Wednesday, July 12, 2017

Digest for comp.lang.c++@googlegroups.com - 15 updates in 3 topics

Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com>: Jul 12 05:47PM -0500

"Sometimes Floating Point Math is Perfect"

https://randomascii.wordpress.com/2017/06/19/sometimes-floating-point-math-is-perfect/
 
Interesting. We moved to 64 bit doubles a couple of decades ago and
have never regretted it.
 
Lynn
"Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com>: Jul 12 12:59PM -0700

The Bible records people will be summoned by name. Earth and Heaven
are fleeing from the Throne of God, and you are being drawn to His
Throne for judgment. It's actually called "The Great White Throne
Judgment."
 
There, the books of your life are opened.
 
What's in those books?
That stuff from your past?
Your youth?
The early sin you did in your wild days?
 
Yes. It's all there. Plus, things you didn't even realize was
sin. And it's all recorded in perfect detail, as if someone with
a great 3D holographic camcorder was following you around for your
entire life recording everything you've ever done ... in public,
in private, in secret, when you were alone, when nobody else saw
what you did. That 3D holographic camcorder did, and every last
detail is written down in the books of Heaven.
 
You're going to be summoned into a type of room you don't want to
be in. You're going to come face to face with things you don't
want to come face to face with. You're going to hear the list of
things you're guilty of read before all of creation, and you will
weep at how heinous you've been in the sight of a Holy, Holy, Holy
God. And you will be found guilty and sentenced to the only
sentence suitable for you, an eternal being made in the very image
and likeness of God, literally a god (lower-case "G") as is taught
us in the Bible. The only punishment suitable for a god is that
which God Almighty has created ... Hell.
 
Hell is a place of burning fire. It's a place of unending torment.
The Bible records there will be no presence of God there, and the
worm will not die, neither will there be any water to quench the
raging heat. Only flames and agony and torment and a binding of
such powerful degree that it will consume you completely, and you
will never have any ability to experience anything ever again,
save the raging pain.
 
------
This fate awaits all who do not come to Jesus and have their sin
forgiven. Jesus came to offer you a choice. He came to offer
you the ability to forego all of that, and to come to Him and
simply say, "Jesus, I am a sinner. I have sinned. I need to be
forgiven. I do not want to go to Hell," and He will forgive you.
 
God does not want to judge anybody. He's made a way out through
His Son for everybody. But those who will not listen to His call,
who will not come and ask forgiveness, repenting of their wrong-
doing in His sight, what I described above remains charged to
their soul's account, and that soul will have to pay the bill for
the sin, rather than Jesus paying the bill for the sin.
 
-----
It's your choice. Jesus gives you the way out. He gives you a
full pardon just for the asking. He saves you from burning alive
forever in utter torment for free, just or coming to Him and
stating the obvious: that you are a sinner, and that you need
to be forgiven.
 
Can you do that? Can you save your eternal soul? Or do you want
to jump headlong into those flames and burn and burn and burn and
burn and burn and burn and burn forever?
 
Who would choose the fiery flames end of their life? What kind
of man would say, "No" to Heaven and paradise in God's own Holy
glowing presence, and, "Yes" to Hell and its unending fire and
pain?
 
Only those who are pursuing falseness will choose Hell, because
they are moving falsely, all the while thinking they are moving
rightly, all because of sin's corruption on our ability to reason
correctly here in this flesh. We need the spirit to know the
truth, and only Jesus can set us on the right path to know the
truth, and only God the Father can know we desire to know the
truth and then alter us sufficiently to be able to even find it
in our fallen, corrupt-in-sin state.
 
-----
With everything within me: PLEASE! Read these posts. They are
the only path you are given to life eternal in peace, love, and
unending joy. And the path you're on today ends in a lake of
fiery torment that never ebbs, never dries out, never calms down.
It rages in fullest flame forever.
 
