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| Gareth Owen <gwowen@gmail.com>: May 09 08:34PM +0100 >> Don't be so fucking sexist. > ???? > Sexist because I tell that using intrinsics is using assembly language? Don't be obtuse. |
| Chris Vine <chris@cvine--nospam--.freeserve.co.uk>: May 09 08:36PM +0100 On Tue, 9 May 2017 21:16:22 +0200 > Sexist because I tell that using intrinsics is using assembly > language? > ????? Don't snip your post (it's in the record) which was: "Sure but then... you are programming in asm dear!" It doesn't sound any better on the repeat. |
| Robert Wessel <robertwessel2@yahoo.com>: May 09 02:40PM -0500 On Tue, 9 May 2017 21:16:22 +0200, jacobnavia <jacob@jacob.remcomp.fr> wrote: >???? >Sexist because I tell that using intrinsics is using assembly language? >????? No, the use of "dear" to refer to a woman in this context. Consider, for example, the last paragraph of the US Department of the Interior's sexual harassment policy: https://www.doi.gov/pmb/eeo/Sexual-Harassment It's a belittlement of the person you're talking to. But unlike saying "(you're wrong), you idiot" (which is merely a bit rude), "(you're wrong), dear", is interpreted as "your failing is that you're a woman". I know English is not your first language, but you write it well enough that people wouldn't guess that. And my understanding is that a similar construct in French does not carry the same negative connotation. |
| Chris Vine <chris@cvine--nospam--.freeserve.co.uk>: May 09 08:53PM +0100 On Tue, 09 May 2017 14:40:40 -0500 Robert Wessel <robertwessel2@yahoo.com> wrote: [snip] > enough that people wouldn't guess that. And my understanding is that > a similar construct in French does not carry the same negative > connotation. I think you are being much, much too generous. Condescension is condescension in any language, including French. How would you translate "dear"? "Cherie" in this context is equally unacceptable. For interest's sake, what's your acceptable alternative in French? When faced with a neanderthal, best to face it and not pretend that it is normal. |
| Gareth Owen <gwowen@gmail.com>: May 09 09:03PM +0100 > For interest's sake, what's your acceptable alternative in French? > When faced with a neanderthal, best to face it and not pretend that it > is normal. Amen. |
| jacobnavia <jacob@jacob.remcomp.fr>: May 09 10:05PM +0200 Le 09/05/2017 à 21:53, Chris Vine a écrit : > When faced with a neanderthal, best to face it and not pretend that it > is normal. This is completely stupid 1) I did not even know it was a woman I was writing to. I just saw vaguely "Montero" when clicking "Reply" 2) I did not mean any "condescending" tone. I thought "dear" was just a way of being familiar In any case, if I offended someone I present here my excuses to Mrs Montero. |
| jacobnavia <jacob@jacob.remcomp.fr>: May 09 10:08PM +0200 Le 09/05/2017 à 22:03, Gareth Owen a écrit : >> When faced with a neanderthal, best to face it and not pretend that it >> is normal. > Amen. You, and Chris Vine are always bulling me since years. Insults after insults, I am used to your stuff. No one can insult me, unless I give some importance to their words. |
| Chris Vine <chris@cvine--nospam--.freeserve.co.uk>: May 09 09:15PM +0100 On Tue, 9 May 2017 22:05:17 +0200 > a way of being familiar > In any case, if I offended someone I present here my excuses to Mrs > Montero. That is not an apology. You would not use the word "dear" to a man, and if you claim that I am wrong, I do not believe you. This is transparent quibbling on your part: I have never seen you address a man as "dear" here before. If you do want to make an apology, the correct response is: "I realise I was being condescending and sexist, and I am very sorry. I will try and do better. In the meantime, please accept my sincere apology". I don't think you have that within you. |
| Robert Wessel <robertwessel2@yahoo.com>: May 09 03:21PM -0500 On Tue, 9 May 2017 20:53:52 +0100, Chris Vine >For interest's sake, what's your acceptable alternative in French? >When faced with a neanderthal, best to face it and not pretend that it >is normal. My inadequate French notwithstanding... Chéri would be odd in that sort of context (it's really only appropriate between intimates), ma chère would be a better equivalent for Jacob's usage (I'm obviously assuming good intentions here). And it appears to connote more respect than affection. Now *I* think it still sounds sexist, but a bunch of French speakers I know seem much more relaxed about it. |
