| Mr Flibble <flibbleREMOVETHISBIT@i42.co.uk>: Sep 17 12:29AM +0100 On 17/09/2018 00:23, Rick C. Hodgin wrote: > to the person through whom they come! ..." > Care about yourself and your future. Learn the truth right- > ly before you open your mouth and teach. Fuck off you egregious homophobic misogynistic bigoted cunt. *Hears applause* I thank you. /Flibble -- "Suppose it's all true, and you walk up to the pearly gates, and are confronted by God," Bryne asked on his show The Meaning of Life. "What will Stephen Fry say to him, her, or it?" "I'd say, bone cancer in children? What's that about?" Fry replied. "How dare you? How dare you create a world to which there is such misery that is not our fault. It's not right, it's utterly, utterly evil." "Why should I respect a capricious, mean-minded, stupid God who creates a world that is so full of injustice and pain. That's what I would say." |
| "Öö Tiib" <ootiib@hot.ee>: Sep 16 04:34PM -0700 On Monday, 17 September 2018 01:48:44 UTC+3, Rick C. Hodgin wrote: > > have right to discriminate married gays in U.S. > My point is that God's authority on this matter supersedes > the authority of man. That may be so and I have repeated several times that god is free to express and enforce his will and authority in any way he wants to. You are certainly not god and so your authority is self-proclaimed and non-existent both by law and by your own book (Matthew 7:1). Companies have no right to discriminate gays even if they wanted to. Saying that they have such right is not teaching Jesus. It is teaching bigotry, hatred and lies. > Jesus doesn't call us to discriminate against people, but > He does call us to teach them the truth. Jon Snow to Sansa Stark: What did father use to say? Everything before the word "but" is horse shit. Game of Thrones – Season 7 Episode 1 |
| "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com>: Sep 16 07:55PM -0400 On 09/16/2018 07:34 PM, Öö Tiib wrote: >> the authority of man. > That may be so and I have repeated several times that god is free to > express and enforce his will and authority in any way he wants to. /This is my point/, Öö Tiib. God has /already/ told us what He will do, what He will judge, and He's given us His Son so that we can /escape/ that judgment. Do you not understand this correlation? God is in full control. Every thing a person does in this world will be brought under judgment and scrutiny, /UNLESS/ they come to Jesus and ask forgiveness, in which case they won't be judged for sin, but only given rewards for what they did for the Lord. > You are certainly not god and so your authority is self-proclaimed > and non-existent both by law and by your own book (Matthew 7:1). I do not proclaim any self-authority. What I teach you is that God is the authority, and that you have a full obligation to Him, Öö Tiib. You are accountable to Him and will, upon your death, give a full account of your life. This will include your sin, unless you come to Jesus and ask Him to forgive your sin. This is the important message. Try and consider what I am saying for real. > Companies have no right to discriminate gays even if they wanted > to. Saying that they have such right is not teaching Jesus. It is > teaching bigotry, hatred and lies. You have completely missed the point of my posts. > Jon Snow to Sansa Stark: What did father use to say? Everything before > the word "but" is horse .. . > Game of Thrones – Season 7 Episode 1 Öö Tiib to God on judgment day: "I thought I was right." -- Rick C. Hodgin |
| Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@yahoo.com>: Sep 16 05:55PM -0700 In article <NvOdnbNOvZDIegPGnZ2dnUU7-eOdnZ2d@giganews.com>, > Fuck off you egregious homophobic misogynistic bigoted cunt. Shake the dust of Rick's village from your Birkenstocks. Pax vobiscum. -- :-<> Siri Seal of Disavowal #000-001. Disavowed. Denied. Deleted. @ 'I desire mercy, not sacrifice.' /|\ An almond doesn't lactate. This post / \ Yet another supercilious snowflake for justice. insults Islam. Mohammed |
| "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com>: Sep 16 09:04PM -0400 On 09/16/2018 07:29 PM, Mr Flibble wrote: > .. off you egregious homophobic misogynistic bigoted .. . Leigh, my concern is for your eternal soul. It's not any form of homophobia. One of my co-workers is a gay man. We work on the same project together. He has the office across the hall from my office. He's our main project lead. You misunderstand the purposes of my teachings on homo- sexuality, and indeed all sin. God has revealed what He will judge. No one with un- forgiven sin will escape eternal justice. I teach you this now so you have the opportunity to repent and ask forgiveness today ... because tomorrow may never come. -- Rick C. Hodgin |
| Ian Collins <ian-news@hotmail.com>: Sep 17 05:04PM +1200 On 17/09/18 08:45, Rick C. Hodgin wrote: > wrong, and that his anti-Christ teachings are right. You > embrace his teachings because you are still in rebellion > against God. A pox on you for having the conceit to judge others and for denigrating a victimised minority group. I suppose you subscribe to those fuckwit "gay conversion" therapies. -- Ian. |
