| David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no>: Oct 26 08:35AM +0200 On 25/10/17 18:13, James R. Kuyper wrote: > I'm fairly certain that Rick does. Doesn't he count as somebody? >> Nobody wants endless repeats about how Brian's online code generator ... > I'm fairly certain that Brian does. Doesn't he count as somebody? Thinking about this, it seems the ideal solution for Rick and Brian is to set up blogs for this stuff. Then they can write whatever they want. They can reach a much wider potential audience than these technical newsgroups - maybe they will find people who want to read about it. |
| Jorgen Grahn <grahn+nntp@snipabacken.se>: Oct 26 10:52AM On Wed, 2017-10-25, Tiib wrote: ... > can't be shut. Talking with them does not work. So what remains is > to ignore and/or to filter them on one hand and to post more on-topic > stuff on the other hand. That is just IMHO, YMMV. Not just "IMHO" -- it's the only way USENET has ever worked (and you summarize it well). (Personally I wish I had something interesting and topical to write about to increase the S/N level ... but I'm fairly comfortable in my subset of C++ right now so I don't have any questions, and there are few threads where my comments would be useful.) /Jorgen -- // Jorgen Grahn <grahn@ Oo o. . . \X/ snipabacken.se> O o . |
| "James R. Kuyper" <jameskuyper@verizon.net>: Oct 26 12:18PM -0400 On 2017-10-26 02:35, David Brown wrote: > to set up blogs for this stuff. Then they can write whatever they want. > They can reach a much wider potential audience than these technical > newsgroups - maybe they will find people who want to read about it. That would be the ideal solution for us, but not for them (at least in Rick's case; I'm not familiar with Brian). Rick's talking here, rather than in places where his talks would actually be appropriate, because he wants to reach people who would never bother monitoring his blog, if he had one. He wants his message to reach people who have absolutely no interest in hearing it. It's the very fact that they have no such interest, that makes him want to reach them. He'd probably even agree with me about that description - as far as he's concerned his message is too important to restrict it's distribution only to people who have any interest in receiving it. That's what makes him so annoying - and he just doesn't understand that being so annoying does more harm to his cause than his attempts to spread "The Word" could ever make up for. Since I don't believe in his cause, the fact that he's harming it doesn't bother me - but his co-religionists should be (and have been) trying to rein him in. At least, some of his fellow Christians have been doing so - as far as I can tell, there's (thankfully) no one here that believes in exactly the same brand of Christianity as he does. |
| "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com>: Oct 26 09:46AM -0700 On Thursday, October 26, 2017 at 12:19:04 PM UTC-4, James R. Kuyper wrote: > least, some of his fellow Christians have been doing so - as far as I > can tell, there's (thankfully) no one here that believes in exactly the > same brand of Christianity as he does. My "brand" of Christianity is this: (1) We all have sin. (2) We all need a savior to save us from God's judgment for sin. (3) Jesus came to the Earth as a man to be that savior. (4) We all need Jesus to forgive our sin so we can be saved from judgment. I point people to Christ so they will ask forgiveness for their sin and escape judgment and be saved. I tell this message to people who are still unforgiven for their sin because it is not the healthy who need a doctor, but the sick. I tell you, and the other people in my life, because I care about you. You are "my people" in this area of interest in my life, and I care about you because you are part of my circle. There's no hidden agenda. It is on face value: (1) You have sin and need a savior. (2) Jesus wants to be your savior, just ask Him to forgive your sin. Thank you, Rick C. Hodgin |
| asetofsymbols@gmail.com: Oct 26 11:15AM -0700 Thank you Good written and clear But to say "Forgive me" could be not enough Here one has to confess his sins to a priest (prete) and be penitent contrite and promise to not want repeat these sins. |
| "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com>: Oct 26 01:04PM -0700 > Good written and clear > But to say "Forgive me" could be not enough > Here one has to confess his sins to a priest (prete) and be penitent contrite and promise to not want repeat these sins. Genuine belief and asking forgiveness is the only requirement for salvation. Once one is saved, God pours out the gift of repentance, and such movements toward holiness will naturally follow from within. But, even the thief on the cross was forgiven and entered in to His Kingdom paradise that very day, and he had no opportunity to do good works, to teach others, but simply realized he was wrong, asked for forgiveness, and had he lived he would've continued in repentance because the work of the Holy Spirit is from within your core, and it gives you a new source of input that asserts itself in powerful ways in your life. Thank you, Rick C. Hodgin |
