Thursday, June 1, 2017

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rami18 <coco@coco.com>: Jun 01 03:00PM -0400

Hello,
 
 
What is corruption of morality ?
 
This is an interesting subject..
 
It's like abstracting, you have to decompose and compose..
 
You can say for example what are the causes of corruption?
 
You can say what is the consequences of corruption ?
 
You can define efficiently morality to be able to know about corruption.
 
So if you define morality you will define it as a composition of:
 
Guidance of moral, and a priori pure moral and empirical moral.
 
And now you see that the difficulty is how to set the reference to be
able to measure corruption of morality with it.
 
What is the reference of morality ?
 
The reference must be optimization that knows how to be optimization.
 
I mean that optimization can not set itself as being performance alone.
 
And optimization can not set itself to be extreme justice that lacks
optimization, like ignoring the optimization by the "heuristic" of
"tolerance" that optimizes the economic system and the social system.
 
And optimization must be an effort to maintain stableness of the system,
that means reliability of the system, this is related to security,
and security is also related to compassion and love and respect,
because neglecting compassion , love and respect do cause
extremism and violence that hurt the system.
 
How optimization must be this effort ? because discipline and progress
are inherent to Liberty, so you have to enforce them efficiently and
wisely by the hard way, that means by laws and by the soft way
that i talked about..
 
So all in all the schema seems to be more clear and seems to indicate
to us more what is corruption of morality.
 
About the processes of Abstraction
 
The processes of abstracting like by using UML or/and IDAR
 
is not sufficient..
 
Using a methodology like IDAR we are guided by rules that ensure us of
better quality that we can call more like engineering.
 
The key point is how to choose the right and efficient rules that
guide us towards a better quality that we call engineering.
 
And here you are feeling correctly that main requirements
 
We have to enlarge our conception.
 
Because a correct abstraction do use intelligence and rationality and
logic and more science..
 
We have not to satisfy ourselves with just tools like IDAR.
 
We have to be smartness firstly and we have to be more knowledge and
more science to be able to abstract correctly.
 
This is what we call professionalism.
 
This is the back-bones of our civilization, to be more efficient,
and to be more efficient sets our morality and our perception.
 
Weakness is not desired because it is like blindness.
 
When you say Liberty.
 
You have to abstract and show what is Liberty.
 
Inferior thinking will say that Liberty is like being free.
 
Inferior thinking will say that morality is like morality, it is about
the good and the bad.
 
But that's too much abstraction that is not correct views.
 
Others will say that justice has to constrain happiness and
responsability has to constrain justice, but that's too much abstraction
that doesn't include the right factors that intervene, like the heuristic
of "tolerance" that optimizes the economic system and the social system.
 
So from here we can abstract more by showing more the essentials that
is also patience of science. Patience of science is also an optimization
that better reliability and correctness.
 
So please read my following political philosophy to understand my views:
 
 
What is being an idiot ?
 
If you don't choose an efficient definition you are an idiot.
 
Like when you say that America is nationalism, this lacks optimization,
so it is idiotic thinking, you have to define the system,
this is why i have defined America by an efficient definition that
is Liberty , like the Statue of Liberty.
 
Why have i defined the chinese system by:
 
discipline , progress and stableness ?
 
Because that's what say the chinese political representatives of the
people of China, that they want to be: discipline , progress and stableness.
 
So please read again:
 
If you define the system like China:
 
We will say that the system must be:
 
discipline , progress and stableness.
 
This is the chinese definition.
 
And this definition, because of the presence of "stableness" in the
definition, do ensure efficient morality that takes into account
the empirical moral and the guidance of moral that knows how to be
compassion and love to avoid extremism and violence and instability and
lack of reliability, so the chinese definition is efficient morality.
 
The definition of America is like the Statue of Liberty, it
defines the system by the magical word Liberty.
 
But this definition is not as clear as the chinese one, but
the above requirements of discipline , progress and stableness
are inherent the definition of Liberty , because
Liberty is a generalization, like proving by a general mathematical
proofs, so you have to be discipline , progress and stableness to
not hurt the system, and this is called Liberty, since when you hurt the
system this way you can not call it Liberty, so as you
have noticed the Statue of Liberty and Liberty is efficient morality
that know how to infer efficient morality from the guidance of moral
that is happiness that is the goal of philosophy and from empirical
moral and from a priori pure moral.
 
