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| Vlad from Moscow <vlad.moscow@mail.ru>: Apr 06 04:44PM -0700 On Thursday, April 7, 2016 at 2:02:32 AM UTC+3, Mr Flibble wrote: > homework for them. Doing people's homework for them is not good because > that person doesn't learn anything and it is also basically cheating. > /Flibble Take into account that when a correct answer is down-voted this confuses readers of the question. It is not just an answer. It is a solution of a task. Users usually seach internet for solutions. And if they find this thread and see that the answer is down-voted then they can think that the answer is incorrect. It is very actual for beginners. The answers are a knowledge base. |
| "Alf P. Steinbach" <alf.p.steinbach+usenet@gmail.com>: Apr 07 01:48AM +0200 On 07.04.2016 00:57, Vlad from Moscow wrote: > The fascist policy of the Stanckoverflow continues.:) Calling names is ungood. Let out some choice swear words and phrases, get the steam out, yes -- but only to yourself! > Now I am banned after my correct answer to this question > http://stackoverflow.com/questions/36435991/3-recursion-problems-beginner-c/36436517#36436517 Stating that <<P.S. Do not take into account the down-votings. They are down-votings of low-qualified programnmers that are present here only to down-vote answers of others.:) Usually they have a low reputation.:) The code presented in the answer is correct. The answer is down-voted in revenge.>> is just more name calling. On the other hand I have only once, a single time, had success with asking for an explanation of downvotes. Still I do that, asking, as a matter of principle. Because I believe in communication, and I want the people who think that one can vote about truth or facts or logic, to engage in communication, to learn about them (who are they?) and possibly to influence them -- I want that so bad that I persist. Now, in my experience two kinds of postings mainly gather downvotes on SO: * Something that is obviously incorrect. * Something that's posted by someone currently at odds with a group of others. The first seems to not be the case here, although I haven't looked closely at your code. Therefore I gather the second happened, which I think could be natural given (what I perceive to be) your tendency to call names. The theory that doing someone's homework attracts downvotes, well, IME it's not that way, but it's not unthinkable. > down-votings because the answer is correct and the down-votings only > confuse other readers of the question and the answer I was banned.:) > SO searches for any reason to ban me.:) As an example, I recently (yesterday) had [1]a question+answer heavily downvoted. It's not apparent now, but it was posted in response to a question that was prematurely closed, where the guy begged for an answer. Since I was writing an answer when that question was closed, and saw that work wasted, I got irritable and scolded the close voters, who, possibly attracting some support, proceeded to downvote the hell out of my response to the closing, namely the self-answered question. I was quite happy about the whole thing, however, because for the first time ever the mods were doing their job, removing two comments that contained false alleged quotes, when I flagged them. Never seen that before. :) Also, the original poster got his sorely needed answer. And I think that last is how you should think: that the transaction between you and whoever you're helping, is not affected by gangs of anonymous downvoters. SO rep is nothing. For a long time I posted answers only in comments, to avoid the silly rep-increase (and to be able to add my customary "cheers & hth.,", not accepted in answers). ;-) Cheers & hth., - Alf Notes: [1] http://stackoverflow.com/questions/36435657/what-c-library-features-have-higher-level-c-alternatives-like-c-printf-and-c/36435658#36435658 |
| Vlad from Moscow <vlad.moscow@mail.ru>: Apr 06 05:16PM -0700 On Thursday, April 7, 2016 at 2:48:41 AM UTC+3, Alf P. Steinbach wrote: > Notes: > [1] > http://stackoverflow.com/questions/36435657/what-c-library-features-have-higher-level-c-alternatives-like-c-printf-and-c/36435658#36435658 There is searched any reason at SO to down-vote my answers.:) Ay the same day before I was banned my other correct answer was also down-voted. Here it is. http://stackoverflow.com/questions/36458904/one-pair-of-its-elements-sum-to-n-with-c-program/36459438#36459438 I could agree that the answer can be appended with some explanations. And I appreciate such advices in comments to my answers. But the purpose of the comment under my answer was only one to find a reason for down-voting the answer. If you look his profile you will see that he has only 339 points of the reputation. That is he himself does not answer questions. But he is very glad to find a reason fpr down-voting my answer.:) As for me then I have badge "Legendary".:) Moreover there is used such a trick when my correct answer at first is down-voted. When the person who down-voted my answer copies my answer into his own answer. Then his associates down-vote my answer and up-vote the copy of my answer.:) It is a policy of SO relative me, the policy that is conducted by moderators.:) |
| Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net>: Apr 06 08:29PM -0400 On 4/6/2016 7:28 PM, Vlad from Moscow wrote: > You may down-vote my answer if it is incoorect if it gives an invalid solution and so on. > But you may not down-vote correct answers in revenge if you personally do not like that I aswered the question. > The result is that I who gave a correct answer was down-voted after my correct answer was down voted in revenge.:) Anyone can downvote an answer for any reason - including answering someone's homework for them. And you can be banned for the same thing. You were not banned because you are from Russia. There are other Russians active on SO. -- ================== Remove the "x" from my email address Jerry Stuckle jstucklex@attglobal.net ================== |
| Vlad from Moscow <vlad.moscow@mail.ru>: Apr 06 06:42PM -0700 On Thursday, April 7, 2016 at 3:29:52 AM UTC+3, Jerry Stuckle wrote: > Jerry Stuckle > jstucklex@attglobal.net > ================== You are mistaken about other Russians. I am the only who is all the time except rare periods among the top 20 answerers in C and C++. Of course there are from Russian. But 1) it is not clear from their nicks or profiles that they are from Russia. 2) they are not so visible as me. And even others from other contries wrote in comments that in their opinion the reason is that I am from Russia. Moreover in comments to me there were written obscene expressions. Do you think who wrote them were banned? You are mistaken.:) Their comments simply were removed. It is me who is banned by any reason even if I will write a correct answer. My correct answer is also a reason to ban me.:) The answer I showed is the reason for banning me. All I did is that I wrote a note that nobody should take into account the downvotings because the answer is correct. Otherwise this will confuse readers of the answer. And if there is something is invalid in my answer then a quakified programmer usually will write a comment pointing out what is wrong. It is usually persons with the low reputation who down-vote correct answers without explaining the reason.:) |
| Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net>: Apr 06 09:56PM -0400 On 4/6/2016 9:42 PM, Vlad from Moscow wrote: > You are mistaken.:) > Their comments simply were removed. It is me who is banned by any reason even if I will write a correct answer. My correct answer is also a reason to ban me.:) > The answer I showed is the reason for banning me. All I did is that I wrote a note that nobody should take into account the downvotings because the answer is correct. Otherwise this will confuse readers of the answer. And if there is something is invalid in my answer then a quakified programmer usually will write a comment pointing out what is wrong. It is usually persons with the low reputation who down-vote correct answers without explaining the reason.:) There are other Russians on SO. Maybe not in the C/C++ groups, but there are other Russians. However, they don't have the attitude you do. SO is a private site. They can allow or refuse access to any one at any time, for any reason or no reason at all. However, I can see why they banned you, and it has nothing to do with your answer being correct. And BTW - your answer was NOT correct. -- ================== Remove the "x" from my email address Jerry Stuckle jstucklex@attglobal.net ================== |
| Vlad from Moscow <vlad.moscow@mail.ru>: Apr 06 06:56PM -0700 On Thursday, April 7, 2016 at 3:29:52 AM UTC+3, Jerry Stuckle wrote: > Jerry Stuckle > jstucklex@attglobal.net > ================== Can you point out at least one Russian from the Russia in this list of the top 20 answerers?:) http://stackoverflow.com/tags/c/topusers |
| Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net>: Apr 06 10:03PM -0400 On 4/6/2016 9:56 PM, Vlad from Moscow wrote: >> Russians active on SO. > Can you point out at least one Russian from the Russia in this list of the top 20 answerers?:) > http://stackoverflow.com/tags/c/topusers No, but that means absolutely nothing. -- ================== Remove the "x" from my email address Jerry Stuckle jstucklex@attglobal.net ================== |
| Vlad from Moscow <vlad.moscow@mail.ru>: Apr 06 07:09PM -0700 On Thursday, April 7, 2016 at 4:56:23 AM UTC+3, Jerry Stuckle wrote: > Jerry Stuckle > jstucklex@attglobal.net > ================== And what is not correct in the answer?:) |
