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| "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com>: Jan 05 08:24AM -0500 On 1/5/21 3:16 AM, Juha Nieminen wrote: > Go away, hypocrite. You don't even follow yourself your own scripture. You make this claim often. In what way am I a hypocrite, Juha? -- Rick C. Hodgin |
| Anton Shepelev <anton.txt@gmail.com>: Jan 05 08:41PM +0300 Rick C. Hodgin: > In what way am I a hypocrite, Juha? Perhaps in the way that you continue annoying people with your unsolicited, off-topic messages, which may be thought as a form of aggression, as any misconduct stubbornly continued in spite of requests to cease and desist. Had you done it off-line, people would have given you a beating or called the police. -- () ascii ribbon campaign -- against html e-mail /\ http://preview.tinyurl.com/qcy6mjc [archived] |
| "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com>: Jan 05 12:48PM -0500 On 1/5/21 12:41 PM, Anton Shepelev wrote: > stubbornly continued in spite of requests to cease > and desist. Had you done it off-line, people would > have given you a beating or called the police. These are public forums. It's the equivalent of a person standing on the street corner speaking. You're free to pass on by. You're not free to not encounter such people in public spaces. If a person were to send you private email, that's an issue where the police could get involved because that would be like that person following you around personally and individually. The messages I post are not directed at individuals, except in response to them engaging me. -- Rick C. Hodgin |
| Bart <bc@freeuk.com>: Jan 05 07:32PM On 05/01/2021 17:48, Rick C. Hodgin wrote: >> have given you a beating or called the police. > These are public forums. It's the equivalent of a person standing on > the street corner speaking. No it isn't. It's the equivalent of a programming user group meeting in a public hall, where everyone is welcome to come and /discuss coding/ in some language or other, but which keeps getting interrupted by some religious nutter spouting his beliefs. There are public places to do your evangelising, but this isn't it. It just pisses everyone off. For example, you can try speaking on a street corner... |
| "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com>: Jan 05 02:45PM -0500 On 1/5/21 2:32 PM, Bart wrote: > a public hall, where everyone is welcome to come and /discuss coding/ in > some language or other, but which keeps getting interrupted by some > religious nutter spouting his beliefs. Not a public hall. It's an outdoor meeting place. Anyone can step into this group and post. It could be taken over by spammers, for example, who want to talk about painting. As long as they ignored the calls of the regulars to stop talking about painting, and just kept talking about it, it would be taken over. If these groups were moderated, then it would be like being in a public hall because the owner of the university or facility or whatever could stop in and say, "Leave" and would have standing with the police to have their request enforced. > There are public places to do your evangelising, but this isn't it. It > just pisses everyone off. > For example, you can try speaking on a street corner... What makes you think I don't, Bart? I've mentioned a dozen times I talk about Jesus wherever I am. I wear a hat that says "Jesus Inside" like the Intel logo. I make choice in my life, sir. ----- To be clear: Christians walk a fine line. We're commanded by God to teach people about sin, their need of salvation, about Jesus, and to also be in the world. People priority on today, what their eyes see and their belly wants. They don't consider eternity. But eternity is infinity:1 more important than the here and now because it goes on forever. Everyone, literally every last person, who has shunned me in these groups, and who doesn't come to faith in Jesus Christ, is going to lash out at me on the day of judgment yelling at me, demanding to know why I didn't try harder to save their soul. It's that fine line Christians walk. But we remember also, the message isn't for those who won't be saved. It's for those who will. And believe it or not, there are people who communicate with me that they are moved by these posts. It is making a difference in people's lives. -- Rick C. Hodgin |
| Anton Shepelev <anton.txt@gmail.com>: Jan 06 12:09AM +0300 Rick C. Hodgin: > Not a public hall. It's an outdoor meeting place. Anyone > can step into this group and post. Yes, anyone can do it, but he may not if the post is off- topic: https://benpfaff.org/writings/clc/off-topic.html Anyone can throw stones at windows, run away from restaurants without paying, steal from supermarkets, or whatever nasty think you imagine. There is only one difference that I can see -- a high possibility of real punishment. But we all know that it is only evil people that abstain from doing wrong for fear of punishment. Normal people abstain from it because... it is wrong. In which category do you belong? > or facility or whatever could stop in and say, "Leave" and > would have standing with the police to have their request > enforced. Do you mean you will not behave unless forced to? What kind of thug are you? -- () ascii ribbon campaign -- against html e-mail /\ http://preview.tinyurl.com/qcy6mjc [archived] |
| Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com>: Jan 05 01:18PM -0800 > Rick C. Hodgin: [snip] > Do you mean you will not behave unless forced to? What kind > of thug are you? Rick has made it abundantly clear, repeatedly over several years, that he will continue to spam. Please do not waste everyone else's time arguing with him in public. If you want to complain to him, he posts with a valid email address. If you want to complain *about* him, please don't do it here. Those who bypass my filters by replying to his spam risk having their own posts filtered as well. -- Keith Thompson (The_Other_Keith) Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com Working, but not speaking, for Philips Healthcare void Void(void) { Void(); } /* The recursive call of the void */ |
