Monday, January 1, 2018

Digest for comp.lang.c++@googlegroups.com - 16 updates in 9 topics

Ellen Ashley Hodgin <ellen@gmail.com>: Jan 01 05:28PM +0800

Please save me
 
Ellen
"Chris M. Thomasson" <invalid_chris_thomasson@invalid.invalid>: Jan 01 01:54AM -0800

On 1/1/2018 1:28 AM, Ellen Ashley Hodgin wrote:
> Please save me
 
Try C?
mcheung63@gmail.com: Jan 01 06:35AM -0800

Chris M. Thomasson於 2018年1月1日星期一 UTC+8下午5時55分05秒寫道:
> On 1/1/2018 1:28 AM, Ellen Ashley Hodgin wrote:
> > Please save me
 
> Try C?
 
I am a bitch
"Chris M. Thomasson" <invalid_chris_thomasson@invalid.invalid>: Jan 01 02:04PM -0800

>>> Please save me
 
>> Try C?
 
> I am a bitch
 
LOL!
Jorgen Grahn <grahn+nntp@snipabacken.se>: Jan 01 09:25PM

tOn Tue, 2017-12-19, Stefan Ram wrote:
> (here), while when one just types three dots »...« (in the
> monospaced font often used in Newsreaders) they are apart
> just fine.
 
I think there's a lot to be said for monospaced fonts. Proportional
fonts need serious typography and the attention of professionals,
while monospaced fonts follow the fruitful tradition of the
typewriter.
 
/Jorgen
 
--
// Jorgen Grahn <grahn@ Oo o. . .
\X/ snipabacken.se> O o .
Intelli2 <intelli2@mama.com>: Jan 01 01:53PM -0500

Hello,
 
 
Another new scalable algorithm of mine is coming..
 
It is a Scalable Lockfree bounded FIFO queue, i am finishing
implementing it right now in Delphi and FreePascal and porting it to
C++, it will work on both Windows and Linux, it will be really powerful,
and i am updating my other scalable FIFO queues to avoid false-sharing
in the bounded version.
 
And my other scalable algorithms of a fully scalable Threadpool and of
an almost fully scalable Threadpool(because work-stealing is rare) are
coming soon, i am wanting to sell my scalable algorithms that are fully
scalable on NUMA and multicores systems and there implementations to
Embarcadero or to Microsoft.
 
Please stay tuned !
 
Thank you,
Amine Moulay Ramdane.
Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com>: Jan 01 07:41PM +0100

> ..., and readability not even on the list.
 
That's serious issue. I'm trying to avoid to trace into
the standard-library of VC++. It looks like ASCII-garbage.
David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no>: Jan 01 05:00PM +0100

On 31/12/17 18:13, Dombo wrote:
> a 8-bit processor could do the job as well. Lower NRE, shorter time to
> market, easier grow path to more advanced versions of product may very
> well outweigh a small difference in BOM cost.
 
Yes.
 
> However at the most extreme end of the market (very high volume/very low
> retail price) every fraction of a cent still counts, and there is no
> thing like a "too small cost difference".
 
There is no extreme end where that is true - there is /always/ a
trade-off. Even for the most long-lived products, there are deadlines
and limits to development costs, and even the most mass-produced
products have limit production quantities in a given time period.
 
> associated RAM and ROM memory. A DAC (whose resistor network would
> occupy quite a bit of die real-estate) is usually omitted as PWM is for
> those applications good enough.
 
Agreed - this will vary from application to application.
 
 
> Also those applications typically don't use the smaller, more advanced
> (& more expensive) processes. That means the core, ROM and RAM still
> takes up quite a bit of die space.
 
That will vary. Small mass-produced systems rarely need a lot of RAM,
but can find ROM useful (such as for storing those irritating tunes).
An electric toothbrush, of course, does not need much ROM or RAM.
Typically the choice of process will be determined by many factors,
including other electronics on the chip (radio senders will need finer
processes, power electronics will be best with more robust processes)
and factory capacity.
 
> the job. Also for extremely low power applications (like clock,
> thermometer...etc.) a dedicated 4-bit processor can still have an edge
> compared to a more general purpose 8- or 32-bit processor.
 
These sorts of things are often done with dedicated devices that can
hardly be called a microcontroller.
 
> Given its functionality (on/off/charge) I'd expect a few discretes would
> suffice, yet apparently a 4-bit microcontroller was more economical, but
> something like a general purpose 8-pin PIC apparently too expensive.
 