| jacobnavia <jacob@jacob.remcomp.fr>: May 09 10:26PM +0200 Le 09/05/2017 à 22:21, Robert Wessel a écrit : > it appears to connote more respect than affection. > Now *I* think it still sounds sexist, but a bunch of French speakers I > know seem much more relaxed about it. It wasn't at all my intention to be sexist. Maybe condescending since it is abvious (to me at least) that when you use assembler intrinsics you are no longer programming in C++ Now, Chris Vine and Gareth Owen will seize any opportunity to insult me, that is well known since years. Let's stop this polemic. Now, we are no longer discussing asm or c++ but whether I am sexist or not. Great. |
| Chris Vine <chris@cvine--nospam--.freeserve.co.uk>: May 09 09:34PM +0100 On Tue, 09 May 2017 15:21:26 -0500 > it appears to connote more respect than affection. > Now *I* think it still sounds sexist, but a bunch of French speakers I > know seem much more relaxed about it. It is impressive that you have a number of native French speakers at your fingertips to get a view in such rapid time. My step mother-in-law and a niece and nephew of mine are French so I will have to ask them when I next see them. My French gets me about without difficulty but is not totally fluent (I don't spend quite enough time there for that). In the meantime I will keep my significant reservations about your conclusions until I do so. |
| Robert Wessel <robertwessel2@yahoo.com>: May 09 03:54PM -0500 On Tue, 9 May 2017 21:34:36 +0100, Chris Vine >> know seem much more relaxed about it. >It is impressive that you have a number of native French speakers at >your fingertips to get a view in such rapid time. I never said I polled them in response to your message. I've heard the usage over time, without indication that there are problematic connotations. And basically never in the English sense of "don't worry your pretty little head over it, dear". Could I be wrong? Especially given my limited knowledge? Sure. Which is why I qualified both my statements. |
| Ian Collins <ian-news@hotmail.com>: May 10 09:06AM +1200 On 05/ 9/17 10:25 AM, jacobnavia wrote: > This scope reduction makes the human much more flexible than any > compiler since he/she KNOWS what is he/she doing in the global context > of algorithm implementation. I agree with what you say, but I think you should to qualify it by saying that the hand rolled code will be faster on the processor (model, not family) it was written for, but might not be faster on next year's model. I have seem quite a lot (too much!) hand rolled code (both ASM and C or C++) that was a good idea at the time it was written, but a hindrance in both performance and maintainability now. -- Ian |
| woodbrian77@gmail.com: May 09 03:41PM -0700 On Tuesday, May 9, 2017 at 1:34:14 PM UTC-5, Chris Vine wrote: Please don't swear here. Brian |
| Chris Vine <chris@cvine--nospam--.freeserve.co.uk>: May 10 12:26AM +0100 On Tue, 9 May 2017 15:41:48 -0700 (PDT) > On Tuesday, May 9, 2017 at 1:34:14 PM UTC-5, Chris Vine wrote: > Please don't swear here. > Brian Brian, I thought you might post this. I was kind of waiting for it. You would do much better for your crack-pot approach to religion if you were to address yourself to the original issue. Sadly, you miss the point again. You see no problem with condescending, offensive sexism: you are entranced by the word "fucking", which I applied only after careful consideration, and in this case appropriately. Sigh. |
| Jorgen Grahn <grahn+nntp@snipabacken.se>: May 09 07:45PM >> std::shared_ptr is always safe to use in these containers. > It depends on the compiler and hardware though: > https://akrzemi1.wordpress.com/2017/05/05/the-gcc-bug-affects-you/ Based on the URL, I'd say a compiler bug can break any code, including "Hello, world". /Jorgen -- // Jorgen Grahn <grahn@ Oo o. . . \X/ snipabacken.se> O o . |
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