- Hateful abusive posts by Leigh Johnston, round #2 - 17 Updates
- Using #define in the construction of an array - 4 Updates
- Compile-time constructors? - 4 Updates
| "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com>: Nov 12 01:02PM -0800 On Monday, November 12, 2018 at 3:53:55 PM UTC-5, Mr Flibble wrote: > No I didn't want to know if you found a flaw in my thinking; I wanted to > know what YOU erroneously thought was a flaw in my thinking, there is a > difference... My bad. I apologize. I used to "know" God didn't exist also. Except I wasn't 100% sure because I, being true and honest with myself, was absolutely forced to acknowledge that I could not know for sure if I knew the things I only thought I knew, but didn't yet know for certain, because I had not yet truly investigated them. It boils down to something like this: Rick: Leigh, do you know everything? Leigh: No. Rick: Leigh, do you know half of everything? Leigh: No. Rick: Okay, let's assume for a moment that you do know half of everything. Is it possible the knowledge of God is found in the other half you don't know? -- Rick C. Hodgin |
| Real Troll <Real.Troll@Trolls.com>: Nov 12 05:15PM -0400 On 12/11/2018 20:53, Mr Flibble wrote: > Jesus: "My mother was a virgin when she gave birth to me." It's common these days to have virgin birth!! It's called IVF. You don't need a man to impregnate a woman, thanks to modern science. Jesus was a con man. there was no science in those days. His mum must have been a prostitute and so he decided to call himself a product of virgin birth. In those days women were used to being prostitutes because they had to survive somehow and man were in short supply because of wars. |
| Ian Collins <ian-news@hotmail.com>: Nov 13 10:19AM +1300 On 13/11/18 09:53, Mr Flibble wrote: > No I didn't want to know if you found a flaw in my thinking; I wanted to > know what YOU erroneously thought was a flaw in my thinking, there is a > difference. You can't reason someone out of a position they didn't reason them selves into. I suggest you find a new windmill... -- Ian. |
| David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no>: Nov 12 10:20PM +0100 On 12/11/2018 18:12, Mr Flibble wrote: > And Satan invented fossils, yes? > LUCIFER The Bringer of LIGHT has a personal message just for you Rick: > "Speed of light in a vacuum, mate". Rick - I object to Leigh posting this sort of stuff when you are asking technical questions, but in this case you really asked for it. Leigh - don't you have more than one record to play here? It's fair enough that when Rick makes a religious post, rather than a technical one, that you see it as a target for ridicule. It's not helpful to anyone, and it merely increases the number of such posts in the group, but I appreciate that you get that temptation. However, at least try to vary it a little - make them slightly interesting, entertaining or amusing. |
| Mr Flibble <flibbleREMOVETHISBIT@i42.co.uk>: Nov 12 09:30PM On 12/11/2018 21:02, Rick C. Hodgin wrote: > Rick: Okay, let's assume for a moment that you do know > half of everything. Is it possible the knowledge > of God is found in the other half you don't know? I believe I have told you this several times before but it seems I have to tell you one FINAL time; hopefully it will sink in this time: I am an agnostic atheist however I know YOUR PARTICULAR GOD does not exist. /Flibble -- "You won't burn in hell. But be nice anyway." – Ricky Gervais "I see Atheists are fighting and killing each other again, over who doesn't believe in any God the most. Oh, no..wait.. that never happens." – Ricky Gervais "Suppose it's all true, and you walk up to the pearly gates, and are confronted by God," Bryne asked on his show The Meaning of Life. "What will Stephen Fry say to him, her, or it?" "I'd say, bone cancer in children? What's that about?" Fry replied. "How dare you? How dare you create a world to which there is such misery that is not our fault. It's not right, it's utterly, utterly evil." "Why should I respect a capricious, mean-minded, stupid God who creates a world that is so full of injustice and pain. That's what I would say." |