There is a /huge/ gap between 4-bit microcontrollers and general purpose
off-the-shelf devices.
 
For the biggest quantity systems, you use a dedicated ASIC with a
microcontroller core. In some of these, you might still find 4-bit
cores - but I think it is rare, because the die area cost difference
between a 4-bit core and an 8-bit core is much smaller than it used to
be, while development times and time-to-market is more relevant than a
decade ago.
 
The next step down for not quite so big productions is to use ready-made
chips as bare die, rather than in a package. By that point, testing
costs for the die and mounting costs are getting more relevant.
 
And by the time you get to pre-packaged devices, the cost of a small
8-bit core is irrelevant.
 
Even when you are talking about very large quantities, fractions of a
cent spared here and there often don't amount to real savings. A
slightly better core might mean extra features, or shorter development
and prototyping time, or shorter production test times, or more re-use
of parts or code.
 
 
But all this is speculation on my part - I have no experience with large
production quantities. At my company, we only have a few products at
more than 10K boards per year - most are smaller runs than that.
 
> hobbyist scene due to the easy availability of the chips, tools &
> documentation and more recently the Arduino kits, but you don't find
> 8-bit AVRs that often in high volume products.
 
You are thinking of the Atmel products available to general customers.
A great deal more AVR cores are sold in ASICs than in off-the-shelf
microcontrollers. In fact, the off-the-shelf AVRs were started almost
as a side line to the main business of ASICs as someone thought that by
adding a few extra peripherals and better documentation they could sell
it to a wider audience with higher profit margins.
 
But you are right that AVR's are not very low end - as I said, Atmel
made a series of 4-bit microcontrollers too. The MARC4 devices were
targeted at infrared controls and wireless tyre pressure gauges amongst
other things. I have no idea how these compare to others in price -
they were just somewhat different in being available to mere mortals.
 
> the microcontroller market you find different players than the familiar
> players of the higher end microcontrollers (like Microchip, ST,
> Freescale....etc.).
 
Yes indeed - few people will have heard of them. However, even folks
like ST and Freescale make cores, ASICs, and dedicated chips for mass
productions. I read somewhere that the great majority of Coldfire cores
(Coldfire is the successor to the M68K family - certainly not low-end)
were in dedicated chips for single customers, rather than in readily
available processors and microcontrollers.
 
> Given how the market is developing even the 16-bit microcontroller
> families like the PIC24 and MSP430 don't appear to have a very bright
> future ahead of them.
 
The msp430 is still a fine choice in some areas. But I agree with you
here - it is not at all unreasonable to assume 32-bit for C++ libraries.
mcheung63@gmail.com: Dec 31 07:00PM -0800

Rick C. Hodgin於 2017年12月9日星期六 UTC+8上午2時02分58秒寫道:
 
> --
 
> Thank you,
> Rick C. Hodgin
 
Why you post the following thing to this technical newsgroup?
 
Man fell in the garden of Eden, and sin entered into this world and the
world we live in today is the result. Everywhere wars, hate, death, and
destruction, people looking out only for themselves and their personal
interests, and when they do charity it's to say, "Hey look! I do charity."
 
Jesus Christ came into this world to save man from sin. He teaches a new
way to be. That new way is the way He intended for us before sin entered
in and destroyed everything. He restores that which was lost: our future,
our eternal relationship with Him.
 
God is spirit. He is Father, Son, and Holy Spirit. His Son was flesh,
just like us. He came here to live under our laws and save us before God.
He completed His work at the cross after a ~3.5 year ministry, where He
was crucified and died in the flesh with our sin charged to Him. He was
innocent and had no sin of His own, and God allowed Him to receive the
sin of all who would put their faith and trust in Him, so that their sin
could be transferred (literally) from them to Him. Jesus died on the
cross, and went before God to pay the price of that sin. It was a heavy
price and it bruised God, it crushed Jesus. And on the third day, God
raised Him back to life and gave Him all authority in Heaven and on Earth.
 
What Jesus does for us when we come to Him and ask Him to forgive our sin,
is to restore us to eternal life. We are still here in this world for a
time, but our internal nature completely changes. We receive a new spirit
nature (John 3), and are guided from that day forward by His Holy Spirit.
Our flesh nature (sinful) is still here, and we can listen to that input,
and we can still do sinful things, but God's Holy Spirit is also there,
and our new spirit nature is also there, and everyone who is born of God
will not continue in sin for very long. God comes for us to lead us out
of sin, to even take us by the hand and drag us out of sin.
 
