Wednesday, March 7, 2018

Digest for comp.lang.c++@googlegroups.com - 7 updates in 2 topics

Mr Flibble <flibbleREMOVETHISBIT@i42.co.uk>: Mar 07 07:35PM

On 07/03/2018 19:29, Rick C. Hodgin wrote:
[snip]
 
> All I ask is for you to seek the truth
 
I don't need to seek the truth as I have already found it: your God
doesn't exist.
 
All *I* ask is for *you* to seek the truth.
 
/Flibble
Mr Flibble <flibbleREMOVETHISBIT@i42.co.uk>: Mar 07 07:42PM

On 07/03/2018 19:35, Mr Flibble wrote:
 
> I don't need to seek the truth as I have already found it: your God
> doesn't exist.
 
> All *I* ask is for *you* to seek the truth.
 
BTW you might think I enjoy these little back and forths but you would
be mistaken: they are fucking tedious because you are an obtuse cunt
that vomits out the same garbage repeatedly and ignores what people
actually say in response. I really wish you would just stop.
 
/Flibble
"Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com>: Mar 07 12:31PM -0800

On Wednesday, March 7, 2018 at 2:42:25 PM UTC-5, Mr Flibble wrote:
> BTW you might think I enjoy these little back and forths but you would
> be mistaken...
 
The only reason I participate in them is because I hold out hope that
you will be saved one day. Your soul is valuable, Leigh. It's why Jesus
came to the Earth born as one of us, and not merely as glorified God in
all His power and glory, to live as we live, so that He could save us
where we were. It's the greatest love story there is. I want you to be
a part of His sacrifice and redemption, so that you can be saved.
 
--
Rick C. Hodgin
Gareth Owen <gwowen@gmail.com>: Mar 07 09:27PM

>>> kind, you can't sustain a debate, so you spout yet more baseless assertions.
 
>> I don't debate. I teach.
 
> You don't listen to reason.
 
You can't reason a man out of a belief that they didn't reason
themselves into.
Mr Flibble <flibbleREMOVETHISBIT@i42.co.uk>: Mar 07 11:12PM

On 07/03/2018 20:31, Rick C. Hodgin wrote:
> all His power and glory, to live as we live, so that He could save us
> where we were. It's the greatest love story there is. I want you to be
> a part of His sacrifice and redemption, so that you can be saved.
 
Why can't you get it into your thick skull that no matter what words you
write; no matter what angle you try and come at; no matter what Bible
verses you cite; no matter how many times you rephrase your message it
will not make one iota of difference? I AM JUST AS SETTLED AND
UNMOVABLE IN MY BELIEFS AS YOU ARE IN YOURS.
 
/Flibble
 
--
"Suppose it's all true, and you walk up to the pearly gates, and are
confronted by God," Bryne asked on his show The Meaning of Life. "What
will Stephen Fry say to him, her, or it?"
"I'd say, bone cancer in children? What's that about?" Fry replied.
"How dare you? How dare you create a world to which there is such misery
that is not our fault. It's not right, it's utterly, utterly evil."
"Why should I respect a capricious, mean-minded, stupid God who creates
a world that is so full of injustice and pain. That's what I would say."
Gareth Owen <gwowen@gmail.com>: Mar 07 08:01PM

> with simple preconditions and postconditions such as reading a file
> will have dependencies such as what happens if open fails? What
> happens if read fails?
 
Sure, but totally orthogonal to my point. (You can make a case that
failure cases are covered in post-conditions "Either the file is opened
and processed successfully and data returned in return value, or a
std::runtime_error is thrown". But as I say, not relevant.)
 
namespace {
inline void inner_loop(int ct,int ct2)
{
for(auto i=0;i<ct;++i) {
for(auto j=0;j<ct2;++j) {
// inner_workings();
if(condition()) return;
}
}
}
 
void public_func1(int ct,int ct2)
{
run_loop(ct,ct2);
}
 
void public_func2(int ct,int ct2)
{
void flag = false;
for(auto i=0;i < ct; ++i) {
for(auto i=0;i < ct; ++i) {
inner_loop()
if(condition()) {
flag = true;
break;
}
}
if(flag) break;
}
}
 
public_func1() and public_func2() are structured differently. One is
longer, the other shorter, more elegant modular. I could add plenty
more anonymous function calls to public_func1() and their inlined
equivalents to public_func2(). More than enough to get me fired.
 
Never the less, their test suites are identical.
 
> Which was one of my (snipped) points!
 
With which I was explicitly agreeing.
"Öö Tiib" <ootiib@hot.ee>: Mar 07 02:54PM -0800

On Wednesday, 7 March 2018 20:06:24 UTC+2, JiiPee wrote:
> > experienced programmers rarely use so bad naming.
 
> Good point. So naming like "end_of_all_loops" would surely indicate that
> we go down, right?
 
Yes, if the label is where it claims then I see no problem. The
goto is very rare in actual code bases so the people who are allergic
to whatever usage of it probably became such during seventies or
eighties.
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