| "Chris M. Thomasson" <invalid_chris_thomasson@invalid.invalid>: Sep 16 10:27PM -0700 On 9/16/2018 10:04 PM, Ian Collins wrote: > A pox on you for having the conceit to judge others and for > denigrating a victimised minority group. I suppose you subscribe to > those fuckwit "gay conversion" therapies. https://youtu.be/8qpCyUYRLFM (Butters goes to anti-gay christian camp) |
| Juha Nieminen <nospam@thanks.invalid>: Sep 17 09:19AM > a reference to something voice in a letter, a philosophy by our > Thomas Jefferson, conveying a sentiment that's different than > most people ascribe to it. "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion" means literally and unambiguously that the government must not pass any law that favors one particular religion over others. Having some kind of "state church" or official religion of the state (which was the case, and is still the case, in England and many other European countries) is categorically forbidden. Representatives can be religious themselves, of course (that's their constitutional right), but they must not pass any law favoring their religion. In this way you are completely incorrect in asserting that religion has a place in government, that it "doesn't mean to keep religion out of government." It most definitely does. If the government passes any law that, for example, grants some rights or protections to a religion, that same law must apply to all religions without discrimination. No religion can be considered special and have unique special privileges. |
| Juha Nieminen <nospam@thanks.invalid>: Sep 17 09:26AM >> It's a good thing not to support marriage? Can you elaborate? > Companies are there to make money, not to give their employees > directions about how to live their lives! It's one thing to say that companies should take no stance on such things as marriage. A different thing is to active "not support marriage". When he says that that's a "good decision", it sounds like he's saying that it's good for companies to actively not support marriage. In other words, it sounds like he's saying that it's good if companies oppose marriage. |
| David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no>: Sep 17 11:46AM +0200 On 17/09/18 11:26, Juha Nieminen wrote: >> directions about how to live their lives! > It's one thing to say that companies should take no stance on such things > as marriage. A different thing is to active "not support marriage". There is nothing to indicate that IBM or any other companies "do not support marriage". Brian's complaint about them is that the companies have refused to support groups that campaign /against/ some kinds of marriage - namely, same-sex marriages. I think it is normal for a company to have no interest or stance on marriage - it simply is not part of their business. A company should take care of its employees, and support them and their rights. That means they should not campaign /against/ their right to marriage, but it does not need to have an active stance /for/ those rights unless they are being seriously threatened. Brian's company is apparently actively against some kinds of marriage and against human rights in regard to sexuality, and that must of course be condemned. > he says that that's a "good decision", it sounds like he's saying that > it's good for companies to actively not support marriage. In other words, > it sounds like he's saying that it's good if companies oppose marriage. When Jacob says "good decision", he was being somewhat sarcastic - he meant that it was a "good decision" for Brian to avoid IBM, Southwest Airlines, and everything else. (It is not always easy to communicate and understand the full meaning of posts like these, especially with people coming from different countries, having different cultures and different ways to express things.) |
| "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com>: Sep 17 08:51AM -0400 On 9/17/2018 1:04 AM, Ian Collins wrote: > A pox on you for having the conceit to judge others and for > denigrating a victimised minority group. I suppose you subscribe to those > .. "gay conversion" therapies. You misunderstand, Ian. If you want to know the truth, it is before you. You can receive it. -- Rick C. Hodgin |
| "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com>: Sep 17 08:53AM -0400 On 9/17/2018 5:19 AM, Juha Nieminen wrote: > "state church" or official religion of the state (which was the case, and > is still the case, in England and many other European countries) is > categorically forbidden. Agreed. > Representatives can be religious themselves, of course (that's their > constitutional right), but they must not pass any law favoring their > religion. Correct. > In this way you are completely incorrect in asserting that > religion has a place in government, that it "doesn't mean to keep > religion out of government." It most definitely does. Wrong. It means you cannot pass a law upholding the Christian Bible, or saying that we should all be Catholics. What it does mean is that a highly religious person can enter into office and propose laws one after the other which align with religious values (such as making abortion illegal, or making it illegal to get a divorce, or other such thing). They just cannot ascribe it in the law to a religion. It must have its own unique wording. > or protections to a religion, that same law must apply to all religions > without discrimination. No religion can be considered special and have > unique special privileges. Correct. -- Rick C. Hodgin |