-----
Jesus didn't come to the Earth to save righteous people. He came to save
sinners.
 
Are you a sinner? Have you:
 
Ever stolen anything? Ever?
Used the Lord's name as a cuss word?
Lusted after someone who was not your spouse?
Told a lie? Ever?
Coveted after your neighbor's possessions? Ever?
 
All of us are guilty of these sins and more. Jesus knows this, which is
why He came here to save us. He does what we cannot do: He makes us
clean and shiny and innocent and new despite our filth and guilt in sin.
 
-----
You need to Jesus to forgive your sin. Ask Him to forgive you and begin
your new life with Him forever. He enters in the very moment you ask Him
to forgive your sin. It's what the words of the song Amazing Grace
convey:
 
"How precious did that grace appear, the hour I first believed..."
 
God's grace is given to us because He loves us. Jesus loves you and He
wants to forgive your sin and give you eternal life. Ask Him to forgive
you today, and enter in to His eternal Kingdom. He's gone ahead and made
a place for you, a custom place designed just for you, and He is return-
ing soon. The signs are foretold in the Bible and are unfurling before
our very eyes.
 
John 3:
https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=John+3&version=KJV
 
Jesus prepares a place for you in advance:
https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=John+14&version=KJV
 
Jesus loves you. I love you. I teach you about Him, and He teaches
you the truth. Read the Bible and learn the truth God gave mankind to
protect him from the enemy, to save him from sin. He did this for you,
directly and personally.
 
--
Rick C. Hodgin
"Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com>: Dec 31 07:06PM -0800

> > The rapture will happen soon; the last ones didn't happen because reasons.
 
> Why you post the following thing to this technical newsgroup?
 
> Man fell in the garden of Eden...[snip]
 
Because I care about people.
 
The teaching in that post explains about sin, about judgment for sin,
about salvation from judgment by Jesus Christ. It is THE ONE WAY God
has given mankind to be forgiven of their sin. It's a teaching to have
eternal life.
 
--
Rick C. Hodgin
mcheung63@gmail.com: Dec 31 07:14PM -0800

Rick C. Hodgin於 2018年1月1日星期一 UTC+8上午11時06分22秒寫道:
> eternal life.
 
> --
> Rick C. Hodgin
 
Why you post the following thing to this technical newsgroup?
 
Man fell in the garden of Eden, and sin entered into this world and the
world we live in today is the result. Everywhere wars, hate, death, and
destruction, people looking out only for themselves and their personal
interests, and when they do charity it's to say, "Hey look! I do charity."
 
Jesus Christ came into this world to save man from sin. He teaches a new
way to be. That new way is the way He intended for us before sin entered
in and destroyed everything. He restores that which was lost: our future,
our eternal relationship with Him.
 
God is spirit. He is Father, Son, and Holy Spirit. His Son was flesh,
just like us. He came here to live under our laws and save us before God.
He completed His work at the cross after a ~3.5 year ministry, where He
was crucified and died in the flesh with our sin charged to Him. He was
innocent and had no sin of His own, and God allowed Him to receive the
sin of all who would put their faith and trust in Him, so that their sin
could be transferred (literally) from them to Him. Jesus died on the
cross, and went before God to pay the price of that sin. It was a heavy
price and it bruised God, it crushed Jesus. And on the third day, God
raised Him back to life and gave Him all authority in Heaven and on Earth.
 
What Jesus does for us when we come to Him and ask Him to forgive our sin,
is to restore us to eternal life. We are still here in this world for a
time, but our internal nature completely changes. We receive a new spirit
nature (John 3), and are guided from that day forward by His Holy Spirit.
Our flesh nature (sinful) is still here, and we can listen to that input,
and we can still do sinful things, but God's Holy Spirit is also there,
and our new spirit nature is also there, and everyone who is born of God
will not continue in sin for very long. God comes for us to lead us out
of sin, to even take us by the hand and drag us out of sin.
 
-----
Jesus didn't come to the Earth to save righteous people. He came to save
sinners.
 
Are you a sinner? Have you:
 
Ever stolen anything? Ever?
Used the Lord's name as a cuss word?
Lusted after someone who was not your spouse?
Told a lie? Ever?
Coveted after your neighbor's possessions? Ever?
 
