Monday, October 23, 2017

Digest for comp.lang.c++@googlegroups.com - 12 updates in 6 topics

Juha Nieminen <nospam@thanks.invalid>: Oct 23 05:20AM

> Only if one is as moronic as the current american president.
 
The funny thing about leftists is that they behave like their political
opinions are their religion. They just can't help but to constantly
bring it up in contexts that have absolutely nothing to do with
politics. It's like that religious retard who keeps spamming this
newsgroup with his retarded religious drivel.
 
As Winston Churchill once said, "a fanatic is one who can't change
his mind and won't change the subject."
Daniel <danielaparker@gmail.com>: Oct 23 07:13AM -0700

On Monday, October 23, 2017 at 1:20:32 AM UTC-4, Juha Nieminen wrote:
 
> The funny thing about leftists is that ... [they] just can't help but to
> constantly bring it up ...
 
Absolutely, it's almost as annoying as watching the "less educated" referring
to a vast heterogeneity of people as "leftists", possibly including old style
socialists (but they probably don't know any), and definitely including the
CEO's of Google and Facebook, vegans that protest deer culls by Native
Americans, vegans that protest the presumptuousness of vegans protesting deer
culls by Native Americans, folks that cross to the left side of the street to
evade a skunk walking down the right side, etc.
 
Daniel
bitrex <bitrex@de.lete.earthlink.net>: Oct 23 06:19PM -0400

On 10/23/2017 01:20 AM, Juha Nieminen wrote:
> newsgroup with his retarded religious drivel.
 
> As Winston Churchill once said, "a fanatic is one who can't change
> his mind and won't change the subject."
 
The American Right is the party for people with no actual problems in
life and can't understand why someone wouldn't vote a bloviating,
washed-up reality TV star president simply for entertainment
value/enjoying it being upsetting to people they don't like
David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no>: Oct 23 09:59AM +0200

>> an excellent point.
 
> I think we disagree on this:
> https://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/the-seven-noachide-laws
 
Since you can't see past your obsession about swearing, I'll spell it
out for you - I said Mr. Flibble had an excellent point in "Give it a
rest, Brian". Is that clear enough?
 
I also said I think Mr. Flibble's choice of words is sometimes a little
too colourful to be appropriate in a technical newsgroup (though it
fitted in well in this case). But we all know he uses "sausage words"
primarily to please /you/, so that you can feel self-righteous by
posting a complaint.
 
 
Of course we disagree on a list of "laws" from Noah - I don't think a
myth about one mythical being giving a list to another mythical being is
any basis for law. But just for fun, lets take a quick look. I am
using the list from Wikipedia rather than some random religious site.
 
1. Not to worship idols.
 
And this is coming from a bunch of Jews (and later Christians) ?
 
2. Not to curse God.
 
I thought mankind was supposed to be free? That includes the right to
disagree with the leadership - it's one of the pillars of modern Western
society.
 
3. To establish courts of justice.
 
Justice via impartial courts is a great thing, and it was smart of the
early Jews to copy it from the Sumerians. It's a pity they spoiled it
with such absurdly over-the-top punishments for things that cannot
sanely be seen as a crime in the first place. And it's a pity that the
guy that is supposedly behind all this - "god" - has a appointed himself
as judge, jury and executioner based on a vast array of arbitrary rules
without clarification.
 
4. Not to commit murder.
 
That's also a good idea. Christians and Jews haven't been any better at
following it than anyone else.
 
5. Not to commit adultery or sexual immorality.
 
Given the OT's bizarre lists of sexual acts that are banned, and sexual
acts that are perfectly acceptable, I can't see it being a sensible
guide to anything. I think #8 on the list below is a much healthier and
more natural attitude.
 
6. Not to steal.
 
See number 4.
 
7. Not to eat flesh torn from a living animal.
 
It's more humane to kill the animal first, I agree. And then use a
knife and fork - table manners cost nothing, and make meal times much
more pleasant.
 
 
I see no rule on this list that Mr. Flibble broke. It says nothing
about not swearing at Usenet evangelists.
 