| "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com>: Sep 17 08:58AM -0400 On 9/17/2018 5:26 AM, Juha Nieminen wrote: >>>>> (one man + one woman) so I avoid these companies. >>>> Yes, good decision. Avoid everything then. >>> It's a good thing not to support marriage? Can you elaborate? It's a good thing to support the definition of marriage being between one man and one woman, which is the type of marriage God decreed. It is a good thing to /NOT/ support homosexual marriage, because God has called homosexuality an abomination, and explicitly listed it as a sin in the New Testament which literally keeps one out of Heaven. It is for the sake of the eternal souls of the individuals who are deceived by the enemy that rises to the top of our concern list, not trying to prevent people from having full, rich, happy, productive lives with love abounding. It is that we teach people that the love abounding must be of a godly form, meaning prescribed by God, and not simply given to us as an option, and especially one given to us by God's enemy (Satan, the anti-Christ) who purposefully twists the things which exist to do harm to people, and to go against God's guidance. Brian's position about leaving the company was on principle, upholding God in his life, and shunning worldliness that would force him to compromise. > he says that that's a "good decision", it sounds like he's saying that > it's good for companies to actively not support marriage. In other words, > it sounds like he's saying that it's good if companies oppose marriage. It's good to work for a company that has Christian values, and will come together in agreement when there are issues like this which arise. A company can be forced into compliance by a law, while still actively seeking to get that law repealed, for example. If the entirety of the company is moving in that same direction, it makes it easier on everybody. -- Rick C. Hodgin |
| David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no>: Sep 17 04:02PM +0200 On 17/09/18 14:58, Rick C. Hodgin wrote: > because God has called homosexuality an abomination, and > explicitly listed it as a sin in the New Testament which > literally keeps one out of Heaven. You can make a personal decision like that if you want - but you can't push it on other people. If you want to believe that homosexuals are second-class citizens and are should not be allowed to be themselves and they are not entitled to the same kind of happiness and family life as others, you can believe that. But it is /not/ a good thing to go about spreading such a message of hate and prejudice. Depending on how you do it, it might be legal and it might not be - there is a balance between your right to freedom of speech and other people's right not to hear hate speech. However, a /company/ certainly cannot take such an attitude. Companies are legal entities, not moral or religious ones. (I don't care if you think that is right or wrong - this is simple fact. Similarly, I don't care if you think the laws involved are right or wrong - they are still the law.) Companies don't get to break laws against discrimination. They don't get to say "no blacks allowed", or "only men can program properly", and they don't get to say "homosexuals shouldn't have rights like heterosexuals". Equally, companies do not have to /actively/ support any particular laws or human rights - they just have to avoid breaking them. A company can choose to say "we welcome all married people, same-sex or different-sex" or they can choose to say "your love life is your own business" - they just can't say "we welcome all married people as long as they are heterosexual". As a person, you can of course make your choices. And you can choose to leave a company because they are actively supportive of heterosexuals' rights and you are a bigot with a different set of morals. Such freedoms are important for people, even when it is the freedom to be ignorant and hateful. > It's good to work for a company that has Christian values, and > will come together in agreement when there are issues like this > which arise. There is nothing wrong with basic Christian values. Homophobia and bigotry are /not/ Christian values - if you think that condemning people who love each other is commanded by the Bible, you should read it again. Try reading about Jesus and what he said, did and thought - rather than obsessing about ancient rules squeezed in between a ban on oysters and when to stone kids for being rude. > actively seeking to get that law repealed, for example. If > the entirety of the company is moving in that same direction, > it makes it easier on everybody. Fortunately, most people and most companies are moving in the direction of being caring and compassionate people, or at the very least towards "what you do at home between consenting adults is your own business". Misguided moral police as a way of controlling society is on the way out. |