All of us are guilty of these sins and more. Jesus knows this, which is
why He came here to save us. He does what we cannot do: He makes us
clean and shiny and innocent and new despite our filth and guilt in sin.
 
-----
You need to Jesus to forgive your sin. Ask Him to forgive you and begin
your new life with Him forever. He enters in the very moment you ask Him
to forgive your sin. It's what the words of the song Amazing Grace
convey:
 
"How precious did that grace appear, the hour I first believed..."
 
God's grace is given to us because He loves us. Jesus loves you and He
wants to forgive your sin and give you eternal life. Ask Him to forgive
you today, and enter in to His eternal Kingdom. He's gone ahead and made
a place for you, a custom place designed just for you, and He is return-
ing soon. The signs are foretold in the Bible and are unfurling before
our very eyes.
 
John 3:
https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=John+3&version=KJV
 
Jesus prepares a place for you in advance:
https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=John+14&version=KJV
 
Jesus loves you. I love you. I teach you about Him, and He teaches
you the truth. Read the Bible and learn the truth God gave mankind to
protect him from the enemy, to save him from sin. He did this for you,
directly and personally.
 
--
Rick C. Hodgin Why you post the following thing to this technical newsgroup?
 
Man fell in the garden of Eden, and sin entered into this world and the
world we live in today is the result. Everywhere wars, hate, death, and
destruction, people looking out only for themselves and their personal
interests, and when they do charity it's to say, "Hey look! I do charity."
 
Jesus Christ came into this world to save man from sin. He teaches a new
way to be. That new way is the way He intended for us before sin entered
in and destroyed everything. He restores that which was lost: our future,
our eternal relationship with Him.
 
God is spirit. He is Father, Son, and Holy Spirit. His Son was flesh,
just like us. He came here to live under our laws and save us before God.
He completed His work at the cross after a ~3.5 year ministry, where He
was crucified and died in the flesh with our sin charged to Him. He was
innocent and had no sin of His own, and God allowed Him to receive the
sin of all who would put their faith and trust in Him, so that their sin
could be transferred (literally) from them to Him. Jesus died on the
cross, and went before God to pay the price of that sin. It was a heavy
price and it bruised God, it crushed Jesus. And on the third day, God
raised Him back to life and gave Him all authority in Heaven and on Earth.
 
What Jesus does for us when we come to Him and ask Him to forgive our sin,
is to restore us to eternal life. We are still here in this world for a
time, but our internal nature completely changes. We receive a new spirit
nature (John 3), and are guided from that day forward by His Holy Spirit.
Our flesh nature (sinful) is still here, and we can listen to that input,
and we can still do sinful things, but God's Holy Spirit is also there,
and our new spirit nature is also there, and everyone who is born of God
will not continue in sin for very long. God comes for us to lead us out
of sin, to even take us by the hand and drag us out of sin.
 
-----
Jesus didn't come to the Earth to save righteous people. He came to save
sinners.
 
Are you a sinner? Have you:
 
Ever stolen anything? Ever?
Used the Lord's name as a cuss word?
Lusted after someone who was not your spouse?
Told a lie? Ever?
Coveted after your neighbor's possessions? Ever?
 
All of us are guilty of these sins and more. Jesus knows this, which is
why He came here to save us. He does what we cannot do: He makes us
clean and shiny and innocent and new despite our filth and guilt in sin.
 
-----
You need to Jesus to forgive your sin. Ask Him to forgive you and begin
your new life with Him forever. He enters in the very moment you ask Him
to forgive your sin. It's what the words of the song Amazing Grace
convey:
 
"How precious did that grace appear, the hour I first believed..."
 
God's grace is given to us because He loves us. Jesus loves you and He
wants to forgive your sin and give you eternal life. Ask Him to forgive
you today, and enter in to His eternal Kingdom. He's gone ahead and made
a place for you, a custom place designed just for you, and He is return-
ing soon. The signs are foretold in the Bible and are unfurling before
our very eyes.
 
John 3:
https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=John+3&version=KJV
 
Jesus prepares a place for you in advance:
https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=John+14&version=KJV
 
Jesus loves you. I love you. I teach you about Him, and He teaches
you the truth. Read the Bible and learn the truth God gave mankind to
protect him from the enemy, to save him from sin. He did this for you,
directly and personally.
 
--
Rick C. Hodgin Why you post the following thing to this technical newsgroup?
 
Man fell in the garden of Eden, and sin entered into this world and the
world we live in today is the result. Everywhere wars, hate, death, and
destruction, people looking out only for themselves and their personal
interests, and when they do charity it's to say, "Hey look! I do charity."
 