Thank you,
Rick C. Hodgin
"Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com>: Jul 12 03:31PM -0700

Those who are forgiven have a new life. The old life passes away,
all things are become new. All things. All aspects. All
divisions. All formats. All goals. Everything is changed by
Jesus Christ.
 
https://www.biblegateway.com/verse/en/2%20Corinthians%205:17
 
Therefore if anyone is in Christ [that is, grafted in,
joined to Him by faith in Him as Savior], he is a new creature
[reborn and renewed by the Holy Spirit]; the old things [the
previous moral and spiritual condition] have passed away.
Behold, new things have come [because spiritual awakening
brings a new life].
 
The new life brings a new purpose. It changes everything from
the inside:
 
https://www.biblegateway.com/verse/en/2%20Corinthians%205:15
 
And He died for all, so that all those who live might live no
longer to and for themselves, but to and for Him Who died
and was raised again for their sake.
 
-----
If you're still living for self, you are dead in self.
 
If you ask forgiveness from Him, and live for Him, you are
alive by Him, as is evidenced by your new life focus.
 
Thank you,
Rick C. Hodgin
 
PS - Do you want to live on after you leave this world? Jesus
is the way. The only way because of the cross.
Melzzzzz <Melzzzzz@zzzzz.com>: Jul 11 11:45PM


> People dislike you, they ignore and kill-file you.
Since I killfiled Rick this news groups look more pleasant ;)
 
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"Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com>: Jul 11 04:55PM -0700

On Tuesday, July 11, 2017 at 7:46:17 PM UTC-4, Melzzzzz wrote:
> On 2017-07-11, Öö Tiib <ootiib@hot.ee> wrote:
> > People dislike you, they ignore and kill-file you.
> Since I killfiled Rick this news groups look more pleasant ;)
 
FWIW, I would advise considering how eternity will look, Melzzzzz.
 
There's a story about Esau in the Bible. What was it he sold his
birthright for? It's akin to what people do here on Earth, selling
their birthright (to be the redeemed sons of God) for a short stint
of doing whatever they want in rebellion here upon this Earth.
 
Remember: this life yields to eternity, but eternity never yields.
We'll be spending a lot longer there than we are here, and keeping
up the rebellion against God here on Earth comes with a stiff, stiff
price ... more than anybody will want to pay.
 
Thank you,
Rick C. Hodgin
Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net>: Jul 11 09:58PM -0400

On 7/11/2017 7:45 PM, Melzzzzz wrote:
> On 2017-07-11, Öö Tiib <ootiib@hot.ee> wrote:
 
>> People dislike you, they ignore and kill-file you.
> Since I killfiled Rick this news groups look more pleasant ;)
 
Agreed. I killfiled him when he told me I needed to bow down to his
false Christ.
 
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Reinhardt Behm <rbehm@hushmail.com>: Jul 12 01:02PM +0800

AT Tuesday 11 July 2017 22:53, Rick C. Hodgin wrote:
 
> have come to believe in Jesus Christ are not crazy, but have found
> something you do not yet know.
 
> If you are being honest, does that possibility truly exist?
 
It is not only a possibility. These are real observations of real people.
People lied to me people betrayed me. Then they prayed to their imagined god
and were "forgiven". Then they continued lying and betraying.
This was also an observation of a friend who came as a new teacher into a
school in a mostly catholic neighborhood. He told me they lie and steal the
whole week on Sunday they go to church, confess and are forgiven. The next
week they continue the same way.
My observation with religious people is that they unconsciously notice that
this religion is all a lie and does not comply with reality. This continuous
lying to themselves make them behave the same against others.
 
Fortunately I live now in a country (TW) where these believers in a single
god are a total minority. But still they are trying to force their believe
system on the whole society, and complain about being suppressed if they do
not have success.
The same type of continuous lie.
 
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Reinhardt
Ian Collins <ian-news@hotmail.com>: Jul 12 05:18PM +1200

On 07/12/17 10:12 AM, Rick C. Hodgin wrote:
>> things at you.
 
> Yes. And they also ban me from places where there is moderation.
 
> But why do they ban me?
 
They ban you because you are off-topic and are too pigheaded or
narcissistic to realise that off-topic posting is rude and disrespectful.
 