| Vlad from Moscow <vlad.moscow@mail.ru>: Apr 06 07:13PM -0700 On Thursday, April 7, 2016 at 5:03:14 AM UTC+3, Jerry Stuckle wrote: > Jerry Stuckle > jstucklex@attglobal.net > ================== I see you have no arguments.:) |
| Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net>: Apr 06 10:22PM -0400 On 4/6/2016 10:09 PM, Vlad from Moscow wrote: >> banned you, and it has nothing to do with your answer being correct. >> And BTW - your answer was NOT correct. > And what is not correct in the answer?:) If you don't know and kept insisting it was correct, that would be a good reason for banning. Maybe if you figure it out and apologize to SO you can get back in. And learn to trim sigs. That why there is a sig separator. -- ================== Remove the "x" from my email address Jerry Stuckle jstucklex@attglobal.net ================== |
| Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net>: Apr 06 10:23PM -0400 On 4/6/2016 10:13 PM, Vlad from Moscow wrote: >> No, but that means absolutely nothing. > I see you have no arguments.:) Just that your question is meaningless. There are hundreds of other countries in the world without posters in the top 20. That doesn't mean people from those countries don't post. And you don't know how to trim sigs. -- ================== Remove the "x" from my email address Jerry Stuckle jstucklex@attglobal.net ================== |
| legalize+jeeves@mail.xmission.com (Richard): Apr 07 02:24AM [Please do not mail me a copy of your followup] Vlad from Moscow <vlad.moscow@mail.ru> spake the secret code >[more crybaby whining] It still has nothing to do with C++. Take it elsewhere. Start a blog and scream at the sky for all I care, just don't do it here. -- "The Direct3D Graphics Pipeline" free book <http://tinyurl.com/d3d-pipeline> The Computer Graphics Museum <http://computergraphicsmuseum.org> The Terminals Wiki <http://terminals.classiccmp.org> Legalize Adulthood! (my blog) <http://legalizeadulthood.wordpress.com> |
| Vlad from Moscow <vlad.moscow@mail.ru>: Apr 06 07:43PM -0700 On Thursday, April 7, 2016 at 5:22:33 AM UTC+3, Jerry Stuckle wrote: > Jerry Stuckle > jstucklex@attglobal.net > ================== "If you don't know and kept insisting it was correct, that would be a good reason for banning." = Bravo! It is a good argument. One more could you explain me whay is incorrect in the answer?:) Or you will again say that If I don't know what is incorrect then it is a good reason for banning.:) |
| Vlad from Moscow <vlad.moscow@mail.ru>: Apr 06 07:57PM -0700 On Thursday, April 7, 2016 at 5:23:36 AM UTC+3, Jerry Stuckle wrote: > Jerry Stuckle > jstucklex@attglobal.net > ================== What you wrote here does not make any sense. I did not say that there is no people from other contries including Russian. The fact that you are trying to pervent the sense of the words said by me confirms that I am right. You have nothing to say. I said that my activity, my presence among the top 20 in C and C++ is very annoing factor at SO.:) And the only reason is that I am from Russia. It is not my words. Others wrote about this in their comments. Even programmers from US wondered why my answers were down-voted. I already said you that I got even obscene expressions in comments. But it is me who was banned not whose who wrote the obscene expressions.:) Of course SO is a private website. Nevertheless it does not prevent to conclude what policy is conducted at SO.:) |
| Paavo Helde <myfirstname@osa.pri.ee>: Apr 07 09:21AM +0300 On 7.04.2016 2:15, Vlad from Moscow wrote: >> <57396b09-b5a1-42de-a5ba-525b7d687370@googlegroups.com> thusly: >>> The fascist policy of the Stanckoverflow continues.:) > I am banned only because I am from Russia. Even if that was true, "fascist" would not be the right term, but rather "discriminative" or "prejudicial". Please stop mixing up the terms. |
| Wouter van Ooijen <wouter@voti.nl>: Apr 07 08:22AM +0200 Op 07-Apr-16 om 1:48 AM schreef Alf P. Steinbach: > think could be natural given (what I perceive to be) your tendency to > call names. The theory that doing someone's homework attracts downvotes, > well, IME it's not that way, but it's not unthinkable. I am active on SE-Electrical Engineering (not on SO). On SE-EE a homework question is closed very quickly, and any complete (as opposed to 'small hint') answers to such a question are surely downvoted. That aside, IMO a downvote without a comment (or upvote of an existing comment) is rude. Don't leave the author in doubt as to why his question or answer is downvoted. Wouter van Ooijen |