Jesus Christ came into this world to save man from sin. He teaches a new
way to be. That new way is the way He intended for us before sin entered
in and destroyed everything. He restores that which was lost: our future,
our eternal relationship with Him.
 
God is spirit. He is Father, Son, and Holy Spirit. His Son was flesh,
just like us. He came here to live under our laws and save us before God.
He completed His work at the cross after a ~3.5 year ministry, where He
was crucified and died in the flesh with our sin charged to Him. He was
innocent and had no sin of His own, and God allowed Him to receive the
sin of all who would put their faith and trust in Him, so that their sin
could be transferred (literally) from them to Him. Jesus died on the
cross, and went before God to pay the price of that sin. It was a heavy
price and it bruised God, it crushed Jesus. And on the third day, God
raised Him back to life and gave Him all authority in Heaven and on Earth.
 
What Jesus does for us when we come to Him and ask Him to forgive our sin,
is to restore us to eternal life. We are still here in this world for a
time, but our internal nature completely changes. We receive a new spirit
nature (John 3), and are guided from that day forward by His Holy Spirit.
Our flesh nature (sinful) is still here, and we can listen to that input,
and we can still do sinful things, but God's Holy Spirit is also there,
and our new spirit nature is also there, and everyone who is born of God
will not continue in sin for very long. God comes for us to lead us out
of sin, to even take us by the hand and drag us out of sin.
 
-----
Jesus didn't come to the Earth to save righteous people. He came to save
sinners.
 
Are you a sinner? Have you:
 
Ever stolen anything? Ever?
Used the Lord's name as a cuss word?
Lusted after someone who was not your spouse?
Told a lie? Ever?
Coveted after your neighbor's possessions? Ever?
 
All of us are guilty of these sins and more. Jesus knows this, which is
why He came here to save us. He does what we cannot do: He makes us
clean and shiny and innocent and new despite our filth and guilt in sin.
 
-----
You need to Jesus to forgive your sin. Ask Him to forgive you and begin
your new life with Him forever. He enters in the very moment you ask Him
to forgive your sin. It's what the words of the song Amazing Grace
convey:
 
"How precious did that grace appear, the hour I first believed..."
 
God's grace is given to us because He loves us. Jesus loves you and He
wants to forgive your sin and give you eternal life. Ask Him to forgive
you today, and enter in to His eternal Kingdom. He's gone ahead and made
a place for you, a custom place designed just for you, and He is return-
ing soon. The signs are foretold in the Bible and are unfurling before
our very eyes.
 
John 3:
https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=John+3&version=KJV
 
Jesus prepares a place for you in advance:
https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=John+14&version=KJV
 
Jesus loves you. I love you. I teach you about Him, and He teaches
you the truth. Read the Bible and learn the truth God gave mankind to
protect him from the enemy, to save him from sin. He did this for you,
directly and personally.
 
--
Rick C. Hodgin Why you post the following thing to this technical newsgroup?
 
Man fell in the garden of Eden, and sin entered into this world and the
world we live in today is the result. Everywhere wars, hate, death, and
destruction, people looking out only for themselves and their personal
interests, and when they do charity it's to say, "Hey look! I do charity."
 
Jesus Christ came into this world to save man from sin. He teaches a new
way to be. That new way is the way He intended for us before sin entered
in and destroyed everything. He restores that which was lost: our future,
our eternal relationship with Him.
 
God is spirit. He is Father, Son, and Holy Spirit. His Son was flesh,
just like us. He came here to live under our laws and save us before God.
He completed His work at the cross after a ~3.5 year ministry, where He
was crucified and died in the flesh with our sin charged to Him. He was
innocent and had no sin of His own, and God allowed Him to receive the
sin of all who would put their faith and trust in Him, so that their sin
could be transferred (literally) from them to Him. Jesus died on the
cross, and went before God to pay the price of that sin. It was a heavy
price and it bruised God, it crushed Jesus. And on the third day, God
raised Him back to life and gave Him all authority in Heaven and on Earth.
 
What Jesus does for us when we come to Him and ask Him to forgive our sin,
is to restore us to eternal life. We are still here in this world for a
time, but our internal nature completely changes. We receive a new spirit
nature (John 3), and are guided from that day forward by His Holy Spirit.
Our flesh nature (sinful) is still here, and we can listen to that input,
and we can still do sinful things, but God's Holy Spirit is also there,
and our new spirit nature is also there, and everyone who is born of God
will not continue in sin for very long. God comes for us to lead us out
of sin, to even take us by the hand and drag us out of sin.
 
