Sunday, December 20, 2020

Digest for comp.lang.c++@googlegroups.com - 14 updates in 2 topics

Mr Flibble <flibble@i42.REMOVETHISBIT.co.uk>: Dec 19 11:37PM

On 19/12/2020 23:10, Rick C. Hodgin wrote:
 
> Losing.  What does that word really mean, Leigh, from the eternal perspective?
 
> -----
> Let's see what happens to people who die in their sin, and let's consider what real loss is:
 
[snip - tl;dr]
 
And Satan invented fossils, yes?
 
/Flibble
 
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Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com>: Dec 19 05:00PM -0800

> On Saturday, 19 December 2020 at 08:38:48 UTC+2, Melzzzzz wrote:
>> On 2020-12-19, Rick C. Hodgin <rick.c...@gmail.com> wrote:
[SNIP]
 
Please don't help Rick in his efforts to spam this newsgroup.
 
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Working, but not speaking, for Philips Healthcare
void Void(void) { Void(); } /* The recursive call of the void */
"Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com>: Dec 19 06:00PM -0800

On 12/19/2020 5:00 PM, Keith Thompson wrote:
>>> On 2020-12-19, Rick C. Hodgin <rick.c...@gmail.com> wrote:
> [SNIP]
 
> Please don't help Rick in his efforts to spam this newsgroup.
 
Well, imvvvvho, this is under the header [Jesus Loves You], so its
rather easy to filter?
"Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com>: Dec 19 06:12PM -0800

On 12/19/2020 11:35 AM, Rick C. Hodgin wrote:
 
> When the rapture happens, Melzzzzz, I hope you will go back into your
> quiet place of reflection and contemplation and revisit your prejudice
> and hatred of God.
 
[...]
 
Iirc, the Bible mentions something akin to: When Jesus comes back to
Earth, it will be as a thief in the night. So, good luck knowing
anything exact. You can say, within the next hundred years, and still
might be wrong. Although, the Bible seems to mention something about a
total one world system _before_ he comes back. Then it mentions
something like.. warning about the first supernatural being to come to
Earth in modern times... They treat/think about humans as nothing more
than containers of genetic material.
Mr Flibble <flibble@i42.REMOVETHISBIT.co.uk>: Dec 20 02:13AM

On 20/12/2020 02:00, Chris M. Thomasson wrote:
>> [SNIP]
 
>> Please don't help Rick in his efforts to spam this newsgroup.
 
> Well, imvvvvho, this is under the header [Jesus Loves You], so its rather easy to filter?
 
Oh the spammer Hodgin would probably see that as a victory .. you putting "Gay Jesus Loves You Up" into one of your configuration files.
 
/Flibble
 
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"Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com>: Dec 19 06:29PM -0800

> On Saturday, December 19, 2020 at 1:35:34 AM UTC-5, Rick C. Hodgin wrote:
 
>> Anything showing up saying it's an alien is, in fact, a demon deceiving you.
 
> What if something shows up saying it's a demon, but in fact it's an alien?
 
I can imagine Mr. Flibble saying the word: sausages! ;^)
Mr Flibble <flibble@i42.REMOVETHISBIT.co.uk>: Dec 20 02:36AM

On 20/12/2020 02:29, Chris M. Thomasson wrote:
 
>>> Anything showing up saying it's an alien is, in  fact, a demon deceiving you.
 
>> What if something shows up saying it's a demon, but in fact it's an alien?
 
> I can imagine Mr. Flibble saying the word: sausages! ;^)
 
There are no aliens in the Red Dwarf universe: only humans, mechanoids and GELFs.
 
Also, sausages.
 
/Flibble
 
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"Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com>: Dec 19 09:55PM -0500

On 12/19/20 9:12 PM, Chris M. Thomasson wrote:
 
> Iirc, the Bible mentions something akin to: When Jesus comes back to
> Earth, it will be as a thief in the night. So, good luck knowing
> anything exact.
 
The Bible says He will come as a thief in the night for those who are
not looking for Him. For those who are waiting His appearance they will
see the signs He described and know the season, not the exact day or hour.
 
> Although, the Bible seems to mention something about a
> total one world system _before_ he comes back.
 
The one world government will be during the seven-year great
tribulation. The anti-Christ will come onto the scene and everybody
who's deceived by lies and not seeking after the truth will swoon after
this man. He will cause everyone world-wide, small and great, rich and
poor, to take the mark. That will be the one-world system. It will be
one of dominance and forced compliance, or total ousting where you
cannot buy or sell, cannot feed your family, cannot have a home, cannot
live in any conventional modern sense in our societies, without taking
the mark.
 
> something like.. warning about the first supernatural being to come to
> Earth in modern times... They treat/think about humans as nothing more
> than containers of genetic material.
 
They have quantum dot tattoos that have special ink in them that a cell
phone light or scanner could indicate, but is not publicly visible
without the scanning beam.
 
It will likely be that mark. And there will likely be a series of
different viruses that come out, and you must have the vaccines for each
of them.
 
DO NOT TAKE THE MARK, whatever it is.
 
Literally everyone who takes that mark cannot be redeemed. They
literally, by that one act, completely forfeit their eternal soul and
will spend eternity in the lake of fire.
 
You can read all about this in Revelation. And about the coming of our
Lord in Matthew 24 (they didn't yet know about the rapture because it
was not revealed until Paul's first epistle 1 Thessalonians). In there,
Paul reveals the mystery of the rapture.
 
