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Intelli2 <intelli2@mama.com>: Jan 25 02:27PM -0500

Hello,
 
Read this:
 
 
What is the essence of metathought in philosophy ?
 
Why are we thinking the thinking ?
 
This is a good subject of philosophy..
 
If i ask you question of what is morality ?
 
You will have the tendency to answer like this:
 
That morality is about the good and bad..
 
But this is too much abstraction that lacks sophistication and
understanding, this is too simplistic thinking..
 
This is why metathought of philosophy is all about,
it is a sophistication of our thought or a perfection of our thought
that wants to perfect our thinking, this is the essence of humanity
that is perfection.
 
And now you are really feeling the essence of philosophy that is the
essence of humanity that is: perfection that comprehend !
 
For example metathought of philosophy is concerned by a subject like:
 
What is the essence of logic ?
 
Here is my answer that is also metahought of philosophy:
 
Determinism easy for us to set the truth and sets the way of logic, and
this truth and way of logic must be computed by our brain to create
a consistent system that is efficient morality that is optimization
that is performance and reliability. So there is some truth that hurts
and some truth that is efficient morality that is optimization that we
call tolerable or good, so the essence of truth is based on our essence
that is our consciousness of space-time and the determinism of our
empirical and physical world, and about the essence of logical
consistency of the system, you can understand it by example like this:
 
About the consistency of the system
 
We call it consistency of the system..
 
When the system is:
 
 
If A is smaller than B
 
And B is smaller than C
 
And if B is medium
 
 
The system above doesn't allow to say that: A is smaller than B
 
Because if you say that , it is as you are saying that A is smaller than
B only, so that's a contradiction that hurts consistency of the system.
 
And The system above doesn't allow to say that: B is smaller than C
 
Because if you say that , it is as you are saying that B is smaller than
C only, so that's a contradiction that hurts consistency of the system.
 
So the system has to be consistent, so the system force you to say all
at the same time:
 
A is smaller than B
 
B is smaller than C
 
B is medium
 
 
So that to be strict and clear to not create any contradiction.
 
And about the essence of measure..
 
Philosophy is like mathematics..
 
Now what is the essence of measure ?
 
I think that the reference is the consciousness of space-time as
i have explained, adjoined with the senses of measure that we have,
such as the sense of orientation and the sense of measuring space and
saying that this is bigger than this etc. those ingredients
permit us to measure, i will ask for example, what is a point (in
geometry) ? to understand a point we must map it to our consciousness
of space-time as i have explained, so this is rooted on the physical
empirical world, even if we are using our senses of measure, so this
is why i have explained that mathematical logic and the mathematical Set
theory for example are also rooted on the physical and empirical world ,
but the space-time can be relative or general, relativeness permit also
to measure the truth , but this seems to create some contradictions in
the system, this has been showed in my writing and explanation of my
previous post of what is the essence of love and what is love, but i
have showed that this can be resolved by using the reference of the
general morality of the society as the reference that permits to measure
and that must be enforced by laws and police.
 
The essence of the Truth
 
What is a Truth ? what is the essence of the Truth ?
 
That's an important question..
 
Philosophy is like mathematics, because Philosophy must be based on
efficient morality and efficient morality is optimization and
optimization is performance and reliability.
 
So if you look at mathematical logic..
 
What is mathematical logic ?
 
Mathematical logic is also being conscious and feeling the space-time..
 
Here is why:
 
Now I will give my explanation of what is consciousness...
 
