- What is the spirit nature? - 23 Updates
| leigh.v.johnston@googlemail.com: Jul 11 04:38AM -0700 Fuck. Off. |
| "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com>: Jul 11 04:46AM -0700 [At the Judgment] God: "I sent many servants to teach you of Me. What was your reply?" Thank you, Rick C. Hodgin |
| Reinhardt Behm <rbehm@hushmail.com>: Jul 11 08:42PM +0800 AT Tuesday 11 July 2017 19:46, Rick C. Hodgin wrote: > God: "I sent many servants to teach you of Me. What was your reply?" > Thank you, > Rick C. Hodgin Keep you pink unicorns for yourself. -- Reinhardt |
| "Öö Tiib" <ootiib@hot.ee>: Jul 11 06:08AM -0700 On Tuesday, 11 July 2017 14:46:27 UTC+3, Rick C. Hodgin wrote: > [At the Judgment] > God: "I sent many servants to teach you of Me. What was your reply?" "Why did you say to Rick that you want him to pursue hate of others?" |
| "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com>: Jul 11 06:25AM -0700 On Tuesday, July 11, 2017 at 8:42:22 AM UTC-4, Reinhardt Behm wrote: > > [At the Judgment] > > God: "I sent many servants to teach you of Me. What was your reply?" > Keep you pink unicorns for yourself. If I were speaking about something imaginary, your statement would be valid. I used to think it was imaginary, but then I met the Lord one day. From that day forward, by the spirit nature, I have known that we are all being deceived in this world in the flesh by a horrible enemy. These words that I teach you are not my words. They are His words, and I teach you because He wants you to be saved and thrive and shine on after you leave this world. I point you to Him, not to me, not to your local church pastor, not to an evangelist or author, but to the Lord Himself, because ONLY HE can save you. ----- Consider it, Reinhardt. I'm not alone in this in the world in coming to Jesus or teaching about Him. Seek out the ones around you who have also been saved. Inquire of them face-to-face about this thing called salvation. Thank you, Rick C. Hodgin |
| "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com>: Jul 11 06:30AM -0700 On Tuesday, July 11, 2017 at 9:08:54 AM UTC-4, Öö Tiib wrote: > > [At the Judgment] > > God: "I sent many servants to teach you of Me. What was your reply?" > "Why did you say to Rick that you want him to pursue hate of others?" It's not hate to warn people of those things God Himself has told us He will judge. It is the enemy of this world who focuses our attention on only those things in this world. But there is more beyond what we see here today. That's the purpose of my original post in this thread, to teach you that. God doesn't want to judge anybody. He wants everyone to come to repent of their sin and ask forgiveness and be saved. But God will be forced to judge people by His own Law if they will not come to Jesus and ask forgiveness, because they have rejected God, rejected the truth, and rejected everything that is right and true and holy and proper in His universe. If you had a software algorithm that was rejecting what you've told it to do ... what would you do with it? Would you go ahead and let it be a part of your app? Or would you delete it and replace it with some- thing that would work properly? God essentially did that with Israel. They rejected Jesus as their Messiah, so God reached out to the rest of the world and now calls all to Him, forgiving all of their sin, and making them perfect and wholly righteous in Christ. ----- We can all live eternally as the literal sons of God. Jesus makes it possible because He takes our sin away, and restores us to eternal life. That's not hate. That's love magnified (God's love magnified to us, in that while we were yet sinners He came to die for us and save us). Thank you, Rick C. Hodgin |
| Reinhardt Behm <rbehm@hushmail.com>: Jul 11 10:48PM +0800 AT Tuesday 11 July 2017 21:25, Rick C. Hodgin wrote: > salvation. > Thank you, > Rick C. Hodgin I prefer rational people around me, not people who believe in invisible friends. My experience with such people is they are so used to lie to themselves that you can not trust them. -- Reinhardt |
| Daniel <danielaparker@gmail.com>: Jul 11 07:51AM -0700 On Tuesday, July 11, 2017 at 9:30:25 AM UTC-4, Rick C. Hodgin wrote: > to do ... what would you do with it? Would you go ahead and let it be > a part of your app? Or would you delete it and replace it with some- > thing that would work properly? What if it still didn't work, but showed signs of having found Jesus, perhaps turning on the printer and printing about Jesus when it's supposed to do payroll? To be honest, I'd probably still delete it. Daniel |