| "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com>: Sep 17 10:06AM -0400 On 9/17/2018 10:02 AM, David Brown wrote: >> literally keeps one out of Heaven. > You can make a personal decision like that if you want - but you can't > push it on other people. It is the guidance of God I am conveying, not my personal opinion. It is the /TEACHING/ I am giving you that you /WILL BE JUDGED/ by God after you leave this world, and unless you accept /HIM AND HIS GUIDANCE/, then you will perish in your sin. Your issues is with God, David, not me. I am teaching you those things God commanded us Christians to teach other people. -- Rick C. Hodgin |
| scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal): Sep 17 02:12PM >> God is not legal subject >He is the source of all our true and fundamental laws, Öö >Tiib. He's a figment of your imagination. Please don't force your insanity on others. |
| David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no>: Sep 17 04:26PM +0200 On 17/09/18 16:06, Rick C. Hodgin wrote: >> You can make a personal decision like that if you want - but you can't >> push it on other people. > It is the guidance of God I am conveying, not my personal opinion. Of course it is your personal opinion. And it is your personal opinion that this somehow all comes from divine sources - but that is /your/ opinion. Other people have different opinions - including others who believe in god. They just don't share your particular interpretation of the Bible or Christianity. > It is the /TEACHING/ I am giving you that you /WILL BE JUDGED/ by > God after you leave this world, and unless you accept /HIM AND HIS > GUIDANCE/, then you will perish in your sin. You've already told us how we are all to blame for sin because someone long ago stole an apple - and you god, in his "mercy" and "justice", decided to punish everyone thereafter to eternal damnation. Some people might say that is overreacting a little, but I guess your opinion differs there too. > Your issues is with God, David, not me. I am teaching you those > things God commanded us Christians to teach other people. I have no issues with god - just as I have no issues with the monsters under my bed. It is /you/ that has declared battle on everyone around you. And no matter how you often you shout it, you are not teaching anything. It does not cease to amaze me how blind you are in this. What good do you think you are doing here? Surely by now you realise that the more you rant, the less likely it is that anyone will take you seriously? Anyone who is in the position of being "open" or "searching" who happens to hear you will be turned off immediately - no sane person would want to be associated with your kind of cult. (And I know many sane and smart people who are Christians - they are just not /your/ kind of pseudo-Christian.) |
| "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com>: Sep 17 10:33AM -0400 On 9/17/2018 10:26 AM, David Brown wrote: >>> push it on other people. >> It is the guidance of God I am conveying, not my personal opinion. > Of course it is your personal opinion... I hold this position because over time I learned from God what it means. Homosexuality is a sin. It results in the eternal death of a human soul in Hellfire forever. It is something God commands us to teach against because He wants people saved. And I, having come to under- stand who God is and what that all means ... I also hold that position. However, this position did not /ORIGINATE/ from me, David. It was something I first learned from God, thought about, and have received with gladness and joy because I know God, trust God, and love God. -- Rick C. Hodgin |
| bitrex <user@example.net>: Sep 17 12:25PM -0400 On 09/17/2018 05:19 AM, Juha Nieminen wrote: > or protections to a religion, that same law must apply to all religions > without discrimination. No religion can be considered special and have > unique special privileges. It's easy to imagine some strongly religious nation with a gorgeous temple (or numerous temples) paid for by devoted taxpayers where the wealthy and powerful rulers of heathen nations are regularly entertained, and thousands of bureaucrats, scholars, and legal experts work in the service of enforcing a complex system of religious laws, some rather sensible and some utterly draconian, and long lists of prohibitions where behavior is scrutinized, analyzed, and punishments enforced by Earthly judges in the service of God's will. and which is otherwise spiritually dead. Judea in 4 BC comes to mind. |
