Thursday, December 3, 2020

Digest for comp.lang.c++@googlegroups.com - 4 updates in 3 topics

olcott <NoOne@NoWhere.com>: Dec 03 12:32PM -0600

On 12/3/2020 12:18 PM, Kaz Kylheku wrote:
> is on you to hunt down the specific pieces literature that you wish to
> target, read all of them, and determine what issues are present in which
> piece.
 
It seems then that your assessment of the significance of my work is
based on "shooting from the hip" rather any degree of academic rigor.
 
At least (unlike everyone else) when a clear proof is presented you give
a straight up honest assessment and do not resort to any degree of
dishonestly and subterfuge.
 
I really really, appreciate that. Your review was the threshold that I
was waiting for before I move on to the next level of review. I had to
make sure that my words could be understood before I could proceed.
 
I did apparently at least correctly refute the Linz proof. That by
itself would qualify for publication somewhere.
 
Dishonesty and subterfuge:
Ben even claimed that the difference between two literally identical
programs was so great that it is dishonest of me to call them by the
same name.
 
On 11/30/2020 7:40 PM, Ben Bacarisse wrote:
> void Confound_Halts(u32 P) { if (Halts(P, P)) while (1); }
 
void Confound_Halts(u32 P)
{
if (DebugTrace(P, P))
while (1);
}
 
On 12/2/2020 8:15 PM, Ben Bacarisse wrote:
 
--
Copyright 2020 Pete Olcott
 
"Great spirits have always encountered violent opposition from mediocre
minds." Einstein
Brian Wood <woodbrian77@gmail.com>: Dec 03 09:40AM -0800

On Thursday, November 7, 2019 at 3:34:00 PM UTC-6, Jorgen Grahn wrote:
> the right place. And it's what the RFC uses in its examples (although
> it doesn't say anything about that being normative).
> /Jorgen
 
This man page:
https://www.man7.org/linux/man-pages/man7/sctp.7.html
 
says netinet/sctp.h, but on my Linux Mint system, the file
is still at linux/sctp.h. The biggest wart in my middle tier is
courtesy of Linux.
 
 
Brian
Ebenezer Enterprises - Enjoying programming again.
https://github.com/Ebenezer-group/onwards
Brian Wood <woodbrian77@gmail.com>: Dec 03 09:40AM -0800

On Thursday, November 7, 2019 at 3:34:00 PM UTC-6, Jorgen Grahn wrote:
> the right place. And it's what the RFC uses in its examples (although
> it doesn't say anything about that being normative).
> /Jorgen
 
This man page:
https://www.man7.org/linux/man-pages/man7/sctp.7.html
 
says netinet/sctp.h, but on my Linux Mint system, the file
is still at linux/sctp.h. The biggest wart in my middle tier is
courtesy of Linux.
 
 
Brian
Ebenezer Enterprises - Enjoying programming again.
https://github.com/Ebenezer-group/onwards
olcott <NoOne@NoWhere.com>: Dec 03 08:42AM -0600

On 12/3/2020 1:32 AM, Chris M. Thomasson wrote:
> That is a bold achievement. Imvho, it involves some very interesting
> attributes. Or, perhaps I am misunderstanding him.
 
> Can his system run a black box? An unknown program?
 
 
Ĥ.q0 wM ⊢* Ĥ.qx wM wM ⊢* Ĥ.qy ∞
Ĥ.q0 wM ⊢* Ĥ.qx wM wM ⊢* Ĥ.qn
 
http://www.liarparadox.org/Peter_Linz_HP(Pages_315-320).pdf
 
Linz, Peter 1990. An Introduction to Formal Languages and Automata.
Lexington/Toronto: D. C. Heath and Company.
 
x86 language ≡ von Neumann architecture ≡ UTM ≡ RASP Machine
 
Apparently I have correctly refuted the Peter Linz halting problem proof
by finding a way to correctly decide the x86 computational equivalent of
the Linz Ĥ.
 
void H_Hat(u32 P)
{
u32 Aborted = H(P, P);
if (Aborted)
HALT
else
HERE: goto HERE;
}
 
 
int main()
{
H((u32)H_Hat, (u32)H_Hat);
HALT;
}
 
 
_H_Hat()
[00000584](01) 55 push ebp
[00000585](02) 8bec mov ebp,esp
[00000587](01) 51 push ecx
[00000588](03) 8b4508 mov eax,[ebp+08]
[0000058b](01) 50 push eax
[0000058c](03) 8b4d08 mov ecx,[ebp+08]
[0000058f](01) 51 push ecx
[00000590](05) e8bffdffff call 00000354
[00000595](03) 83c408 add esp,+08
[00000598](03) 8945fc mov [ebp-04],eax
[0000059b](04) 837dfc00 cmp dword [ebp-04],+00
[0000059f](02) 7403 jz 000005a4
[000005a1](01) f4 hlt
[000005a2](02) eb02 jmp 000005a6
[000005a4](02) ebfe jmp 000005a4
[000005a6](02) 8be5 mov esp,ebp
[000005a8](01) 5d pop ebp
[000005a9](01) c3 ret
 
 
 
_main()
[000005b4](01) 55 push ebp
[000005b5](02) 8bec mov ebp,esp
[000005b7](05) 6884050000 push 00000584
[000005bc](05) 6884050000 push 00000584
[000005c1](05) e88efdffff call 00000354
[000005c6](03) 83c408 add esp,+08
[000005c9](01) f4 hlt
[000005ca](01) 5d pop ebp
[000005cb](01) c3 ret
 
 
Output_Debug_Trace() [00010bd3] size(80) capacity(65536)
[000005b4](01) 55 push ebp
[000005b5](02) 8bec mov ebp,esp
[000005b7](05) 6884050000 push 00000584
[000005bc](05) 6884050000 push 00000584
[000005c1](05) e88efdffff call 00000354 ----CALL [00000354]
[00000584](01) 55 push ebp
[00000585](02) 8bec mov ebp,esp
[00000587](01) 51 push ecx
[00000588](03) 8b4508 mov eax,[ebp+08]
[0000058b](01) 50 push eax
[0000058c](03) 8b4d08 mov ecx,[ebp+08]
[0000058f](01) 51 push ecx
[00000590](05) e8bffdffff call 00000354 ----CALL [00000354]
[00000584](01) 55 push ebp
[00000585](02) 8bec mov ebp,esp
[00000587](01) 51 push ecx
[00000588](03) 8b4508 mov eax,[ebp+08]
[0000058b](01) 50 push eax
[0000058c](03) 8b4d08 mov ecx,[ebp+08]
[0000058f](01) 51 push ecx
[00000590](05) e8bffdffff call 00000354 ----CALL [00000354]
The PRIOR Instruction Specifies Infinite Recursion: Simulation Stopped:
 
 
--
Copyright 2020 Pete Olcott
 
"Great spirits have always encountered violent opposition from mediocre
minds." Einstein
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