-----
Jesus didn't come to the Earth to save righteous people. He came to save
sinners.
 
Are you a sinner? Have you:
 
Ever stolen anything? Ever?
Used the Lord's name as a cuss word?
Lusted after someone who was not your spouse?
Told a lie? Ever?
Coveted after your neighbor's possessions? Ever?
 
All of us are guilty of these sins and more. Jesus knows this, which is
why He came here to save us. He does what we cannot do: He makes us
clean and shiny and innocent and new despite our filth and guilt in sin.
 
-----
You need to Jesus to forgive your sin. Ask Him to forgive you and begin
your new life with Him forever. He enters in the very moment you ask Him
to forgive your sin. It's what the words of the song Amazing Grace
convey:
 
"How precious did that grace appear, the hour I first believed..."
 
God's grace is given to us because He loves us. Jesus loves you and He
wants to forgive your sin and give you eternal life. Ask Him to forgive
you today, and enter in to His eternal Kingdom. He's gone ahead and made
a place for you, a custom place designed just for you, and He is return-
ing soon. The signs are foretold in the Bible and are unfurling before
our very eyes.
 
John 3:
https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=John+3&version=KJV
 
Jesus prepares a place for you in advance:
https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=John+14&version=KJV
 
Jesus loves you. I love you. I teach you about Him, and He teaches
you the truth. Read the Bible and learn the truth God gave mankind to
protect him from the enemy, to save him from sin. He did this for you,
directly and personally.
 
--
Rick C. Hodgin Why you post the following thing to this technical newsgroup?
 
Man fell in the garden of Eden, and sin entered into this world and the
world we live in today is the result. Everywhere wars, hate, death, and
destruction, people looking out only for themselves and their personal
interests, and when they do charity it's to say, "Hey look! I do charity."
 
Jesus Christ came into this world to save man from sin. He teaches a new
way to be. That new way is the way He intended for us before sin entered
in and destroyed everything. He restores that which was lost: our future,
our eternal relationship with Him.
 
God is spirit.
"Chris M. Thomasson" <invalid_chris_thomasson@invalid.invalid>: Jan 01 01:06AM -0800

On 12/8/2017 10:02 AM, Rick C. Hodgin wrote:
> The rapture will happen soon; the last ones didn't happen because reasons.
 
NO. The rapture is a LIE!
 
;^)
"Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com>: Jan 01 07:16AM -0800

On Friday, December 8, 2017 at 1:02:58 PM UTC-5, Rick C. Hodgin wrote:
 
> --
 
> Thank you,
> Rick C. Hodgin
 
I did not make this post. It was made by Leigh Johnston (Mr. Flibble)
impersonating me.
 
You can examine the headers and see the source of the messages I post,
and the source of the messages he posts.
 
--
Rick C. Hodgin
mcheung63@gmail.com: Dec 31 07:14PM -0800

Rick C. Hodgin於 2017年12月5日星期二 UTC+8下午7時36分08秒寫道:
> now our natural desire to do, not because of religious rituals.
 
> --
> Rick C. Hodgin
 
Why you post the following thing to this technical newsgroup?
 
Man fell in the garden of Eden, and sin entered into this world and the
world we live in today is the result. Everywhere wars, hate, death, and
destruction, people looking out only for themselves and their personal
interests, and when they do charity it's to say, "Hey look! I do charity."
 
Jesus Christ came into this world to save man from sin. He teaches a new
way to be. That new way is the way He intended for us before sin entered
in and destroyed everything. He restores that which was lost: our future,
our eternal relationship with Him.
 
God is spirit. He is Father, Son, and Holy Spirit. His Son was flesh,
just like us. He came here to live under our laws and save us before God.
He completed His work at the cross after a ~3.5 year ministry, where He
was crucified and died in the flesh with our sin charged to Him. He was
innocent and had no sin of His own, and God allowed Him to receive the
sin of all who would put their faith and trust in Him, so that their sin
could be transferred (literally) from them to Him. Jesus died on the
cross, and went before God to pay the price of that sin. It was a heavy
price and it bruised God, it crushed Jesus. And on the third day, God
raised Him back to life and gave Him all authority in Heaven and on Earth.
 