| Paavo Helde <myfirstname@osa.pri.ee>: Apr 07 09:28AM +0300 On 7.04.2016 4:56, Vlad from Moscow wrote: > Can you point out at least one Russian from the Russia in this list of the top 20 answerers?:) > http://stackoverflow.com/tags/c/topusers Are you aware that there are more than 20 countries in the world? It would be impossible to have somebody from everyone's pet country in top 20. If there was a reserved seat for a Russian in each top 20 over the world, it would be discriminating against other countries. |
| Rosario19 <Ros@invalid.invalid>: Apr 07 09:44AM +0200 On Thu, 07 Apr 2016 09:21:56 +0300, Paavo Helde wrote: >> I am banned only because I am from Russia. >Even if that was true, "fascist" would not be the right term, but rather >"discriminative" or "prejudicial". Please stop mixing up the terms. is ok fascist for me |
| Rosario19 <Ros@invalid.invalid>: Apr 07 09:51AM +0200 On Thu, 07 Apr 2016 09:44:36 +0200, Rosario19 wrote: >>Even if that was true, "fascist" would not be the right term, but rather >>"discriminative" or "prejudicial". Please stop mixing up the terms. >is ok fascist for me it seems to me they fear something or someone... |
| Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net>: Apr 07 06:08AM -0400 On 4/6/2016 10:43 PM, Vlad from Moscow wrote: > good reason for banning." = Bravo! It is a good argument. > One more could you explain me whay is incorrect in the answer?:) > Or you will again say that If I don't know what is incorrect then it is a good reason for banning.:) I know what's incorrect - as I suspect do the people who downvoted you. And insisting incorrect code is correct is a good reason for banning. I could just tell you. But you claim to be knowledgeable about such things, so you should figure it out for yourself. Otherwise you won't learn anything (similar to just giving someone their homework answer). -- ================== Remove the "x" from my email address Jerry Stuckle jstucklex@attglobal.net ================== |
| Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net>: Apr 07 06:11AM -0400 On 4/6/2016 10:57 PM, Vlad from Moscow wrote: > What you wrote here does not make any sense. I did not say that there is no people from other contries including Russian. The fact that you are trying to pervent the sense of the words said by me confirms that I am right. > You have nothing to say. > I said that my activity, my presence among the top 20 in C and C++ is very annoing factor at SO.:) And the only reason is that I am from Russia. It is not my words. Others wrote about this in their comments. Even programmers from US wondered why my answers were down-voted. The fact that you are amongst the top 20 in C and C++ is immaterial. It just means you spend more time on SO than others. > I already said you that I got even obscene expressions in comments. But it is me who was banned not whose who wrote the obscene expressions.:) Again, what other people wrote is immaterial. You don't know what goes on in private conversations between those people and S. > Of course SO is a private website. Nevertheless it does not prevent to conclude what policy is conducted at SO.:) And it doesn't prevent others from concluding why you were banned. -- ================== Remove the "x" from my email address Jerry Stuckle jstucklex@attglobal.net ================== |
| Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net>: Apr 07 06:14AM -0400 On 4/7/2016 2:22 AM, Wouter van Ooijen wrote: > comment) is rude. Don't leave the author in doubt as to why his question > or answer is downvoted. > Wouter van Ooijen Wouter, I agree downvoting without a comment is rude. But when the same person gets downvoted repeatedly for the same actions, it's obvious they don't learn, so comments don't make any difference. -- ================== Remove the "x" from my email address Jerry Stuckle jstucklex@attglobal.net ================== |
| Vlad from Moscow <vlad.moscow@mail.ru>: Apr 07 03:29AM -0700 On Thursday, April 7, 2016 at 1:08:55 PM UTC+3, Jerry Stuckle wrote: > Jerry Stuckle > jstucklex@attglobal.net > ================== It is such a bad joke?:) |
| Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net>: Apr 06 08:22PM -0400 On 4/6/2016 9:18 AM, Osmium wrote: > If you are writing for an OS, it is a duty of the OS to release the > resources you had. Otherwise the system won't work for more than a few > hours at most. No, it is the duty of the OS to a acquire resources at the program's request and release resources at the program's request. A multitasking OS also manages switching between multiple programs. While it is nice when an OS releases resources at the end of the program, that is NOT the OS's job. And many embedded OS's don't do so. -- ================== Remove the "x" from my email address Jerry Stuckle jstucklex@attglobal.net ================== |
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