Tuesday, September 6, 2016

Digest for comp.lang.c++@googlegroups.com - 7 updates in 2 topics

"Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com>: Sep 06 12:36PM -0700

On Tuesday, September 6, 2016 at 3:23:55 PM UTC-4, gwowen wrote:
 
> I cannot see the existence of God in the senseless murder of a young
> woman by someone who, just like you, was so utterly convinced that she
> was an agent of God's will that she had lost all reason.
 
In this crime you see the existence of sin, and the influence of the enemy
I bring to your attention to. The same enemy that leads people to commit
"non harmful" acts of sin (secret sexual liaisons, at home drunkenness,
gambling, stealing from the company, etc.) also leads others to conduct
"harmful" acts of sin, whereby other physical bodies or property are
damaged.
 
Those are the traits we see outwardly, but the base cause of those heinous
acts is sin, and the enemy influence (who is spirit, invisible, but is
there like the "devil on the shoulder" enticing the person to do the bad
things).
 
Even in such a case, God is there. The creation He made in the form of
the body which, if it could be frozen in time and examined by a competent
scientist, would be able to discover the design of creation at work, the
love and care given to its design, the age of those involved (that they
have had food and water and education and care given to them for how many
years), and if those years were also examined you'd see the opportunities
they had to not commit that act of sin, the many places in their life where
God reached out to them to try to get their attention and draw them back to
what's right, and so on.
 
God is always there. It is the enemy of God who tries to pawn off on
another their influence. The fact that they are invisible makes it so very
easy to do. But, God has given us faculties to recognize invisible things.
We cannot see love, but you can see the effects of love in the way a person
behaves. You cannot see the evil spirit influence, but you can see the
effect of the evil spirit influence in the way a person behaves.
 
God is always there. But the enemy is always there as well, enticing
people to commit sin. And the enemy is very keen on getting people to do
heinous acts in the name of Christianity, or in some way related to Jesus
Christ, in an attempt to soil His name, or to make it much easier for those
"good people" who would read of someone doing such a thing to summarily
conclude that such activity is "all Christians," and dismiss it without
investigating further.
 
But the voice of God calls out continually within each of us, and His voice
sounds in men and women like me who do raise their voice for Him, teaching
that such acts are not of God, but bringing attention to the enemy who is
there trying to deceive you into believing that such acts exist because 1)
God doesn't exist, or 2) God is evil if He does exist, and so on.
 
The real God, the real Jesus Christ, the true God is unapproachable because
He is so Holy, so Perfect, so Amazingly Awesome, and so Far Beyond us. It
is only through His Son that we are able to approach Him, which is why He
sent His Son ... to make a way back for us to Him.
 
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What you see as hateful behavior in others is the result of sin. What you
see in Jesus Christ being willing to forgive your sin is real love. And it
is to Him I direct you, not toward the behavior of those who are acting in
sin in this world.
 
Best regards,
Rick C. Hodgin
Gareth Owen <gwowen@gmail.com>: Sep 06 08:54PM +0100


> In this crime you see the existence of sin, and the influence of the
> enemy I bring to your attention to
 
Sorry, you said you could see God in *all* places.
"Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com>: Sep 06 12:55PM -0700

On Sunday, September 4, 2016 at 10:48:36 AM UTC-4, Rick C. Hodgin wrote:
> and it stood fast.
 
> He has glorious plans for your life, and for all of mankind. He extends
> the invitation to all. Be one who receives. Live on.
 
God's greatest gift to us is our volition. The Bible records:
 
http://biblehub.com/kjv/revelation/3-20.htm
20 Behold, I stand at the door, and knock: if any man hear my voice,
and open the door, I will come in to him, and will sup with him,
and he with me.
 
He knocks. But He will not force Himself upon anyone. He is giving
everyone the ability to choose, and He is honoring their choices.
 
As I have said many times, Jesus Christ will not send anyone to Hell.
But each person, by their own actions and choices, will send themselves
to Hell, because Jesus Christ's death on the cross was sufficient to
atone for every sin by every person on the Earth, past, present, and
future, but each of us must individually come to Him and receive Him,
asking Him for forgiveness, and receiving our portion of His gift to us,
which is eternal life, and marriage to Him in eternity.
 
We are more than we see in this world. And our existence goes on beyond
our allotted time here in this world. We are amazing creations made in
the very image and likeness of God. It is only sin that has corrupted
our existence to this form we see here in this fallen world. But this
form will not go on forever. It is approaching the end very quickly,
and all those who will be saved are begin gathered unto Him. Those who
will not be saved are being pushed away from Him by their own choices to
not be near Him in any way (run from teaching about Jesus Christ, for
example, never attend a church, avoid those who try to guide people as
per His teachings).
 
Jesus knows who are His, and He draws men and women like me to teach the
people of this world so that those who are His will have the opportunity
to hear His word, to hear the truth, to come out, repent, ask forgiveness,
and be saved. It is for them (those who will be saved) that men and
women like me labor. We don't do it for other reasons. We do it because
men's souls are at stake, and they are of the utmost precious value.
All of them. And Jesus is giving everyone the absolute maximum number of
opportunities to come to Him so that when they stand before Him having
rejected Him, the self-conviction of via their own guilt will be totally
overwhelming, and not a matter of nuance, question, or subtlety.
 