What you believe is irrelevant, rules are there for a reason.
 
--
Ian
"Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com>: Jul 12 04:29AM -0700

On Wednesday, July 12, 2017 at 1:02:35 AM UTC-4, Reinhardt Behm wrote:
 
> It is not only a possibility. These are real observations of real people.
> People lied to me people betrayed me. Then they prayed to their imagined god
> and were "forgiven". Then they continued lying and betraying.
 
A lot of people use this argument when talking about the reasons why
they don't see Christianity as viable. They say people are hypocrites,
for example, and that they do bad things and just because they pray and
ask forgiveness they are forgiven.
 
That's not how it works. People will have done bad things in their
past, and when they come to Jesus and repent and ask forgiveness,
He forgives them, but that does not give them a license to keep on
sinning. They are expected (by the Lord) from that point forward to
no longer go out and be purposefully sinning.
 
People will always make periodic mistakes, but that doesn't mean
their life will be a pattern of ongoing sin, for such a pattern
provides evidence they were never truly saved in the first place,
and are still just as lost as they were before ... the only
difference now is that they "have found religion."
 
Religion won't save you. Religion is a trap. It locks you down
to a set of rules that appease your conscience so you feel like
you're doing good, but it's not a regeneration. It's not what
Jesus calls us to.
 
Jesus calls us to be truly in repentance, so He can truly forgive
us, so that in being forgiven a real transaction takes place, and
the person is born again spiritually.
 
All people who are born again spiritually will be fundamentally
changed from the inside out. Their lives will change and they
will receive a complete overhaul that is evident from that day
forward. They may stumble and make mistakes at times, but they
will always regroup, apologize, move forward, and the same things
which knocked them down before will not continue to knock them
down over time.
 
> school in a mostly catholic neighborhood. He told me they lie and steal the
> whole week on Sunday they go to church, confess and are forgiven. The next
> week they continue the same way.
 
A lot of people believe this is what it's about. It's not, and
they are the ones the Lord talked about when He said not everyone
who calls upon Him saying even, "Lord, Lord," (stated twice to
indicate the strong emphasis of their calling) will enter in to
the Kingdom of Heaven, but only those who do the will of His Father
who is in Heaven.
 
Jesus calls us to be real in our walk. Not pretenders. And all
who are born again will have this automatic polarity shift from
within that moves us away from our former ways, and toward the
ways He would truly have us do.
 
> My observation with religious people is that they unconsciously notice that
> this religion is all a lie and does not comply with reality. This continuous
> lying to themselves make them behave the same against others.
 
You are correct. Religion is a lie. Religion has no regenerative
power whatsoever.
 
Christianity is not a religion. For some people that's all it
will ever be. But when a person comes to Jesus and asks for
forgiveness for their sin, it begins a relationship. From that
day forward, He comes to dwell within their heart and He is
constantly guiding them away from wrong things, and toward
right things.
 
We still have the inertia of this flesh, our past life, our
friends, the unsaved people in this world, and it is really
quite hard to live out a holy life ... but Jesus does call
us to live out a holy life on purpose, for Him, so that we
can be effective servants of His Father's Kingdom.
 
-----
> system on the whole society, and complain about being suppressed if they do
> not have success.
> The same type of continuous lie.
 
It's good that you see the hypocrisy in many who profess to
be Christians. It means you have the correct discernment
and are able to recognize that what you see is NOT what Jesus
calls us to.
 
No people who are hypocrites will enter in to Heaven. But
only those who are really transformed by the born again spirit
nature.
 
It is that type of regeneration I point people to, Reinhardt.
 
Thank you,
Rick C. Hodgin
"Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com>: Jul 12 04:36AM -0700

On Wednesday, July 12, 2017 at 1:19:04 AM UTC-4, Ian Collins wrote:
 
> They ban you because you are off-topic and are too pigheaded or
> narcissistic to realise that off-topic posting is rude and disrespectful.
 
> What you believe is irrelevant, rules are there for a reason.
 
