The walking dead.
 
-----
To reject the offer of Jesus Christ to atone for your sin is the ultimate
and final act of rebellion against God, and it is your final proclamation
to all of the created universe: "I DO NOT WANT YOU, GOD! I WANT TO END
MY OWN EXISTENCE IN HELL RATHER THAN BE FORGIVEN BY YOU AND LIVE ON IN
ETERNITY IN THE PARADISE OF GOD."
 
What person makes that choice? It is the one who loves sin ahead of truth.
It is the one whose name is not written down in the Lamb's Book of Life.
 
Best regards,
Rick C. Hodign
Wouter van Ooijen <wouter@voti.nl>: Sep 16 04:44PM +0200

> God did this for us, and to the extent where He went before the judge
 
Now it gets a bit complicated. Who was that judge?
 
Wouter
"Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com>: Sep 16 07:54AM -0700

On Friday, September 16, 2016 at 10:44:40 AM UTC-4, Wouter van Ooijen wrote:
> > God did this for us, and to the extent where He went before the judge
 
> Now it gets a bit complicated. Who was that judge?
 
God is God the Father, God the Son, God the Holy Spirit. It's the same
as you: soul, body, spirit.
 
God is one, and He went before Himself, His own rules, that which He
originated to keep order in His Creation, and He made a way out for you
in your sin.
 
He is not interested in condemning anyone ... but He will keep order in
His House. All who come to Him and ask forgiveness are forgiven. All.
No exceptions. The only people who will not be forgiven are those who
flatly reject His offer.
 
It would be like some right philanthropist saying, "Everyone who comes
to me and receives my gift will receive a million dollars," and the
someone choosing not go to. The offer was yours for the taking, but you
must receive it to have it.
 
Jesus has paid the price for your sin, but you must receive His gift
before it becomes yours, otherwise it goes unused, and your sin remains
on you, and the punishment of sin is poured out on you instead of Him,
and you're never coming back from that, whereas He did (because He's God
Almighty).
 
Best regards,
Rick C. Hodgin
Wouter van Ooijen <wouter@voti.nl>: Sep 16 07:01PM +0200

Op 16-Sep-16 om 4:54 PM schreef Rick C. Hodgin:
 
>> Now it gets a bit complicated. Who was that judge?
 
> God is God the Father, God the Son, God the Holy Spirit. It's the same
> as you: soul, body, spirit.
 
Nope, I am just one.
 
> God is one, and He went before Himself, His own rules, that which He
> originated to keep order in His Creation, and He made a way out for you
> in your sin.
 
I don't see anything brave or nice in appearing before yourself to judge
yourself acoording to your own rules. (And then punshing yourself, only
to save yourself at the last moment. Or somewhat later.)
 
For an excellent explanation of these matters:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mII6-IyaT3o
 
Wouter
"Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com>: Sep 16 10:13AM -0700

On Friday, September 16, 2016 at 1:01:40 PM UTC-4, Wouter van Ooijen wrote:
 
> I don't see anything brave or nice in appearing before yourself to judge
> yourself acoording to your own rules. (And then punshing yourself, only
> to save yourself at the last moment. Or somewhat later.)
 
You will. Everyone will. You will stand stripped of your sinful flesh
and your self-seeking pursuits, naked before God, exposed with all your
lies, your hypocrisy. And you will tremble in fear before His awesome
presence. You will give an account of your life and you will self-condemn.
You will be taken hold of, carried to the precipice, and cast into the
eternal lake of fire. And the last thing written in the book of you
will be: "And Wouter was cast into the lake of fire. The end."
 
http://biblehub.com/kjv/romans/14-11.htm
11 For it is written, As I live, saith the Lord, every knee shall
bow to me, and every tongue shall confess to God.
 
http://biblehub.com/kjv/philippians/2-10.htm
10 That at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, of things
in heaven, and things in earth, and things under the earth;
 
It is a fearful thing to fall into the hands of God with sin.
 
http://biblehub.com/kjv/hebrews/10-31.htm
31 It is a fearful thing to fall into the hands of the living God.
 
