Saturday, December 5, 2020

Digest for comp.lang.c++@googlegroups.com - 13 updates in 6 topics

Mr Flibble <flibble@i42.REMOVETHISBIT.co.uk>: Dec 05 04:19PM

Hi!
 
neoGFX (C++) Design Studio Demo (Widget Selection / Positioning - Dark Theme / Default Font):
 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=blJRkEGcEkk
 
/Flibble
 
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"Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com>: Dec 05 12:33PM -0500

On 12/5/20 11:19 AM, Mr Flibble wrote:
> neoGFX (C++) Design Studio Demo (Widget Selection / Positioning - Dark
> Theme / Default Font):
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=blJRkEGcEkk
 
"Looking good, Billy Ray."
"Feeling good, Lewis."
 
Two thumbs up.
 
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"Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com>: Dec 05 12:36PM -0500

On 12/5/20 11:19 AM, Mr Flibble wrote:
> neoGFX (C++) Design Studio Demo (Widget Selection / Positioning - Dark
> Theme / Default Font):
 
Would you help me with some Open GL questions, Leigh?
 
I am working on an Open GL project, and you have solved one of the
issues I have in my project.
 
I could benefit from your superior coding knowledge.
 
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Mr Flibble <flibble@i42.REMOVETHISBIT.co.uk>: Dec 05 08:53PM

On 05/12/2020 17:36, Rick C. Hodgin wrote:
 
> Would you help me with some Open GL questions, Leigh?
 
> I am working on an Open GL project, and you have solved one of the issues I have in my project.
 
> I could benefit from your superior coding knowledge.
 
Only if you renounce Christian fucktardary and stop spamming this newsgroup with same.
 
/Flibble
 
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"Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com>: Dec 05 06:09PM -0500

On 12/5/20 3:53 PM, Mr Flibble wrote:
>> Would you help me with some Open GL questions, Leigh?
 
> Only if you renounce Christian ..tardary and stop spamming this
> newsgroup with same.
 
Do you realize that you spam this newsgroup with your obscene version of
atheism? How do you think the people here feel about you writing
consistently with such vulgarity?
 
I will say this: I love you, Leigh. Jesus loves you. You are loved.
 
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Rick C. Hodgin
Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com>: Dec 03 07:22PM -0800

>> questions with courtesy and respect I don't see why I
>> should feel obliged to do so for yours.
 
> It wasn't "just a question", Tim. It was rude and insulting.
 
I'm sorry if it came across that way. It was meant to
be just a question.
Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com>: Dec 03 08:56PM -0800


>> It wasn't "just a question", Tim. It was rude and insulting.
 
> I'm sorry if it came across that way. It was meant to
> be just a question.
 
Given the context, I don't believe you.
 
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Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com>: Dec 04 06:24AM -0800


>> I'm sorry if it came across that way. It was meant to
>> be just a question.
 
> Given the context, I don't believe you.
 
Your recent comments strike me as being rude and insulting. Was
it your intention to be rude and insulting? (That is not meant
as a rhetorical question - I'm asking because I would like to
hear your answer.)
Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com>: Dec 03 07:47PM -0800

> searches might have missed the relevant clause. I love being made to
> sound absolutely certain about something I've explicitly expressed
> doubts about.
 
I assume you are being sarcastic.
 
I didn't include the statement that you might have missed
something because I wasn't responding to that part of your
posting. Besides, a statement that one may have missed something
seems rather superfluous, so including it seems redundant. I
didn't take it out to make you look dumb; I took it out because
it wasn't relevant to what I was saying, which is about where
to look to find the information desired. I'm sorry if it came
across as insulting, that was not my intention.
 
> The reason my text searches didn't find it is that I was looking for
> the phrase "array of length one", which has been replaced by
> "single-element array".
 
The people who have done the editing/writing/formatting for the
C++ standard have made a lot of decisions that make it harder to
read than it could be. One of those decisions is to use fonts
that are too small for the medium in which they appear. When I
read the C++ standard, I often crank up the magnification a step
or two to help with this problem. Another trick I use: when
looking at a particular page I (try to) always read the footnotes
on the page whether or not they look relevant to the passage I
was looking for. In the C++ standard in particular the side
material often contains useful information that is hard to find
in the main text, so "looking sideways" as it were in many cases
turns up something helpful or useful, even if not always directly
related to what is being sought at the moment.
olcott <NoOne@NoWhere.com>: Dec 05 10:55AM -0600

On 12/5/2020 7:58 AM, Malcolm McLean wrote:
> Linz challenge could be met.
 
> In a sense. Of course it is a cheat. But it's a new cheat, and that's all that
> any sensible person would ever have expected from these threads.
 
This is not any sort of a cheat what-so-ever it is a direct refutation
of the Peter Linz halting problem undecidability proof:
 
void H_Hat(u32 P)
{
u32 Input_Halts = H(P, P);
if (Input_Halts)
HERE: goto HERE;
else
HALT
}
 
int main()
{
Input_Halts = H((u32)H_Hat, (u32)H_Hat);
Output("H_Hat(H_Hat) Halts =", Input_Halts);
HALT;
}
 
Linz, Peter 1990. An Introduction to Formal Languages and Automata.
Lexington/Toronto: D. C. Heath and Company.
 
http://www.liarparadox.org/Peter_Linz_HP(Pages_315-320).pdf
 
 
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minds." Einstein
"Öö Tiib" <ootiib@hot.ee>: Dec 04 03:45PM -0800

On Friday, 4 December 2020 at 22:59:38 UTC+2, Vir Campestris wrote:
> Yes, but why?
 
> I want to have operators for internal data types within a class whose
> behaviour varies depending on the class.
 
Can you post brief example of what you want to do and why
non-member operators can not help?
Bonita Montero <Bonita.Montero@gmail.com>: Dec 05 08:51AM +0100

>> 2. With external operators you can attach semantics to a class like
>>     if you would have defined a member-operator.
 
> Yes, but why?
 
Because the operators are symmetrical if you define them externally.
Defined internally only the right part can be a non-descendant which
is converted to the proper type.
"Öö Tiib" <ootiib@hot.ee>: Dec 04 03:26PM -0800

> This is what I've come up with to address the UB:
> https://github.com/Ebenezer-group/onwards/commit/ed35386a1732a193638ba49648300cfce106edfe
 
> Does it look like an improvement? Tia.
 
Yes. There are no placement new that you originally asked about
so problem solved?
 
You seem to indent some lines with tabs and some lines with
spaces. That sometimes makes code to look odd in some tools
but if you do not use such tools then it does not matter.
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