I hope that in my previous messages you have understood my explanation
of how the consciousness of time is generated by our brain, I have said
that the brain has a sense of direction that makes it possible to say
that one object is left or on the right and back or front etc., and the
brain is also able to see space in 3 dimensions with the sense of the
gaze for example, that is to say to give coordinates as cartesian or
polar in three dimensions to objects in the space of reality, and also
the brain by means of the sense of touch and the eye is capable of the
sense of the measurement of the magnitudes in the space of reality,
these are ingredients of the brain which gives birth to the
consciousness of time, for consciousness of time means that for two
objects that follow each other, we are able to feel the existence in
space of the back of the first object (by the sens of the orientation of
the brain) Which is for example "nothing", and that one also feels the
existence in the space of the back of the second object which is the
first object, and that we are therefore able to associate the back of
the second object to the word "before", and this is how the
consciousness of time is engendered ... now i come to a question even
more important, but what is consciousness really? i start with an
example so that you can understand what it really is: when you touch
your hands with water very hot, you are able to feel the pain and
to say that it is you who feel the pain, so the meaning
of touch is closely linked to the consciousness of the "I", but
Let us return, if you like, to the experiences of a child,
you will notice that a necessary condition for the child
to be able to learn and understand is to be able to
ask the question of "what is", but you see this question has as a
necessary condition the consciousness of the self, for when the child
arises, question of "what is" is that it would mean:
"I would like to know what it is", and the "I would like to know"
demonstrates the presence of a consciousness of the pre-ego which
guide the questioning of the child, but then what is this
awareness of the pre-ego that guides the questioning that
makes a consciousness too? Here is my answer: I believe that
as in the case of the sense of touch which is in close relationship
with the consciousness of the ego, the act of reflection is also a sens
as the sens of touch that is able to make us feel that we exist and feel
the space in three dimensions, as for touching the very warm water that
allows us to feel that the feeling of hot water hurts us ... what would
I like to say? that the sens of touch and the sens of smell for example
are adjoined to space-time to give a better consciousness of space-time,
that is, the ideas we have of space-time are not, for example, just
rules of logic, but also are recorded with sensations of touch and
other sensations to give a better consciousness, so the act
of reflection is not just able to logically reason with simple rules of
logic for building more complex logic rules etc. But it is also capable
of associating space-time sensations with objects that are displaced in
a 3-dimensional world, and therefore my theory makes us see the act of
thought as also being also another sens that resembles the sens of touch
, this is my explanation of how the consciousness and consciousness of
the ego is engendered by the brain.
 
When you say in mathematical logic:
 
A or B
 
How do you think you understand this logical rule?
You must go back to your childhood when you were
to learn it, you were told for example there are two balls,
and you had to take just one and give it back, and the teacher
made us understand for example the following: when you want to take two
balls you are informed with gestures that it is NO,
And when you just take one and turn the ball back, you get
to know that it is YES, therefore I affirm that it is thanks to the
existence of space-time which is also a consequence of our interior
sensation of the space-time which gives the consciousness of space-time,
I mean you are able for example with your brain
to feel and understand what BEFORE or BEHIND
Or LEFT or RIGHT, and you are able to feel the
space and to say that it exists and what it is, so you
are able to feel the space-time, and this sensation
in our brain that we have of space-time helps us
to understand the logical rule of: A or B, or the logical rule
of: A and B.
 
So let us return to the following theorem in mathematical logic:
 
If A then B, and if B then C, then A then C.
 
So how do you understand the:
If A then B? As in my explanation above, you can not
understand this rule without being conscious and without feeling
space-time, because even if you are a blind person, you can
feel your individuality and your singularity
which is the consciousness of the ego, and this self-consciousness
is a consequence of the sensation in our brain of space-time that allows
us to feel that the object which is "WE" is different from other objects
etc. Then what makes even the blind man feels the space-time and is
capable to say that this object is before that object in time,
So it is able to understand the logical rule of:
If A then B, and since he is capable of doing so, he is capable, thanks
to the sensation of the space-time that we have in our brain, that
permit us to understand The following theorem:
 
If A then B, and if B then C, then A then C.
 
This is my evidence based on the empirical facts and this proves that
mathematical logic is also a consequence of the sensation that we have
in our brain of space-time, without this sensation we can not, in my
opinion, understand mathematical logic, and since the machine is
incapable of feeling like a human being space-time, then we can not say
that artificial intelligence Is capable of achieving the emergence of
consciousness.
 
Now what is the truth ?
 
In mathematical logic the truth is rooted on our consciousness
and feeling of space-time as i have explained, so the reference
is space-time, so we are capable of deducting the truth by
mapping mathematical logic to our consciousness and our feeling
of the space-time, this is i think the reference that permit
to measure the Truth and define the Truth. And in the mathematical Set
theory that's the same as logic. Also the reference is important,
the reference can be general or it can be relative.
 