Discipline , progress and stableness are inherent to Liberty.
 
But Liberty is not just defined as being stableness.
 
The definition of discipline , progress and stableness is composition
that ensure effort to be stableness that takes into account progress and
discipline.
 
So as you have noticed the definition of Statue of Liberty or Liberty
is efficient morality that is smartness.
 
You have to be able to be efficient morality that knows
how to optimize, nationalism needs security, but security
is constrained by optimization, this is what have to understand
nationalism, if you are too extreme you will say that security
is not allowing jews to live with us, or not allowing arabs to live
with us, this is lack of optimization, because you have to enlarge your
view, and you have to take into account many factors, if the language
of violence prevail, you will become extremists that don't know how to
optimize and be efficient morality. This is why i don't agree
with some interpretations of what must be nationalism, so we have
to be careful and not to adhere to extreme views that lack optimization,
you have to scrutinize morality and calculate efficently morality like
a scientist, efficient morality is Liberty, and Liberty is efficient
morality, the game of today is to know how to optimize more,
not being inferior thinking that lacks optimization. This is
why you have seen me constructing my political philosophy, this
my way of sharing my knowledge and wanting you to be able to see
what i am seeing..
 
About second amendment of America..
 
I am attacking the problems of America from a rational
point of view, i mean that i am using rationality an logic
to attack the problems that faces America and this way of doing
is also more science, because a correct reasonning that uses rationality
an logic is also more science in my opinion...
 
Now if you understood my way of thinking i have said that
the second amendment and the constitution of america is extremist
and i have given you my way of thinking by saying this:
 
Is the constitution of America right or not right to allow
bearing arms ?
 
I think that it is not right because the people have two
ways of fighting a tyrannical gouvernement, first way
by ideas and democratically and second way by arms, and
i think that allowing the second way is too extremist ,
so i think the constitution of America is extremist,
so a moderate way is to allow the people to fight a tyrannical
gouvernement with ideas and democratically and to forbid the
second way. This is my moderated view and that is wisdom
in my opinion.
 
And to be more rational i have with a top-down methodology tried
to show you to wich variables the violence in America
is correlated positively, i have said in my proof before, that
it is correlated to the violence of the second amendment of America,
this variable that is a law is like a boolean variable that
is true or false, that means if we allow this variable to be
true , i mean if we allow the second amendment and the constitution
to allow bearing arms in America, and since this boolean variable is
correlated positively to violence, because the violence america is
correlated to the culture of violence in America, so if you make
this variable to true, that means you allow with a law that people
bear arms, this will create more violence , because violence
in America is correlated not only to the boolean variable of
the law of the second amendment and the constitution that allows to bear
arms in America, but it is correlated also to the culture
of violence of America, so i have said that to have more effect
on the violence in America we must modify the constitution
of America to not allow bearing arms because it is too extremist,
now as i said above and we have to deal with the culture of violence
and modify the culture of violence to lower the violence.
 
Now can we ask ourselves now why America is allowing its culture
to be more violent ? i think because America wants its people
to be warriors like type of people, because a warrior type of people
is like more strong, and strongness means like more performance to
there point of view, but this is too extremist point of view, but this
has a negative effect because of it bringing more violence, and it's
also having effects on the education system that is becoming less
efficient because of this culture of violence that demoralizes people of
America , so that a great percentage of people of America are loosing
hope and not studying a lot and not studying efficiently, and the
empiric statistics says so.
 
Being a culture of warriors
 
America has choosen to be a culture of warriors..
 
So it has choosen to allow a culture that is more violent..
 
But being a culture of more violence is also simplistic thinking..
 
Because if we interpret this kind of culture as being strongness,
and strongness to be performance, this is a simplistic thinking ,
and this is too much abstraction that lacks optimization, this is
the weakness of America, also we have the tendency to interpret
nationalism as being more isolationism , neglecting the important
tools such as Diplomacy that knows how to be efficient
morality, because of this culture of more violence, and this
is simplistic thinking, it is easy to insult and to hate and to be more
violence, but it is a kind of destructive thinking that lacks
optimization, so the essentials have to be relearned , and one of
the requirements of those essentials is being wisdom that knows
how to be efficient morality that is in accordance with Liberty,
and efficient morality must take into account the patience of
science, because patience of science is also optimization.
 