| David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no>: Sep 17 10:32PM +0200 On 17/09/18 16:33, Rick C. Hodgin wrote: >> Of course it is your personal opinion... > I hold this position because over time I learned from God what it > means. In other words, it is your personal opinion. It is formed by your faith, not independent fact. > soul in Hellfire forever. It is something God commands us to teach > against because He wants people saved. And I, having come to under- > stand who God is and what that all means ... I also hold that position. Homosexuality is normal. It is normal in many birds and animals - surely you are not saying they also are condemned by sin? It is normal in humans - it is normal to have attraction to both genders, usually with a strong preference for one gender but usually not an absolute preference. And for homosexuals, attraction to the same gender is /normal/ for them. Trying to be anything else would be a lie. Do you think your god made some people that way but then made rules saying they are never allowed to love, to be loved, to be part of a family? And please don't say it's not god's fault but man's, or Adam's, or the devils - stop apologising for your irresponsible divinity. If he made us this way and made rules against our nature, it is /his/ fault. If he didn't do it, and has abdicated any fault and responsibility, then he has also abdicated any claim on our obedience or thanks. He can't have it both ways. > However, this position did not /ORIGINATE/ from me, David. It was > something I first learned from God, thought about, and have received > with gladness and joy because I know God, trust God, and love God. I am sure you learned it from somewhere, yes. I don't think it was god, but I appreciate that you do. It is, nonetheless, your opinion and not an objective fact, and not an opinion shared by all. |
| Ian Collins <ian-news@hotmail.com>: Sep 18 08:36AM +1200 On 18/09/18 02:33, Rick C. Hodgin wrote: > soul in Hellfire forever. It is something God commands us to teach > against because He wants people saved. And I, having come to under- > stand who God is and what that all means ... I also hold that position. Saved from what? The way they were created? Sexuality isn't a choice if you believe it is, you are ignoring the evidence. If you refuse to believe it despite the evidence, you are deluded. > However, this position did not /ORIGINATE/ from me, David. It was > something I first learned from God, thought about, and have received > with gladness and joy because I know God, trust God, and love God. The standard rhetoric of a bigot citing a higher authority. Evil things happen when people do this, learn from history don't repeat it. -- Ian. |
| "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com>: Sep 17 04:43PM -0400 On 9/17/2018 4:36 PM, Ian Collins wrote: > Saved from what? The way they were created? Sexuality isn't a choice if you > believe it is, you are ignoring the evidence. If you refuse to believe it > despite the evidence, you are deluded. This goes back to what I was trying to explain to Öö Tiib and bitrex. You're not born that way. You "feel" like you are born that way because there are evil spirits in this world influencing your flesh. Take them out of the equation (which is what Jesus does) and you no longer "feel" the way they induce you to feel. >> with gladness and joy because I know God, trust God, and love God. > The standard rhetoric of a bigot citing a higher authority. Evil things > happen when people do this, learn from history don't repeat it. You don't understand, Ian, because you're not looking for the truth. You won't even hear the truth because you're already convinced you're right. Breaks my heart. Someday you'll know. -- Rick C. Hodgin |
| "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com>: Sep 17 04:49PM -0400 On 9/17/2018 4:32 PM, David Brown wrote: > In other words, it is your personal opinion. It is formed by your faith, not > independent fact. I used to play guitar at a local gay bar. I learned how to play acoustic guitar because I loved the Indigo Girls' music. My favorite artists in the 1990s were Indigo Girls, Ani DiFranco, Melissa Ethridge, Michelle Malone, and the like. I believed in homosexual relationships. My (then girlfriend, now wife) and I used to support them, go out and hang out with people who were gay, etc. When I became a Christian, my spirit came alive, and I was no longer dealing with only my flesh-based input. I was able to hear and understand the teachings of God through my spirit. As such, I began to realize how the flesh is deceived, and how God's Holy Spirit teaches us truth, and how the enemy spirit deceives us by teaching us falseness. You'll never understand until you seek the truth and God draws you from within, David. I was absolutely convinced I was right before I became a Christian. I knew up and down, right to left, inside and out, top to bottom, that I had it sorted out that it was fully right to support people's beliefs, so long as they were not hurting anyone else. But I was wrong. The spirit nature received the truth from God's Holy Spirit, and now I know the truth and teach the truth. If you ever seek the truth, you'll understand what I'm talking about then too. Until then, you'll conclude I'm a lunatic or worse. ----- You say "homosexuality is normal" because you find it in nature? This world, the whole world, is affected by sin. It is not natural. It is perverse, and everything here will be destroyed by fervent heat, as will the souls of human beings who will not hear the truth. My heart breaks for you as well. -- Rick C. Hodgin |