| Mr Flibble <flibbleREMOVETHISBIT@i42.co.uk>: Nov 12 09:36PM On 12/11/2018 21:20, David Brown wrote: > it merely increases the number of such posts in the group, but I > appreciate that you get that temptation. However, at least try to vary it > a little - make them slightly interesting, entertaining or amusing. Amusing? I tried that with my satirical posts but Rick cried like the wet blanket he is to GigaNews and the snowflakes at GigaNews listened to him. /Flibble -- "You won't burn in hell. But be nice anyway." – Ricky Gervais "I see Atheists are fighting and killing each other again, over who doesn't believe in any God the most. Oh, no..wait.. that never happens." – Ricky Gervais "Suppose it's all true, and you walk up to the pearly gates, and are confronted by God," Bryne asked on his show The Meaning of Life. "What will Stephen Fry say to him, her, or it?" "I'd say, bone cancer in children? What's that about?" Fry replied. "How dare you? How dare you create a world to which there is such misery that is not our fault. It's not right, it's utterly, utterly evil." "Why should I respect a capricious, mean-minded, stupid God who creates a world that is so full of injustice and pain. That's what I would say." |
| "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com>: Nov 12 01:37PM -0800 On Monday, November 12, 2018 at 4:30:55 PM UTC-5, Mr Flibble wrote: > I am an agnostic atheist however I know YOUR PARTICULAR GOD does not exist. I think you are confusing "YOUR PARTICULAR GOD" with the God of the Bible (Father, Son, Holy Spirit), and concluding that "YOUR PARTICULAR GOD" doesn't exist, meaning you are ascribing to me and my beliefs various traits which exist in your past experience with religion, and are not actually in me or in the God of the Bible, the one I teach about. It's why I ask you to read it for yourself. You will be un- able to find a flaw in scripture ... if you are looking for the truth (meaning anyone can take half a glance at the Bible and conclude it has flaws because they don't investigate the true reasons why it says what it says, but just summarily con- clude based on their own thinking that it's wrong, but what I'm talking about is a solid investigative pursuit to force the Bible to yield up its true reasons why it says what it does where it does how it does), then you will find it. I'm not lying to you, Leigh. I don't have ulterior motives. I'm honestly and truly reaching out to you so you can come to know the truth. Not by me telling you it's the truth, but by me encouraging you to investigate it so you will see for yourself that it's the truth. -- Rick C. Hodgin |
| Mr Flibble <flibbleREMOVETHISBIT@i42.co.uk>: Nov 12 09:40PM On 12/11/2018 21:37, Rick C. Hodgin wrote: > to me and my beliefs various traits which exist in your past > experience with religion, and are not actually in me or in the > God of the Bible, the one I teach about. By "YOUR PARTIUCLAR GOD" I am referring to the god of the Bible, the god the Abrahamic religions are based on; the god you believe exists but that I know doesn't exist. Other gods might exist but your does not: I know this as FACT just as I know the Universe is older than 10,000 years old as FACT. [snip tl;dr] /Flibble -- "You won't burn in hell. But be nice anyway." – Ricky Gervais "I see Atheists are fighting and killing each other again, over who doesn't believe in any God the most. Oh, no..wait.. that never happens." – Ricky Gervais "Suppose it's all true, and you walk up to the pearly gates, and are confronted by God," Bryne asked on his show The Meaning of Life. "What will Stephen Fry say to him, her, or it?" "I'd say, bone cancer in children? What's that about?" Fry replied. "How dare you? How dare you create a world to which there is such misery that is not our fault. It's not right, it's utterly, utterly evil." "Why should I respect a capricious, mean-minded, stupid God who creates a world that is so full of injustice and pain. That's what I would say." |
