Saturday, July 30, 2016

Digest for comp.lang.c++@googlegroups.com - 11 updates in 3 topics

"Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com>: Jul 29 07:26PM -0700

The Problem with Christianity:
 
Ken Ham lays out the problem with Christianity very very clearly:
 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KUdBBH7bRoY&t=14m6s
 
Best regards,
Rick C. Hodgin
Christian Gollwitzer <auriocus@gmx.de>: Jul 30 07:17AM +0200

Am 30.07.16 um 04:26 schrieb Rick C. Hodgin:
> The Problem with Christianity:
 
> Ken Ham lays out the problem with Christianity very very clearly:
 
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KUdBBH7bRoY&t=14m6s
 
I think the best description of its problems can be found here:
 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8r-e2NDSTuE
 
Christian
"J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com>: Jul 30 06:10AM -0400

In article <nnhd8m$ihi$1@dont-email.me>, auriocus@gmx.de says...
 
> I think the best description of its problems can be found here:
 
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8r-e2NDSTuE
 
> Christian
 
The biggest problem with Christianity is morons who give it a bad name
by constantly bringing it up in venues where discussion of religion is
not appropriate.
"Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com>: Jul 30 04:57AM -0700

On Saturday, July 30, 2016 at 6:11:11 AM UTC-4, J. Clarke wrote:
> The biggest problem with Christianity is morons who give it a bad name
> by constantly bringing it up in venues where discussion of religion is
> not appropriate.
 
There are no inappropriate venues, J. Clarke. Everyone who has rejected the
truth will come to this knowledge as the first thing they're aware of
happening immediately after death, because they will go to sleep, and then
be summoned by name to appear before God and give an account of their life.
 
At that point, everyone will know the truth. People will see God, see
Heaven, see eternity, and they will want it because it really is glorious.
But, because they were not forgiven by Jesus Christ, their sin debt remains,
and their name was not written down in the Lamb's Book of Life. As such,
they will be cast headlong into the burning lake of fire:
 
http://biblehub.com/kjv/revelation/20-15.htm
"And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into
the lake of fire."
 
J. Clarke, Christians speak these things to people to warn them. When a
person is not actively seeking after truth, God, the Bible, a personal
relationship with Jesus Christ, there is another spirit here on this Earth
who is more than willing to step in and guide you falsely. As such, that
spirit asserts itself in your life and you begin to take on that spirit's
thinking, beliefs, etc. But that spirit is the spirit of the anti-Christ,
and it is an enemy of God, and of you.
 
It becomes so pervasive that when someone like me speaks about the things
of the Bible, they are immediately ridiculed and cast negatively in people's
thinking. The person who does not seek after Jesus Christ sees no need or
value in doing so, because that enemy spirit has been teaching them alternate
ways which do not require those things. However, that non-requirement is
only focused here on the flesh, and not on the eternal needs of our soul and
our eternal life.
 
To be clear, it's an attack against you by that enemy who uses the limited
form of our fallen-in-sin nature here upon this Earth (our flesh only) to
leverage our reason, our thinking, our feelings against the things of God.
That enemy does this because he's an enemy.
 
What Jesus Christ did coming to this Earth was to undo the work of the enemy,
and to make it possible for us to, once again, know God, and walk with God,
even here in this fallen world.
 
I come forward, and other Christians come forward, to teach you these things,
so that you won't be deceived, so that you'll have the opportunity to hear
and know the truth.
 
If your pursue the truth, it won't be me or any other Christian who teaches
you these things, but God Himself will assert knowledge of them within your
very soul. You will hear things from me and others, and you, on your own,
by His gift to you in your inmost man, will know the truth of what I say.
 
But for those who are not seeking the truth, they will never come to know
this information as it will be forever hidden from them, only because they
would not seek or hear the truth, but were content to believe the lie, so
God gave them what they were in pursuit of after many attempts to reach
them.
 
Do not be so quick to dismiss what I'm teaching you, J. Clarke. You owe it
to yourself, your family, your friends, co-workers, neighbors, to seek out
the truth for yourself, and to prove it to yourself one way or the other.
 
My words point you to Jesus Christ and the Bible. There you will find truth
in all its Earthly glory for us to come to a saving knowledge of Jesus
Christ, and the recognition that we are here upon this Earth for but a tick
of the clock, and then eternity begins.
 