Communication, simplicity, feedback, respect
 
Those are essentials steps also, you have to know how to communicate
your your ideas and how to simplifying them correctly, and efficient
communication is also efficient abstration, so you have to know how to
decompose and how to abstract the essentials to be able to communicate
efficiently, and this better reliability and correctness, feedback is
also important, i mean like the testing phase, you have to improve your
ideas layer by layer and incrementally using the patience of science ,
because as i have said your perception takes time to be correct
perception , so you have to know how to be patience of science waiting
for your perception to be set correctly, this is in accordance with
efficient morality and in accordance with Liberty.
 
About Greatness..
 
Donald Trump wants America to be great again..
 
Neo-nazis want to be greatness too..
 
But this is not in accordance with Liberty or with Happiness.
 
Because Greatness must be constrained today by optimization..
 
So you have to be capable of being Diplomacy..
 
What do you think is Diplomacy ?
 
Do you think it is hating and hating like neo-nazis ?
 
That's an inferior thinking..
 
Diplomacy must know how to be respect to higher consumer confidence
index and to attract consumers and to be more security and reliability
and corrrectness, so you have to know how to soften your manners of
addressing others, you have to choose correct words that fulfill the
above requirements..
 
This is the weakness also of nationalism that doesn't know how to
manage correctly with efficient morality..
 
Because Liberty is a generalization, like a general mathematical proof,
and since it is a generalization , so it is constrained by the guidance
of moral and a priori pure moral and empirical moral, so you have to
know how to manage yourself and how to manage the world.
 
 
Please read also the following to know about my thoughts:
 
 
About identity
 
What is identity ?
 
This is a really a good question..
 
You can say that you are a white europeans..
 
And you can say that i am a white arab that lives in Montreal Canada..
 
But that's lacking optimization..
 
Because i am not defined by just being a white arab..
 
I am also the content of a book on computer programming..
 
I am also a content of a book on operational research..
 
I am more professionalism that knows more, because i am also a computer
programmer..
 
And i know more how to infer more efficient morality from Liberty..
 
And since Liberty is a generalization, like we generalize proofs in
science..
 
So Liberty do include efficient morality, because without efficient
morality , we can hurt ourselves and this can not be called
Liberty..
 
And Liberty is efficient morality, and efficient morality
is professionalism that knows better how to survive, it's
professionalism that is more rationality and logic and more
optimization, optimization is the back-bones of our civilization,
because it's related to better surviving that is the goal
of philosophy that is happiness, and since the goal of
philosophy is happiness and it's a guidance of morality,
this Happiness is also a generalization, so this generalization
looks like the generalization that we call Liberty, Happiness
and Liberty are magical words, in the sense that they include
the necessary requirements of an efficient morality.
 
But efficient morality can not ignore optimization that
says says for example that respect and compassion
and love higher the consumer confidence index, and the lack
of respect and compassion and compassion does cause problems
to the consumer confidence index, this is the basic rule
also to how we must be also a decent economic investment in the third
world countries , because a decent economic investment in third world
countries attracts more consumers and higher the consumer confidence index,
because we are an interconnected world today...
 
So as you have noticed this is how i am inferring my identity,
my identity is also defending the Statue of Liberty that
say that Liberty is an efficient morality, and since
i know more what is efficient morality, i am inclined
to respect more my fellow americains and my fellow
white europeans.
 
 
Yet about Liberty
 
To define Liberty is like a generalization, it is like science..
 
We can not define Liberty by being fraternity or/and being equality
 
That the magical word of Liberty.
 
USA is represented with the Statue of Liberty that symbolizes Liberty.
 
I give you an example:
 
The neo-nazism wants to define white europeans civilization too
extremelly, it's like too extreme justice of communism, but this
rami18 <coco@coco.com>: Jun 01 03:00PM -0400

Hello,
 
Sorry , i have posted in the wrong group.
 
 
 
Thank you,
Amine Moulay Ramdane
Mr Flibble <flibble@i42.co.uk>: Jun 01 06:42PM +0100

On 01/06/2017 18:02, Rick C. Hodgin wrote:
> if you learn C and some C++, you can do 90% of C++ development until
> a few years ago.
 
> Email me if interested.
 
A good alternative to Rick's tutoring on C++ would be to stick needles
in your eyes.
 
