Saturday, April 14, 2018

Digest for comp.lang.c++@googlegroups.com - 9 updates in 2 topics

"Chris M. Thomasson" <invalid_chris_thomasson@invalid.invalid>: Apr 14 03:04PM -0700

On 4/14/2018 10:49 AM, Rick C. Hodgin wrote:
> To verify message authenticity and author click this link:
> http://www.libsf.org/Jesus_loves_you_will_forgive_your_sin/99999999.html
> ===== END MESSAGE #99999999 ============== Remember Revelation 20:14-15 ==
 
Using MAC with a good hash should work fine.
 
Heck, why not encrypt the whole message so we cannot read them? Since
you use MAC, well why not HMAC? Why not an abstraction over HMAC like my
cipher:
 
http://funwithfractals.atspace.cc/ct_cipher
 
;^)
"Chris M. Thomasson" <invalid_chris_thomasson@invalid.invalid>: Apr 14 03:12PM -0700

On 4/14/2018 3:04 PM, Chris M. Thomasson wrote:
> cipher:
 
> http://funwithfractals.atspace.cc/ct_cipher
 
> ;^)
 
A simple HMAC version of your scheme would be something like:
_______________________
1. Rick creates a secret key SK, that nobody else knows about;
 
2. creates a plaintext P;
 
3. creates an HMAC H using SK and P;
 
4. concatenate H onto P;
 
5. Sends P;
_______________________
 
Make sure that SK is a crypto secure key.
 
Make sure that the hash used in HMAC is a crypto secure hash.
 
Now, the HMAC H sent in P is based on your personal secret key. Do not
show this key to anybody! Then, nobody can impersonate you. If they did,
the HMAC would not validate with your personal servers. Btw, keep those
servers secure damn it! :^)
David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no>: Apr 15 12:18AM +0200

On 14/04/18 19:29, Chris Vine wrote:
>> your fake religious posts are worse than Rick's real religious ones.
 
> Since you reply to some of Rick's postings, I don't think you have the
> right to criticize Flibble.
 
Of course I have that right. I've given my opinion - Mr. Flibble can
choose how much weight he gives it. (Note that Mr. Flibble also engages
with Rick.)
 
> I find some of Flibble's posts amusing.
> Not all, but considerably more amusing than Rick's posts.
 
I find it hard to comprehend that anyone would find many his "parody"
posts amusing, but okay. (Some of his posts /are/ witty - but they
would be better in his own name. And they might not provoke the same
response from Rick.)
 
> and you are criticizing his view of Christianity. If no one were to
> respond to any of his posts (including his on topic ones) there is a
> decent chance he would go away. But people, including you, do respond.
 
I fully agree that Rick has an odd religious attitude. I don't agree
that ignoring him entirely will make him go away - experience shows
otherwise. I have no idea what /would/ stop him making his religious
posts (or at least cutting them down dramatically) - but ignoring him
does not work. Perhaps answering his on-topic posts and not his
off-topic ones would help, or at least be no worse. However, one thing
that is /guaranteed/ to provoke more religious posts is posting fake
messages in his name. My attitude may not help, but I am far from
convinced that your attitude is much more successful (if I were, I'd
follow it). I have no doubts, however, that Mr. Flibble's is worse.
 
 
> If you are going to continue to do so, which is your right, please then
> refrain from asking Flibble to modify his approach.
 
I have no intention of going on about it. I am sure Mr. Flibble has
read my post - once is enough. If others agree with me and say so, that
may influence him - if others disagree with me, then fair enough.
 
Enough said, I hope. Unless anyone has a decent joke to add!
Daniel <danielaparker@gmail.com>: Apr 14 03:20PM -0700

On Saturday, April 14, 2018 at 5:49:36 PM UTC-4, Rick C. Hodgin wrote:
> to save us from judgment and restore us to that which He
> intended before sin entered in and destroyed everything.
> (4) Jesus will forgive you if you ask Him to.
 
Precisely my point, these are the words that come forth from any uneducated
street preacher, anywhere. They have no nuance, no mystery, no intellect, no
profoundness, no scholarship.

> I choose to listen to the One with real authority, the One who is
> over Frank even.
 
You may tell yourself that, but only because you can't face the alternative,
that you have come to like spamming usenet, and no longer have free will to
stop. If you try to stop spamming, you find that you can't. It's become a
drug that you can't stop taking. Even so, you should try.
 