| "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com>: Jul 11 07:53AM -0700 On Tuesday, July 11, 2017 at 10:48:57 AM UTC-4, Reinhardt Behm wrote: > I prefer rational people around me, not people who believe in invisible > friends. My experience with such people is they are so used to lie to > themselves that you can not trust them. I would like to ask you if you know everything? Answer truthfully. If you do not yet know everything, I would like suggest that you consider the possibility that your current thinking that people who have come to believe in Jesus Christ are not crazy, but have found something you do not yet know. If you are being honest, does that possibility truly exist? Thank you, Rick C. Hodgin |
| "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com>: Jul 11 08:04AM -0700 On Tuesday, July 11, 2017 at 10:51:23 AM UTC-4, Daniel wrote: > What if it still didn't work, but showed signs of having found Jesus, > perhaps turning on the printer and printing about Jesus when it's > supposed to do payroll? To be honest, I'd probably still delete it. LOL. I think there was a movie similar to that back in the 80s. I'm trying to remember the name, but the gist of it was a young man got a new computer and it was supposed to be a tool to do the things he needed it to do. But something happened, and it began to talk to him, and tell him and do and show him other things, like it had AI. :-) FWIW, Jesus wants us to do the things we do in this world. He wants us to do them for Him, so that we are doing them rightly. There is an enemy that guides us toward harm and self-destruction in this world. Jesus wants us to come to Him and be forgiven and saved, and then to go forth doing the normal things we do, but with a renewed purpose, which is His purpose of reaching out to others so they too can be saved. Jesus doesn't want to trample our life. He wants to give us new life, and a new purpose, which is the right purpose that is not one focused solely on this world, but acknowledges our eternal condition of sin ahead of other things, and then goes forward with the other things. I hope this makes sense. Thank you, Rick C. Hodgin |
| Daniel <danielaparker@gmail.com>: Jul 11 08:20AM -0700 On Tuesday, July 11, 2017 at 11:04:34 AM UTC-4, Rick C. Hodgin wrote: > condition of sin ahead of other things, and then goes forward > with the other things. > I hope this makes sense. It doesn't, I'm afraid. I think it makes more sense to believe that the gods created man for entertainment, much as we watch television. You'd get kind of bummed out, too, if you had to spend eternity doing ... what, exactly? You'd want to create something to entertain you if you had that kind of power. Daniel |
| "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com>: Jul 11 08:32AM -0700 On Tuesday, July 11, 2017 at 11:20:51 AM UTC-4, Daniel wrote: > of bummed out, too, if you had to spend eternity doing ... what, exactly? > You'd want to create something to entertain you if you had that kind of > power. That's a natural thought to have. When we don't have facts, we come up with ideas to fill in the blanks. It's why you should investigate what the Bible actually teaches. You'll find that it's not just a story, but it's more. It also gives you a very explicit narrative, and if you examine it deep enough, you'll see how it also fills in all the outwardly apparent gaps, and is actually complete and solid. That spirit nature original post I wrote teaches a narrative that explains a component we here in our natural flesh do not yet know, but are able to understand when explained, even if it seems to be impossible or implausible. It could be understood if it were a Sci-Fi movie and aliens were controlling something by using their monitoring stations and what not. The only reason it seems impossible to us as being from God is because there are evil spirits dwelling all around us who give us feelings which push us away from those we get when something seems truthful, and instead pushes us toward those we get when something seems like a lie. Those feelings are not our own, but are being induced upon us. And God promises us that if we push through those initial feelings and press in and seek the truth, then those feelings will subside and the truth will be revealed. God wants truth-seekers ... those who are willing to say, "NO! You have to PROVE TO ME the truth," but are of the kind who then also are willing to REALLY LISTEN to the response to God will give, because when God "speaks" He does so in many different wants, but if you are listening you will be given the correlation between your original questions and God's answers to you. It really is there before each of us ... but it requires some prompting like this in order to nudge us in that direction. Thank you, Rick C. Hodgin |
| "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com>: Jul 11 08:36AM -0700 On Tuesday, July 11, 2017 at 11:32:30 AM UTC-4, Rick C. Hodgin wrote: > us. And God promises us that if we push through those initial > feelings and press in and seek the truth, then those feelings > will subside and the truth will be revealed. Word corrections included below: > between your original questions and God's answers to you. > It really is there before each of us ... but it requires some > prompting like this in order to nudge us in that direction. Thank you, Rick C. Hodgin |