 
 
Thank you,
Amine Moulay Ramdane.
Intelli2 <intelli2@mama.com>: Jan 25 01:17PM -0500

Hello...
 
Read this:
 
 
What is the essence of democracy ?
 
This is a good subject of philosophy..
 
And i have to use rationality and some knowledge to answer it and
to know and comprehend it.
 
I think the essence of democracy comes from the essence of humanity
that is perfection, because our past was full of defectuosities or flaws
and inferiorities and it was full of corruption, so we have tried to
transcend our living conditions with democracy because the process of
democracy is like darwinism , because democracy present to us, we
people, different actors and we have to choose the best among them, but
democracy is a broader concept that include as a necessity to be more
successful the presence of a good media and a good knowledge that help
us to optimize best our choice among the actors of democracy, also
democracy of today is tuned in such a way that it is founded on the
presence of better quality tools that enhance its efficiency and that is
in accordance with efficient morality, but do we have to be pessimistic
about democracy ?
i don't think so, because democracy is better constrained by tools that
enhance better its quality, but we have to be careful and to adhere
to the way of thinking of efficient morality that i have defined as
Performance and reliability.
 
What is the essence of craziness and foolishness ?
 
We have to be smart to answer this question, and like in philosophy
we have to be more rigorous..
 
The essence of craziness and foolishness is related to the essence of laws..
 
We are setting the laws, but who is setting the laws ?
 
It is efficient morality that must set the laws, and efficient morality
can not be craziness and inferiority of nazism, because being nazism is
being crazy, because the essence of laws is the essence of efficient
morality, and we can not necessarely authorize nazism or neo-nazism to
govern, because of all my previous proofs, and you have noticed that i
have defined craziness and foolishness that is related to corrruption of
morality, here it is again:
 
It is like when we are asking the questions of:
 
What is the essence of corruption ? and how can we measure corruption ?
 
I have said that optimization measures corruption of morality.
 
How it can measure it?
 
Optimization is performance and reliability, and Efficiency is part of
optimization, efficiency is: you have the ressources that is our
universe(we are part of the universe) and our other universes, and you
have to produce an output from this input that is our universe or
universes that is performant, it is performance, so it is related to
the essence of quality, so today because of our own essence that
knows also about quality, we are measuring corruption of morality
by the level or degree of quality, that means by performance and
reliability, and we are measuring craziness and foolishness by the level
or degree of quality, that means by performance and reliability, so if
the level or degree of quality is lower and not tolerable, we say that
it is corruption of morality or it is craziness or foolishness.
 
How can we measure the level and degree of quality ?
 
It is like saying that such thing is relative to such thing, also it is
a process that is dynamic, so if our civilization is at time t1 is
more performant and more reliable, we say that this degree of more
reliable and more performant is the level or degree of quality that
measures corruption of morality. So optimization that is performance and
reliability measures corruption of morality in a such way.
 
I give you an example..
 
If at time t1 our civilization has only one machine or robot, and this
civilization and one robot or one machine are capable of being more
performance and more reliability with this one robot or one machine, but
they are doing less performance and less reliability, we call this
corruption of morality.
 
Please read the rest of my final post:
 
What is the essence of philosophy ?
 
I will ask a question: Are you feeling my writing ?
 
What are you feeling ?
 
You will notice that i am abstracting to the essentials, and i am
also knowing the essence of different things to be able to know
and to comprehend, this is also the goal of philosophy, philosophy
uses mostly "rationality" and some "knowledge" to be able to know and to
comprehend like science. This is what we call philosophy.
 
I have just corrected some of my typos, and here is my final corrected
post about some of my views about my political philosophy:
 
What is the essence of abstraction ?
 
It is a good question in philosophy..
 