| "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com>: Nov 12 01:41PM -0800 On Monday, November 12, 2018 at 4:36:11 PM UTC-5, Mr Flibble wrote: > > a little - make them slightly interesting, entertaining or amusing. > Amusing? I tried that with my satirical posts but Rick cried like the wet > blanket he is to GigaNews and the snowflakes at GigaNews listened to him. They did not listen to me. I reported your posts over twenty times over about 10 months. They never once listened to me, and after the first five or six times stopped responding to me even. They just ignored me. It was only when I posted for other people to also complain about your posts that they acted. And not by me, but by them. In addition, I don't care if you disagree with me in the absolute strongest possible terms one human being can disagree with another. The issue I have is when you are mocking Jesus, or being rude and insulting to me. All I ask is for you to be civil. To say, "I disagree with all that you stand for, Rick. Completely." And to mean it from the heart. What I don't appreciate or respect is your use of such hateful words to convey your disagreement. It doesn't have to be like that. We can disagree civilly, and I can still have a great deal of respect for you (which I do), and you for me, and it can be that way for each of us to all other people. We don't have to be hateful to disagree. And I do not hate you. And I am not a bigot or any of the other traits you ascribed to me. I am teaching you about the ways of the universe per God's own guidance by His own hand, written through men by His Holy Spirit. It's not bigotry or hatred or any negative thing. It is God guiding His people. -- Rick C. Hodgin |
| Mr Flibble <flibbleREMOVETHISBIT@i42.co.uk>: Nov 12 09:48PM On 12/11/2018 21:41, Rick C. Hodgin wrote: > It's not bigotry or hatred or any negative thing. It > is God guiding His people. Jude 1:7 mate. Now fuck off you cunt. /Flibble -- "You won't burn in hell. But be nice anyway." – Ricky Gervais "I see Atheists are fighting and killing each other again, over who doesn't believe in any God the most. Oh, no..wait.. that never happens." – Ricky Gervais "Suppose it's all true, and you walk up to the pearly gates, and are confronted by God," Bryne asked on his show The Meaning of Life. "What will Stephen Fry say to him, her, or it?" "I'd say, bone cancer in children? What's that about?" Fry replied. "How dare you? How dare you create a world to which there is such misery that is not our fault. It's not right, it's utterly, utterly evil." "Why should I respect a capricious, mean-minded, stupid God who creates a world that is so full of injustice and pain. That's what I would say." |
| scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal): Nov 12 09:48PM >They did not listen to me. I reported your posts over twenty >times over about 10 months. They never once listened to me, >and after the first five or six times stopped responding to And yet you still cannot take a hint. Please stop posting your nonsense. |
| "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com>: Nov 12 02:00PM -0800 On Monday, November 12, 2018 at 4:48:59 PM UTC-5, Scott Lurndal wrote: > Please stop posting your nonsense. I do my best to never post nonsense. -- Rick C. Hodgin |
| "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com>: Nov 12 02:05PM -0800 On Monday, November 12, 2018 at 4:48:41 PM UTC-5, Mr Flibble wrote: > > It's not bigotry or hatred or any negative thing. It > > is God guiding His people. > Jude 1:7 mate... You seem to think that this judgment is coming from me. It is not. I have homosexual friends in real-life. I used to play guitar at a gay bar on Thursday nights. One of my co- workers I work with daily, the project lead on one of our apps, is a gay man. I am not against gay people, Leigh. I love them. Help them. Do not shun them from my life. But apart from that is the secondary layer that doesn't come from me, that is of God, and is His judgment. He warns of the judgment to come for such behavior, and He does so to give people time and space to repent and turn away from their sin. If a person wants eternal life, they need to repent of their sin and believe the gospel and ask Jesus to forgive them. It is the only way to be set free from the judgment and con- demnation from sin. Me teaching you that is not bigotry or hatred or anything negative. Me teaching you that is love applied, because I want you to live in eternity, and I want you to thrive in God's call and love while yet here in this world. -- Rick C. Hodgin |