| Daniel <danielaparker@gmail.com>: Jul 11 09:28AM -0700 On Tuesday, July 11, 2017 at 11:36:25 AM UTC-4, Rick C. Hodgin wrote: > > will give, because when God "speaks" He does so in many different > > ways, but if you are listening you will be given the correlation > > between your original questions and God's answers to you. You're not very good at this conversion business, are you :-) Have you actually ever converted anyone? Of course, I'm only guessing, but I'd guess that you haven't fully converted yourself, and are posting these things for yourself, to try to convince yourself, and not just to make Mr Flibble cross. Daniel |
| "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com>: Jul 11 10:10AM -0700 On Tuesday, July 11, 2017 at 12:29:05 PM UTC-4, Daniel wrote: > > > between your original questions and God's answers to you. > You're not very good at this conversion business, are you :-) Have you > actually ever converted anyone? It's not the job of a Christian to convert people. It can't be done externally. God has to reach in to a person's heart and flip invisible switches, and it is that change which then causes a person to be drawn from within to Jesus. It will never happen any other way. It's why I teach what I teach here. I provide the information to those who will be saved. The message is for them and them only. It is not for other people. Thank you, Rick C. Hodgin |
| "Chris M. Thomasson" <invalid@invalid.invalid>: Jul 11 12:25PM -0700 On 7/11/2017 10:10 AM, Rick C. Hodgin wrote: >> You're not very good at this conversion business, are you :-) Have you >> actually ever converted anyone? > It's not the job of a Christian to convert people. Imvho, you seem to be trying to do just that Rick. Some people would love to be left in peace. Try not to badger them. |
| "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com>: Jul 11 12:44PM -0700 On Tuesday, July 11, 2017 at 3:25:23 PM UTC-4, Chris M. Thomasson wrote: > >> actually ever converted anyone? > > It's not the job of a Christian to convert people. > Imvho... I'll tell you what ... I'll give your advice (of asking me to silence the teachings which lead people to salvation and eternal life) the full and complete spectrum of consideration it's due, Chris. There. All done. If you knew who it was you were turning your back on, you'd fall to your knees and repent this very second in tears and wailing. The day is coming for all people when they will know why Christians took the time to reach out to people and guide them to Jesus. For so many, it will be too late when that realization comes: Human souls cast into the lake of fire. Forever. Never to return. Always in torment. Always agony, because they would not believe the truth. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zO8t2L9TcAU&t=8m30s It is that very end Christians seek to save people from by pointing the way to the only One who CAN save people. Thank you, Rick C. Hodgin |
| "Öö Tiib" <ootiib@hot.ee>: Jul 11 01:15PM -0700 On Tuesday, 11 July 2017 16:30:25 UTC+3, Rick C. Hodgin wrote: > > > God: "I sent many servants to teach you of Me. What was your reply?" > > "Why did you say to Rick that you want him to pursue hate of others?" > It's not hate to warn ... etc. and immediate reading comprehension problem detected like usual with you. TLDR the rest of it. I did not write that you hate people. I did not write that god hates people. I wrote that you want to make people to hate you. I wrote that you *claim* that your god is the reason why you want to make people to hate you. You are likely mistaken, I can not imagine any god that wants to be such reason. |
| "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com>: Jul 11 01:23PM -0700 On Tuesday, July 11, 2017 at 4:16:19 PM UTC-4, Öö Tiib wrote: > I did not write that you hate people. > I did not write that god hates people. > I wrote that you want to make people to hate you. I did not get that from your word usage. I still don't because the words "him to pursue hate of others" means me pursuing my hate of others. You should write, "him to encourage the hate of others." > I wrote that you *claim* that your god is the reason why you want to > make people to hate you. You are likely mistaken, I can not imagine > any god that wants to be such reason. People don't hate me. They hate God. I am the one reminding them of a coming day of judgment, and pointing them to the One who will today save them ... so their hatred of God is transferred on to me as the messenger. It has always been this way. I do not have any judgment to give you, Öö Tiib. I actually do not want you judged. I want you and everyone else to come to Jesus and ask forgiveness and pass by judgment and enter into life, even into eternal life. It's why I point you to Jesus ... so you won't be judged. Thank you, Rick C. Hodgin |