| "Chris M. Thomasson" <invalid_chris_thomasson@invalid.invalid>: Oct 26 01:28PM -0700 On 10/24/2017 11:35 AM, Rick C. Hodgin wrote: >> On Tuesday, October 24, 2017 at 12:18:10 PM UTC-5, Rick C. Hodgin wrote: >> Rick, I don't think what you are doing in this thread is helpful. > What am I doing in this thread, Brian? Perhaps, trying to rewire bits and pieces of it? |
| "Chris M. Thomasson" <invalid_chris_thomasson@invalid.invalid>: Oct 26 01:41PM -0700 > Good written and clear > But to say "Forgive me" could be not enough > Here one has to confess his sins to a priest (prete) and be penitent contrite and promise to not want repeat these sins. I will never forget when I was in a religious school and they wanted me to confess my sins to a priest: Catholic. I gave a simple request to the possibly radically corrupt interrogator... I said to the priest: "Confess _ALL_ of your sins to me first! Then I just might think about conversing with the likes of you. You are way older than me, therefore you must have MUCH more sin to confess buddy! :^D" Well, the priest did not like that, and I got in trouble. Humm, I thought these conversations were private! lol. What a strange scam to pull on a child. Just weird!!! ;^o |
| asetofsymbols@gmail.com: Oct 26 02:12PM -0700 In the Vangelis, it is written that for to forgive all sins; one has to request it to a Church priest (prete) Giovanni 20,20 «Pace a voi!». 20 Detto questo, mostrò loro le mani e il costato. E i discepoli gioirono al vedere il Signore. 21 Gesù disse loro di nuovo: «Pace a voi! Come il Padre ha mandato me, anch'io mando voi». 22 Dopo aver detto questo, alitò su di loro e disse: «Ricevete lo Spirito Santo; 23 a chi rimetterete i peccati saranno rimessi e a chi non li rimetterete, resteranno non rimessi». |
| asetofsymbols@gmail.com: Oct 26 02:46PM -0700 I forgot that would be a reparation of the sin too that would be assigned from the confessor |
| "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com>: Oct 26 03:18PM -0700 > In the Vangelis, it is written that for to forgive all sins; one has > to request it to a Church priest (prete) > Giovanni 20,20 It is wrong. The Catholic system has it wrong. There is God the Father, God the Son (Jesus Christ), and God the Holy Spirit. May has no divinity, and there is no line going from one of us to any man, and then to God. It goes from each of us personally, directly to God. When Jesus died, the veil in the Temple was rent in two: https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=1+Timothy+2%3A5-7&version=KJV 5 For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus; 6 Who gave himself a ransom for all, to be testified in due time. The veil existed to separate man from God. Only the High Priest could go in behind the veil, and only once a year, and only with blood and water and incense and much ceremony. He even had to wear a special outfit with bells and pomegranates on it which made noise, and be tied around the waist with a stout rope, and if that priest went before God in that special room behind the veil unworthily, God would strike him dead. The bells would stop making noise, and the other priests used the rope to drag him out because if any of the priests entered in to that special room (called the Holy of Holies) they too would be struck down in an instant. That was the Law, but Jesus nailed the Law to the cross by His body and death given to man, given to God as a one-time offering for sin. Jesus tore the veil in two by His death, so that now we no longer go through that ceremony, no longer go through the priests or even the high priest, but now we go directly to the Father, and not through any other man, but only through Jesus Christ: https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Matthew+27%3A51&version=KJV 51 And, behold, the veil of the temple was rent in twain from the top to the bottom; and the earth did quake, and the rocks rent; We have a direct advocate: https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=1+John+2%3A1&version=KJV 1 My little children, these things write I unto you, that ye sin not. And if any man sin, we have an advocate with the Father, Jesus Christ the righteous: And we can go directly to the Father ourselves through Christ: https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=John+16%3A23&version=KJV 23 And in that day ye shall ask me nothing. Verily, verily, I say unto you, Whatsoever ye shall ask the Father in my name, he will give it you. ----- The truth speaks fundamentally. Pursue it and it will prove itself out to you. Thank you, Rick C. Hodgin |