I think the essence of abstraction is that we are also abstracting
to be able to conceptualize, abstraction is abstracting to the
essentials, it is like abstracting to the priorities, because also you
have to prioritize to be able to succeed, for example i am a more
serious programmer, and when you are doing the conception in computer
programming, you are calling the process of abstraction to be able to
conceptualize, and the process of abstraction do help us also to agree
on the fondamentals of efficient morality to be able to transcend our
living conditions, because what is also the goal of efficient morality
today? it is also to abstract to the fondamentals or to the essentials
that permit us to transcend nationalism, because we have to be frank
that nationalism is not well tuned to be capable of governing the world,
this is why you have to transcend with an efficient morality that is
capable of governing our world, because our world needs it, because we
have to be smarter than past ideologies and be capable to manage
ourselves and manage and govern our world.
 
About an important fact about the essence of communism
 
You have to know more communism to talk about it, and to know
communism you must know more philosophy and political philosophy,
i mean that you have to be capable of thinking like in philosophy,
but what is the essence of philosophy? what is the goal of philosophy ?
the goal of real philosophy is like the goal of science, science is
also to know and to comprehend about the essence of the parts of our
intellectual world and empirical world, the goal of real philosophy is
also to know and to comprehend, so it has the same essence as science..
i mean you can not set the standard of quality of philosophy as just
simply talking , i mean the standard of quality of philosophy must be
much higher, this is why the goal of philosophy has to be also like
science: to know and to comprehend ! so now ladies and gentlemen, what
is the essence of communism? i think one of the most important
charcteristic of communism is also that it has tried to transcend
nationalism towards a better world, because nationalism is more inferior
thinking that is not as capable as efficient morality
to transcend our living conditions towards a better world, this is why
efficient morality comes to the rescue and dictates to maximize
performance and to maximize reliability, and to do so, you can not be
inferior thinking of nazism that maximizes efficiency without taking
into account correctly guidance of moral that is inherent to almost all
of us and that doesn't take into account reliability correctly because
it is too much violence that is too extreme in maximizing efficiency.
 
Please read the rest to understand better my views on what must be
efficient morality:
 
Futility of nazism and neo-nazism..
 
Nazism and neo-nazism are childish in that they want violently to
maximize efficiency, this is the essence of nazism , it wants also
to maximize efficiency even using violence, so we can not be confident
with nazism and neo-nazism because they are like childish ideologies
because they are not thought correctly.
 
You have to know about efficient morality, i have said that efficient
morality is performance and reliability, and morality is composed of
a priori pure moral inferred from reason and empirical moral inferred
from experience, but that's not so efficient because we have to include
what i called "guidance of moral": like happiness and tolerance that is
inherent to almost all of us, i think that this guidance of moral is a
prerequisite to counter nazism and neo-nazism, because nazism says to
maximize efficiency even with violence, but since guidance of moral that
is inherent to us and a priori pure moral that takes into account
reliability says that this act of nazism that maximize efficiency even
with violence that it is an extremism that is too violent, because
reliability sees this act of nazism as being too violent that causes
violence, and guidance of moral that is inherent to almost all of us
sees this act of nazism as being not acceptable , so nazism and
neo-nazism is out of question and they are not accepted by efficient
morality.
 
 
Read the rest to understand more:
 
The essence of Nazism..
 
So what is the essence of Nazism ?
 
When we become smart we have to find the shortest path to the solution,
here it is:
 
Nazism is also racism, but this racism of nazism is a violent racism
that maximizes efficiency, and this racism that maximizes efficiency is
a racism towards others that are not us, and it is a violent racism
towards us, this is why nazism has tried to exterminate handicaped
people, but you have to be careful with nazism because it tries also to
exterminate the weak members to maximize efficiency, this is inherent to
nazism, so imagine that we are attaining
general artificial intelligence, so nazism can say by maximizing efficiency
to exterminate humans that are not needed for a best efficiency,
this is why nazism or neo-nazism is violent and dangerous.
 