| "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com>: Jan 04 08:19AM -0500 On 1/4/21 2:23 AM, Juha Nieminen wrote: > work as a magical incantation that will somehow make your god act upon > people, like you probably believe. They only make people angry and disgusted > towards you, because you are nothing but a spammer and a hypocrite. God word works two ways for people: 1) Toward salvation for those being saved 2) As a witness against those who are not being saved The flesh is at war with the things of God. It is only in the spirit, in the new birth, in the new life, that the things of God can be seen and received, which is why it takes a supernatural act of God to draw those who will believe to salvation. No man gets there alone. God examines the heart and knows if a person will seek the truth and believe, and for all who will He steps in to their life and pours out spiritually upon them, which is that very act which makes it possible for a raging sinner yesterday, to become a believer in Jesus Christ today. A new man is born in salvation. The old passes away. The new is forevermore. -- Rick C. Hodgin |
| Chris Vine <chris@cvine--nospam--.freeserve.co.uk>: Jan 04 09:02PM On Sun, 3 Jan 2021 17:14:35 -0800 "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> wrote: [crap snipped] > Did you try to talk to 200 people in the store? Or, were you just > looking at their eyes? Chris, I don't know why you keep doing this, but please shut the fuck up. This guy doesn't need useful idiots. |
| spudisnotyourbud@grumpysods.com: Jan 02 02:53PM On Sat, 2 Jan 2021 13:23:57 +0100 >> indexing. >I can't answer for exactly what Ian meant, but compilers regularly track >ranges that variables can have. And with an array of guaranteed known Thats fine with simply for() loops where the loop variable(s) are unaffacted by external influences because the compiler can calculate all possible value. And in fact thats how we can have constexpr. But when those variables are influenced from outside it quickly becomes an impossible task. >size, they can warn you in at least some cases if you are going outside Warnings along the lines of something may happen are generally fairly useless IME. |
| Juha Nieminen <nospam@thanks.invalid>: Jan 03 09:32AM > My point was that std::array is no less efficient that a plain array > when used as one. Also, like with other standard library containers, you'll get debug boundary checking with gcc (and probably clang) if you compile with the option -D_GLIBCXX_DEBUG, which you won't get for inbuilt arrays. (Ok, I didn't actually check that -D_GLIBCXX_DEBUG also affects std::array, but I would be very surprised if it didn't.) (And yes, I'm aware of -fsanitize=address which ought to detect out-of-bounds accesses of inbuilt arrays as well, but AFAIK it's not as reliable, because with standard library containers and -D_GLIBCXX_DEBUG the checks are added to the indexing code itself, checking against the size of the array.) |
| Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk>: Jan 04 01:10PM >> it and want others to have same pain. IOW sadism of pathetic asshole. > If you need a two-dimensional array, is it guaranteed that there will be no > padding between the sub-arrays? The elements (in this case the sub-arrays) are guaranteed to be stored contiguously in that &a[n] = &a[0] + n for all valid n. Therefore there can't be any padding between the elements added simply because the sub-arrays are in a containing array, but I can't find any guarantee that sizeof (std::array<T, N>) == N * sizeof (std::array<T, N>::value_type) I.e. there may be padding at the end of a std::array (included in its size) and therefore padding in some sense "between" the sub-arrays in a std::array<std::array<T, N>, M>. -- Ben. |
| Vir Campestris <vir.campestris@invalid.invalid>: Jan 05 09:55PM On 05/01/2021 02:49, olcott wrote: > I don't have to solve the halting problem to refute the conventional > proofs. My system already detects some cases of infinte loops. We've got infinite loops in our production code. There are threads whose job is to monitor the status of something for the life of the system. Andy |
| gamo <gamo@telecable.es>: Jan 03 10:42PM +0100 El 3/1/21 a las 21:17, gamo escribió: > *if* an arbitrary precision and/or repeated solution counter > reach a thresold??? > Thank you. Best. s/te/the/; s/tresold/treshold/; Sorry! -- http://gamo.sdf-eu.org/ "What happens in EuroVegas it remains in EuroVegas" |
| "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com>: Jan 03 12:31PM -0800 On 1/3/2021 9:20 AM, Rosario19 wrote: >> even holding full power and authority over death, Hell, and the grave. >> Thanks to Jesus: "Oh death, where is thy sting?" > Marry Christmas, and Happy New Year to all Likewise! :^) |
| ijw wij <wyniijj@gmail.com>: Jan 05 05:45AM -0800 > Yes, in release builds these are disabled, both for speed and for > avoiding spurious false alarms (when you write thousands of asserts, > some of those are bound to be buggy (i.e. over-cautious)). Funny! |
| "Öö Tiib" <ootiib@hot.ee>: Jan 05 02:47PM -0800 On Tuesday, 5 January 2021 at 15:45:54 UTC+2, ijw wij wrote: > > avoiding spurious false alarms (when you write thousands of asserts, > > some of those are bound to be buggy (i.e. over-cautious)). > Funny! No, it is just human nature. We are all ignorant about some aspect, misremembering, absent minded, tired and fallible. We just learn, memorize, recall, concentrate our focus and correct if we notice as we go. When dealing with code base of hundreds thousands of lines it is important to let every line you altered to be validated by other people as it will catch most issues earlier. |
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