We are even told to work out our salvation with trembling and fear:
 
http://biblehub.com/kjv/philippians/2-12.htm
12 Wherefore, my beloved, as ye have always obeyed, not as in my
presence only, but now much more in my absence, work out your
own salvation with fear and trembling.
 
All of this information is there for you to receive and learn from.
Only a fool would turn away from it upon the testimony of many who
point to its accuracy, it's ability to change a person completely from
the inside out, as is demonstrable by the way they conduct their own
lives in the presence of others.
 
Best regards,
Rick C. Hodgin
Wouter van Ooijen <wouter@voti.nl>: Sep 16 07:31PM +0200

> You will give an account of your life and you will self-condemn.
 
Now that's something I won't argue with! I am accoutable for what I do,
and I am accountable to myself.
 
> All of this information is there for you to receive and learn from.
> Only a fool would turn away from it upon the testimony of many who
> point to its accuracy
 
In my mind the correctness of a religion (or any other theory) isn't a
matter of voting. I it were, Christianity (and Islam too) would loose by
a wide margin against the Chinese beliefs.
 
cheers,
Wouter "Deities? No thanks" van Ooijen
"Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com>: Sep 16 10:42AM -0700

To all Christians, please join with me in prayer:
 
Our Father, glory to Your name, and to Your Son, and Your Holy Spirit.
We ask You to pour out Your Holy Spirit upon the inmost hearts and minds
of those men and women who will be saved, that they might be drawn to
Your Son, come to repentance, ask forgiveness for their sin, an be saved
by His blood. May You surround them with Your holy angels, leading them
toward right and proper things, away from sin, toward holiness, prompted
from within to a pursuit of Your Holy Spirit and all truth. May You call
out to every person from within, and draw them near to You so that they
too might receive salvation.
 
We come before You, our Father, through the blood of Your Son, Jesus
Christ. We ask You for grace and mercy in our lives, and for the lives
of those whom You have placed around us, even all people. May we
receive Your gift of salvation.
 
May Your will be done here on Earth as it is in Heaven. May You be
magnified and glorified in our hearts and minds, actions and deeds,
and may we call upon You to be the head of our lives, the One who gives
us all guidance, that we may thrive in service to Your eternal Kingdom,
even yet while still here upon this Earth.
 
It is in the precious name of Jesus Christ we pray for these things.
Amen.
 
Best regards,
Rick C. Hodgin
"Chris M. Thomasson" <invalid@invalid.invalid>: Sep 15 07:14PM -0700

On 9/14/2016 12:45 AM, Öö Tiib wrote:
> I/O or programs consuming resources of computer when you run the
> program (you move mouse, click keyboard, some packet is exchanged
> with net, some multimedia is decoded by other program etc.).
 
Right. I was wondering if there can ever be a set period, of perfect
repetitions wrt the output of the race-infested based fetch-and-add
scheme. Keep in mind that a simple "mouse move" can cause the system to
act in a sort of "unpredictable" nature wrt current load, and scheduler
state, so to speak. Humm... Imagine running this on n computers in a PC
bang, and dynamically comparing all of the results:
 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PC_bang
 
Does this sound like total non-sense, or just a little!?
 
;^o
"Öö Tiib" <ootiib@hot.ee>: Sep 16 10:33AM -0700

On Friday, 16 September 2016 05:15:09 UTC+3, Chris M. Thomasson wrote:
> scheme. Keep in mind that a simple "mouse move" can cause the system to
> act in a sort of "unpredictable" nature wrt current load, and scheduler
> state, so to speak.
 
Exactly, I wanted to say that its unpredictability is thanks to entropy
from I/O and other processes. It can be perfect cycle only when those
random factors are missing or are not random for some reason.
 
 
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PC_bang
 
> Does this sound like total non-sense, or just a little!?
 
> ;^o
 
You are interested in data science? Data science makes sense even when
data that is analyzed is bordering on meaningless. The skills can be
very useful. Otherwise I think that there are plenty of data easily
available whose analyzing can be more rewarding.
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