/Flibble
"Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com>: Jun 01 11:02AM -0700

On Thursday, June 1, 2017 at 1:42:36 PM UTC-4, Mr Flibble wrote:
> A good alternative to Rick's tutoring on C++ would be to stick needles
> in your eyes.
 
You're welcome to offer to teach someone your comprehensive skills,
Leigh. You have a vast amount of knowledge and experience. Others
would benefit greatly from your tutelage.
 
Would you like to tutel thu ra?
 
Thank you,
Rick C. Hodgin
Mr Flibble <flibble@i42.co.uk>: Jun 01 07:18PM +0100

On 01/06/2017 19:02, Rick C. Hodgin wrote:
 
> You're welcome to offer to teach someone your comprehensive skills,
> Leigh. You have a vast amount of knowledge and experience. Others
> would benefit greatly from your tutelage.
 
If I was to offer such a service it would be free from the encumbrances
of tedious proselytising.
 
/Flibble
"Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com>: Jun 01 11:37AM -0700

On Thursday, June 1, 2017 at 2:18:23 PM UTC-4, Mr Flibble wrote:
> > would benefit greatly from your tutelage.
 
> If I was to offer such a service it would be free from the encumbrances
> of tedious proselytising.
 
Well ... it's not like you think.
 
Have you ever read the Bible? It's not that we proselytize, but
rather we are changed from within and now live a changed life.
It's part of our basic nature, so it's not like a conscious thing
we do, it's natural, from within.
 
For us, we are still here looking like other people, but we've been
changed on the inside. It's not for show or attention we teach these
things about Christ, but they are so integrated into our existence
now that it is only second nature. And there's a natural driving
force within us to want to teach. That is a driving impetus by
the very spirit of God which dwells within us, guiding us, leading
us, teaching us, giving us strength to stand up against the railing
hate we often receive.
 
It would be like if you hired an exercise trainer to stay with you
24/7, they would always be giving you advice. "Don't eat that."
"Time to workout." "C'mon, six more reps!" You'd have this
constant bug in your ear urging you on. With us, it's internal.
God is spirit, so He's literally dwelling with us on the inside,
all the time, guiding us.
 
-----
The changed nature, Leigh. It's only possible when Jesus takes
your sin away. And when He does, you're left with the changed
nature. And you really are changed on the inside, which then
manifests in to outward things you'll see as evidence of that
change on the outside.
 
Thank you,
Rick C. Hodgin
Mr Flibble <flibble@i42.co.uk>: Jun 01 07:48PM +0100

On 01/06/2017 19:37, Rick C. Hodgin wrote:
 
>> If I was to offer such a service it would be free from the encumbrances
>> of tedious proselytising.
 
> Well ... it's not like you think.
 
[tldr; snippped]
 
Why do you think I will actually waste my time and read your
proselytising word salad spam? I can assure that I don't and never will
and I can assure you that most other users of the newsgroup also don't
and never will.
 
/Flibble
"Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com>: Jun 01 11:58AM -0700

Mr Flibble wrote:
> Why do you think I will actually waste my time and read your ...
 
Because I have hope and I care about you. These things I teach and
share with you are the truth, and it's the best I have to offer you. I want
you to thrive and shine on after you leave this world. And I know that
will only happen if your sin is forgiven.
 
Thank you,
Rick C. Hodgin
Mr Flibble <flibble@i42.co.uk>: Jun 01 06:40PM +0100

On 01/06/2017 08:27, David Brown wrote:
> you have to create your own specialised button class, and then change
> your design to use that type of button in the right places. This seems
> a significant complication and effort.
 
The widget base interface class contains the following events:
 
class i_widget : ...
{
public:
event<> visibility_changed;
event<graphics_context&> painting;
event<neogfx::mouse_event&> mouse_event;
event<neogfx::keyboard_event&> keyboard_event;
...
 
so you can have:
 
button1.mouse_event([](neogfx::mouse_event& e)
{
/* do stuff with 'e' */
});
 
So you are not forced to use inheritance if you want full event
information but the idea is still to create new events appropriate for
new widget abstractions.
 
 
> Normal events would be references, so that everything will be consistent
> if the user writes:
 
> button1.events.clicked([]...)
 
Sorry not sure about this idea or what it achieves.
 
/Flibble
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