Best regards,
Rick C. Hodgin
"Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com>: Sep 06 01:06PM -0700

On Tuesday, September 6, 2016 at 3:55:05 PM UTC-4, gwowen wrote:
 
> > In this crime you see the existence of sin, and the influence of the
> > enemy I bring to your attention to
 
> Sorry, you said you could see God in *all* places.
 
If the day comes where you are called to stand before God to give an
account of your life (because you did not accept Jesus Christ), you
should remember this exchange and ask God Himself to show you where He
was during this heinous act.
 
His response to you will be so filled with love and compassion and immense
caring and reaching out in every way possible to encourage those involved
to not partake of the sin, that you will fall down on the floor unable to
stand (in your perfect angel-like body of immense strength and ability) for
the weeping at the beauty of His efforts in trying to prevent that act.
 
God is at work continually reaching out to people. But people get to make
their own choices. People are a real creation and God honors them fully,
including in their gift of volition. He warns about the ramifications of
our choices, that sin brings about eternal death in Hell. But people do
not place value on that warning, and continue on in their own wants and
wishes.
 
The enemy of God blinds people's eyes to the truth so that they can only
see hate, and falseness, and negativity. But for those who seek the truth,
who seek out love, God opens people's eyes so that they can see the truth,
and receive the full spectrum of love that He occupies, comforting them in
all areas of their life such that even if they die here in this world, and
even if they die here in this world in heinous ways, yet are they received
in eternity as they are known to Him for that seeking.
 
God is just and fair and honorable and righteous. He does not allow evil
to go unpunished, and He gifts free forgiveness of sin to all who will
receive it. And whereas those who are saved will not receive punishment
for our sin, that sin also does not go unpunished, but Jesus Himself paid
the price of our sin in Hell. He took on the punishment in our place, so
that we could be set free.
 
You should be careful in how you mock God. You do now know Him, and you
do not know what you are saying when you make casual claims about His
existence and attributes. You should learn more about Him. You'll find
out the truth about Him if you do.
 
Best regards,
Rick C. Hodgin
Wouter van Ooijen <wouter@voti.nl>: Sep 06 10:20PM +0200

Op 06-Sep-16 om 7:38 PM schreef Rick C. Hodgin:
>> Not to mention different levels of *existence*! :-)
 
> Are you so blind, Neelam? Can you look around and see evidence of the
> existence of God in all places, at all times, and in all directions?
 
If he is responsible for engineering the universe, life and the rest, he
is either a very incompetent enigineer, or a sadist. In both cases I
don't want anything to do with him.
 
Wouter "Objects? No thanks!" van Ooijen
Gareth Owen <gwowen@gmail.com>: Sep 06 09:20PM +0100

> account of your life (because you did not accept Jesus Christ), you
> should remember this exchange and ask God Himself to show you where He
> was during this heinous act.
 
I suppose I should be thankful that you only metaphorically force your
religion into places its not wanted.
"Alf P. Steinbach" <alf.p.steinbach+usenet@gmail.com>: Sep 06 02:42AM +0200

On 06.09.2016 02:16, Keith Thompson wrote:
 
>> In that, you're right.
 
>> But I have not written or implied it's not.
 
> You use the phrase without pointing out that it's incorrect.
 
No, the term "Windows ANSI" is not incorrect at all: it's the name of
this concept. You can read all about it in Microsoft's documentation
(which I linked to) and in Wikipedia (which I linked to). It's a
misnomer when it's (foolishly) treated as a descriptive term, and it is
the name of this concept.
 
 
 
> implementations expect Windows ANSI, i.e. incompatible with the
> compiler's C++ execution character set, and there's no way to
> change the locale to an UTF-8 one.
 
So, where in that quote is the argument that you're arguing against?
 
Again, I perceive your argumentation as merely a way to throw out
negative associations.
 
You'd have to work pretty hard to convince me otherwise.
 
 
> were called that way since they were purportedly based on drafts
> submitted or intended for ANSI. However, ANSI and ISO have not
> standardized any of these code pages.
 
I think "any of these code pages" is an unwarranted and incorrect
generalization in that quote.
 
But even if the Wikipedia text here were correct, which it doesn't seem
to be, it would not then back up your claim that the code pages were
"never approved" for standardization. For in order for approval to be a
possibility they'd have to be submittedm. The quote does not say they've
been submitted.
 
 
 
>> If so then that's not very honest argumentation.
 
> I think you're overreacting to my criticism. You referred to "Windows
> ANSI". There's really no such thing, though it's a common misuse.
 
It's not a common misuse: it's the name of this concept. Again, you can
read all about it in Microsoft's documentation (which I linked to) and
in Wikipedia (which I linked to). It's misnomer, and it is the name.
Lots of names are misnomers. This name is one, and still, just like
other misnomer names, it's the name; what you use to refer to the thing.
 
 
Cheers!,
 
- Alf
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