| "Rick C. Hodgin" <rick.c.hodgin@gmail.com>: Sep 17 05:30PM -0400 On 9/17/2018 4:49 PM, Rick C. Hodgin wrote: > play acoustic guitar because I loved the Indigo Girls' music. > My favorite artists in the 1990s were Indigo Girls, Ani DiFranco, > Melissa Ethridge, Michelle Malone, and the like. My favorite song from that timeframe was Ani DiFranco's Living In Clip live version of "In Or Out." I admired the lyrical composition, her poetry, the musical style. It's an astounding piece of music for that genre in my view. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ofWFwxpf-F8 "Some days the line I walk ... turns out to be straight. Other days the line ... tends to deviate. I got no criteria ... for sex or race. I just want to hear your voice. I just wanna see your face." Another verse: "I guess there's something wrong with me, guess I don't fit in. No one wants to touch it. No one knows where to begin. I just want ... more than one membership, to ... more than one club, 'cause I owe my life ... to the people that I love" Still, I hold that song an absolutely amazing song musically, lyrically, fully encompassing the heart of that very style, and especially so when you consider it was only a three-piece band performing it. But ... it is sin. What she's talking about in that song (bisexuality) is sin. I can no longer support that kind of music, that kind of artist. They have turned their back on God and all of their ways lead unto death of our eternal soul in Hell. Literally. ----- I've spent many years denying myself that style by religious rigor, even though I truly love it as a man, because I can't find any Christian artists who sing as spirit-filled believers, in that same style. I've also learned over time that such a style of music appeals to our flesh, not the spirit, and there are other kinds of music that appeal to the spirit, and not our flesh. And I now pursue those styles, and sing and perform those songs. I don't even listen to a mainstream "Christian radio" here in the U.S. A popular "Christian" station is called K-LOVE. So many people listen to that station and sing the songs, but nearly all of those songs appeal to your flesh, not your spirit. They have flesh-focused music singing about Jesus. There is no power in the flesh. "The flesh profiteth nothing," Jesus said. It is the spirit which gives and has true power. I try and teach the people who listen to that music that fact, and they shun me the same as the people here, because there are evil spirits luring them by their flesh into that music, into that loss of power. They do not want to step up and deny their flesh and pursue the spirit, so they walk around weak, impotent, unable to effect real change in their lives or the people around them. ----- It makes me realize just how patient the Lord is, how forgiving He is, how tolerant of our weaknesses, and also how few people there are from this world who are going to be saved. Those who follow after Jesus Christ and do the will of the Father in Heaven are the /ONLY/ ones who will be saved. The rest only have a form of religion, and they are not saved by Christ's blood. They will be stupefied on that final day when they are not called in to God's Kingdom. They will proclaim and profess their faith, but it will be for nothing. Jesus even warned about us about it, and told us to "work out our salvation in trembling and fear": https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Matthew+7%3A21-23&version=KJV 21 Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven. Note: They called him "Lord, Lord," meaning they truly in their hearts believed they were following Him. They thought they were on the right path, but the work they were doing was not the Father's work, but was the enemy's work dis- guised as the Father's work, and they were deceived because they wouldn't place their faith in God and trust Him for their guidance and cues. 22 Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works? ==> 23 And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity. Jesus never knew them? How could God not "know" something or someone? Of course He knew them as part of His creation, but He never knew them as His redeemed, because they never truly came to Him. They came to the enemy's look-a-like "Jesus," the one who tolerates sin, and follows after the desires of the flesh. ----- I leave you with another teaching, David: "There is a way which seemeth right unto a man, but the end thereof are the ways of death." https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=proverbs+14%3A12%2C+16%3A25&version=KJV It was written twice in two separate chapers. Think about it. -- Rick C. Hodgin |
| Thiago Adams <thiago.adams@gmail.com>: Sep 17 11:53AM -0700 On Friday, September 14, 2018 at 5:33:21 PM UTC-3, Lynn McGuire wrote: > improvements that not only don't lose its "C++-ic" qualities, but make > it a better C++ than ever?" > Lynn I think Herb is being very consistent along the years and I like the subjects he choose. |
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