Friday, July 22, 2016

Digest for comp.lang.c++@googlegroups.com - 9 updates in 3 topics

Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net>: Jul 21 09:02PM -0400

On 7/21/2016 12:50 PM, Mr Flibble wrote:
 
> Ian, it seems obvious to me that Jerry Stuckle is a fucktarded troll so
> why do you engage it?
 
> /Flibble
 
Not my problem you can't get a decent job. You'd be better off going
back to ditch digging - if you can figure out which end of the shovel to
use.
 
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Ian Collins <ian-news@hotmail.com>: Jul 20 01:54PM +1200

On 07/20/16 01:41 PM, Jerry Stuckle wrote:
> syntax, either.
 
> But even with private or protected non-static members the class can
> still be aggregate. You need to look up the definition of aggregate.
 
It's a pity you didn't:
 
ISO/IEC 14882:2011(E) 8.5.1 Aggregates [dcl.init.aggr]
 
1 An aggregate is an array or a class (Clause 9) with no user-provided
constructors (12.1), no brace-or-equal-initializers for non-static data
members (9.2), no private or protected non-static data members (Clause
11), no base classes (Clause 10), and no virtual functions (10.3).
 
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Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net>: Jul 19 09:41PM -0400

On 7/19/2016 8:16 PM, Öö Tiib wrote:
>> are not validated, creating a potentially invalid object.
 
> Aggregate classes are feature of C++. Usage of aggregate initialization
> violates no language rules.
 
The use of names of private members (which data members in general
should be, according to OO principles) would be a violation of those
principles.
 
 
> Private members of class are not hidden but just not accessible (without
> special tricks) for non-friends. When class has private or protected
> non static data members then it is not aggregate.
 
Exactly. And they would not be accessible to your initialization
syntax, either.
 
But even with private or protected non-static members the class can
still be aggregate. You need to look up the definition of aggregate.
 
For instance, the following would be an aggregate:
 
class Person {
private:
String name;
String address;
Date dob;
...
};
 
It contains (at least) two String and one Date objects.
 
And if data members are not private, you have thrown away one of the
most useful OO principles.
 
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Mr Flibble <flibbleREMOVETHISBIT@i42.co.uk>: Jul 22 03:04PM +0100

On 22/07/2016 02:02, Jerry Stuckle wrote:
 
> Not my problem you can't get a decent job. You'd be better off going
> back to ditch digging - if you can figure out which end of the shovel to
> use.
 
Not my problem all the companies you start become bankrupt owing the IRS
tax. One only has to search the Internet for your name to find all the
shit trails you leave behind over everything you touch. You are the one
who is toxic and unemployable mate.
 
/Flibble
Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net>: Jul 22 02:06PM -0400

On 7/22/2016 10:04 AM, Mr Flibble wrote:
> shit trails you leave behind over everything you touch. You are the one
> who is toxic and unemployable mate.
 
> /Flibble
 
ROFLMAO! None of the companies I've started have become bankrupt, and
none of them have ever been overdue on taxes.
 
And I have never been late on paying my employees, contractors or suppliers.
 
Sorry, stoopid. Total failure - just like you.
 
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woodbrian77@gmail.com: Jul 22 01:29PM -0700

On Friday, July 22, 2016 at 9:05:01 AM UTC-5, Mr Flibble wrote:
 
Oy vey, Leigh. Please don't swear here.
 
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red floyd <no.spam@its.invalid>: Jul 22 01:39PM -0700

> On Friday, July 22, 2016 at 9:05:01 AM UTC-5, Mr Flibble wrote:
 
> Oy vey, Leigh. Please don't swear here.
 
Will you just fuck off about that?
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Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net>: Jul 21 09:04PM -0400

On 7/21/2016 9:35 AM, Paavo Helde wrote:
 
> What would be the best way to refuse compilation when a derived class
> object is passed instead? (I am needing this to avoid logical constness
> leaking problems in a callback scenario, if anybody is curious).
 
If you need this, then you don't understand inheritance.
 
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