Consider what Jesus told people. Many people begin in verse 19
here, but it really goes back to verse 18:
 
http://biblehub.com/kjv/matthew/28.htm
 
18 And Jesus came and spake unto them, saying, All power is
given unto me in heaven and in earth.
 
He has foundational authority which supersedes all other authority.
And when you consider what He is asking us to do with that authority,
and I'm not talking about what Reinhardt was talking about where
those who profess to be Christians lie and cheat and do bad things
all week and then go to confession and poof! all better, for that
type of lifestyle is as bad as the full-on sinner, worse actually
because they are operating under the color of being saved by Jesus
Christ and they will receive greater condemnation, but what Jesus
asks us to do is go and teach others:
 
19 Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the
name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost:
 
People think this is a water baptism. But I am convinced that it is
not just a water baptism, but is a full-on immersion in God, meaning
that every aspect of our lives is to be surrendered to the Lord, so
that He can guide us on what to keep, what to alter, and what to toss
away.
 
20 Teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have
commanded you: and, lo, I am with you alway, even unto the
end of the world. Amen.
 
Why does He ask us to observe all things whatsoever He has commanded
us? We're no longer under the Law of Moses, so what does it matter?
 
It has to do with the fact that His ways are profitable, and lead us
away from sin, and keep us on the strait-and-narrow path to life.
It is also the constant inner reminder from His Holy Spirit that we
are to not be like the world, but that our focus is to be upon Him
and His Kingdom, so that others around us can see a true witness and
glorify the Father in Heaven when they stand before Him someday and
bear witness to our activities in this world.
 
-----
Ian, as much as you do not like these posts, they are given you for
a reason (and others for the same reason). They are here to guide
you toward that which you are in rebellion against today, so that
you too are given the opportunity to be saved because God also wants
you to be with Him in Heaven.
 
Thank you,
Rick C. Hodgin
"Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com>: Jul 12 04:42AM -0700

On Wednesday, July 12, 2017 at 1:02:35 AM UTC-4, Reinhardt Behm wrote:
> system on the whole society, and complain about being suppressed if they do
> not have success.
> The same type of continuous lie.
 
To give you a short version of my reply:
 
Yeah, the Lord doesn't call us to be like that. Those people
have religion and are not saved. Being saved means you are
literally transformed from the inside out because when your
sins are truly forgiven, a real transaction takes place and
God supernaturally reaches into the invisible aspects of your
life and pulls your sin away from you (as if taking off a
dirty jacket so that you no longer possess it), and places it
upon His Son on the cross. In that instant, you are then no
longer having sin, which makes you alive again spiritually.
 
When you are alive again spiritually, your entire world view
is augmented by this new source of input, which is spirit.
You are then able to know and understand new things, and the
old things also are re-understood now in new ways, and it all
comes together in a real, inner, permanently changed, life.
 
Jesus != religion.
Jesus = salvation.
 
It takes a real drawing from God the Father (John 6:44) to be
changed, and all who are drawn are saved and they will pass from
death to life and become shining lights for the Lord in this world.
 
The rest have religion and are just as lost after as they were
before.
 
Thank you,
Rick C. Hodgin
"Öö Tiib" <ootiib@hot.ee>: Jul 12 11:08AM -0700

On Wednesday, 12 July 2017 01:13:05 UTC+3, Rick C. Hodgin wrote:
 
> Yes. And they also ban me from places where there is moderation.
 
> But why do they ban me? They are offended by the message I have
> with Jesus.
 
No, it is not fault of Jesus. Jesus did annoy no one in these places.
Lot of them love Jesus, others trust that Jesus does not exist. There
indeed may be *few* who hate Jesus but *all* dislike you.
 
> sin and will be judged for that sin. They do not like the idea of
> having to come before God and say, "I am a sinner. Please forgive
> me." They want to be in control.
 
It is, yes, because you refuse to act civil. You refuse to be nice
because Jesus told you that people must hate you.
 
> not want to be reminded of judgment, or of their sin, because they
> know on the inside what it truly means, because God Himself put His
> stamp there.
 