 
If you want a set of rules to guide you through a happy, friendly and
productive life, you are better off with these:
 
<http://flyingspaghettimonster.wikia.com/wiki/The_Eight_I%27d_Really_Rather_You_Didn%27ts>
David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no>: Oct 23 10:08AM +0200

On 23/10/17 00:43, Mr Flibble wrote:
 
>> Sadly Brian has shown on multiple occasions (including this one) that
>> he is a bigoted, misogynist homophobic cunt (behaviour typical of most
>> proselytising Christians).
 
I've met evangelistic Christians who are a lot less bigoted and are
pleasant and friendly people - mostly because they know when it makes
sense to evangelise, and when not to. I've also met some
extraordinarily bigoted "Sunday Christians" - and even some raving
homophobic atheists. There is a statistical correlation between
proselytising Christians and bigots, but it is certainly not exclusive.
 
 
> But in saying that Hodgin is an order of magnitude worse than Brian;
> Hodgin is a supercunt.
 
Rick's proselytising is certainly far worse than Brian's - but I think
we have heard a lot more bigotry, misogyny and homophobia from Brian.
And we get a lot more technical and on-topic posts from Rick -
especially once we discount Brian's adverts for his own site and software.
David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no>: Oct 23 10:12AM +0200

On 20/10/17 05:29, Chris M. Thomasson wrote:
 
 
> So far so good wrt age: 40. Started off with basic at a young age, < 10,
> less than 6 on an Atari! Basic and PILOT cartridges, and a tape device
> to save my programs. Created many experiments. ;^)
 
I am a few years older than you (45) - I didn't have a chance to start
programming (in Basic) until I was about 8 or 9. But at 6 I had used a
computer (a Commodore Pet) and had decided to be a programmer or a
computer hardware designer when I grew up.
Florian Weimer <fw@deneb.enyo.de>: Oct 23 11:16PM +0200

* woodbrian:
 
> I also think this is a bubble which is likely to burst soon,
> but think those hardest hit will be those who have not embraced
> SaaS.
 
I find that hard to believe. SaaS goes away quickly (and often in an
automated fashion) once you cannot pay the bills due to cashflow
issues. If you run your own stuff, there's much more inertia, which
can be a saving grace under such circumstances.
Juha Nieminen <nospam@thanks.invalid>: Oct 23 05:29AM

> I have enhanced my IQ by working harder on computer science and by inventing many softwares , i have enhanced my IQ by doing more and more
> computer science and operational research and mathematics etc.
 
Wow, you must be a genius then.
Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net>: Oct 23 04:37PM -0400

On 10/23/2017 1:29 AM, Juha Nieminen wrote:
>> I have enhanced my IQ by working harder on computer science and by inventing many softwares , i have enhanced my IQ by doing more and more
>> computer science and operational research and mathematics etc.
 
> Wow, you must be a genius then.
 
Yes, he's an exspurt!
 
ex: has-been
spurt: drip under pressure
 
Pretty sorry case, if you ask me.
 
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ram@zedat.fu-berlin.de (Stefan Ram): Oct 23 04:56AM

>curriculum to an introduction to coding one. I am not so sure my nephew
>(most kids) would be impressed, but maybe some other kid will and I
>would be fine with that.
 
The essence of math is sometimes that which is hidden to any
computer program.
 
For example, fractals.
 
Every curve that can be recursively drawn /by a computer/
program has dimension 1.
 
The fractal is the /limit/ of a series of curves, which has a
fractal dimension and cannot be drawn by any computer program
 
It cannot be seen with the /eyes/, it can only be seen with
the /mind/.
 
Teaching material that applies to the senses sometimes only
makes it harder to develop the abstract view of the mind with
which one can "see" the mathematical concepts.
"Albretch Müller" <tekmonk2005@yahoo.com>: Oct 22 07:37PM -0400

On 10/21/2017 05:44 PM, Jorgen Grahn wrote:
> the parts of mathematics that are more about proving things. I may be
> wrong, but the connection between that aspect of maths and programming
> seems a bit weak.
 
and I am. what I have in mind is kind of mapping the high school Math
curriculum to an introduction to coding one. I am not so sure my nephew
(most kids) would be impressed, but maybe some other kid will and I
would be fine with that.
 
Do you know of attempts at mapping Math at CS concepts in any way?
 
lbrtchx
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