Our goals are far better suited considering eternity first, then the needs
of the things of this world second, because the things of eternity endure,
and the things of this world are temporal, which means the purpose of our
goals here upon this Earth are to come to a saving knowledge of Jesus Christ,
so that we can be part of that eternity in a state reconciled rightly with
God, rather than being still in enmity with Him.
 
It's the best offering Jesus Christ has to give you, and the best offering
I have to give you: pointing you to Him for salvation, and eternal life.
And it's free for the taking ... all you have to do is come to Him and ask
Him to forgive you, and He will:
 
http://www.libsf.org/misc/love.html
 
Best regards,
Rick C. Hodgin
"Öö Tiib" <ootiib@hot.ee>: Jul 30 07:38AM -0700

On Saturday, 30 July 2016 14:57:47 UTC+3, Rick C. Hodgin wrote:
> > by constantly bringing it up in venues where discussion of religion is
> > not appropriate.
 
> There are no inappropriate venues, J. Clarke.
 
Most people know that they are about as good as others so they listen
to opinions of others. They see that they are weak, ignorant and
fallible.
 
However there are also morons who do think they are better than others,
always knowledgeable, always correct and may do what they want to and
do not need to listen to others. They think that others must listen to
them. There are no inappropriate venues for those rude morons.
 
Other people consider them repulsive, Rick. If there is God then He
will not thank you for that imago.
"Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com>: Jul 30 08:19AM -0700

On Saturday, July 30, 2016 at 10:39:06 AM UTC-4, Öö Tiib wrote:
> them. There are no inappropriate venues for those rude morons.
 
> Other people consider them repulsive, Rick. If there is God then He
> will not thank you for that imago.
 
There is a God. He has commanded us to go forth and teach and make
disciples. This is not an "I'll be over here with a sign. If any of
you, on your own, decide that you too want to follow Jesus, then I'll
be here waiting for you" type of endeavor.
 
Christianity is active. We teach people the truth. We warn them of
sin and the consequences of sin. We do this so they too can come to
know the truth, repent of their sin, ask forgiveness, and be saved.
 
That is all.
 
Best regards,
Rick C. Hodgin
JiiPee <no@notvalid.com>: Jul 30 05:28PM +0100

On 30/07/2016 11:10, J. Clarke wrote:
> The biggest problem with Christianity is morons who give it a bad name
> by constantly bringing it up in venues where discussion of religion is
> not appropriate.
 
Even though am a christian, i kind of agree that C++ forum is not a
place to start religious arguments :)
David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no>: Jul 30 12:34AM +0200

On 29/07/16 16:41, Jerry Stuckle wrote:
> comfortable pensions.
 
> And they don't think it's dull at all. But who are they do judge - they
> only do it 40 hours a week.
 
People are willing to do /very/ dull jobs for 40 hours a week for good
salaries, a safe position, and a comfortable pension. In fact, those
are the sorts of compensations you need to provide in order to get
someone to do a job that requires skill, intelligence, education, and
responsibility - but is incredibly dull.
 
I have never had the "pleasure" of programming in COBOL, so I can't
judge if it really is dull or not. But your description here of COBOL
programmers does nothing to dispel the common view of COBOL's dullness.
Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net>: Jul 29 08:01PM -0400

On 7/29/2016 6:34 PM, David Brown wrote:
 
> I have never had the "pleasure" of programming in COBOL, so I can't
> judge if it really is dull or not. But your description here of COBOL
> programmers does nothing to dispel the common view of COBOL's dullness.
 
You seem to be an expert in /very/ dull jobs - despite your lack of
experience in COBOL.
 
Yes, the common view of those who don't know COBOL is that it's dull.
Those who have programmed in it know better. It's no more or less dull
than C or any other programming language.
 
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"J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com>: Jul 30 06:07AM -0400

In article <78d5c206-6717-48eb-8d92-dd029c52b329@googlegroups.com>,
woodbrian77@gmail.com says...
 
> How to explain the lower turnover rate for such
> a dull language like COBOL? I'm not sure which
> is worse Java or COBOL.
 
Because professionals work in the language that does what is needed, not
the language that is "exciting". COBOL may be "dull" but it runs
immense businesses.
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