What Jesus does for us when we come to Him and ask Him to forgive our sin,
is to restore us to eternal life. We are still here in this world for a
time, but our internal nature completely changes. We receive a new spirit
nature (John 3), and are guided from that day forward by His Holy Spirit.
Our flesh nature (sinful) is still here, and we can listen to that input,
and we can still do sinful things, but God's Holy Spirit is also there,
and our new spirit nature is also there, and everyone who is born of God
will not continue in sin for very long. God comes for us to lead us out
of sin, to even take us by the hand and drag us out of sin.
 
-----
Jesus didn't come to the Earth to save righteous people. He came to save
sinners.
 
Are you a sinner? Have you:
 
Ever stolen anything? Ever?
Used the Lord's name as a cuss word?
Lusted after someone who was not your spouse?
Told a lie? Ever?
Coveted after your neighbor's possessions? Ever?
 
All of us are guilty of these sins and more. Jesus knows this, which is
why He came here to save us. He does what we cannot do: He makes us
clean and shiny and innocent and new despite our filth and guilt in sin.
 
-----
You need to Jesus to forgive your sin. Ask Him to forgive you and begin
your new life with Him forever. He enters in the very moment you ask Him
to forgive your sin. It's what the words of the song Amazing Grace
convey:
 
"How precious did that grace appear, the hour I first believed..."
 
God's grace is given to us because He loves us. Jesus loves you and He
wants to forgive your sin and give you eternal life. Ask Him to forgive
you today, and enter in to His eternal Kingdom. He's gone ahead and made
a place for you, a custom place designed just for you, and He is return-
ing soon. The signs are foretold in the Bible and are unfurling before
our very eyes.
 
John 3:
https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=John+3&version=KJV
 
Jesus prepares a place for you in advance:
https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=John+14&version=KJV
 
Jesus loves you. I love you. I teach you about Him, and He teaches
you the truth. Read the Bible and learn the truth God gave mankind to
protect him from the enemy, to save him from sin. He did this for you,
directly and personally.
 
--
Rick C. Hodgin
mcheung63@gmail.com: Dec 31 07:00PM -0800

Rick C. Hodgin於 2017年11月22日星期三 UTC+8上午3時29分11秒寫道:
 
> --
 
> Thank you,
> Rick C. Hodgin
 
Why you post the following thing to this technical newsgroup?
 
Man fell in the garden of Eden, and sin entered into this world and the
world we live in today is the result. Everywhere wars, hate, death, and
destruction, people looking out only for themselves and their personal
interests, and when they do charity it's to say, "Hey look! I do charity."
 
Jesus Christ came into this world to save man from sin. He teaches a new
way to be. That new way is the way He intended for us before sin entered
in and destroyed everything. He restores that which was lost: our future,
our eternal relationship with Him.
 
God is spirit. He is Father, Son, and Holy Spirit. His Son was flesh,
just like us. He came here to live under our laws and save us before God.
He completed His work at the cross after a ~3.5 year ministry, where He
was crucified and died in the flesh with our sin charged to Him. He was
innocent and had no sin of His own, and God allowed Him to receive the
sin of all who would put their faith and trust in Him, so that their sin
could be transferred (literally) from them to Him. Jesus died on the
cross, and went before God to pay the price of that sin. It was a heavy
price and it bruised God, it crushed Jesus. And on the third day, God
raised Him back to life and gave Him all authority in Heaven and on Earth.
 
What Jesus does for us when we come to Him and ask Him to forgive our sin,
is to restore us to eternal life. We are still here in this world for a
time, but our internal nature completely changes. We receive a new spirit
nature (John 3), and are guided from that day forward by His Holy Spirit.
Our flesh nature (sinful) is still here, and we can listen to that input,
and we can still do sinful things, but God's Holy Spirit is also there,
and our new spirit nature is also there, and everyone who is born of God
will not continue in sin for very long. God comes for us to lead us out
of sin, to even take us by the hand and drag us out of sin.
 
-----
Jesus didn't come to the Earth to save righteous people. He came to save
sinners.
 
Are you a sinner? Have you:
 
Ever stolen anything? Ever?
Used the Lord's name as a cuss word?
Lusted after someone who was not your spouse?
Told a lie? Ever?
Coveted after your neighbor's possessions? Ever?
 
All of us are guilty of these sins and more. Jesus knows this, which is
why He came here to save us. He does what we cannot do: He makes us
clean and shiny and innocent and new despite our filth and guilt in sin.
 