 
The essence of communism
 
Communism has thought itself to be a correct morality, but that was the
past, And this past has the characteristic of intellectual inferiority
inherent to it, so all in all we have to be conscious about it and we
have to be more responsability towards morality, am i a communist by
saying so ? no, i want to be efficient morality, and efficient morality
is a set that includes many disciplines such as politics, morality has
to be defined more clearly and more precisely, if
we define morality as being just the principles etc. and not including
the application of those principles as a necessity, we are falling short
and we are not defining morality correctly, because we have to enlarge
our view of morality and it has to be defined as an efficient morality
that knows how to govern and that knows best, and to know how to govern
and to know best you have to set the standard of quality of morality
at a higher level , and it is then now clear that a higher standard of
morality has to include a higher level of quality of rationality and
logical reasoning and has to include science and technical fields as a
prerequisite to be able to make morality an efficient morality, so then
can we call also this high level of quality such as science and
technical fields as part of efficient morality? i think yes because
applying efficient morality needs science and technical fields , so
because it needs them, so science and technical fields are part of the
set of efficient morality, and talking about efficient morality i have
said the following:
 
I have defined efficient morality as being: Performance and reliability.
 
But is it a correct definition?
 
Because morality is all about what is bad and what is good, so
what is bad is like a bug that causes the system to be bad, so
if it is bad, it is like a bug that makes the system not reliable, this
is why i have said that efficient morality is Performance and reliability.
 
Please read the rest of my post to understand better:
 
I will get into political philosophy..
 
Here is my new post about the essence of a group and how it's related
to the general morality..
 
I will first remember you about my last writing about the essence
of humanity:
 
And what is the essence of humanity ?
 
This is a good question in political philosophy.
 
When you will become more smart you will know how to answer this
question, and when you will become smarter you will try to find fast the
shortest path to the solution, so to be able to find the shortest path
to the solution of the above question, you have to transform the
question on a similar question, and the similar question is: what is the
important ingredients that describe what is the essence of humanity? it
is how you will answer the above question, so what is those important
ingredients ?
 
I think the ingredients are:
 
Perfection and Strongness.
 
The essence of humanity is that we are becoming more perfection and at
the same time we are becoming more Strong and at the same time we are
becoming more organized and less disorganized.
 
 
This is the essence of humanity, we are becoming more perfection.
 
 
And this brings also hope.
 
 
I have explained that the essence of a human and the essence of humanity
is perfection.
 
Am i stupid to say that ?
 
If you have noticed i have said that we can not content ourselves with
"nothing", we must evolve from nothing to more perfection to better
survive etc.
 
So human is composed of body and culture or spirit or what's in the
brain of a human, but the body was constrained by the constrains of
nature to be more "perfection", this is why perfection is its essence
also, and the body must organize from not moving into moving and that's
"perfection" also, and the spirit of a human or culture of a human or
what's in the brain of a human evolve from nothing to something better
to be able to do something to survive etc. and this is
what we call "perfection", so human being and humanity is constructed
and guided by the essence of humanity that is perfection, and better we
can say that the essence of human and humanity is perfection.
 
Now here is my new post about the essence of a group and how it's
related to the general morality:
 
Now i have explained that the essence of humanity is "Perfection" and
also Strongness, and perfection and strongness is also the essence of a
group, because we are also grouping together into different groups to be
more perfection and more strong, but this essence of humanity that is
Perfection and strongness
must adhere to the general morality that must be an efficient morality,
but if it is not in accordance with the general morality, we must
enforce also general morality by laws, it is why we are managing our
societies by laws.
 
But what is also an efficient morality ?
 
About the essence of communism
 
You have not to fear communism, because empirical moral does constrain
it, it is like a general mathematical proof, communism must adhere
to optimization , because optimization is efficient morality, and
efficient morality is Liberty, and corruption of morality must
be measured by optimization itself that knows how to be optimization,
communism is finally being more conscious of itself, because
it is also more conscious of empirical moral.
 
What is the essence of philosophy ?
 
It is a very important question:
 
So we have to be smartness to answer this question:
 
Efficient morality is optimization and it is Liberty.
 
Philosophy is a magical word , like Liberty.
 
It is a generalization, it is like a general mathematical proof,
this is the essence of philosophy, philosophy must be efficient
morality, because it is a generalization, the word Philosophy is like
the King, it must adhere to the act of optimization, and optimization
is performance and reliability, now the essence of philosophy is more
clear and it shows that the essence of Beauty and the essence of
Happiness are the same , they are generalizations that
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