In any event, it's all there for anyone who seeks to know the truth. It
will all lead you to Christ and salvation. The people who pursue these
things will not be overtaken by Jesus when He comes unexpectedly (for
the people in the world), but expectedly for those who are watching for
Him. Remember, Jesus said it would be as it was in the days of Noah at
His return. People were living their lives unaware of what's coming.
But Noah and his family knew, and they boarded the ark BEFORE it started
raining. There's also the parable of the ten virgins, five were foolish
and weren't ready, and five were wise and were ready. When the call
rang out at the midnight hour, the five wise virgins grabbed their lamps
and left, but the five foolish were left behind.
 
Jesus has revealed everything sufficiently for those who are willing to
search out the scriptures and seek the truth. Everything we need to
know to be saved, and to lead others to salvation is there.
 
Only those who purposefully turn away from the truth, who have
purposefully rejected Jesus, who have purposefully went their own way of
rebellion in whatever form that is, only they will be deceived.
 
--
Rick C. Hodgin
"Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com>: Dec 19 07:10PM -0800

On 12/19/2020 6:36 PM, Mr Flibble wrote:
 
> There are no aliens in the Red Dwarf universe: only humans, mechanoids
> and GELFs.
 
> Also, sausages.
 
;^D
"daniel...@gmail.com" <danielaparker@gmail.com>: Dec 19 08:01PM -0800

On Saturday, December 19, 2020 at 1:26:26 AM UTC-5, Rick C. Hodgin wrote:
 
> don't make our physics engine take billions of years before seeing stars
> that are, in our game, billions of light years away. Instead, the game
> is able to see them immediately.
 
This is a very good analogy. Taking it further, when we create a 3D game,
I don't think we care whether the characters in the game "worship" us,
I think it would be a matter of supreme indifference to us if they did.
The purpose of the game is entertainment, our entertainment.
 
> created properly at all points across this vast universe, with all
> attributes of everything in its created position, being intended for and
> presented to all other places system-wide.
 
Have you considered the possibility that god(s) created the universe
solely for their entertainment? That would at least answer the theological
problem of the existence of evil.
 
Daniel
Jorgen Grahn <grahn+nntp@snipabacken.se>: Dec 20 08:01AM

On Sun, 2020-12-20, Chris M. Thomasson wrote:
 
>> Please don't help Rick in his efforts to spam this newsgroup.
 
> Well, imvvvvho, this is under the header [Jesus Loves You], so its
> rather easy to filter?
 
There's already a header for that. It's called "Newsgroups:".
If you want to post nonsense, please remove comp.lang.c++ from
that header.
 
/Jorgen
 
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Juha Nieminen <nospam@thanks.invalid>: Dec 20 08:10AM

> My friends, the time of the rapture is upon us. This week, next week,
> this month, next month, this year, next year ... it's here.
 
Some old fart trolls the news media with some made-up ufo stories,
there's political bickering, and a virus pandemic. Therefore, rather
obviously, the rapture is upon us.
 
Yes, great logic. Clearly one thing follows from the others.
 
It's not like there has never been any political bickering, any
pandemics nor any sensationalistic fake news in the past. This is
the very first time in human history, and that must mean that
the rapture will be here any day now.
"Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com>: Dec 20 01:51PM -0500

Why do I post these messages? Here to comp.lang.c++?
 
Not everybody goes to church.
Not everybody visits "religious" forums.
Not everybody is exposed to knowledge of Jesus in their work or school
or home life.
 
Jesus cares about everybody. His love for you lives in me, and I care
about you.
 
Jesus teaches that Hell is real. That judgment is coming. His life
testifies that He came here to take away that judgment, so none of us
have to see Hell.
 
I reach out to each of you with love in my heart so that you too can
escape that judgment.
 
It is for love I post these messages. My love of you, which is His love
for you living inside of me bearing fruit.
 
--
Rick C. Hodgin
 
 
On 12/18/20 7:43 PM, Rick C. Hodgin wrote:
olcott <NoOne@NoWhere.com>: Dec 19 05:40PM -0600

On 12/19/2020 4:32 PM, Kaz Kylheku wrote:
>> means that Halts() is a decider for this input.
 
> No, it means that Halts is not a pure function of two immutable
> arguments, but some kind of swindle.
 
bool Halts(u32 P, u32 I)
{
static u32* local_execution_trace_list;
bool Halted = false;
bool Aborted = false;
while (!Halted && !Aborted)
{
// EIP points to the next instruction to be simulated
PushBack(local_execution_trace_list, EIP);
Halted = DebugStep(P, I);
if (!Halted)
Aborted = Needs_To_Be_Aborted(local_execution_trace_list);
}
return !Aborted;
}
 
Purely functional programming consists of ensuring that functions,
inside the functional paradigm, will only depend on their arguments,
regardless of any global or local state.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Purely_functional_programming
 
I think that it would seem to be OK for it to dynamically construct an
internal state as the basis for returning its value as long as it would
always dynamically construct this internal state exactly the same way
for the exact same inputs.
 
In other words when there is a unique immutable mathematical mapping
from the inputs to the constructed internal state to the return value
then the function still corresponds to a mathematical function.
 
The portion that decides not-halting:
Aborted = Needs_To_Be_Aborted(local_execution_trace_list);
is a pure function of its inputs.
 
The portion that provides these inputs to the not-halting decider
requires keeping track of the sequence of instructions that it has
simulated.
 
--
Copyright 2020 Pete Olcott
 
"Great spirits have always encountered violent opposition from mediocre
minds." Einstein
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