| "Chris M. Thomasson" <invalid_chris_thomasson@invalid.invalid>: Oct 26 04:00PM -0700 On 10/26/2017 3:18 PM, Rick C. Hodgin wrote: >> to request it to a Church priest (prete) >> Giovanni 20,20 > It is wrong. The Catholic system has it wrong. [...] Have to agree here. If I want to converse with God, I do not need a gosh darn priest to aid my efforts wrt accomplishing the feat. Imvho, thinking to yourself is more than sufficient. |
| "Chris M. Thomasson" <invalid_chris_thomasson@invalid.invalid>: Oct 26 04:07PM -0700 On 10/23/2017 1:12 AM, David Brown wrote: > programming (in Basic) until I was about 8 or 9. But at 6 I had used a > computer (a Commodore Pet) and had decided to be a programmer or a > computer hardware designer when I grew up. What made you ultimately decide to be a programmer David? For me it was a question: "How the hell are these damn games created!?!". After a couple of months, I started unknowingly learning some assembly, without actually understanding it wrt playing around with PEEK and POKE in BASIC. Very dangerous! ;^) |
| Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net>: Oct 26 04:49PM -0400 On 10/25/2017 8:32 AM, Scott Lurndal wrote: >> Right where they are supposed to be. The Right doesn't just ignore laws >> it doesn't like. > Iran-Contra? Illegal aliens. Giving 4 billion dollars to an enemy government. Storing classified information on insecure servers... And the list goes on. -- ================== Remove the "x" from my email address Jerry Stuckle jstucklex@attglobal.net ================== |
| "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com>: Oct 26 06:01AM -0700 On Wednesday, October 25, 2017 at 8:53:54 AM UTC-4, Rick C. Hodgin wrote: > This world is only for a time. There is real hope for all mankind: > https://billygraham.org/audio/the-cure-for-discouragement/ If you are ever discouraged, ever beat down, ever in need of comfort and joy and peace and love in your life, there is One who can provide you with all that and more. It may seem cliché, or even silly to many people, but God is there. And not only is He there, He is longing with great longing to be a part of your life. God has created a powerful system. That system is at work in this universe, and He calls you to be a part of it. His voice can be heard aloud in every direction. But, there is an enemy who has another voice, and his voice is raised also, but in different ways. If you will press in and seek the truth in your life, you will find it is God you are seeking for because He is truth (literal truth). He cannot lie, He cannot deceive, He cannot do any wrong or false thing, and He can only and always do what's right, and He only has he absolute best plans for you ... but He lets you make choices. He's given you your own volition, the ability to choose for yourself at each crossroads which way to go. The enemy tries to get you to go his way, which is really any way other than the way God would have you go. But if you press in, and ask God to help you, and seek the truth in all things, then God will work in your life guiding you in seen and unseen ways. You won't even know how you arrive at certain places at certain times, or how you came to certain events in your life, but you'll find out later it was always God at work in your life. He causes the rain to fall on the just and the unjust, and the sun to shine likewise. But He has a plan for all of us, and we are telling Him by our choices in this world what it is we want for our lives: truth-seeking, or a contentment writhing in falseness. ----- You are valuable. You have a future. God calls out to you and has prepared for you a future that would boggle your mind. He has it ready to go right now even, and all you have to do is call upon His name and ask Him to help you overcome this world. He'll teach you about sin, about repentance, about asking forgiveness from Jesus so that your sin can be taken away, and the new life He has for you can come into existence, for His House is entirely orderly, with nothing left to chance or happenstance. God is God Almighty, and He has big plans for you in eternity. You are very much loved by God, which is why He's made salvation so easy: just ask. He could not have made salvation any easier, and still given you a choice. Make the right choice. Choose truth. Choose eternal life. Choose love, joy, peace, and hope. Choose Jesus Christ, for He is all those things and more. Thank you, Rick C. Hodgin |
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