You don't tell them that you are Christian. You tell them that you are
someone of authority, a teacher, a priest, a reborn, a saint, who helps
them save from their sins, who prays for them and so on. That sounds
like usual false prophet lies. Jesus AFAIK suggested to look at the
fruits of such people. What are your fruits? That everybody hate you?
Good fruits indeed.
 
> > since they believe that such god does not exist whatsoever. How to hate
> > something that does not exist?
 
> It's not a majority rules thing.
 
What? Your usual absurd bananas how everybody hate Jesus, worship Satan,
love doing their mistakes and will be punished for it. Where, who? You
can't point at no one. Yes, posting such nonsense is why people dislike
you. Not Jesus, not God, you. And you know that and do it specially.
"Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com>: Jul 12 11:31AM -0700

On Wednesday, July 12, 2017 at 2:09:24 PM UTC-4, Öö Tiib wrote:
 
> You don't tell them that you are Christian. You tell them that you are
> someone of authority, a teacher, a priest, a reborn, a saint, who helps
> them save from their sins, who prays for them and so on.
 
I have never said I am someone of authority. And I have said that we,
Christians, have no authority except that which He gives us, and it is
only when we act in His name that we have authority.
 
> like usual false prophet lies. Jesus AFAIK suggested to look at the
> fruits of such people. What are your fruits? That everybody hate you?
> Good fruits indeed.
 
You are judging me by your prior experiences with other people who have
professed to have a relationship with Jesus Christ, and there's nothing
I can do about that.
 
> love doing their mistakes and will be punished for it. Where, who? You
> can't point at no one. Yes, posting such nonsense is why people dislike
> you. Not Jesus, not God, you. And you know that and do it specially.
 
It is what Jesus taught, Öö Tiib:
 
http://biblehub.com/luke/11-23.htm
23 Whoever is not with me is against me, and whoever does not
gather with me scatters.
 
http://biblehub.com/john/3-18.htm
18 Whoever believes in [Jesus] is not condemned, but whoever
does not believe stands condemned already because they have
not believed in the name of God's one and only Son.
 
We are already dead in sin, Öö Tiib. We are already under judgment.
 
What Jesus offers us is THE ONLY way out of that condemnation. And
He offers it for free.
 
-----
You accuse me of teaching false things, or intruding here upon this
forum and other forums with the message of salvation, and that I am
doing to improperly.
 
Have you read the Bible? Have you studied who Jesus is? Why He
came to the Earth? What He offers us? What will happen to us if
we do not receive His free offer?
 
You consider it all to be fantasy and fake, so you are using man's
reasoning rather than the guidance and teaching of God to come to
your conclusions. So, how can they be valid in God's eyes? They
can only be valid in man's eyes ... and man is perishing in sin.
 
Thank you,
Rick C. Hodgin
"Chris M. Thomasson" <invalid@invalid.invalid>: Jul 12 02:39PM -0700

On 7/12/2017 11:31 AM, Rick C. Hodgin wrote:
[...]
> I have never said I am someone of authority. And I have said that we,
> Christians, have no authority except that which He gives us, and it is
> only when we act in His name that we have authority.
[...]
 
You start saying you are not in a position of authority, the go on to
explain why you actually are. Strange.
"Chris M. Thomasson" <invalid@invalid.invalid>: Jul 12 02:48PM -0700

On 7/11/2017 3:32 PM, Rick C. Hodgin wrote:
> On Tuesday, July 11, 2017 at 5:46:19 PM UTC-4, Chris M. Thomasson wrote:
>> On 7/11/2017 12:44 PM, Rick C. Hodgin wrote:
[...]
 
> No. Just you, Chris. You're filled with a particular kind of
> evil spirit, Chris, and you are wholly rogue. You're so much
> like I was before I came to faith that it's terrifying.
 
Humm... I see that you simply do not seem to be able to understand the
fact that saying that I have some sort of demonic attachment, would not
be akin to pushing me up against a wall. When I try to fight your
unwarranted assault off, then you blame me, and say the demonic forces
are casting their will through my mind.
 
Wow. Why do you do that to others? Wow.
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