| David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no>: Nov 12 11:08PM +0100 On 12/11/2018 22:36, Mr Flibble wrote: > Amusing? I tried that with my satirical posts but Rick cried like the > wet blanket he is to GigaNews and the snowflakes at GigaNews listened to > him. Your satirical posts were not amusing either (well, the first one or two might have been - but jokes rarely remain funny after the first dozen re-tellings). If you want to amuse us on this topic, here is the act to follow: <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=91DSNL1BEeY> And for those that prefer to read the script rather than watch the video: <http://www.epicure.demon.co.uk/devilswelcome.html> |
| Mr Flibble <flibbleREMOVETHISBIT@i42.co.uk>: Nov 12 10:15PM On 12/11/2018 22:05, Rick C. Hodgin wrote: > apps, is a gay man. > I am not against gay people, Leigh. I love them. Help them. > Do not shun them from my life. You are projecting your bigotry onto your faith but it is still your bigotry. Your beliefs are homophobic ergo you are homophobic; any separation between the two that you claim exists is purely artificial. [snip] /Flibble -- "You won't burn in hell. But be nice anyway." – Ricky Gervais "I see Atheists are fighting and killing each other again, over who doesn't believe in any God the most. Oh, no..wait.. that never happens." – Ricky Gervais "Suppose it's all true, and you walk up to the pearly gates, and are confronted by God," Bryne asked on his show The Meaning of Life. "What will Stephen Fry say to him, her, or it?" "I'd say, bone cancer in children? What's that about?" Fry replied. "How dare you? How dare you create a world to which there is such misery that is not our fault. It's not right, it's utterly, utterly evil." "Why should I respect a capricious, mean-minded, stupid God who creates a world that is so full of injustice and pain. That's what I would say." |
| Mr Flibble <flibbleREMOVETHISBIT@i42.co.uk>: Nov 12 10:17PM On 12/11/2018 22:08, David Brown wrote: > re-tellings). > If you want to amuse us on this topic, here is the act to follow: > <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=91DSNL1BEeY> Some of the late Dave Allen's stuff is brilliant. Obviously one cannot follow the greats. /Flibble -- "You won't burn in hell. But be nice anyway." – Ricky Gervais "I see Atheists are fighting and killing each other again, over who doesn't believe in any God the most. Oh, no..wait.. that never happens." – Ricky Gervais "Suppose it's all true, and you walk up to the pearly gates, and are confronted by God," Bryne asked on his show The Meaning of Life. "What will Stephen Fry say to him, her, or it?" "I'd say, bone cancer in children? What's that about?" Fry replied. "How dare you? How dare you create a world to which there is such misery that is not our fault. It's not right, it's utterly, utterly evil." "Why should I respect a capricious, mean-minded, stupid God who creates a world that is so full of injustice and pain. That's what I would say." |
| "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com>: Nov 12 02:18PM -0800 On Monday, November 12, 2018 at 5:09:02 PM UTC-5, David Brown wrote: > If you want to amuse us on this topic, here is the act to follow: > <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=91DSNL1BEeY> Thought you didn't do videos. Ahhhh... I see. Just videos I post. Got it. -- Rick C. Hodgin |
| Jorgen Grahn <grahn+nntp@snipabacken.se>: Nov 12 09:08PM On Sun, 2018-11-11, Jorgen Grahn wrote: > table for nybbles. Using 16 bytes twice seemed much less of a waste > than using 256 bytes once, and that way readability didn't become an > issue. I wrote a silly benchmark, for (a) popcount using a small lookup table for nybbles, and (b) using Paul's larger lookup table for octets. galium:view/popcount% git remote -v origin git://snipabacken.se/popcount (fetch) origin git://snipabacken.se/popcount (push) galium:view/popcount% make && time ./a ; time ./b g++ -W -Wall -pedantic -std=c++11 -g -O3 -c -o a.o a.cc g++ -W -Wall -pedantic -std=c++11 -g -O3 -o a a.o g++ -W -Wall -pedantic -std=c++11 -g -O3 -c -o b.o b.cc g++ -W -Wall -pedantic -std=c++11 -g -O3 -o b b.o 1962026240 ./a 13.49s user 0.00s system 99% cpu 13.502 total 1962026240 ./b 104.91s user 0.00s system 99% cpu 1:44.99 total I expected (b) to be about as fast as (a) -- thus proving my theory that you don't gain anything by keeping large and hard-to-read tables -- but here it was an order of magnitude /slower/, even though noone is fighting it for the cache. Making the (b) table larger by keeping unsigned short instead of unsigned char made it an additional 70% slower. Note that I'm only interested in the "large lookup tables are bad" idea I proposed earlier, not in fast popcounts with compiler extensions. And to be honest, I'm not interested enough to figure out why the wrong implementation is the slowest. Feel free to clone and play with it. /Jorgen -- // Jorgen Grahn <grahn@ Oo o. . . \X/ snipabacken.se> O o . |
| scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal): Nov 12 09:41PM > ./a 13.49s user 0.00s system 99% cpu 13.502 total > 1962026240 > ./b 104.91s user 0.00s system 99% cpu 1:44.99 total (a) inlined the everthing into main, including the constexpr vector initialization. (b) didn't inline the popcount (which generated real ugly object code using the legacy string instructions with REP prefix) function so you have 1e9 invocations of the popcount function to execute. (b) likely slower because of the local 'constexpr' in 'octet' which is rebuilt on every invocation of popcount. Make it static instead and you should get comparable performance. your version: $ time ./a 1962026240 real 0m4.22s user 0m4.23s sys 0m0.00s $ time ./b 1962026240 real 0m54.10s user 0m54.12s sys 0m0.00s with static in b.cc: $ time ./b 1962026240 real 0m1.33s user 0m1.33s sys 0m0.01s about 4x faster than (a). |
| Melzzzzz <Melzzzzz@zzzzz.com>: Nov 12 10:09PM > that you don't gain anything by keeping large and hard-to-read tables > -- but here it was an order of magnitude /slower/, even though noone is > fighting it for the cache. Try it with clang. -- press any key to continue or any other to quit... |
| Jorgen Grahn <grahn+nntp@snipabacken.se>: Nov 12 10:15PM On Mon, 2018-11-12, Scott Lurndal wrote: > (b) likely slower because of the local 'constexpr' in 'octet' which is > rebuilt on every invocation of popcount. Make it static instead and > you should get comparable performance. Oh. I didn't expect the compiler (g++ 6.3 with -O3) to miss such obvious opportunities for optimization -- I wonder why it did? I saw an octet(unsigned) symbol in the object code of (b), but didn't investigate. > user 0m1.33s > sys 0m0.01s > about 4x faster than (a). Hm, I would have expected 2x, or less of a difference. /Jorgen -- // Jorgen Grahn <grahn@ Oo o. . . \X/ snipabacken.se> O o . |
| David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no>: Nov 12 10:15PM +0100 On 12/11/2018 21:43, Rick C. Hodgin wrote: > If there were no variables unknown at compile-time regarding how the > object would instantiate, that would seem to be a path to a great > potential saving in time if you had a lot of objects to instantiate. Construction can be as simple or complicated as you want. If the construction is no more than setting fixed known values into the data members, then the compiler can do it by individual stores or a general memcpy - whatever it likes. |
| "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com>: Nov 12 01:20PM -0800 On Monday, November 12, 2018 at 4:15:10 PM UTC-5, David Brown wrote: > construction is no more than setting fixed known values into the data > members, then the compiler can do it by individual stores or a general > memcpy - whatever it likes. Is this done in practice? Is there something in the standard which allows for it to do this, without actually calling the constructor function at runtime? -- Rick C. Hodgin |
| scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal): Nov 12 09:42PM >Is this done in practice? Is there something in the standard >which allows for it to do this, without actually calling the >constructor function at runtime? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/As-if_rule |
| "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com>: Nov 12 01:59PM -0800 On Monday, November 12, 2018 at 4:43:02 PM UTC-5, Scott Lurndal wrote: > >which allows for it to do this, without actually calling the > >constructor function at runtime? > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/As-if_rule Thank you, Scott. -- Rick C. Hodgin |
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