| "Öö Tiib" <ootiib@hot.ee>: Jul 11 02:33PM -0700 On Tuesday, 11 July 2017 23:23:43 UTC+3, Rick C. Hodgin wrote: > I did not get that from your word usage. I still don't because the > words "him to pursue hate of others" means me pursuing my hate of > others. You should write, "him to encourage the hate of others." Sorry, it is always possible that I misused English; it is 4th language that I learned to tongue. What I meant was that you want to make others to hate you. > of a coming day of judgment, and pointing them to the One who will > today save them ... so their hatred of God is transferred on to me > as the messenger. People dislike you, they ignore and kill-file you. They write nasty things at you. Your message is nonsensical since: * Christians (33% people) can't hate Christian God, they want to be loved by their God. * The followers of Judaism and Islam (22% of people) believe that God is same but misinterpreted by Christians. They can't hate Him, they just trust that the God needs to be served differently than Christians suggest. * The followers of other religions and atheists can't hate Christian god since they believe that such god does not exist whatsoever. How to hate something that does not exist? So who it is who hates your god? You want to make people to hate you since they can't hate your god? Why it all is about hate? > It has always been this way. That does not make sense by any logic. > I do not have any judgment to give you, Öö Tiib. What judgement? My skills have helped me in my life. I try to help other people to gain similar skills. I don't have any knowledge about gods. I have rather firm reasons to believe that gods don't exist and that you are simply mistaken. |
| "Chris M. Thomasson" <invalid@invalid.invalid>: Jul 11 02:46PM -0700 On 7/11/2017 12:44 PM, Rick C. Hodgin wrote: > There. All done. > If you knew who it was you were turning your back on, you'd fall > to your knees and repent this very second in tears and wailing. I do not need you, or anybody like you, to know God Rick. You push people up against a wall, and blame them when they fight back. Wow. |
| "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com>: Jul 11 03:12PM -0700 On Tuesday, July 11, 2017 at 5:33:55 PM UTC-4, Öö Tiib wrote: > Sorry, it is always possible that I misused English; it is 4th language > that I learned to tongue. What I meant was that you want to make others > to hate you. I understand. > > as the messenger. > People dislike you, they ignore and kill-file you. They write nasty > things at you. Yes. And they also ban me from places where there is moderation. But why do they ban me? They are offended by the message I have with Jesus. They are offended by me reminding them that they have sin and will be judged for that sin. They do not like the idea of having to come before God and say, "I am a sinner. Please forgive me." They want to be in control. I've done tests actually. I've gone places and been like other people. I've not used profanity or vulgarity, but I also didn't say anything about Jesus. I just talked about whatever. People liked me. They conversed with me. We had jokes, fun times, and so on. But when something came up and I was in a position where it was correct to tell them I was a Christian ... they run. They do not want to be reminded of judgment, or of their sin, because they know on the inside what it truly means, because God Himself put His stamp there. > * The followers of other religions and atheists can't hate Christian god > since they believe that such god does not exist whatsoever. How to hate > something that does not exist? It's not a majority rules thing. It's based upon truth. The Jews rejected Jesus, and are currently blinded to seeing Him as their Messiah. Once the Christian church is raptured out of this world, the blindness will be removed, and Israel will finally see Jesus as their Messiah. And at that point, Israel will be unstoppable, and will be hated by all nations. Islam and all other religions do not know the true God, but are following after lies by the enemy (Satan) who is the author of every false religion. > So who it is who hates your god? You want to make people to hate > you since they can't hate your god? Why it all is about hate? People do hate God. It's in our sin nature. God is spirit, and He is truth, and in our sin nature we are falseness, and we are in rebellion against truth. All people worldwide hate God ... until God flips that invisible internal switch which draws men to His Son, where they come to repent and ask forgiveness, and are forgiven