-----
You need to Jesus to forgive your sin. Ask Him to forgive you and begin
your new life with Him forever. He enters in the very moment you ask Him
to forgive your sin. It's what the words of the song Amazing Grace
convey:
 
"How precious did that grace appear, the hour I first believed..."
 
God's grace is given to us because He loves us. Jesus loves you and He
wants to forgive your sin and give you eternal life. Ask Him to forgive
you today, and enter in to His eternal Kingdom. He's gone ahead and made
a place for you, a custom place designed just for you, and He is return-
ing soon. The signs are foretold in the Bible and are unfurling before
our very eyes.
 
John 3:
https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=John+3&version=KJV
 
Jesus prepares a place for you in advance:
https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=John+14&version=KJV
 
Jesus loves you. I love you. I teach you about Him, and He teaches
you the truth. Read the Bible and learn the truth God gave mankind to
protect him from the enemy, to save him from sin. He did this for you,
directly and personally.
 
--
Rick C. Hodgin
mcheung63@gmail.com: Dec 31 07:00PM -0800

Rick C. Hodgin於 2017年11月30日星期四 UTC+8下午10時21分29秒寫道:
> originally held rights to it walks away.
 
> --
> Rick C. Hodgin
 
Why you post the following thing to this technical newsgroup?
 
Man fell in the garden of Eden, and sin entered into this world and the
world we live in today is the result. Everywhere wars, hate, death, and
destruction, people looking out only for themselves and their personal
interests, and when they do charity it's to say, "Hey look! I do charity."
 
Jesus Christ came into this world to save man from sin. He teaches a new
way to be. That new way is the way He intended for us before sin entered
in and destroyed everything. He restores that which was lost: our future,
our eternal relationship with Him.
 
God is spirit. He is Father, Son, and Holy Spirit. His Son was flesh,
just like us. He came here to live under our laws and save us before God.
He completed His work at the cross after a ~3.5 year ministry, where He
was crucified and died in the flesh with our sin charged to Him. He was
innocent and had no sin of His own, and God allowed Him to receive the
sin of all who would put their faith and trust in Him, so that their sin
could be transferred (literally) from them to Him. Jesus died on the
cross, and went before God to pay the price of that sin. It was a heavy
price and it bruised God, it crushed Jesus. And on the third day, God
raised Him back to life and gave Him all authority in Heaven and on Earth.
 
What Jesus does for us when we come to Him and ask Him to forgive our sin,
is to restore us to eternal life. We are still here in this world for a
time, but our internal nature completely changes. We receive a new spirit
nature (John 3), and are guided from that day forward by His Holy Spirit.
Our flesh nature (sinful) is still here, and we can listen to that input,
and we can still do sinful things, but God's Holy Spirit is also there,
and our new spirit nature is also there, and everyone who is born of God
will not continue in sin for very long. God comes for us to lead us out
of sin, to even take us by the hand and drag us out of sin.
 
-----
Jesus didn't come to the Earth to save righteous people. He came to save
sinners.
 
Are you a sinner? Have you:
 
Ever stolen anything? Ever?
Used the Lord's name as a cuss word?
Lusted after someone who was not your spouse?
Told a lie? Ever?
Coveted after your neighbor's possessions? Ever?
 
All of us are guilty of these sins and more. Jesus knows this, which is
why He came here to save us. He does what we cannot do: He makes us
clean and shiny and innocent and new despite our filth and guilt in sin.
 
-----
You need to Jesus to forgive your sin. Ask Him to forgive you and begin
your new life with Him forever. He enters in the very moment you ask Him
to forgive your sin. It's what the words of the song Amazing Grace
convey:
 
"How precious did that grace appear, the hour I first believed..."
 
God's grace is given to us because He loves us. Jesus loves you and He
wants to forgive your sin and give you eternal life. Ask Him to forgive
you today, and enter in to His eternal Kingdom. He's gone ahead and made
a place for you, a custom place designed just for you, and He is return-
ing soon. The signs are foretold in the Bible and are unfurling before
our very eyes.
 
John 3:
https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=John+3&version=KJV
 
Jesus prepares a place for you in advance:
https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=John+14&version=KJV
 
Jesus loves you. I love you. I teach you about Him, and He teaches
you the truth. Read the Bible and learn the truth God gave mankind to
protect him from the enemy, to save him from sin. He did this for you,
directly and personally.
 
--
Rick C. Hodgin
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