Be well,
Daniel
"Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com>: Apr 14 03:45PM -0700

On Saturday, April 14, 2018 at 6:20:15 PM UTC-4, Daniel wrote:
 
> Precisely my point, these are the words that come forth from any uneducated
> street preacher, anywhere. They have no nuance, no mystery, no intellect, no
> profoundness, no scholarship.
 
You haven't gotten the first part. If you did, you would then say,
"Okay. What do I do now?" And then the conversation would go further.
 
You say "any uneducated street preacher anywhere." It's how all of
the reaching out to people begins. It goes from there into much deeper
conversations as the individual has ability, but it must start with the
first recognition of sin, their need to ask forgiveness and repent. If
that part never comes, the rest of it is just head knowledge and useless.
 
> that you have come to like spamming usenet, and no longer have free will to
> stop. If you try to stop spamming, you find that you can't. It's become a
> drug that you can't stop taking. Even so, you should try.
 
If Jesus tells us to go into the world and teach, I will do that. In
the example the hierarchy was:
 
(1) Rick -- Employee
(2) Bob -- Rick's boss
(3) Sandra -- Bob's boss
(4) Frank -- Owner
(5) Jesus -- Ruler of the universe
 
When (5) tells me to do something, and (2) thru (4) tell me to do some-
thing else, or to not do what (5) tells me ... (2) thru (4) will be dis-
appointed.
 
Daniel, this information is given for people who will be saved. If you
cannot hear His call in these messages, it's because you are not being
saved.
 
--
Rick C. Hodgin
Daniel <danielaparker@gmail.com>: Apr 14 04:09PM -0700

On Saturday, April 14, 2018 at 6:45:53 PM UTC-4, Rick C. Hodgin wrote:
 
> > > (1) You have sin.
 
> You haven't gotten the first part. If you did, you would then say,
> "Okay. What do I do now?"
 
So, if someone told you that in order to be saved, you need to have
Thargos (*) in your heart, would you say "Okay. What do I do now?" Do you see the problem? That assigning truth value to one and only one of the many ancient deities, fortuitously the one that your family identified with, has some difficulties?
 
But I digress. I think you like spamming usenet, I think you like it very,
very much. I think it's become a drug to you. If you doubt that, try an
experiment, try to stop spamming usenet for a month, and see if you
experience withdrawal symptoms.
 
(*) https://www.oglaf.com/cure-light-wounds/
"Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com>: Apr 14 04:14PM -0700

On Saturday, April 14, 2018 at 7:09:35 PM UTC-4, Daniel wrote:
> Do you see the problem? That assigning truth value to one and only
> one of the many ancient deities, fortuitously the one that your
> family identified with, has some difficulties?
 
Nobody can be drawn to my teaching by the merits of my teaching. You
point out the very flesh-based reasoning "flaw" in the system. The
flesh only knows what it knows, so how is "one deity" different than
another?
 
The Bible explains the difference:
 
https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=John+6%3A44&version=KJV
 
44 No man can come to me, except the Father which hath sent me
draw him: and I will raise him up at the last day.
 
==> Daniel, this information is given for people who will be saved.
==> If you cannot hear His call in these messages, it's because you
==> are not being saved.
 
Jesus divides people world-wide. Only those who are being saved will
EVER, EVER, EVER come to Him and ask forgiveness. The rest will perish
in their sin and be cast into eternal Hellfire.
 
As I say, this information is given for those who will be saved. It
is not given for other people.
 
--
Rick C. Hodgin
"Öö Tiib" <ootiib@hot.ee>: Apr 14 04:16PM -0700

On Sunday, 15 April 2018 01:18:19 UTC+3, David Brown wrote:
> posts amusing, but okay. (Some of his posts /are/ witty - but they
> would be better in his own name. And they might not provoke the same
> response from Rick.)
 
See, we with Chris Vine have now said that we found (purely matter of
taste) some Flibble's posts amusing. You disagree but lets agree that
we disagree here? We can't argue either way? It just ... was so. You
were purely annoyed but we got a chuckle. No one did any crimes.
Period.
 
> Enough said, I hope. Unless anyone has a decent joke to add!
 
An int, a char and a string walk into a bar and order some drinks. A
short while later, the int and char start hitting on the waitress who
gets very uncomfortable and walks away. The string walks up to the
waitress and says "You'll have to forgive them, they're primitive types."
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