and born again of the spirit in that very moment (John 6:44, John 3). It does not happen any other way. This entire world is in sin and lost. The fact that God saves any of us is a miracle. The fact that He's willing to save all of us who come to Him, who will seek the truth and be drawn from within in their seeking to Him ... that's just pouring out of His love for His creation. > > It has always been this way. > That does not make sense by any logic. It's the nature of sin. If you look into the past in Israel, for example, they killed the prophets, the ones called by God to speak His words to His people to warn them and guide them and lead them in this world. In our sin, in our fallen nature, we do not want to hear God. However, we will readily hear a false God, because the evil spirits at work against our flesh draw us to false things. We are unaware of their input in spirit form, but feel the result of their input in our flesh, such that we are naturally drawn away from the truth by our sin, and by them using our sin against us, and toward those things which are false. But everyone who will seek the truth will be saved. > people to gain similar skills. I don't have any knowledge about gods. > I have rather firm reasons to believe that gods don't exist and that you > are simply mistaken. All people have sinned. You can compare your life to the Ten Commandments and see your failing: Have you ever stolen anything? Even one thing? Ever? Have you ever told a lie? Even one lie? Ever? Have you ever wanted what someone else had? Even one time? Ever? Have you ever lusted after someone who was not your spouse? Even one time? Ever? We're all guilty of sin, but even beyond that we are born in this world already spiritually dead, our inherited state from Adam. Our flesh is alive, but our spirit is dead, and it is dead because of sin. But when we come to Jesus and ask Him to forgive our sin, He literally transfers it away from us to Himself at the cross, so that when He died on the cross our sin went with Him and no longer is associated with us. He became our sin in our place, such that all who will believe in Him and ask Him to forgive their sin will be forgiven. They will be as though they had no sin before God, which makes them alive again spiritually, which restores them to how Adam and Eve were on this world before the fall, before original sin. ----- It's not possible for the flesh to understand this. The only way you will understand it is if God is drawing you from withing. He will flip those internal invisible switches that make it possible for you to come be able to hear and understand these things, as it is He, not me, who is drawing you to this source of His words, so that you can have a companion in this world to continue guiding you as you go. God draws all people to salvation in this way, with Him being that continuous, communal, connecting inner guide, for He is spirit and is able to be within all of us all the time continually. If you can hear Him calling you, answer Him. It's a precious gift. He's reaching out to save your eternal soul, and give you eternal life. Thank you, Rick C. Hodgin |
| "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com>: Jul 11 03:32PM -0700 On Tuesday, July 11, 2017 at 5:46:19 PM UTC-4, Chris M. Thomasson wrote: > > If you knew who it was you were turning your back on, you'd fall > > to your knees and repent this very second in tears and wailing. > I do not need you, or anybody like you, to know God Rick. You are correct. All a person needs to know God is to seek the truth. When they do, God Himself will look into that person's life and intent and will know they are seeking the truth with a real focus. God will then reach in and supernaturally draw that person to His Son, where they will repent and ask forgiveness and be born again of the spirit. After they are forgiven and born again of the spirit, they will be drawn by their new polarity shift to other saints who are saved and will know from within their innermost core what it truly means to be saved, and they will rejoice in the message of the Lord going forth, for it will be water to their soul, joy to their core, just to hear His name going forth, with teachings of grace, and love, and mercy everlasting! Such a person who knows God will rejoice that Jesus has come to make peace with sinful man, that He is willing to give him a way out of His transgressions. Contrast that response to you, Chris: "Hey Rick, stop talking about God. Just talk about C++." > You push people up against a wall, and blame them when they > fight back. Wow. No. Just you, Chris. You're filled with a particular kind of evil spirit, Chris, and you are wholly rogue. You're so much like I was before I came to faith that it's terrifying. Thank you, Rick C. Hodgin |
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